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TriHealth reveals $140 million revamp for Good Samaritan Hospital, including a new ER

 

 

TriHealth plans to build a new emergency room and remake the Good Samaritan Hospital campus in Cincinnati. President and CEO Mark Clement shared the news of the $140 million five-year plan for Good Samaritan in a Tuesday video update to staff obtained by The Enquirer. The plan appears to reaffirms the future of the hospital roughly two years after some staff questioned what TriHealth was doing with the facility after moving its heart surgery program.

 

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TL; DR: New five-story wing along Dixmont for surgery/mechanical/shell space, and a new parking garage at the former Hebrew College dormitory across the street. I am going to assume that after the main hospital entrance is moved to Dixmont that the original structures facing Clifton will be removed.

4 minutes ago, seicer said:

TL; DR: New five-story wing along Dixmont for surgery/mechanical/shell space, and a new parking garage at the former Hebrew College dormitory across the street. I am going to assume that after the main hospital entrance is moved to Dixmont that the original structures facing Clifton will be removed.

I think you mean Dixmyth St. 

 

I really hope they don't tear down the original hospital building that faces Clifton Ave. The original building is quite beautiful architecturally, but it's marred by the ugly 3-story box that was plopped down in front of it (Google streetview). Since that side of the hospital won't need to serve as a primary/secondary entrance, I would like to see them remove that ugly annex and covert the top level of the three-level parking garage into an outdoor "plaza". With a nice landscape design, this could provide patients and employees with a pleasant place to spend time outside, while also improving the aesthetics of how the hospital faces Clifton Ave (even with the primary entrance moving to Dixmyth).

 

Yes, thank you for the correction.

6 hours ago, jwulsin said:

I really hope they don't tear down the original hospital building

 

That would be sad. I was born in that building.

Wholesale building demolition on these hospital complexes isn't really the modus operandi of large hospitals like this. I don't think I've been to many parts of the oldest building in my ventures into the hospital. If I did, it was more functionally obsolete than the rest of the hospital. I think once a new entry is on Dixmyth, that gives Good Samaritan/Tri-Health the flexibility to build whatever they want directly on Clifton Avenue. A large enough future addition would obscure the existing buildings, likely.

Edited March 12, 20214 yr by Chas Wiederhold

From the planning commission  about final development for A1 section of The District at Clifton Heights. 

Edited March 13, 20214 yr by Ucgrad2015

^ That is a really long building.

 

The schedule in the packet shows a June construction start date.

 

It's good to see huge buildings like this go up right now - rents are rising and housing prices are nuts. If buildings like this one can attract large numbers of students, that may free up some housing in CUF, Corryville, and Clifton for owner-occupants.

 

On 3/13/2021 at 1:06 PM, Ram23 said:

If buildings like this one can attract large numbers of students, that may free up some housing in CUF, Corryville, and Clifton for owner-occupants.

 

Or UC just keeps expanding enrollment...

On 3/12/2021 at 9:11 PM, Ucgrad2015 said:

From the planning commission  about final development for A1 section of The District at Clifton Heights. 

So from the little research I did, it looks like this is going to be about 20-25 feet taller than what the Deaconess Hospital was.

 

The students at the top are going to have an awesome view of the city. At least until the taller tower gets built

Gonna bet the student-athletes will either be getting this one or the deacon when they ultimately build their new facility down the hill.

17 hours ago, zsnyder said:

Or UC just keeps expanding enrollment...

Last I heard the goal is over 60k

9 hours ago, Cincy_Travels said:

So from the little research I did, it looks like this is going to be about 20-25 feet taller than what the Deaconess Hospital was.

 

The students at the top are going to have an awesome view of the city. At least until the taller tower gets built

I hope the hotel gains a couple floors as well. If I remember correctly, renderings show it at 8 or 9 floors. I’d like to see it around the 12-14 floor range. Would make a nice dense little clifton skyline. Also from the Stratford heights side these buildings will look huge due to the drastic change of elevation. 

Do we have their full timeline on the entire scope of the project? Is the plan to build this out first or is other plans coming soon for other parts of this development?

2 hours ago, tonyt3524 said:

Do we have their full timeline on the entire scope of the project? Is the plan to build this out first or is other plans coming soon for other parts of this development?

I was thinking they were starting the portion that housed deaconess this summer, but it could be this 1A portion instead. They already have that ground cleared and funding in place so idk why they would keep the deaconess lot empty and only work on 1A.

Next phase of $500M Uptown project gets green light

 

The next phase of a roughly $500 million mixed-use development in Clifton Heights near the University of Cincinnati is moving forward.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/03/22/hub-at-cincinnati-gets-ok.html

 

 

 

2 hours ago, ColDayMan said:

Next phase of $500M Uptown project gets green light

 

The next phase of a roughly $500 million mixed-use development in Clifton Heights near the University of Cincinnati is moving forward.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/03/22/hub-at-cincinnati-gets-ok.html

 

 

 

So is this supposed to start around the same time as the portion where the old deaconess site was? The article did not mention that portion of the project. 

New video of The District at Clifton Heights. 
 

 

^The new Grand Theft Auto looks kind of boring... But seriously straight street is about to be popping, this project is going to be truly impactful to that corner of campus. 

This is gonna be super impactful IMO.

 

I feel like some college students who aren’t serious about necessarily the best programs are looking for which campuses offer the most night life and entertainment. 
 

If this project lives up to the hype it could some students questioning osu. 

Holy crap. Looks like you'll be able to rent a streetlight @ 1:50.
Also, That guy in the Gray shirt has been hanging out on that corner for far too long.

 

Seriously, though, this is going to be pretty cool. I've already flown down to 75 on google maps to see how visible it will be from there.

10 hours ago, zsnyder said:

Holy crap. Looks like you'll be able to rent a streetlight @ 1:50.
Also, That guy in the Gray shirt has been hanging out on that corner for far too long.

 

Seriously, though, this is going to be pretty cool. I've already flown down to 75 on google maps to see how visible it will be from there.

I know from around the Towne st. exit you can see children’s. I wonder if you’ll be able to see the tower from there? 

I noticed three real brands on signage. Chase, US Bank, and Holy Grail. Wonder if these are all people who have signed LOIs to rent space in the development somewhere.

 

This looks great. Cincinnati needs some more height in its nodes to take advantage of the dramatic views that can be achieved from up on the hills. This will achieve that. Definitely excited to see this all come together.

So is the target demo for the housing exclusively students?

19 hours ago, Miami-Erie said:

So is the target demo for the housing exclusively students?

 

Yes. You'd be crazy to try and cohabitate with a bunch of college kids.  They have similar developments at other large universities and they are basically expensive dorms.  

https://www.jconline.com/story/news/2019/08/29/high-rise-beer-throwing-stunt-near-purdue-puts-rooftop-safety-question/2147981001/

 

I'm optimistic this results in all the run-down rental houses returning to single-family ownership.

51 minutes ago, nicker66 said:

They have similar developments at other large universities and they are basically expensive dorms.  

I can only imagine how much they are going to charge the “poor” parents for those top floor units with the views.

Uptown's apartments are finishing. Feels silly that they don't have anything at street level though. Does anyone know if the new construction on the corner next to Kroger will?

 

Edited June 1, 20214 yr by RealAdamP
Wrong U word (Uptown not usquare.)

25 minutes ago, RealAdamP said:

Usquare's apartments are finishing. Feels silly that they don't have anything at street level though. Does anyone know if the new construction on the corner next to Kroger will?

 

Uptown's*. That switch to vinyl on the left side is really ugly.

 

Anyway, the building next to Kroger will have commercial space, likely for a restaurant. They decided not to do any at this location as they were worried about oversaturation along Short Vine.

8 minutes ago, dnymck said:

Uptown's*. That switch to vinyl on the left side is really ugly.

 

Anyway, the building next to Kroger will have commercial space, likely for a restaurant. They decided not to do any at this location as they were worried about oversaturation along Short Vine.

 

I agree on the vinyl ruining the look. The whole rear of the building is vinyl, and with the vinyl windows that they used throughout, really cheapens the building. I wonder if UC is going to gobble up the units since Calhoun Hall is being renovated.

 

I don't understand a fear of oversaturation on Short Vine, except maybe that there's too many vape/smoke shops. 

19 hours ago, RealAdamP said:

 

I agree on the vinyl ruining the look. The whole rear of the building is vinyl, and with the vinyl windows that they used throughout, really cheapens the building. I wonder if UC is going to gobble up the units since Calhoun Hall is being renovated.

 

I don't understand a fear of oversaturation on Short Vine, except maybe that there's too many vape/smoke shops. 

I wouldn't be surprised if they do take up some of the space, although it seems like they prefer to mass rent floors to make it easier to assign an RA. I've heard they're moving a lot of the athletes to the Deacon so I'd imagine the Calhoun overflow will take up in Usquare/UPA and 101 East Corry.

 

Yea I'm not sure I get it either and I would've preferred to see commercial in this building rather than the corner of Corry and Short Vine as it would've made for a better continuous street wall but oh well.

Maybe they couldn't get it funded if it had "retail".

I don't even see an entrance on vine? Yuck.

Calhoun Hall renovations are underway. They've dug up the area around the stairs net to it and the lower basement levels are now exposed on the west side of the building. Also the facade is getting removed. Photos taken 6/5/21

Edited June 7, 20214 yr by RealAdamP
Added photo date.

1 hour ago, RealAdamP said:

Calhoun Hall renovations are underway.

Here's some background info from when the project was announced last year, including a few renderings of the design... I'm not sure if the design has been updated/refined since it was announced:

https://www.newsrecord.org/news/uc-to-invest-millions-into-calhoun-hall-renovation/article_b9f1a5cc-f62c-11ea-994c-a74109466a43.html

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/09/24/uc-spending-80-million-to-renovate-calhoun-hall.html?ana=twt

Crane going up at Calhoun hall. Going to be a bit wild having all these cranes around campus (Calhoun, The District, and Clifton court building)

I noticed that the old YMCA was fenced off as well but never heard anything. Does anybody know if that's just due to the Calhoun reno or something else?

I didn't realize that there was a plan for new development next to Adriatico's. Saw this coming up in the City's planning calendar. More info here. I think the lack of any storefront on the ground floor here is a complete waste. This is such a busy corridor for foot traffic.

 

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Changes based on Community Input:

1. The Southwest corner of the building has been stepped back from both Lyon and Moerlein to transition to the surrounding neighborhood.
   1. The bottom 1.5 stories will remain adjacent to the R.O.W. & the upper 5 stories have been stepped back approximately 10 feet from the lower portion/R.O.W.
   2. This modification along with the elimination of the townhouses (see below) reduced the total bed count from 469 to 447 (less 22 beds)
2. Maximized Parking by removing townhouse units along Lyon Street (replaced with parking in the basement level and changed first floor back to one‐story flats)
   1. This further increased the parking provided in the garage from 214 to 235 (21 spaces)
   2. This additional parking (235) and reduced beds (447) increased the ratio from 0.46 spaces/bed to 0.53 spaces per bed.

As always, less housing, more parking

Normally, I'd be concerned about losing the historic character of the neighborhood, but these buildings don't have much character: https://goo.gl/maps/zSKF675XkvKSrkpa6

1 minute ago, Dev said:

As always, less housing, more parking

 

The Deacon ended up not having enough parking for all its residents. Could they have been worried about that?

 

Just now, seicer said:

Normally, I'd be concerned about losing the historic character of the neighborhood, but these buildings don't have much character: https://goo.gl/maps/zSKF675XkvKSrkpa6

 

The fifty shades of gray that replaces it is somewhat worse in my mind. At least those had some color. 

 

Is it too late in development to voice concerns about these and the lack of any commercial storefront at their meeting on the fourth?

That's an interesting floor plan with a bunch of four bedroom apartments that all have their own restroom but share one kitchen/living area. It looks like the typical "broken up facade" bullsh*t that most apartments around here look like, but with no color either. Why can't people just use one nice material on the whole facade and make one building look like one building and not a collage of many sh*tty buildings stuck on top of each other? 

 

The density is really good however, 1.3 acreas with 447 beds is nothing to sneeze at. 

13 minutes ago, ucgrady said:

Why can't people just use one nice material on the whole facade and make one building look like one building and not a collage of many sh*tty buildings stuck on top of each other?

 

I agree. This is by far the worse five on one collage style in CUF I've seen.

 

I thought of an (horrible) idea, though. What if they made a facade based entirely off McMansion styling?

17 minutes ago, ucgrady said:

That's an interesting floor plan with a bunch of four bedroom apartments that all have their own restroom but share one kitchen/living area. It looks like the typical "broken up facade" bullsh*t that most apartments around here look like, but with no color either. Why can't people just use one nice material on the whole facade and make one building look like one building and not a collage of many sh*tty buildings stuck on top of each other? 

 

The density is really good however, 1.3 acreas with 447 beds is nothing to sneeze at. 

Yes I want to see OSU density (one tract around had a density of 35000ppsm) none of the CUF tracks comes close to that 

I think I'm weird in that I really like the design. I wish there was retail along McMillan though. And less parking. 

20 minutes ago, DEPACincy said:

I think I'm weird in that I really like the design. I wish there was retail along McMillan though. And less parking. 

No to be fair, we are the weird ones. There's a reason developers keep doing this style; people keeping leasing them.

Edited August 30, 20213 yr by ucgrady

1 hour ago, RealAdamP said:

The Deacon ended up not having enough parking for all its residents. Could they have been worried about that?

Everyone frets about parking regardless of actual realities. In this case, CUF pressured the city to do a thorough traffic study but it doesn't seem that any of the recommendations have been implemented.

What eats at me even more than the collage trope is that particular use of cornices.

Every time I look at the renders, I find something else I don't really like. I now noticed they're planning to put a streetlight right in the middle of the entrance. 

When is that giant grassy lot that has been vacant for over 20 years plus going to be developed? (The grass lot that’s across the cross roads church).

 

I swear development has been promised there time and time again but always falls apart. Is the land just impossible to build on? It seems the land around UC is becoming quite in demand lately so I simply don’t get why such a large plot of land can sit with weeds for this long. 

5 minutes ago, Troeros2 said:

When is that giant grassy lot that has been vacant for over 20 years plus going to be developed? (The grass lot that’s across the cross roads church).

 

I swear development has been promised there time and time again but always falls apart. Is the land just impossible to build on? It seems the land around UC is becoming quite in demand lately so I simply don’t get why such a large plot of land can sit with weeds for this long. 

It's a more challenging site for sure. You have dramatic elevation changes which can be hard to plan around. From a profitability standpoint, might as well just use the flat sites nearby that are easier. It'll likely be one of the last sites to really be developed honestly.