December 26, 20195 yr 3 hours ago, jwulsin said: At the corner of Vine and Calhoun*/Taft, today there is a big pile-driver / drill ... presumably doing geotechnical analysis for a foundation/structure. Hopefully this is more positive indication that the proposed Millhaus project (230-unit apartment building, 150-key hotel, 380-space parking garage) is moving forward: https://city-egov2.cincinnati-oh.gov/Webtop/ws/council/public/child/Blob/55139.pdf?rpp=-10&w=doc_no%3D'201901821'&m=1 *While UC is looking at changing some names, I'd love to see Calhoun renamed to just Taft. I don't have any particular political motivation (apparently the Calhoun name pre-dates the pro-slavery senator John Calhoun from South Carolina), but I hate when streets change names for only a few blocks (don't even get me started on the Jefferson-Nixon-Goodman quagmire). Calhoun is only 5-blocks long. Why not just continue the Taft name for those 5 blocks? I know I’ve seen some old renderings for this site but is their a current one?
December 27, 20195 yr 16 hours ago, Ucgrad2015 said: I know I’ve seen some old renderings for this site but is their a current one? Not that I'm aware of.
January 12, 20205 yr 6 hours ago, jmecklenborg said: Jan 11, 2020: I see a farmers insurance commercial in the future for that college kid.
January 12, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, savadams13 said: I see a farmers insurance commercial in the future for that college kid. probably a good thing that car was there to stop it. Could have been pretty bad if it plowed into that apartment complex.
January 12, 20205 yr The guy obviously didn't chock his wheels but we'll probably see the apartment complex install some concrete posts to slow trucks down in the event this happens again.
March 30, 20205 yr On Sunday night I saw a prostitute working the corner of Warner & W. Clifton, right in front of a shuttered Murphy's Pub. It takes a lot to shock me, but I have to admit that I was shocked.
May 20, 20205 yr The building at the southwest corner of University/Burnet was just torn down: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.132413,-84.5014872,3a,75y,215h,88.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRxYSgXL1xCglPUD0jZFnjw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 The property is owned by Central Clinic, which has its main building directly to the south. Their demo permit doesn't seem to indicate any plans for new construction. My guess is that they'll use it for surface parking. https://cagis.hamilton-co.org/opal/apd.aspx?entcode=cinc&ezstdadrtag=2837||BURNET|AV|GJ1595134425|||CINC|CINC|00920004004602837B|009200040046|009200040046|CINCINNATI&APD=2020P02671 Related, I'd love to see that slip lane from EB University to SB Burnet removed.
June 2, 20205 yr Tonight I saw something I thought I'd never see - police bringing arrested protestors up the staircase that connects City View and Emming. i guess that the protesters were trying to march up the Ravine St. hill and the CPD dispatched a few cruisers to the top of this staircase in case they tried to flee up into Clifton Heights.
June 2, 20205 yr 10 hours ago, jmecklenborg said: Tonight I saw something I thought I'd never see - police bringing arrested protestors up the staircase that connects City View and Emming. i guess that the protesters were trying to march up the Ravine St. hill and the CPD dispatched a few cruisers to the top of this staircase in case they tried to flee up into Clifton Heights. A few folks seemed to have successfully navigated the hillsides between Mohawk and Klotter while fleeing, only to get caught by waiting cops on Klotter. The hillside back there is tough terrain. I go back in there once in awhile during the warmer months to do a general look-around to make sure no one is stashing dead bodies or setting up a bum camp. Between the loose colluvial soils, thick underbrush, old foundations, and 150 years worth of garbage and construction debris it's pretty hazardous. One guy limped out through a vacant yard with looked like a rolled ankle and I imagine some people gave up and tried to stick to the small path that follows the old Renner Street around to the staircase you mentioned. All the while, the Sheriff's helicopter circled overhead. I assume whoever was operating the thermal imaging camera got a good chuckle out of all this.
June 2, 20205 yr I doubt that many or any of those people were familiar with how gnarly that patch of woods is, but maybe someone found a hollow tree to hide in and evaded capture.
June 15, 20204 yr 232 Oak St is for sale. I've always been charmed by this oddity. It sits on a fairly large (50x100) corner parcel. https://www.coldwellbankerhomes.com/oh/cincinnati/232-oak-st/pid_36486908/
June 15, 20204 yr ^ That is just primed for a contemporary addition in front to create an L-shaped plan and shielded yard.
June 25, 20204 yr Council passes plan to address big concern for Uptown neighborhoods Parking relief for people living and working in parts of Uptown could be coming soon. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/06/25/council-passes-parking-plan-for-uptown.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
July 13, 20204 yr EXCLUSIVE: Mixed-use development planned for Short Vine; Sudsy Malone’s to be demolished Quote Uptown Rental Properties is looking to build a mixed-use building at 2600 Short Vine St. and a multi-family building at 2630 Short Vine St., the former home of laundromat, bar and music venue Sudsy Malone's. Patrice Eby Burke, development director for Uptown Rentals, said the new buildings are an evolution of the plan for this block of Short Vine Street since the developer got ownership of five other long-vacant properties in summer 2018. Initially, Uptown Rentals looked at putting a feeder club for Bogart’s in the old Sudsy Malone’s space. Sudsy Malone’s was a bar, music venue and laundromat that closed for good in 2008. Burke said people often talk about Sudsy’s as a cool place to see a band and do laundry. It opened in 1986 and eventually showcased a number of musical acts including Smashing Pumpkins, Beck and Over the Rhine. But Burke said the scope of the renovation was beyond anything they could make sense of. The Sudsy Malone’s building and an adjacent three-story building were in the worst shape when Uptown Rentals acquired them. Uptown Rentals put the Sudsy Malone’s building on the market for sale or lease, but the only interest was from a developer looking to build apartments on the site.
July 13, 20204 yr I see on social media that some people are upset about the loss of the Sudsy's building, but, the venue has been gone for a long time and the building itself isn't that unique/noteworthy. The "sprit" of Sudsy's moved to MOTR a decade ago.
July 13, 20204 yr I really wish Uptown Rental Properties would tear down their own office building and build something more substantial: https://www.google.com/maps/place/2600+Short+Vine+St,+Cincinnati,+OH+45219/@39.1308743,-84.5094325,3a,75y,96.21h,94.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjlblBMHwT82Nwat-CqJX0g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m5!3m4!1s0x8841b3ed2b2ef3f5:0xec552269f828eb0d!8m2!3d39.1292535!4d-84.5093034
July 13, 20204 yr 24 minutes ago, taestell said: I see on social media that some people are upset about the loss of the Sudsy's building, but, the venue has been gone for a long time and the building itself isn't that unique/noteworthy. The "sprit" of Sudsy's moved to MOTR a decade ago. I think I agree with you. I wouldn't fight this project. It'll bring more life to Short Vine, too. I think they could push for a better design at 2600 Short Vine. I don't like the way the building steps back like this.
July 13, 20204 yr 7 minutes ago, Dresden11 said: I really wish Uptown Rental Properties would tear down their own office building and build something more substantial: https://www.google.com/maps/place/2600+Short+Vine+St,+Cincinnati,+OH+45219/@39.1308743,-84.5094325,3a,75y,96.21h,94.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjlblBMHwT82Nwat-CqJX0g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m5!3m4!1s0x8841b3ed2b2ef3f5:0xec552269f828eb0d!8m2!3d39.1292535!4d-84.5093034 Same with the opposite side of the street with the Papa John's, LaRosa's, and Wing Stop. Could tear those down, build 3-4 story mixed use buildings and bring back the original tenants. Bring in another couple dozen units.
July 13, 20204 yr Motr isn't anything at all like what Sudsy's was. It's like how The Blue Wisp wasn't The Blue Wisp anymore after it moved off Piatt Park.
July 13, 20204 yr I'm still mad about the demolition of the Mad Hatter in Covington for the planned expansion of Gateway Community & Technical College. The expansion never happened and the site is still a vacant lot. There aren't many small clubs left around campus for original local bands and small touring artists to play. Holy Grail "Down Under" closed when they moved to The Banks. Mad Frog was listed for sale. I'm not sure if Rohs Street Cafe still has shows like they did when they first opened ~15 years ago, or if Clifton Heights Tavern has shows the same way Baba Budan's used to. Obviously coronavirus throws an additional wrench in works, and I'm not sure how many of the city's remaining small venues are going to make it through.
July 14, 20204 yr The Courier article doesn't mention it, but under the proposal for developing the 2600 Short Vine parcel, the City would be selling two parcels (2604 Short Vine and 4 E Corry) to Uptown Rents. July 17 Planning Commission packet has some details on Page 142, and then again on Page 297: https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/planning/about-city-planning/city-planning-commission/jul-17-2020-packet-1-of-2/ A couple other notes: The RedBike station would be relocated, but doesn't specify the new location. I wish the transformer could somehow be better hidden/integrated into the design.
July 14, 20204 yr From a design perspective, I'm pretty happy with the shape/form of these new buildings and the density they'll bring... but I really wish Uptown Rents would improve their use of materials and exterior finishes. Compared to the adjacent "VP3" apartments, the proposed design for 2600 is a slight improvement (roof has overhangs, stone lintels above windows, no white vinyl windows). So, I'm glad they're doing better on design but I still feel like they could improve the design so it doesn't feel quite so "suburban". I agree with @ryanlammi that the stepback feels awkward.
July 14, 20204 yr 21 hours ago, jmecklenborg said: Motr isn't anything at all like what Sudsy's was. It's like how The Blue Wisp wasn't The Blue Wisp anymore after it moved off Piatt Park. The folks who run MOTR are super nice (I've worked with them extensively on big events at the Woodward) and I like MOTR, but MOTR skews much older and richer than Sudsy's ever did. Sudsy's was a true dive. It's sad to lose the building but I can easily imagine a renovation not making any sense from a fiscal standpoint - that place was a divey wreck 18 years ago, so I can only imagine how bad it was now.
July 14, 20204 yr 3 hours ago, jwulsin said: The Courier article doesn't mention it, but under the proposal for developing the 2600 Short Vine parcel, the City would be selling two parcels (2604 Short Vine and 4 E Corry) to Uptown Rents. 4 E Corry is...a sidewalk that will stay? Even the existing retaining wall will stay. Is the need to purchase the sidewalk due to setback zoning?
July 14, 20204 yr 18 minutes ago, Dev said: 4 E Corry is...a sidewalk that will stay? Even the existing retaining wall will stay. Is the need to purchase the sidewalk due to setback zoning? Good observation. I''m not sure, but rear setback seems like a good conjecture.
July 15, 20204 yr So is 2606 going to remain standing? The Business Courier article doesn't mention a specific plan for it, but the rendering ominously depicts it as "clear".
July 15, 20204 yr 6 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said: So is 2606 going to remain standing? The Business Courier article doesn't mention a specific plan for it, but the rendering ominously depicts it as "clear". I had the same question/concern. After looking through the Planning Commission docs, I am not 100% sure, but it looks like it’s going to remain. A few of the site plans and renderings show it. I hope they preserve that big tree in front of 2606... the tree combined with that old building give a great sense of place and longevity. Would be a real shame to lose either that tree or that building.
July 15, 20204 yr 27 minutes ago, jwulsin said: I hope they preserve that big tree in front of 2606 I first took a photo of that building in 1997, so 23 years ago. Whenever I find it I'll look at the tree. I recall that the building was a Cincinnati Police substation in the 90s, but I never saw anything happening in it.
July 15, 20204 yr 33 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said: I first took a photo of that building in 1997, so 23 years ago. Whenever I find it I'll look at the tree. I recall that the building was a Cincinnati Police substation in the 90s, but I never saw anything happening in it. Yeah 'cause by that time the cops had seen Terminator 1 and knew that having a door sitting open to a room full of cops was a bad idea. Those other '80s movies that made a police station look like a store where you could just walk into and talk to people were way over by the '90s.
July 17, 20204 yr Mixed-use development planned for Short Vine, former Sudsy Malone’s lands key approvals A local developer looking to start construction later this year on two in-fill buildings on Short Vine Street received key approvals Friday afternoon. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/07/17/mixed-use-development-planned-for-short-vine-lands.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
August 9, 20204 yr A 27 year-old was shot and killed on Saturday night around 12:15am in front of Waffle House on McMillan St.: https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/hamilton-county/cincinnati/three-people-shot-one-dead-near-uc
August 12, 20204 yr You know how the 400-600 blocks of Klotter claim to be OTR? Everyone knows they're not and neither is this parcel at the corner of Ravine and McMicken, which is now listed for $200,000, or $50,000 for each individual lot. Frankly, I think the price is a little low. https://www.sibcycline.com/Listing/CIN/1671669/2109-Ravine-St-Clifton-OH-45214
August 12, 20204 yr 33 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said: You know how the 400-600 blocks of Klotter claim to be OTR? Everyone knows they're not and neither is this parcel at the corner of Ravine and McMicken, which is now listed for $200,000, or $50,000 for each individual lot. Frankly, I think the price is a little low. https://www.sibcycline.com/Listing/CIN/1671669/2109-Ravine-St-Clifton-OH-45214 Who is everybody? Because the OTR Community Council disagrees with you.
August 12, 20204 yr 2 hours ago, DEPACincy said: Who is everybody? Because the OTR Community Council disagrees with you. Let us now praise famous men. The corner of Klotter and W. Clifton is 2,500 feet from Findlay Market, and we are told that it's not part of OTR. The 600 block of Klotter (where it turns up to Conroy) is 4,500 feet from Findlay Market - almost a mile and almost twice as far away. The 600 block of Klotter is as far from Findlay Market as it was from the defunct South Fairmount McDonald's. The 600 block of Klotter is 8,300 feet from the corner of Sycamore and Central Parkway, but the distance from that same point to Good Samaritan Hospital is about 6,500 feet.
August 12, 20204 yr 4 hours ago, DEPACincy said: Who is everybody? Because the OTR Community Council disagrees with you. Community Councils set their own boundaries for membership. That doesn't mean that the city agrees with them. A CC could let anyone in the city become a member if they drew their boundaries that way. 2 hours ago, jmecklenborg said: Let us now praise famous men. The corner of Klotter and W. Clifton is 2,500 feet from Findlay Market, and we are told that it's not part of OTR. The 600 block of Klotter (where it turns up to Conroy) is 4,500 feet from Findlay Market - almost a mile and almost twice as far away. The 600 block of Klotter is as far from Findlay Market as it was from the defunct South Fairmount McDonald's. The 600 block of Klotter is 8,300 feet from the corner of Sycamore and Central Parkway, but the distance from that same point to Good Samaritan Hospital is about 6,500 feet. Your arbitrary distance measurements are dumb. Yeatman's Cove is closer to Newport on the Levee than Fountain Square. Does that mean it belongs to Newport? This is stupid. ______ The city is too scared to actually set the boundaries, so they pretend like the boundaries are already established. Occasionally that results in a conflict where developers only go to one community council instead of the other. There's not set map the city maintains that tells a developer which community council to visit and seek approval for. They don't want to make that decision because it would inevitably make people mad. ______ That area of Klotter isn't even claimed by CUF. So I don't know what you're going off about. My approximation based on the highlighted portion.
August 12, 20204 yr The hillsides create a lot of situations neighborhoods aren't "monocentric" circles, since neighborhood borders and contours are usually defined by where you can easily walk and/or where development patterns hit discontinuities (canals, railroads, hills, etc). This is only a "problem" if you're the kind of person who loves to categorize things and finds it bothersome when things are mislabeled. (I reluctantly identify as such.) @ryanlammi- your map/border makes sense to me and corresponds to my mental model, since it roughly delineates CUF as "on top" of the hill and OTR is at the "bottom" of the hill. The 400-600 block of Klotter (along with Conroy) is at the bottom of the hill and makes it feel closer to OTR, whereas the 200-300 block is on top of the hill and feels more like CUF (@jmecklenborg- I don't think straight-line proximity to Findlay Market makes any difference). In any case, folks who live in this area should feel free to associate with both neighborhoods, since they're right along the (arbitrary, invisible, undefined, legally irrelevant) border.
August 12, 20204 yr 10 hours ago, jmecklenborg said: Let us now praise famous men. The corner of Klotter and W. Clifton is 2,500 feet from Findlay Market, and we are told that it's not part of OTR. The 600 block of Klotter (where it turns up to Conroy) is 4,500 feet from Findlay Market - almost a mile and almost twice as far away. The 600 block of Klotter is as far from Findlay Market as it was from the defunct South Fairmount McDonald's. The 600 block of Klotter is 8,300 feet from the corner of Sycamore and Central Parkway, but the distance from that same point to Good Samaritan Hospital is about 6,500 feet. This logic doesn't make sense. The new West End Stadium is right next to Music Hall but it's not in OTR. The Shell on Liberty is half a mile from Music Hall but it IS in OTR. That's how neighborhood boundaries work.
August 12, 20204 yr 1 minute ago, DEPACincy said: This logic doesn't make sense. The new West End Stadium is right next to Music Hall but it's not in OTR. The Shell on Liberty is half a mile from Music Hall but it IS in OTR. That's how neighborhood boundaries work. So you're cool with gerrymandering? I'm ready to take this to the supreme court.
August 12, 20204 yr 16 hours ago, DEPACincy said: Who is everybody? Because the OTR Community Council disagrees with you. The OTR Community Council claims a good 1/3 of CUF as within their boundaries. I was never sure why: http://otrcommunitycouncil.org/revised-boundary/ I've always deferred to these maps as the most "official" of the various neighborhood boundaries: https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/planning/maps-and-data/census-demographics/ Per those maps, the area in question is in CUF, not OTR.
August 12, 20204 yr Weird that you wouldn't be allowed to be a member of the CUF Neighborhood Association living in that area, then if it is part of the neighborhood. It's one thing for a neighborhood to claim more than what they actually are, but it's quite another to say part of the neighborhood isn't allowed to be members. The city really needs to define the boundaries. But again, way too controversial in some instances for anyone at City Hall to want to deal with. Who would want to kick that hornet nest?
August 13, 20204 yr 7 hours ago, Ram23 said: The OTR Community Council claims a good 1/3 of CUF as within their boundaries. I was never sure why: http://otrcommunitycouncil.org/revised-boundary/ I've always deferred to these maps as the most "official" of the various neighborhood boundaries: https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/planning/maps-and-data/census-demographics/ Per those maps, the area in question is in CUF, not OTR. If you go to the Cincy Insights page it has the city recognized boundaries. It includes the properties in question in OTR but doesn't go up the hill like what you've linked to here. First time I've seen that map. It says proposed, so I'm assuming it was never adopted. The second link you provided is the "statistical neighborhood approximations." The key word there is approximations. They are not meant to be official boundaries. Rather, they are close approximations based on Census Tract boundaries. The neighborhood boundaries don't line up perfectly with Census Tracts unfortunately.
August 13, 20204 yr 20 hours ago, Ram23 said: The OTR Community Council claims a good 1/3 of CUF as within their boundaries. I was never sure why: http://otrcommunitycouncil.org/revised-boundary/ I've always deferred to these maps as the most "official" of the various neighborhood boundaries: https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/planning/maps-and-data/census-demographics/ Per those maps, the area in question is in CUF, not OTR. I was a trustee of the OTRCC when we previously revised this in 2011, I actually led the committee revising the bylaws. This is actually better than the original boundaries, which extended all the way to McMillian for some reason. We kept them at Warner since we had active members in this area.
August 13, 20204 yr ^I would expect that we'll see people seeking to cash in to get Rice/Valencia/Winkler/Gage to be considered "OTR" rather than Mt. Auburn. There was a house for sale up there back in 2014 for $5,000 that...I should have bought.
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