A couple of new PDFs were posted related to "The District" development. Streetscaping, floor plans, and new concept art:

 

https://res.cloudinary.com/courbanize-production/image/upload/v1/information_plans/sjkyk07u9hiqqqi9sj3g

https://res.cloudinary.com/courbanize-production/image/upload/v1/information_plans/kegxz4swo9jtuuc1mfhr

 

 

^thanks for sharing!

So they still have to be approved for all of this correct? The demolition is almost complete, but now they need city approval to move forward?

38 minutes ago, oudd said:

A couple of new PDFs were posted related to "The District" development. Streetscaping, floor plans, and new concept art:

 

https://res.cloudinary.com/courbanize-production/image/upload/v1/information_plans/sjkyk07u9hiqqqi9sj3g

https://res.cloudinary.com/courbanize-production/image/upload/v1/information_plans/kegxz4swo9jtuuc1mfhr

 

 

The master plan shows a pretty big overhaul of UC's entrance, including removal the guard house. Which is an ... interesting proposal.

 

Also in the second link, they propose a good chunk of public spaces with art and all the "insta" looks. I'm torn on this since every place that people are allowed to gather in this area tend to bring out the worst in the community. This development being next to the high school also would not help in any way. Hopefully they'll have more security or police patrols in the area to keep it calm. 

 

14 minutes ago, tonyt3524 said:

So they still have to be approved for all of this correct? The demolition is almost complete, but now they need city approval to move forward?

 

From what I remember, they have the approval for building the buildings, but have not gotten specific permits or submitted plans yet. These proposals have the "Document Design" vibe to them, so it's a ways out.

 

Edit: It'll be interesting to see if the 25 story tower gets reduced or spread out over time.

Edited November 26, 20195 yr by RealAdamP

1 hour ago, RealAdamP said:

 

The master plan shows a pretty big overhaul of UC's entrance, including removal the guard house. Which is an ... interesting proposal.

 

Also in the second link, they propose a good chunk of public spaces with art and all the "insta" looks. I'm torn on this since every place that people are allowed to gather in this area tend to bring out the worst in the community. This development being next to the high school also would not help in any way. Hopefully they'll have more security or police patrols in the area to keep it calm. 

 

 

From what I remember, they have the approval for building the buildings, but have not gotten specific permits or submitted plans yet. These proposals have the "Document Design" vibe to them, so it's a ways out.

 

Edit: It'll be interesting to see if the 25 story tower gets reduced or spread out over time.

If the tower does get reduced hopefully not by much. I think they are banging on those views to be a selling point so I wouldn’t see them reducing it by a lot. 

This is what an America without rock & roll looks like:

Architecturally there's obviously not a ton to write about here. It all falls into the "good enough" category.

 

What's more important is that it seems like they're achieving and understanding the mixes of activities, uses, etc. to achieve street activity. The ground floor is pretty well activated in every building, the access to parking is fairly well minimized, the parking is pretty much entirely shielded by other programs, the streetscapes have a nice mix of seating, plantings, etc., along with moments to create interest and anchor each intersection or major node. The streets have curb bumpouts at crosswalks, cars are deprioritized enough to make a comfortable space for pedestrians, etc.

 

Overall, I'm pleasantly surprised with how much care they're taking to create an important district (no pun intended) around UC. They could have just done the typical and threw up a 1+5 box with no street interaction, did a typical concrete sidewalk, and called it a day. This goes a few steps past that which I appreciate.

 

Here's to hoping they achieve what they're setting out to do and even get that tower in there. Those views would be incredible and it would help with the placemaking of the development.

2 minutes ago, jmicha said:

Overall, I'm pleasantly surprised with how much care they're taking to create an important district (no pun intended) around UC. They could have just done the typical and threw up a 1+5 box with no street interaction, did a typical concrete sidewalk, and called it a day. This goes a few steps past that which I appreciate.

 

Here's to hoping they achieve what they're setting out to do and even get that tower in there. Those views would be incredible and it would help with the placemaking of the development.

Agree, it’s impressive especially with how much this project is flying under the radar (compared to development the Banks for example.) They’re quietly (so far) adding a ton of units and accomplishing a lot. Almost setting an example for the Banks in some respects 

It's actually really impressive how much they have planned and so far it doesn't seem like they're running into any roadblocks. I will admit I'm a bit cautious/hesitant about the amount of ground floor retail here, but maybe it'll be fine. I walked around Clifton Heights a bit when I was in town for Blink and it looked a little healthier from a retail standpoint than I remembered when I left in 2016, so maybe it'll be all good.

Plus it's looking like in the end they're planning for, what, over 1,000 units between all the various phases plus what appears to be a large hotel? That should be enough to activate quite a bit of retail space in and of itself.

I agree the signs at this point are promising. If done correctly it will almost create a new mini-NBD for the area. Now let's just hope it doesn't get chopped up and cheapened over the next few years.

 

Hopefully if the tower ends up getting built, there will be some sort of public space (bar/restaurant?) at the top. That will seemingly be one of the highest vantage points in the entire region, with commanding views of downtown, uptown, and the western hills and valley.

The Deacon is hideous.  At least it has a "main entrance" and pseudo-lobby (unlike, say, The Gantry or U Square and their nondescript hallway entrances), but the thing looks like it was designed by a high schooler.  Inside, the lobby is a who's-who of Ikea knock-off themes.  Exposed conduit here.  Polished concrete there.  Ooh, there's the obligatory hanging plant wall.  

Is there anything you don't hate? What does your constant, "I'm better than anything geared towards people younger than me" attitude add to the discussion? Don't like The Deacon? Perfectly fine, don't live there. But honestly, for an affordably designed and built student housing building that is being used as a proof of concept and an asset to put up against future development, it has done its job well and provides a ton of amenity spaces to residents. Yeah, sure, they're not necessarily my personal taste or what I'd design in buildings I work on, but style isn't worth discussing since it's subjective. As a building, it provides pretty much anything someone could ask for and is hopefully going to be the catalyst necessary to create the rest of the area.

I think it's the whole notion of landlords being able to get away with a lot now that there's only about 6-7 schools in Ohio that most students can go to and be able to find work afterward. Whereas it used to be all 75 or whatever. 

Edited November 29, 20195 yr by GCrites80s

On 11/29/2019 at 1:10 PM, jmicha said:

But honestly, for an affordably designed and built student housing building

I wouldn't say that $1,000 a month is affordable. In fact I think it's disgusting to be charging that much for a building that has j-box holes left in the drywall, flooding stairwells, paper exit signs, the "exposed" look with 7ft ceilings so hallways feel like a maintenance tunnel.. I know several people that didn't have their hot water turned on in their apartments.

You are right that the building as a whole ticks a lot of boxes for amenities, but it ends up spreading it thin trying to do all of them. The whole site does not feel ready yet. There's no bike racks. It took them months to get the signage for the street fixed so that there was a drop off area so that people didn't park in the middle of the road anymore. The small grass area on stratford and straight has turned into the only place where people can walk their dogs.. I agree that as a proof of concept it works, but it should've been refined more. I'd much rather have adequate lighting for the sidewalks around the building rather than having an ikea showroom of a lobby. 

 

On 11/29/2019 at 1:56 PM, GCrites80s said:

I think it's the whole notion of landlords being able to get away with a lot now that there's only about 6-7 schools in Ohio that most students can go to and be able to find work afterward. Whereas it used to be all 75 or whatever. 

This is how I feel about it. Since UC leases a large majority of these places as well to offload students while they get the on campus housing figured out, it makes it feel like students are getting tricked when it comes to these developments. I can't imagine moving into an apartment with no hot water going too well in OTR or somewhere similar.

I think jmicha meant the design/construction of the building was affordable, not that the rent was affordable. 

2 hours ago, BigDipper 80 said:

I think jmicha meant the design/construction of the building was affordable, not that the rent was affordable. 

Yep. Construction is extremely expensive right now. The fact that they went with steel and concrete framing instead of the typical 1 over 5 wood framed building alone is a huge step up from typical student housing.

Everything mentioned above  sounds like things that haven't been picked up since the punch-list. Which happens. Sometimes you leave many little items until after opening because you have no choice on timing of opening.

 

My statements above shouldn't be used to make it out as me thinking this is a great building. It's an average "good enough" building with a nice amenities package. Which is the reality of the market right now. My statement was about being annoyed by Jake's constant need to berate anything designed, styled, whatever, etc. for younger people. It's exhausting. It's not 1996 anymore, get over it.

Two hotel projects move forward

 

 

...Council also is expected to approve an 11-year tax abatement to a hotel project that will be wedged between the Corryville Kroger store and the street at 60 William Howard Taft Road. The hotel’s flag is expected to be a Tru Hotel by Hilton.

 

The $12 million, 117-room hotel and parking garage adds to the hotel mix in growing Uptown, which already has a Hampton Inn, a Fairfield Inn and the University of Cincinnati’s Kingsgate Conference Center hotel. Keystone Hotle Group and Luminaut are the developers on the project.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/12/03/two-hotel-projects-move-forward.html

Re: the large undeveloped parcel on Calhoun:

 

“The development team of Milhaus Development, LLC (Master Developer) and Rolling Hills Hospitality, LLC (Hotel Developer) is proposing a mixed-use development including an approximately 230-unit residential apartment building, a 150-key hotel, and 380-space parking structure within the TIF Exemption Area, as shown in Attachment A.”
 

https://city-egov2.cincinnati-oh.gov/Webtop/ws/council/public/child/Blob/55139.pdf?rpp=-10&w=doc_no%3D'201901821'&m=1

^ This appears to be one of many TIF districts that the city is rushing to establish before the end of the year, when the tax abatement agreement between the City of Cincinnati and Cincinnati Public Schools expires. I wouldn't necessarily assume that this development is going to break ground in the very near future, although it's great that we now have more information about the developers that want to develop that lot and what they want to build on it.

Remember when COAST went crazy over the EMERGENCY ordinance for the streetcar?  

Gut rehab on 300 block of Klotter:

 

Gut rehab on 200 block of Warner:

The Deaconess is completely gone now, the office building has been completely demolished. This was taken 12/3:

 

The DAAP sculpture building is coming along nicely. Taken 12/2:

Despite the construction of many new apartments in the CUF and Corryville since 2010, rents continue to accelerate.  Prevailing rents for 2-bedroom apartments and bedrooms in single-family homes (or small multifamilies) recently raced past $500/bedroom to $600/bedroom:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/apartments-for-rent-in-cincinnati-what-will-dollar1200-get-you/ar-BBY2or2?ocid=spartandhp

 

This is way up from $400~ back in 2015~.  There will still vacant homes and a lot of Section 8 rentals in CUF and Corryville in the early 2010s.  That's over as UC students/professionals have pushed solidly eastward from Short Vine to Highland.  Formerly sketch streets like Fosdick and Donahue are now pretty chill and I've seen UC students living as far east as the 500 block of Oak.  There is only one vacant building left in Corryville near Mecklenburg Gardens and zero in CUF.  

 

It feels crazy to say out loud but current trends mean $700 per bedroom might be coming soon, which is a ton of money.  I was paying $300 in 2012 and $250 in 2007.  I paid $200/mo in the early 2000s when I lived over by the VA.  

17 hours ago, jmecklenborg said:

Despite the construction of many new apartments in the CUF and Corryville since 2010, rents continue to accelerate.  Prevailing rents for 2-bedroom apartments and bedrooms in single-family homes (or small multifamilies) recently raced past $500/bedroom to $600/bedroom:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/apartments-for-rent-in-cincinnati-what-will-dollar1200-get-you/ar-BBY2or2?ocid=spartandhp

 

This is way up from $400~ back in 2015~.  There will still vacant homes and a lot of Section 8 rentals in CUF and Corryville in the early 2010s.  That's over as UC students/professionals have pushed solidly eastward from Short Vine to Highland.  Formerly sketch streets like Fosdick and Donahue are now pretty chill and I've seen UC students living as far east as the 500 block of Oak.  There is only one vacant building left in Corryville near Mecklenburg Gardens and zero in CUF.  

 

It feels crazy to say out loud but current trends mean $700 per bedroom might be coming soon, which is a ton of money.  I was paying $300 in 2012 and $250 in 2007.  I paid $200/mo in the early 2000s when I lived over by the VA.  

 

The properties around UC really need renovation or rehabs. So many of the rentals students end up with are full of life safety and building code violations. It's rough finding somewhere to live near campus. Landlords deem something such as more than one receptacle per room, kitchen vent hoods, or even a fire extinguisher as a frivolous luxury unless you're paying over $1,000 a month per person. I've been planning to move out towards clifton or northside and commuting instead of spending forever finding somewhere near campus.

^There are a lot of people now living in the front living rooms and in closets. There are also people living illegally in basements and on enclosed porches.  

Nobody cares. You literally cannot go to Bucyrus College, Xenia U., Stryker A&M, Ironton Polytech or Stuebnville State anymore. You have to go to UC or no job.

44 minutes ago, RealAdamP said:

The properties around UC really need renovation or rehabs. So many of the rentals students end up with are full of life safety and building code violations. It's rough finding somewhere to live near campus. Landlords deem something such as more than one receptacle per room, kitchen vent hoods, or even a fire extinguisher as a frivolous luxury unless you're paying over $1,000 a month per person. I've been planning to move out towards clifton or northside and commuting instead of spending forever finding somewhere near campus.

 

Ideally, as more student apartments are built around campus, young professionals would start to buy and fix up the historic homes on the residential streets south of campus (Flora/Victor/Stratford/etc.). Plenty of other cities have campus-adjacent neighborhood that are not just for students, so I don't see why the same concept wouldn't work in Cincinnati. That area is still extremely close to downtown and OTR in addition to all of the restaurants and entertainment options surrounding campus.

 

23 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

^There are a lot of people now living in the front living rooms and in closets. There are also people living illegally in basements and on enclosed porches.  

 

During the time that I lived on Flora Street, with a total of 4 people living in an officially 3 bedroom house, we tried two different configurations. At first we had one person living in the dining room, which had been "converted" into a bedroom by the landlord by adding doors on both sides. After that roommate moved out, we decided we wanted to actually use the dining room so our new roommate agreed to live in the attic, but unfortunately the only way to access his "bedroom" was via my bedroom.

^Also I don't think people fully recognize the impact of the MLK widening demolitions and the replacement of Whitfield Gardens with The Whitfield.  Combined, well over 500 cheap apartments were taken off the Clifton market.  

 

On the surface it's a good thing that McMicken at the bottom of Straight, Tafel, Devotie, and the Marshall hill are finally not dangerous, but it's apparent that the threshold between "not dangerous" and "too expensive" is very narrow and we're quickly flipping to a new era in which many people who attend UC and work near UC can't afford to work within walking distance and are decamping for the west side or even Kentucky.  

19 minutes ago, GCrites80s said:

Nobody cares. You literally cannot go to Bucyrus College, Xenia U., Stryker A&M, Ironton Polytech or Stuebnville State anymore. You have to go to UC or no job.

Every student I've met describes the same conditions @jmecklenborg states and they do care. No one wants to live in a house where every possible room besides the kitchen and bathroom have been converted into some janky bedroom. I'm very sure that the city and UC care. The only people that don't care are slumlords exploiting students.

 

6 minutes ago, taestell said:

Ideally, as more student apartments are built around campus, young professionals would start to buy and fix up the historic homes on the residential streets south of campus (Flora/Victor/Stratford/etc.). Plenty of other cities have campus-adjacent neighborhood that are not just for students, so I don't see why the same concept wouldn't work in Cincinnati. That area is still extremely close to downtown and OTR in addition to all of the restaurants and entertainment options surrounding campus.

 

The current landlords gained a majority of the properties during the recession and they were falling apart then. They're still falling part now, but now worth double the amount. Unless there becomes a financial incentive to start rehabing properties, I don't see it happening since they're in such poor condition. I think you'll see the more of the renovations you describe closer to the `Uptown Innovation Corridor` near I75.

2 minutes ago, RealAdamP said:

Every student I've met describes the same conditions @jmecklenborg states and they do care. No one wants to live in a house where every possible room besides the kitchen and bathroom have been converted into some janky bedroom. I'm very sure that the city and UC care. The only people that don't care are slumlords exploiting students.

 

Also, it should be noted that the VA and Zoo and Children's hospital have demolished a ton of houses on the east side of Vine, along Louis, along Shields, and along Erkenbrecker.  There were also homes lining Vine near the nursing school until about 1999 and homes facing MLK between Bishop and the EPA.  

 

At the same time that a few big new complexes have gone up, hundreds of cheap units have physically disappeared around UC's periphery.  The old homes owned by small-time landlords are critical to cheap housing still existing.  Places like Uptown and Gaslight obviously own hundreds of units in single-family homes and small multi-families.  I would not count either as "cheap", since they aren't.  

There are still a few parcels around that someone could theoretically build a decently high-density housing (student or otherwise). I'm thinking of McMillan/Auburn, Vine/Calhoun, the mini strip mall of CVS and banks between McMillan and Calhoun, this huge lot that used to be a dentist but is now for sale, and of course the upcoming "District" development. I seriously doubt any of those potential developments would be low-income though.

 

But maybe with a few of those taking students off the single-family housing rental market, we might see more renovations/restorations. I know when we were looking for something in CUF a few years ago the rehabs needed for some of the Italianate buildings on Flora/Victor etc seemed daunting. They've been so chopped up and abused by landlords, it's almost easier to start with an abandoned shell like you can get in OTR (though now in much more limited supply). 

 

13 minutes ago, RealAdamP said:

Every student I've met describes the same conditions @jmecklenborg states and they do care. No one wants to live in a house where every possible room besides the kitchen and bathroom have been converted into some janky bedroom. I'm very sure that the city and UC care. The only people that don't care are slumlords exploiting students.

 

 

I shouldn't have put it that way, but they aren't letting it get in the way of attending UC. UC, the city and ODOT made all that effort and spent $100 million wiping out residences to improve freeway access and it didn't matter nearly as much as the fact that UC has co-op and is in a city with proper networking and jobs.

1 hour ago, oudd said:

 this huge lot that used to be a dentist but is now for sale, 

 

 

Yeah that is obviously a prime parcel and a developer would really, really want to tear down the old mansion on the corner.  

 

The Mad Frog corner is for sale and unfortunately the loss of that strip of buildings would be a big aesthetic setback.  There does not seem to be any historic protection in place for anything up there, if the recent demo of the church at McMillan & Auburn is any indication.  

2 hours ago, GCrites80s said:

Nobody cares. You literally cannot go to Bucyrus College, Xenia U., Stryker A&M, Ironton Polytech or Stuebnville State anymore. You have to go to UC or no job.

 

You've made this point/criticism before in this thread and I honestly don't understand it. What are you criticizing? And why do you think other schools in Ohio can't prepare you to get a job? 

 

 

People who study fields that don't require a lot of networking aren't having issues or go to a school that is very well known for certain majors also don't have problems, but graduates (especially in the past 5 years) from rural schools are having a lot more issues finding work straight out of school in the past. Many people who fall into the former categories or went to big city schools are unaware. That's why the rural schools have seen declines in enrollment and applications. Many in Ohio (and across the country) have dropped ACT/SAT requirements completely in order to increase applications while the major city Ohio schools (OSU, UC, Case, CSU) continue to see little difference in apps. It's not the curriculum or the staff -- it's the fact that students are located too far from employment centers.

Edited December 11, 20195 yr by GCrites80s

7 minutes ago, GCrites80s said:

People who study fields that don't require a lot of networking aren't having issues or go to a school that is very well known for certain majors also don't have problems, but graduates (especially in the past 5 years) from rural schools are having a lot more issues finding work straight out of school in the past. Many people who fall into the former categories or went to big city schools are unaware. That's why the rural schools have seen declines in enrollment and applications. Many in Ohio (and across the country) have dropped ACT/SAT requirements completely in order to increase applications while the major city Ohio schools (OSU, UC, Case, CSU) continue to see little difference in apps. It's not the curriculum or the staff -- it's the fact that students are located too far from employment centers.

 

Ahh, I see. That is for sure a complicated dynamic, tied up in why many rural areas throughout the country (world?) are struggling to retain population and jobs, and isn't specific to UC or Ohio. It's a combination of technology (nature of jobs changing), migration/immigration (people moving), and globalization (manufacturing moving out of the US). I was confused because your comment seemed somehow "Ohio-specific". 

5 minutes ago, jwulsin said:

 

Ahh, I see. That is for sure a complicated dynamic, tied up in why many rural areas throughout the country (world?) are struggling to retain population and jobs, and isn't specific to UC or Ohio. It's a combination of technology (nature of jobs changing), migration/immigration (people moving), and globalization (manufacturing moving out of the US). I was confused because your comment seemed somehow "Ohio-specific". 

 

I saw this for myself back in 2010 when I graduated from Northern Iowa. It seemed like business people got jobs at John Deere, Caterpillar or Rockwell, and the finance people got jobs working insurance, and nothing else in between. It was tough finding a job out of there, even though I had really good credentials. All the big companies needed specific skills (logistics degree, accounting degree, finance degree), so I ended up selling nuts and bolts and wire harnesses with a degree in mathematical economics when everyone else at the company didn't have any type of degree really except for the corporate accounting people.  I worked my way up from there but I hear of people now having the same degree and getting boatload straight out because of the connections/networking. I was first generation college which I am sure a lot of the rural college grads are, and didn't get the chance to have "internships" which were free or low paying, I poured concrete. I thought it would all help me but it ended up being doing construction for a year until I could even find a sales job.

 

Of course, this was shortly after the recession so everything sucked then but, I can see how this can be a big problem.

44 minutes ago, GCrites80s said:

People who study fields that don't require a lot of networking aren't having issues or go to a school that is very well known for certain majors also don't have problems, but graduates (especially in the past 5 years) from rural schools are having a lot more issues finding work straight out of school in the past. Many people who fall into the former categories or went to big city schools are unaware. That's why the rural schools have seen declines in enrollment and applications. Many in Ohio (and across the country) have dropped ACT/SAT requirements completely in order to increase applications while the major city Ohio schools (OSU, UC, Case, CSU) continue to see little difference in apps. It's not the curriculum or the staff -- it's the fact that students are located too far from employment centers.

 

How does this explain why Miami and OU are doing just fine but Akron and Toledo are struggling? OU, for one, has large alumni clusters in Columbus, Cleveland, DC, NYC, and Chicago. Miami obviously has a lot in Cincy and Chicago. So I don't think being rural hurt you if you have clusters of alumni in urban areas. But if most of your alumni are sticking close to home (Toledo, Akron) then you might be hurting to find employment if you try to leave those metro areas.

23 minutes ago, IAGuy39 said:

 which were free or low paying, I poured concrete. I thought it would all help me but it ended up being doing construction for a year until I could even find a sales job.

 

I think from a hiring manager's perspective for better jobs you look unreliable and disorganized if your resume isn't perfect.  Except you need parents who pay for everything to have a perfect resume.  

2 minutes ago, DEPACincy said:

 

How does this explain why Miami and OU are doing just fine but Akron and Toledo are struggling? 

 

Because Miami students are from rich families and can take unpaid internships in big cities.  I was surprised by the number of OU students who enjoyed a similar status.  I know people who got jobs through family connections with the New York Times, NBC News, etc.  I was friends with a guy who had an unpaid internship with MTV.  His parents paid for him to live in New York City for the summer.  Such an arrangement was inconceivable to me.  

2 minutes ago, DEPACincy said:

 

How does this explain why Miami and OU are doing just fine but Akron and Toledo are struggling? OU, for one, has large alumni clusters in Columbus, Cleveland, DC, NYC, and Chicago. Miami obviously has a lot in Cincy and Chicago. So I don't think being rural hurt you if you have clusters of alumni in urban areas. But if most of your alumni are sticking close to home (Toledo, Akron) then you might be hurting to find employment if you try to leave those metro areas.

 

Miami isn't really that far from Cincinnati and Dayton. You can still network in both cities properly. Everyone who went to OU likes swapping OU stories. Somehow my OU-Lancaster stories don't have the same appeal though ?

6 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

I think from a hiring manager's perspective for better jobs you look unreliable and disorganized if your resume isn't perfect.  Except you need parents who pay for everything to have a perfect resume.  

 

You know how an prospective employee actually scored major points with me once? A plain text resume. As in Notepad. I've gotten tons of resumes that assumed that we had some random program on our computers -- files we couldn't even open or if we could it was a total mess formatting-wise.

16 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

I think from a hiring manager's perspective for better jobs you look unreliable and disorganized if your resume isn't perfect.  Except you need parents who pay for everything to have a perfect resume.  

 

Yeah it was super frustrating. People had great internships at those John Deere's and Rockwell, etc., I applied toe very one and never got any. Then I learned how everyone's mom or dad worked there or some thing or the other. THey then got hired on for what was then a whopping amount of money, meanwhile I was paying interest on my student loans living with mom working concrete and digging ditches. Oh well, all working out now but it can be really tough unless someone sees something in you, the problem is getting the foot in the door.

23 minutes ago, IAGuy39 said:

 

Yeah it was super frustrating. People had great internships at those John Deere's and Rockwell, etc., I applied toe very one and never got any. Then I learned how everyone's mom or dad worked there or some thing or the other. THey then got hired on for what was then a whopping amount of money, meanwhile I was paying interest on my student loans living with mom working concrete and digging ditches. Oh well, all working out now but it can be really tough unless someone sees something in you, the problem is getting the foot in the door.

 

I never heard of an "internship" until Monica Lewinsky.  I remember Seinfeld did an episode around that time where Kramer got an intern.  They were jokes back then.  I still think they're a joke.  I told my cousin's boyfriend - who was telling me about his internship - that nobody at the company plays games with the interns because they're not perceived as threats.  As soon as you sign on for real, the backstabbing begins.  He didn't know what I was talking about, but he will soon.  

 

 

 

Not to derail the current conversation, but I heard from a reliable person that the developers of the new building at Eden/Donahue/University have another big project in the works.

4 hours ago, GCrites80s said:

You know how an prospective employee actually scored major points with me once? A plain text resume. As in Notepad.

 

Bonus points for ASCII art.

Yes, like an FAQ.

From last Sunday, 12/7/19...this thing was vacant for 20+ years until 2019:

 

 

 

Neighborhood landmark:

 

 

This one was vacant for about 10 years until its 2018 rehab:

 

Probably the only vacant building left in Corryville, unless the vacant apartments in the 2900 block of Burnet are considered Corryville:

 

Similar to the buildings that were torn down in 2012 or so on Euclid:

 

Please ignore the hair in the sky, I'm too lazy to clone it out:

 

A giant floating hair:

 

I see you, hair:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I noticed the hair while viewing the shots on the camera's screen and amazingly a few cycles of the "sensor cleaner" function with the camera pointed downward dislodged it. 

 

 

 

I've walked by these signs 1000 times and never understood why the "Begin" signs are there:

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1204369,-84.5199931,3a,48.9y,299.07h,92.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVM2AQVn9oNdCYRojaYYa5w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

 

My best guess was that they denoted the address block jump from the 100 block to the 2000 block at that point. But I'm not sure that's right - it's little confusing because one of the signs just says "Clifton Av" and the other says "W Clifton Av," implying "W Clifton" ends and "Clifton" begins.  This is further confounded as you move up the hill from this point - at various intersections, the street is signed as "Clifton Av," without the directional designation, until it reaches McMicken at the top of the hill, where it is signed as "Clifton Av W," and "W Clifton Av." The auditor has some addresses on this stretch listed as "W Clifton" and some as just "Clifton," to add to the confusion (for example, 2103 and 2109 are officially described as "Clifton" but 2105 and 2107, right next door, are "W Clifton." I imagine this all works itself out because E Clifton doesn't have addresses in the 2000s.

 

 

At the corner of Vine and Calhoun*/Taft, today there is a big pile-driver / drill ... presumably doing geotechnical analysis for a foundation/structure.  

 

 

Hopefully this is more positive indication that the proposed Millhaus project (230-unit apartment building, 150-key hotel, 380-space parking garage) is moving forward: https://city-egov2.cincinnati-oh.gov/Webtop/ws/council/public/child/Blob/55139.pdf?rpp=-10&w=doc_no%3D'201901821'&m=1

 

*While UC is looking at changing some names, I'd love to see Calhoun renamed to just Taft. I don't have any particular political motivation (apparently the Calhoun name pre-dates the pro-slavery senator John Calhoun from South Carolina), but I hate when streets change names for only a few blocks (don't even get me started on the Jefferson-Nixon-Goodman quagmire). Calhoun is only 5-blocks long. Why not just continue the Taft name for those 5 blocks?