5 minutes ago, JB said:

Are the blighted factories/warehouses you see on 90 from the east side by Bratenahl considered East Cleveland? For as long as I can remember that has looked rough. Something definitely needs to be done.

 

No, that's mostly Glenville.

 

5 minutes ago, X said:

The lower portion of East Cleveland that would go to Cleveland is more blighted, but has more upside due to proximity to University Circle and the Red Line.

 

Agreed. There's real opportunity there IF the land can be made development-ready and put under the governance of an administration that has a clue.

 

And  @MyPhoneDead mentioned the site near the Superior RTA station -- which is targeted by a New York City developer who has the luxury of not having to hear the decades of horror stories of trying to do anything positive in East Cleveland.

Where exactly are people assuming/proposing the dividing line be? Just looking at it, it seems like the line aught to be roughly Forest Hill Ave/Terrace Rd, with perhaps some minor deviations. Basically drawing a line from the edge of the Cemetery/Park. Is that about what everyone else is assuming or am I way off base? 

 

Also, I think the political issue is less about precedence, and more about the Republicans having little to gain politically from rectifying the situation. Combined with the fact that it would almost certainly be messy, there's little incentive for current political leaders to overcome the inertia of the status quo and do the right thing. 

17 minutes ago, Ethan said:

Where exactly are people assuming/proposing the dividing line be? Just looking at it, it seems like the line aught to be roughly Forest Hill Ave/Terrace Rd, with perhaps some minor deviations. Basically drawing a line from the edge of the Cemetery/Park. Is that about what everyone else is assuming or am I way off base? 

 

Also, I think the political issue is less about precedence, and more about the Republicans having little to gain politically from rectifying the situation. Combined with the fact that it would almost certainly be messy, there's little incentive for current political leaders to overcome the inertia of the status quo and do the right thing. 

 

Until interests in University Circle, Glenville and Cleveland Heights start complaining and calling for action, you're probably right that nothing will be done. I suppose we could all just let nature take its course and let East Cleveland continue to evaporate until there's nothing left but an urban prairie. And what's interesting is that the worst decline that this suburb has experienced has occurred just in the past 15 years.

33 minutes ago, Ethan said:

Where exactly are people assuming/proposing the dividing line be? Just looking at it, it seems like the line aught to be roughly Forest Hill Ave/Terrace Rd, with perhaps some minor deviations. Basically drawing a line from the edge of the Cemetery/Park. Is that about what everyone else is assuming or am I way off base? 

 

Also, I think the political issue is less about precedence, and more about the Republicans having little to gain politically from rectifying the situation. Combined with the fact that it would almost certainly be messy, there's little incentive for current political leaders to overcome the inertia of the status quo and do the right thing. 

 

As I understand the law, the state can take over administration of the EC government, but there is no legal mechanism for a city to be dissolved or split up, and mergers can only happen when the citizens want to merge.

 

If EC wanted to merge, which currently does not appear to be the case, they probably would just be choosing between joining either the city of Cleveland or Cleveland Heights, all or nothing.

 

This point is very important -- East Cleveland has to want a merger and has to agree to a merger.  Pride is going to be a major stumbling block --there are people in EC who think that if only the county/state/feds will give them the money and get out of their way, EC can solve its own problems.  I know East Clevelanders who see all this whining about EC as talking down to East Clevelanders, as if they don't know what their problems are or what needs to be done to fix them, while not actually offering real help.  If you're just going to complain and not provide the resources to actually fix the problem, East Clevelanders will continue the slow slog to fixing their problems themselves.

 

I don't know what it will take for attitudes to change, but we can't "armchair warrior" solutions to EC, no matter how much we'd like to.  Are there any forum lurkers who actually live in EC?

As I understand it, if a merger were to take place between 2 jurisdictions in Ohio, the citizens of both would need to vote seperately to proceed. This is a good breakdown on the issue, starting at discussion of EC 

 

 

For Sun Newspapers, I wrote about East Cleveland as a cautionary tale for other suburbs. I wrote that column back in the mid-1990s after East Cleveland lost one-fourth of population, dropping to near 30,000 people. From that reduced amount, it has since lost another 2/3 of its population.....

 

 

As a Glenville resident you'd have a hard time selling residents of that neighborhood (ESPECIALLY that neighborhood due to it's similar proximity to UC), Collinwood, St.Clair-Superior etc. on a merger. That proximity hasn't benefited the neighborhood as much as we let on.

Cleveland hasn't even been able to reinvest properly in Glenville and other bleeding east side neighborhoods, so you'll have residents complaining that they'd be even further forgotten about. I can't say I'd blame them either, Glenville is unstable, dangerous and blighted. Until they see that they are being taken care of they don't want Cleveland to take on more.

Circle north isn't a good argument because that's such a small slither of Glenville and after 5+ years of Frank Jackson's developments along 105th it the economic development and investment hasn't made it beyond the OTHER side of Superior towards St.clair. What has been built outside of the 30 affordable homes that were built is unaffordable and unobtainable to other residents. Those 30 homes didn't even put a dent into what Glenville needs.

Only the residents next to or close to University Circle have benefited and it looks like it will remain that way for a while. So until that changes and Cleveland shows that it can support the East Side neighborhoods that it currently has then the East side is an extremely hard sell for this merger at the ballot. Combine that with residents looking at East Cleveland as a blemish and undesirable already, makes this dead in the water at the ballot.

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5 hours ago, coneflower said:

As I understand it, if a merger were to take place between 2 jurisdictions in Ohio, the citizens of both would need to vote seperately to proceed. This is a good breakdown on the issue, starting at discussion of EC 

 

 

 

 

yeah really great and clear presentation thanks.

 

i wonder how long or how many times can a city default or remain financially unsound? it would seem there is precedence for the state to make some kind of dissolution move as they do take over unsound school districts, albeit temporarily. i dk — i’m sure no one in columbus wants to take that on.

 

what tough nut regionalism is to crack in a land of small fiefdoms, but i think the presentor showed a continuing way forward that is already happening locally, which is by pushes at regionalizing individual services one at a time like schools, sewers, sanitation, non-profits, etc. to get balls rolling as being more doable in the near term.

If East Cleveland depopulates in a manner similar to other East Side Cleveland neighborhoods like Central and Hough, its slide may not stop until it has only 10 percent of its peak population, or a mere 4,000 people. If that happens, East Cleveland will no longer have the population to be a municipality. In that case, the process of a municipality annexing a village or township can be simpler:

 

https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-709.30

17 hours ago, JB said:

Are the blighted factories/warehouses you see on 90 from the east side by Bratenahl considered East Cleveland? For as long as I can remember that has looked rough. Something definitely needs to be done.

 

No that's city of Cleveland.   

9 hours ago, KJP said:

If East Cleveland depopulates in a manner similar to other East Side Cleveland neighborhoods like Central and Hough, its slide may not stop until it has only 10 percent of its peak population, or a mere 4,000 people. If that happens, East Cleveland will no longer have the population to be a municipality. In that case, the process of a municipality annexing a village or township can be simpler:

 

https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-709.30

What an interesting projection. And I wonder if that might not be the most feasible way forward, eventually.

 

And while technically part of the built-out inventory of Cuyahoga County, it could be the opportunity to land massive, economic development or relocation projects. Annex it, Columbus style. Without disturbing the remaining population, remediate the abandoned areas to be re-developed, and lure projects that could massively contribute to Cleveland‘s tax base. Intel phase 8 looking for more land? How about the 1800 contiguous acres of newly developable in the East Cleveland neighborhood of Cleveland. 

 

 

Demolishing all those homes and consolidating all those thousands of lots is going to be quite a task.  Moreso because the remaining residents will still be scattered randomly about them.  I still think it's better to focus on finding a way to reverse the blight rather than let it continue and then trying to clean it up the debris.  A vacant lot does not a greenfield make.

48 minutes ago, X said:

Demolishing all those homes and consolidating all those thousands of lots is going to be quite a task.  Moreso because the remaining residents will still be scattered randomly about them.  I still think it's better to focus on finding a way to reverse the blight rather than let it continue and then trying to clean it up the debris.  A vacant lot does not a greenfield make.

 

Perhaps, but this is East Cleveland which does not have many redeeming aspects other than its historic building stock. And with at least the larger apartment buildings over on Chapman and Terrace, you had bodies being dumped there and much deviant crime that it necessitated a multitude of cameras watching the streets 24/7. At some point, it has to be accepted that no amount of intervention will help East Cleveland and that it should continue to fall to a new stable and sustainable population level.

 

@KJP has an interesting perspective and it's what I (and others) have advocated for in the coalfields down in Appalachia. These towns were built for a singular purpose: to facilitate the movement of coal, and nothing else. Once the company leaves, there isn't much to tether the remaining residents to it and it slowly declines. Considering you have counties losing 80% of their population in 50 years, demolition is the only option as there isn't wealth or people left to sustain communities and municipalities.

 

East Cleveland was highly dependent on General Electric. Losing that was the death kneel and those that did remain aren't really commuting to a large extent to other population centers. They are moving out.

 

There are still some buildings worth saving, but so many of them are now exhibiting advanced structural deterioration. And while the city has some nice historic buildings with architectural merit, others (like those on Chapman) were just brick boxes.

Edited August 23, 20231 yr by seicer

being absorbed into cleveland isn't a clean slate. cleveland has trouble managing its own blighted streets. a mass demo project like what is being proposed would have to be a federal thing to be done quickly

being absorbed into cleveland isn't a clean slate. cleveland has trouble managing its own blighted streets. a mass demo project like what is being proposed would have to be a federal thing to be done quickly

Although I went on a rant about the same thing there are bright spots. Cleveland brings: stability, a much more competent government, and most important to developers and residents they bring stable and reliable city services.

Cleveland being the namesake city would definitely spur further development down Euclid as University Circle fills up due to those reasons. University Circle and developers are slow to build due to the lack of everything that I mentioned from East Cleveland.

Honestly the main thing that will spur major change is Ohio and East Cleveland experiencing national embarrassment. No state wants to be the home of a city that experiences something like bankruptcy. Bad PR causes any organization or government to make sweeping changes. Look at Cuyahoga County changing their entire government system after the corruption charges came down and made news everywhere.

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One good thing with annexation is it will boost Cleveland's population, although I doubt Cleveland needs any more impoverished residents.

 

Edited August 23, 20231 yr by LibertyBlvd

3 hours ago, seicer said:

 

Perhaps, but this is East Cleveland which does not have many redeeming aspects other than its historic building stock. And with at least the larger apartment buildings over on Chapman and Terrace, you had bodies being dumped there and much deviant crime that it necessitated a multitude of cameras watching the streets 24/7. At some point, it has to be accepted that no amount of intervention will help East Cleveland and that it should continue to fall to a new stable and sustainable population level.

 

@KJP has an interesting perspective and it's what I (and others) have advocated for in the coalfields down in Appalachia. These towns were built for a singular purpose: to facilitate the movement of coal, and nothing else. Once the company leaves, there isn't much to tether the remaining residents to it and it slowly declines. Considering you have counties losing 80% of their population in 50 years, demolition is the only option as there isn't wealth or people left to sustain communities and municipalities.

 

East Cleveland was highly dependent on General Electric. Losing that was the death kneel and those that did remain aren't really commuting to a large extent to other population centers. They are moving out.

 

There are still some buildings worth saving, but so many of them are now exhibiting advanced structural deterioration. And while the city has some nice historic buildings with architectural merit, others (like those on Chapman) were just brick boxes.

East Cleveland and Appalachian coal towns are poor analogues. People are leaving East Cleveland because of it's poor performance as a residential neighborhood within a larger metropolitan context, owing to a number of historic and contemporary problems.  People are leaving Appalachian coal towns because without the mine, there is no remaining economic base within a commutable range.

 

If we are to undertake mass demolition that will require massive public subsidy on top of massive private losses of equity.  The winners would be a few developers with the scale to do large projects.  Staunching the losses will require massive public subsidy, but can avoid the private losses.  The winners would be East Cleveland homeowners, as well as developers of a broader range of scales.

1 hour ago, X said:

East Cleveland and Appalachian coal towns are poor analogues. People are leaving East Cleveland because of it's poor performance as a residential neighborhood within a larger metropolitan context, owing to a number of historic and contemporary problems.  People are leaving Appalachian coal towns because without the mine, there is no remaining economic base within a commutable range.

 

East Cleveland suffered when GE began downsizing Nela Park in the mid-1970s and especially when it closed all of the manufacturing plants in the area - leaving them as brownfields or abandoned hulks. No different than when the coal company leaves behind its tipples and preparation plants. And while East Cleveland was not a company town, Nela Park did employ nearly 3,000 in the mid-1970s (and thousands more in the surrounding factories).

 

2 hours ago, MyPhoneDead said:

Although I went on a rant about the same thing there are bright spots. Cleveland brings: stability, a much more competent government, and most important to developers and residents they bring stable and reliable city services.

 

Better than East Cleveland? Sure. But I wouldn't say reliable. We couldn't even get our streets swept of debris in Shaker Square without the now-jailed council member sending over a street sweeper once a year with his name and face plastered all over it. I think it read something like "WITH THANKS TO KEN JOHNSON". Thanks for taking care of basic needs?

Thought I'd write about it.....

 

 

The fate of East Cleveland
By Ken Prendergast / August 23, 2023

 

In the 1950s, after my mother Edith March Prendergast divorced her first husband, she moved herself and her two boys to Greater Cleveland to be near family. After a brief stay at the Alcazar Hotel, she settled at the south end of Glenmont Avenue in Cleveland Heights. Then she moved to the north end of Glenmont which is in East Cleveland. There, she, Dale and Dean stayed until the early 1960s when she married my father James and moved into his home in Lyndhurst.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blog/2023/08/23/the-fate-of-east-cleveland/

On 8/20/2023 at 9:23 AM, KJP said:

I think it's time for a state takeover of East Cleveland. The city government is incapable of governing. Unfortunately the article is paywalled...

 

Cleveland Metroparks pulls out of deal to restore East Cleveland section of Forest Hill Park

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/08/cleveland-metroparks-pulls-out-of-deal-to-restore-east-cleveland-section-of-forest-hill-park.html?fbclid=IwAR2SMFv0u9ve_4mBGIIKdL_fCekz5IN_6eh_ufTXaX1clq6BZ9ZtE42vM3A

No way in hell should Cleveland have to assume the debt that is East Cleveland. Half of Cleveland itself is basically east Cleveland already. The city doesn't have the resources to take over that mass, especially with the state of its police force.

I like the Genesis rendering.  To me, it has more pizzazz than most of the four story specials rising in many locations,

On 8/23/2023 at 7:06 PM, KJP said:

Thought I'd write about it.....

 

 

The fate of East Cleveland
By Ken Prendergast / August 23, 2023

 

In the 1950s, after my mother Edith March Prendergast divorced her first husband, she moved herself and her two boys to Greater Cleveland to be near family. After a brief stay at the Alcazar Hotel, she settled at the south end of Glenmont Avenue in Cleveland Heights. Then she moved to the north end of Glenmont which is in East Cleveland. There, she, Dale and Dean stayed until the early 1960s when she married my father James and moved into his home in Lyndhurst.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blog/2023/08/23/the-fate-of-east-cleveland/

Spent the first 5 years of my life in East Cleveland--my first few months on Garden Rd, then the rest of that time on Nelaview Rd.  

We left in 1972. Some white neighbors begged my dad not to sell to a black person but not only did he sell to a black person, he held the note on it, selling it via a land contract. The buyer wanted the house so badly that she waited several months (8 or 9, I think) while my dad looked for a house to move us to. Descendents of that person still own the house today.  

I have fond memories of our time there. There were several shops on Noble Rd, including a corner store at the end of our street where I sometimes bought candy (well, the last summer/fall we were there anyway). I would go with my mom to the Fisher-Fazio's grocery where the Save-a-Lot is now.  That little sliver of East Cleveland is about the only halfway descent area of the city that's left.  It was a very nice city in its day.  Sad what happened. 

 

 

Edited September 14, 20231 yr by gildone

The TOD potential of the Genesis project can be outstanding with both the Healthline and Red Line stations just steps away.

I hope developments that are occurring along Euclid will cause RTA to renovate the Superior Station. I skip it on purpose in favor of Windermere due to its condition. Broken glass, dim lighting and broken escalators don’t bode well for ridership if they are serious about TOD in this area.


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Wasn't paying attention and missed the Little Italy stop today.  Got off at Superior to get the train back and saw the broken glass... sad

Edited September 23, 20231 yr by gildone

news 5 article  Mayor of East Cleveland now has a second impeachment attempt with that special election to happen in December. 

 

Could this impact Circle East or the East Cleveland Adult Activity Center redevelopment site?

news 5 article  Mayor of East Cleveland now has a second impeachment attempt with that special election to happen in December. 
 
Could this impact Circle East or the East Cleveland Adult Activity Center redevelopment site?

For a city that doesn't want to merge they sure love spending money on impeachments because they can't find good leaders.

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Nela Park may add residential
By Ken Prendergast / November 7, 2023

 

Many Greater Clevelanders have at least some familiarity with a place that could soon become home to many Greater Clevelanders. The owner of the former General Electric Lighting headquarters, 1975 Noble Rd. in East Cleveland, is preparing plans to convert several office buildings within the 94-acre Nela Park Campus into apartments and make those intentions known at a meeting of local stakeholders, possibly as early as this month, according to a source familiar with the project.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blog/2023/11/07/nela-park-may-add-residential/

Whoa

 

https://circleeastdistrict.org/

 

 

3 hours ago, MuRrAy HiLL said:

Whoa

 

https://circleeastdistrict.org/

 

 

I can’t wait for the gentrification of East Cleveland bellows. Good gawd it’s gonna be painful.

So who is driving this? Looks like these are County properties. Who are developers involved? Hopefully East Cleveland doesn't get in its own way. 

@MuRrAy HiLL been in the news a while. See my article from September of 2022...

 

https://neo-trans.blog/2022/09/09/money-turning-circle-east-plan-to-reality/

On 8/20/2023 at 9:23 AM, KJP said:

I think it's time for a state takeover of East Cleveland. The city government is incapable of governing. Unfortunately the article is paywalled...

 

Cleveland Metroparks pulls out of deal to restore East Cleveland section of Forest Hill Park

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/08/cleveland-metroparks-pulls-out-of-deal-to-restore-east-cleveland-section-of-forest-hill-park.html?fbclid=IwAR2SMFv0u9ve_4mBGIIKdL_fCekz5IN_6eh_ufTXaX1clq6BZ9ZtE42vM3A

Is there any chance this deal could resuscitate itself? Perhaps when East Cleveland is run by a different set of incompetent leaders? I'm hoping this is more of an indefinitely on hold situation than a completely dead one, because, ridiculous incompetence of the city aside, it's still a good idea. 

7 hours ago, Ethan said:

Is there any chance this deal could resuscitate itself? Perhaps when East Cleveland is run by a different set of incompetent leaders? I'm hoping this is more of an indefinitely on hold situation than a completely dead one, because, ridiculous incompetence of the city aside, it's still a good idea. 

 

Of course. Could be in six months, six years or sixty years. Ideas never die. They just need new hosts.

This is a great and simple idea from TPL to open up school playgrounds as parks during non school hours. 

 

https://thelandcle.org/stories/east-clevelands-caledonia-elementary-unveils-ohios-first-community-schoolyard-design/

 

 

This school is actually technically in Cleveland Heights, but since it serves East Cleveland students, I'll put it here.

Loiter Cafe and Marketplace to open in East Cleveland, first business in Circle East redevelopment

Paris Wolfe - Cleveland.com - May 17, 2024

 

 

"In mid-June, Loiter will be the first business to open in the new Circle East development near the border of Cleveland and East Cleveland. It is in the former Mickey’s Rust Proofing Building, which was originally a car dealership. Loiter leases the former storefront showroom at 15001 Euclid Avenue, East Cleveland."

On 5/17/2024 at 6:45 PM, NorthShore647 said:

Loiter Cafe and Marketplace to open in East Cleveland, first business in Circle East redevelopment

Paris Wolfe - Cleveland.com - May 17, 2024

 

 

"In mid-June, Loiter will be the first business to open in the new Circle East development near the border of Cleveland and East Cleveland. It is in the former Mickey’s Rust Proofing Building, which was originally a car dealership. Loiter leases the former storefront showroom at 15001 Euclid Avenue, East Cleveland."

Does anyone know what's going on with this? Apparently Loiter is in a legal battle with the Land Bank now. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2024/07/east-clevelands-loiter-cafe-on-hold-amid-lawsuit-against-cuyahoga-county-land-bank.html%3foutputType=amp

 

Circle East improvements continue, more due
By Ken Prendergast / July 10, 2024

 

In a 30-acre area of targeted investment called the Circle East District, located in East Cleveland, the Cuyahoga Land Bank announced it has completed major features of its first phase to revive the neighborhood. The multi-phase $95 million effort led by the Cuyahoga Land Bank to rebuild the neighborhood from the sewers up began two years ago. However, a commercial component to the redevelopment has hit a legal snag.

 

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https://neo-trans.blog/2024/07/10/circle-east-improvements-continue-more-due/

Loiter Café says opening stalled until Cuyahoga County Land Bank provides adequate power

Paris Wolfe - Cleveland.com - July 19, 2024

 

"From Samad’s perspective, the major conflict now is whether the building’s electrical service is adequate enough to complete the cafe buildout and open it in time. ... Without adequate electrical service, Loiter can’t finish its build out, file for inspections and get permits, says Samad. And that means the non-profit cafe and market can’t open by its legally required August deadline."

 

Biotech biz plans $12M investment in East Cleveland
By Ken Prendergast / July 21, 2024

 

One week after the Cuyahoga Land Bank completed a $3.5 million renovation of the Mickey’s building, 12550 Euclid Ave., in East Cleveland, it announced the sale of the building to Verdynt Bio, a Boston-based science facility developer with strong ties to Ohio. Verdynt Bio’s operations partner, SKYLIIT Labs, said it plans to invest more than $12 million into the site to create 100 jobs in a state-of-the-art laboratory and office co-working space.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blog/2024/07/21/biotech-biz-plans-12m-investment-in-east-cleveland/

How the heck did East Cleveland land that?

28 minutes ago, JB said:

How the heck did East Cleveland land that?

 

Because it's basically University Circle over there.   It's by the solar panels and there's some nicer looking apartments across the street.  

I wonder how this will go over and how successful this district will be when East Cleveland has abysmal city services, an integral part of what makes people comfortable with laying roots. 

47 minutes ago, MyPhoneDead said:

I wonder how this will go over and how successful this district will be when East Cleveland has abysmal city services, an integral part of what makes people comfortable with laying roots. 

 

They'll probably have to do what the first revitalized parts of Cleveland had to do -- create a CDC and special assessment district to fund neighborhood-level community services. 

On 7/19/2024 at 5:53 PM, NorthShore647 said:

Loiter Café says opening stalled until Cuyahoga County Land Bank provides adequate power

Paris Wolfe - Cleveland.com - July 19, 2024

 

"From Samad’s perspective, the major conflict now is whether the building’s electrical service is adequate enough to complete the cafe buildout and open it in time. ... Without adequate electrical service, Loiter can’t finish its build out, file for inspections and get permits, says Samad. And that means the non-profit cafe and market can’t open by its legally required August deadline."

 

Sounds like this guy got bleeped over by the Land Bank.

Loiter Café overcomes the odds and opens despite landlord issues and recent storms (photos)

https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2024/08/loiter-cafe-overcomes-the-odds-and-opens-despite-landlord-issues-and-recent-storms-photos.html

 

Glad this was able to open - looks like a really nice space!

 

Land Bank, Loiter Cafe call truce in East Cleveland
By Ken Prendergast / November 22, 2024

 

Cuyahoga Land Bank and Loiter Cafe and Marketplace are pleased to announce they have settled their dueling lawsuits concerning the Mickey’s Building, 12550 Euclid Ave., in East Cleveland. The land bank and Loiter said they realized an amicable solution was achievable and in everyone’s best interest.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blog/2024/11/22/land-bank-loiter-cafe-call-truce-in-east-cleveland/

3 hours ago, KJP said:

 

Land Bank, Loiter Cafe call truce in East Cleveland
By Ken Prendergast / November 22, 2024

 

Cuyahoga Land Bank and Loiter Cafe and Marketplace are pleased to announce they have settled their dueling lawsuits concerning the Mickey’s Building, 12550 Euclid Ave., in East Cleveland. The land bank and Loiter said they realized an amicable solution was achievable and in everyone’s best interest.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blog/2024/11/22/land-bank-loiter-cafe-call-truce-in-east-cleveland/

I think you have a typo here... 

 

"Loiter is more than just a cafe and foot marketplace"

 

Or else I'm very confused about what they do here. 

Thanks! Fixed. That's what I get for being in a rush to make it to a lunch meeting....

Checked out Loiter Cafe for lunch … 10/10 …GREAT addition / renovation to EC… and next door is the “Development Coming Soon” sign.

 

Recommend the Honey Turmeric Latte :D  

Moving forward with homes and townhomes, but for the life of me I can't find any renderings besides one listed as "possible future developments" that looked too good to be true

 

this was the only other image I could find, if true i actually really love these.