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8 hours ago, marty15 said:

The Hulett Hotel??? First I’ve heard of it. Looks like an awesome project.

 

http://www.redhousearchitecture.org/hullet-hotel

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Holy crap I love this design, it's something unique and also something you'd see in major metropolises, as long as it has street retail (coffee shop, bakery, etc.), I'm totally in! 

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^ from the looks of the render it sure looks like it would have something like that. and yeah it is very modern/brooklyn looking. a lot of people prefer these smaller boutique type hotels to other options, so i am sure it would do great. perfect moniker for it too!

On 8/23/2019 at 8:34 AM, GISguy said:

Holy crap I love this design, it's something unique and also something you'd see in major metropolises, as long as it has street retail (coffee shop, bakery, etc.), I'm totally in! 

 

They still don't have all their financing. 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I know that negotiations fell through between Carnegie and the potential operator of a hotel project at One Lakewood Place.

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On 7/16/2019 at 10:32 AM, KJP said:

I don't have much information on this, hence no blog article, but I'm hearing that the Ohio Bell Building will be a Curio Collection by Hilton, not Hilton's Canopy brand. And I'm told that the property's sale should close next week. Hopefully this will bring some life to a pretty dead street (except during evening sporting events). Here's some photos I took of this Art Deco beauty yesterday...

 

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What ever happened to the Ohio Bell Building on Huron. It was supposed to file in July and become a Curio Collection Hotel.

4 hours ago, simplythis said:

What ever happened to the Ohio Bell Building on Huron. It was supposed to file in July and become a Curio Collection Hotel.

I'm kind of questioning it will actually happen when the hotel industry had a "so-so" year according to a recent Cleveland.com article. Occupancy was about 68% over last year.

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So a 21c Museum Hotel??

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

11 minutes ago, KJP said:

So a 21c Museum Hotel??

 

 

That with a JW Marriott down the street would really create some amazing hotel options.

^JW?  Did I miss an announcement on that?

Except for the Hilton Convention Center and a few others, Marriott (and Sheraton subs) will pretty much own the downtown hotel market.

While the Ritz-Carlton is impressive, the addition of a JW Marriott will take the Cleveland hotel market to a whole different level.

Edited by Frmr CLEder

^Was there an announcement for a JW?  Where will it be?

12 minutes ago, Pugu said:

^Was there an announcement for a JW?  Where will it be?

Possibly per KJP as part of the Centennial renovation.

^Thanks. That would be great! 

For those w/out a subscription, the Walton family might be turning the Baker Building into a 21c Museum hotel.

 

Baker Building's buyer may be a big leaguer

 

A company named 1900 East 6th LLC that was formed in Ohio on March 13 may hold an intriguing connection to the mystery buyer and potential reuse of the Baker Building, which occupies that address in downtown Cleveland.

 

The same name was used on Jan. 27 to buy the 1919 vintage structure on resurgent East Sixth Street for $1.8 million from the prior owner, real estate investor and educator J. Scott Scheele, who held it through the Diamond Investment Group Building LLC. That's the word according to the deed in Cuyahoga County records.

 

https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/baker-buildings-buyer-may-be-big-leaguer

 

More......

 

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FRIDAY, MARCH 20, 2020

Baker Building may become boutique hotel -- eventually

 

The 11-story Baker Building at 1900 E. 6th St. in downtown Cleveland enjoys a brighter future now that it's in the hands of a deep-pocketed firm. But that future may not be imminent. However, the delay has nothing to do with the global pandemic, according to a source familiar with the project.

Instead, the Walton Enterprises of Walmart fame which bought the Class C office building usually acquires and sits on older, sometimes distressed buildings before renovating them, said the source who was not authorized to speak publicly on the project.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/03/baker-building-may-become-boutique.html

Edited by KJP

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Updated the article with an unhelpful comment from the Walton family.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

 

7 minutes ago, ASPhotoman said:

 

Now the question is where.. hmmm. The old Landmark building?

1 minute ago, WindyBuckeye said:

Now the question is where.. hmmm. The old Landmark building?

The Rockefeller building would make for an amazing hotel conversion. Not to mention being directly across the street from SHW. Would be nice to have more hotels in the Warehouse District.

5 minutes ago, ASPhotoman said:

The Rockefeller building would make for an amazing hotel conversion. Not to mention being directly across the street from SHW. Would be nice to have more hotels in the Warehouse District.

 

i like that idea even more. Would be an awesome conversion for sure.

2 hours ago, ASPhotoman said:

The Rockefeller building would make for an amazing hotel conversion. Not to mention being directly across the street from SHW. Would be nice to have more hotels in the Warehouse District.

 

Not happening.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Like, ever.

7 minutes ago, tastybunns said:

Like, ever.

 

Well...

Edited by KJP

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

17 hours ago, ASPhotoman said:

The Rockefeller building would make for an amazing hotel conversion. Not to mention being directly across the street from SHW. Would be nice to have more hotels in the Warehouse District.

Just wait and see. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised... 

2 hours ago, zbaris87 said:

Just wait and see. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised... 

After @KJP's last comment...I was hoping something good was on the horizon. ?

Just now, ASPhotoman said:

After @KJP's last comment...I was hoping something good was on the horizon. ?

 

"Wait and see" doesn't mean it isn't. It simply means "wait and see." ? 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Something good is on ths horizon;  it just won't be a hotel. It's a beautiful building. My mom used to work there for the State of Ohio.

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Regarding the Baker Building ^

 

Someone on Twitter reported that Sapporo Sushi is being forced to close at some point- I assume due to the renovation of this building, and I assume the other businesses (Daves, Souper Market, Moriartys) will face the same dillemna.  With SO MANY empty storefronts downtown it would be such a shame to lose these businesses... It would be nice if they could fill up the retail around the parking garage at 800 Superior (Next to Phoenix Coffee)

Any update on Hulett Hotel - W25th St.?  Their facebook page still says "Opening 2020".

Remember: It's the Year of the Snake

^They have no website despite having "huletthotel.com" on the picture above.  And the facebook last post was in 2018.  I hope it does happen, though it doesn't look like a covid-related delay as its been radio silence since 2018.

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Although this article doesn't mention Cleveland, it does he mention a surprising trend -- that hotel development plans are on the upswing despite a pandemic. And yes there are new hotels under consideration for Cleveland....

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Based upon the numbers, it would appear that the development is being driven by the bottom of the market, cost-conscious leisure/vacation travel and business segment of the market. 

Edited by Frmr CLEder

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Unwanted guest: Until COVID-19 checks out, hotels will be in sick bay
https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/unwanted-guest-until-covid-19-checks-out-hotels-will-be-sick-bay

 

Northeast Ohio hotel projects aren't dead, but pandemic stalls development pipeline
https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/northeast-ohio-hotel-projects-arent-dead-pandemic-stalls-development-pipeline

 

Busy day at Crain’s reporting on the struggles in the Hotel industry.  Sounds like we shouldn’t expect Midtown’s Dream Hotel to be open until 2024, if it goes forward.

10 hours ago, Sapper Daddy said:

Unwanted guest: Until COVID-19 checks out, hotels will be in sick bay
https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/unwanted-guest-until-covid-19-checks-out-hotels-will-be-sick-bay

 

Northeast Ohio hotel projects aren't dead, but pandemic stalls development pipeline
https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/northeast-ohio-hotel-projects-arent-dead-pandemic-stalls-development-pipeline

 

Busy day at Crain’s reporting on the struggles in the Hotel industry.  Sounds like we shouldn’t expect Midtown’s Dream Hotel to be open until 2024, if it goes forward.

Now we’re really starting to see the real longer term effects of Covid kicking in - where they hit hardest - the hospitality industry and the entertainment world.  The Dream Hotel project possibly delayed(?) and any act 2 for the Lumen  (as per @KJP’s post over the weekend) probably years away as PHS struggles to recover from this extended shutdown. Perhaps the arrival of a vaccine might start to turn things around, but that’s above my pay grade. 

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TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 2020

Dream Hotel development delayed more than a year

 

Given the current state of the pandemic-ravaged hospitality industry, it probably shouldn't come as a surprise that the proposed 19-story Dream Hotel next to the Masonic Temple in Cleveland's Midtown has been delayed.

 

According to the construction database The Dodge Reports, the delay will be more than one year. The site reported that design work on the hotel will be on hold until Summer 2021. That means the earliest construction could start would be Summer 2022, it said. Last spring, officials at New York-based Dream Hotels hoped to start construction in early 2021.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/09/dream-hotel-development-delayed-more.html

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^ that kinda goes without saying unfortunately, but let's hope it actually does get built eventually because it's a very cool idea.

14 hours ago, KJP said:

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TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 2020

Dream Hotel development delayed more than a year

 

Given the current state of the pandemic-ravaged hospitality industry, it probably shouldn't come as a surprise that the proposed 19-story Dream Hotel next to the Masonic Temple in Cleveland's Midtown has been delayed.

 

According to the construction database The Dodge Reports, the delay will be more than one year. The site reported that design work on the hotel will be on hold until Summer 2021. That means the earliest construction could start would be Summer 2022, it said. Last spring, officials at New York-based Dream Hotels hoped to start construction in early 2021.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/09/dream-hotel-development-delayed-more.html

 

I'll let you know if I get any updates from my friend there.  

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The Fidelity/Baker Building won $2 million in state tax credits (in exchange for the previous 1.7mil).  The article says the buyer who purchased this building in January has ties to Walmart's Walton family.  Project is expected to cost $23.4 million.  @KJP do you know anything about this project?  

 

https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/future-crosscountry-mortgage-hqs-site-leads-northeast-ohio-winners-state-historic-tax

7 minutes ago, cle_guy90 said:

The Fidelity/Baker Building won $2 million in state tax credits (in exchange for the previous 1.7mil).  The article says the buyer who purchased this building in January has ties to Walmart's Walton family.  Project is expected to cost $23.4 million.  @KJP do you know anything about this project?  

 

https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/future-crosscountry-mortgage-hqs-site-leads-northeast-ohio-winners-state-historic-tax

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/03/baker-building-may-become-boutique.html

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27 minutes ago, Klingaling87 said:

I disagree with this statement wholeheartedly. The hospitality market and financing for new projects is starting to loosen across the country, and in Cleveland there are many hotels in the planning stages. It’s about creating a destination, not just having another Hampton inn. This should be moved to the hotel thread as to not derail the SHW conversation. 

 

Let's discuss here. And he's right -- there are three hotel developments in/near downtown that I'm aware of that are alive and kicking.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

1 hour ago, KJP said:

 

Let's discuss here. And he's right -- there are three hotel developments in/near downtown that I'm aware of that are alive and kicking.

 

One downtown and two in Ohio City?

35 minutes ago, Clefan98 said:

 

One downtown and two in Ohio City?

 

Oops, four. One downtown, one in Midtown and two in Ohio City.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

7 minutes ago, KJP said:

 

Oops, four. One downtown, one in Midtown and two in Ohio City.

Midtown is Dream Hotel?

Dream Hotel for Midtown, Hulett Hotel and Bridgeworks for Ohio City. Unless I forgot about something, the mystery is the downtown hotel....

54 minutes ago, tykaps said:

Dream Hotel for Midtown, Hulett Hotel and Bridgeworks for Ohio City. Unless I forgot about something, the mystery is the downtown hotel....

 

and one 160-room hotel in University Circle as part of the Circle Square project.

1 hour ago, tykaps said:

Dream Hotel for Midtown, Hulett Hotel and Bridgeworks for Ohio City. Unless I forgot about something, the mystery is the downtown hotel....


Don’t forget about the potential 21C in the Baker building. 

43 minutes ago, willyboy said:


Don’t forget about the potential 21C in the Baker building. 

 

Is the hotel at Nucleus dead....or is all of nucleus dead?

No hotel in Nucleus 

Just now, skiwest said:

With the IX Center closed, more events will now need to be held at Huntington Convention Center.  That should result in an increase in downtown visitors as well as an increase in hotel occupancy.

 

Very true.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I’ve always thought the Ohio Bell Building would  be an amazing  hotel conversion if done right  - I don’t know if it would be a particularly difficult building to convert. Probably would be too large not to be a mixed usage project.  I’d love to hear news on that front in the near future. . 

 

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