March 8, 201213 yr With all the hotels and rumors of hotels in the market, does anyone know the room count for hotel rooms we're at right now or will be in the near future? I know larger conventions look at that when deciding to come to a city or not.
March 8, 201213 yr Seen as you are a renowned world traveler ;) can you point us to another similar sized city with two hotels of the same brand in their Downtown. I just feel that outside of a city that is purely tourism we couldn't support two Westin's. Different brands from the same corp absolutely, but the same brand would be competing with each other. To me, CLE and NY are similar--so i shall pre-empt any such attacks on that assumption: there are two Sheratons on the same street---and even same block I believe---the "Sheraton New York" and the "Sheraton Manhattan" are both on 53 st---one at the corner of 7th Ave and the other at the corner of 6th Ave.
March 8, 201213 yr Aren't there two Intercontinental properties on/around the Cleveland Clinic campus?
March 9, 201213 yr With all the hotels and rumors of hotels in the market, does anyone know the room count for hotel rooms we're at right now or will be in the near future? I know larger conventions look at that when deciding to come to a city or not. Most of the new properties are pretty tiny, fewer than 200 units, so I impact on total rooms won't be all that big. Actually sounds like the Westin renovation of the old Bond Court property will add almost as many rooms as two or three boutiques.
March 9, 201213 yr Seen as you are a renowned world traveler ;) can you point us to another similar sized city with two hotels of the same brand in their Downtown. I just feel that outside of a city that is purely tourism we couldn't support two Westin's. Different brands from the same corp absolutely, but the same brand would be competing with each other. Until one was recently rebranded as a Sheraton, Downtown Columbus had two Hyatts for a couple decades (Capitol Square and Convention Center).
March 9, 201213 yr With all the hotels and rumors of hotels in the market, does anyone know the room count for hotel rooms we're at right now or will be in the near future? I know larger conventions look at that when deciding to come to a city or not. Good question. I tried to put this together, but have some blanks---anyone know the numbers?--please provide, then we can see our current and future totals. I included Midtown & University Circle as well. CURRENT Cleveland Marriott Downtown at Key Center – 400 rooms Rrenaissance Cleveland Hotel- 441 rooms + 50 suites DoubleTree by Hilton Cleveland Downtown – Lakeside - ?? Embassy Suites Hotel Cleveland – Downtown – 261 suites Hampton Inn - Cleveland Downtown – 194 rooms Hilton Garden Inn Cleveland Downtown -- ?? Holiday Inn Express Hotel & Suites Cleveland – Downtown-141 rooms + 25 suites [is this hotel still open?] Hyatt Regency Cleveland at The Arcade – 293 rooms Radisson Hotel Cleveland-Gateway - 142 rooms Wyndham Cleveland at Playhouse Square - 205 rooms, including 32 suites Residence Inn by Marriott - Cleveland Downtown - 175 suites Comfort Inn – Downtown - ?? Tudor Arms (Doubletree) – 154 rooms Glidden House – 60 rooms Cleveland Clinic Guest House (Intercontinental) (96th & Euclid) – 231 rooms Intercontinental Suites (88th & Euclid) - 162 suites Intercontinental Hotel (98th & Carnegie) 299 rooms + 23 suites FUTURE Westin Cleveland Convention Center Hotel - ?? Aloft - ?? Kimpton - ?? Potential Le Meridien? - ?? Marriott Courtyard—University Circle - ??
March 9, 201213 yr With all the hotels and rumors of hotels in the market, does anyone know the room count for hotel rooms we're at right now or will be in the near future? I know larger conventions look at that when deciding to come to a city or not. Good question. I tried to put this together, but have some blanks---anyone know the numbers?--please provide, then we can see our current and future totals. I included Midtown & University Circle as well. CURRENT Cleveland Marriott Downtown at Key Center – 400 rooms Rrenaissance Cleveland Hotel- 441 rooms + 50 suites DoubleTree by Hilton Cleveland Downtown – Lakeside - ?? Embassy Suites Hotel Cleveland – Downtown – 261 suites Hampton Inn - Cleveland Downtown – 194 rooms Hilton Garden Inn Cleveland Downtown -- ?? Holiday Inn Express Hotel & Suites Cleveland – Downtown-141 rooms + 25 suites [is this hotel still open?] Hyatt Regency Cleveland at The Arcade – 293 rooms Radisson Hotel Cleveland-Gateway - 142 rooms Wyndham Cleveland at Playhouse Square - 205 rooms, including 32 suites Residence Inn by Marriott - Cleveland Downtown - 175 suites Comfort Inn – Downtown - ?? Tudor Arms (Doubletree) – 154 rooms Glidden House – 60 rooms Cleveland Clinic Guest House (Intercontinental) (96th & Euclid) – 231 rooms Intercontinental Suites (88th & Euclid) - 162 suites Intercontinental Hotel (98th & Carnegie) 299 rooms + 23 suites FUTURE Westin Cleveland Convention Center Hotel - ?? Aloft - ?? Kimpton - ?? Potential Le Meridien? - ?? Marriott Courtyard—University Circle - ?? Westin Cleveland Convention Center Hotel - 481 Rooms Aloft - 150 Rooms Kimpton - 161 Rooms Marriott Courtyard—University Circle - 153 Rooms I'm not sure about the Le Meridian hotel all I know is from watching the News Channel 5 report that someone bought all 5 properties that line up next to the Huntington Bank Building on Euclid for the Le Meridian to go into so it should be pretty large Story: http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/cleveland_metro/Boutique-hotels-coming-to-Cleveland
March 9, 201213 yr Nice list Pugu!!! Murray Hill would be proud :clap: Doubletree Downtown (Lakeside) - 379 (includes 5 suites) Hilton Garden Inn - 240 (includes 8 suites) Comfort Inn - 130 We can also add: Ritz Carlton - 205 University Hotel & Suites (if you want to call it a hotel) - 161 Cleveland Clinic Guesthouse - 231 Comes out to 5547 in the downtown/midtown/UC corridor. Anyone know if the Mather Mansion at CSU is still becoming a hotel?
March 9, 201213 yr Cause I am officially on Spring Break and am bored, I also consulted expedia.com and have come up with a number around 2,000 (1,993) rooms within 3.5 miles of the airport if you want to include those as well. Not all of them are in Cleveland proper, but I think the airport area should be included in any Cleveland hotel room number.
March 9, 201213 yr Thanks for filling in the blanks. Thanks for catching I missed the Ritz! Okay, Here's the full list with totals at the bottom: CURRENT Cleveland Marriott Downtown at Key Center – 400 rooms Renaissance Cleveland Hotel- 441 rooms + 50 suites Ritz Carlton – 205 rooms DoubleTree by Hilton Cleveland Downtown – Lakeside – 379 including 5 suites Embassy Suites Hotel Cleveland – Downtown – 261 suites Hampton Inn - Cleveland Downtown – 194 rooms Hilton Garden Inn Cleveland Downtown – 240 including 8 suites Holiday Inn Express Hotel & Suites Cleveland – Downtown-141 rooms + 25 suites Hyatt Regency Cleveland at The Arcade – 293 rooms Radisson Hotel Cleveland-Gateway - 142 rooms Wyndham Cleveland at Playhouse Square - 205 rooms, including 32 suites Residence Inn by Marriott - Cleveland Downtown - 175 suites Comfort Inn – Downtown – 130 rooms University Hotel & Suites (36th & Euclid) – 161 rooms Tudor Arms (Doubletree) – 154 rooms Glidden House – 60 rooms Cleveland Clinic Guest House (Intercontinental) (96th & Euclid) – 231 rooms Intercontinental Suites (88th & Euclid) - 162 suites Intercontinental Hotel (98th & Carnegie) 299 rooms + 23 suites Existing Subtotal: (counting “suites” as rooms): 4371 FUTURE Westin Cleveland Convention Center Hotel - 481 Rooms Aloft - 150 Rooms Kimpton - 161 Rooms Potential Le Meridien? – (Euclid between 9th and 12th) - ?? Marriott Courtyard—University Circle - 153 Rooms Future Subtotal: 945 + Potential Le Meridien TOTAL (Current + Future): 5316 Rooms* *not counting potential Le Meridien
March 9, 201213 yr ^For convention competition purposes, how does our 5300 rooms Downtown (and UC) compare with, say, Minneapolis, Miami, Denver?
March 9, 201213 yr I think convention or other event planners look at the number of rooms in a 30 mile or so radius. So we're talking Mentor to Lorain, Downtown Cleveland to downtown Akron. I think before we were in the 25k ballpark.
March 9, 201213 yr ^The Westin is not really a net gain (or at least, not much of one) b/c it's taking over the closed Crowne Plaza building.
March 9, 201213 yr I think convention or other event planners look at the number of rooms in a 30 mile or so radius. So we're talking Mentor to Lorain, Downtown Cleveland to downtown Akron. I think before we were in the 25k ballpark. I think a downtown to downtown comparison between CLE and other cities is a fair request. If 20,000 out of 25,000 rooms are not downtown, can Downtown CLE support 20,000 extra parking spots less the offset from shuttle bus operations? If I were planning a convention in a city and it was in the Downtown of that city (not, e.g., the IX Center), I would compare how many rooms were DOWNTOWN--say within walking distance or an easy cab ride. If I were to stretch it all, I'd include the hotels at W. 150 cause they're on the rapid, but certainly not Beachwood or Lorain.
March 9, 201213 yr ^The Westin is not really a net gain (or at least, not much of one) b/c it's taking over the closed Crowne Plaza building. true. I never showed a percentage gain, just current numbers (though I did include the Holiday Inn Express though some say is no longer taking reservations as it will be rebranded) and known future numbers. The Crowne Plaza numbers were never included in the "Current" list cause its already closed.
March 9, 201213 yr Downtown Indianapolis (a metro area half as big as NEO but a convention powerhouse) has 7100+ rooms, including a new 1000 room 30+ story JW Marriott built in the last year or two... Convention website says 4700 rooms are connected via skywalk.. Say what you will about skywalks - but I'm guessing conventioneers love 'em... -and downtown Indy is lively, because of/in spite of depending on your view.
March 9, 201213 yr ^please God i hope this thread does not turn into one of those lets compare Cleveland to Indy discussions for 3 pages. They do that about every three months in one or more of the Cincy threads and it gets old fast. Standard Cincy poster comments....Indy nice but often sterile downtown that is very active because of conventions...go 2 miles out and the rest of the city is really bland and hardly urban.
March 9, 201213 yr Since your starting a conversation that has been had numerous times in the past (and the numbers are buried in various posts), Downtown Cleveland is pretty underserved as far as convention towns go (even compared to Cincinnati and Columbus). Its not so bad metro wide, but still pretty low compared to bigger convention regions. I think other than these few smaller ones, I think it will be a matter of waitng and seeing how business is with the MM and Convention Center, before a true converntions sized hotel considers coming in (into the old County site)
March 9, 201213 yr ^The Westin is not really a net gain (or at least, not much of one) b/c it's taking over the closed Crowne Plaza building. Not true: per article in Crains last year, the current Crowne Plaza only operates about 100 rooms; the Westin will have close to 480; net gain of about 380, so it's adding more rooms than Aloft and Kimpton combined.
March 9, 201213 yr Well the Crown Plaza closed most of its rooms (down to under 100) from the original amount, prior to closing the hotel. So they had about the same amount of rooms as the new Westin will have. So any previous numbers reported included the full amount. Besides its the same building, its not like they are carving each Crowne Plaza room into 5 Westin rooms.
March 9, 201213 yr ^Not sure I follow. Aren't most of the rooms closed because of the building condition? Why would we count rooms as part of the current inventory if they're not available to guests? EDIT: I mean, I understand that the building envelope isn't being expanded, but isn't this effectively a conversion from unused space to hotel rooms?
March 9, 201213 yr ^Not sure I follow. Aren't most of the rooms closed because of the building condition? Why would we count rooms as part of the current inventory if they're not available to guests? EDIT: I mean, I understand that the building envelope isn't being expanded, but isn't this effectively a conversion from unused space to hotel rooms? No not really, its a 400+ hotel room property, that had many of the rooms closed for a few months prior to the whole property closing for renovation. By that logic why would you count even the 100 rooms if the whole hotel is currently closed? And on top of that you really need to find out the status of the HI Express if that is currently/going to be closed for a rebranding, and the some of the Renaissance, since those rooms are supposedly gradually being renovated ... then those rooms shouldn't be counted either..? As opposed to starting this number thing form scratch each time, the numbers are already there per National Convention and Gay games posts. I cant imagine the rooms that were closed for a few months to wind down business for a renovation producing roughly the same number of rooms would be relevent to a before and after number (in fact would likely artificially skew them wouldn't it?)
March 9, 201213 yr ^Ah, i get the disconnect, sorry. From http://dev.crainscleveland.com/article/20110509/FREE/305099966, which is from last May: "A myriad of mechanical problems caused by years of neglect [sic] has left the current operator with only about 100 usable rooms in the 470-room hotel." I interpreted that to mean that the Crowne Plaza had effectively become a 100 room hotel, even before a sale to Sage/Westin entered the picture. I.e., that the closure wasn't just for a few months in anticipation of imminent redevelopment. Is this not the case?
March 9, 201213 yr ^OK, that makes sense. I hadn't realized all 470 rooms were still operating so recently. From the reports, I thought it had been a much longer term issue.
March 9, 201213 yr Yes it was publicly announced in March 2011 that a sale and renovation were pending. At that time all the rooms were operating but the property was in poor condition and underutilized.
March 9, 201213 yr Plugging in the address for the Holiday Inn Express (629 Euclid Ave, Cleveland) + "hotel" into Google results in a website for Candlewood Suites...
March 9, 201213 yr ^really? I'm still getting Holiday Inn when I search it. I was thinking about it and with the Board of Education building being about 400 feet from the new Westin, and next to the convention center, is it possible for a W or St. Regis or other higher end Starwood go in there to compliment the Westin?
March 9, 201213 yr ^The Westin is not really a net gain (or at least, not much of one) b/c it's taking over the closed Crowne Plaza building. true. I never showed a percentage gain, just current numbers (though I did include the Holiday Inn Express though some say is no longer taking reservations as it will be rebranded) and known future numbers. The Crowne Plaza numbers were never included in the "Current" list cause its already closed. Even so, I'm very excited about the Westin brand coming to Cleveland... I think the renderings of the redesign of the building, esp the fact it'll have large windows, is promising... With Westin, Kimpton, Aloft and (perhaps) Le Meridian ... to go along with the hold on the Ritz, Marriott (several properties) and Hyatt, downtown is charging into the high-end market.
March 9, 201213 yr ^really? I'm still getting Holiday Inn when I search it. I was thinking about it and with the Board of Education building being about 400 feet from the new Westin, and next to the convention center, is it possible for a W or St. Regis or other higher end Starwood go in there to compliment the Westin? Not trying to be snarky, but: https://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=hotel+629+euclid+ave+cleveland 4th result down for me: Holiday Inn Express Hotel & Suites Cleveland www.candlewoodsuites.com/redirect?path... 16 Google reviews - Write a review - $118▼ 629 Euclid Avenue Cleveland, OH 44114 (216) 443-1000 Clicking the link leads you to the Candlewood Suites - Cleveland/North Olmsted :wtf:
March 10, 201213 yr Not trying to be snarky, but: https://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=hotel+629+euclid+ave+cleveland 4th result down for me: Holiday Inn Express Hotel & Suites Cleveland www.candlewoodsuites.com/redirect?path... 16 Google reviews - Write a review - $118▼ 629 Euclid Avenue Cleveland, OH 44114 (216) 443-1000 Clicking the link leads you to the Candlewood Suites - Cleveland/North Olmsted :wtf: Hehe, you said snarky. It does redirect to Candlewood Suites, you're right... but it does say it's North Olmsted too.... I agree with your :wtf: sentiments.
March 15, 201213 yr I work in the same building complex as Holiday Inn Express and the rumor I heard yesterday was that this is the last weekend for the hotel. Supposedly Holiday Inn is leaving and they couldn't find another hotel operator - yet. Just a rumor, but I found it interesting since I had heard other rumors about Holiday Inn Express just a few weeks prior on this forum.
March 15, 201213 yr Candlewood is a part of the IHG group that also includes Holiday Inn, so it might just be a simple URL error. I do think that in order for this property to become a part of the Candlewood brand, some reconstruction would be needed since Candlewood is an extended stay hotel with kitchens, etc. That said, this hotel is no longer bookable online, so something is going on for sure... Holiday Inn is on a big push right now to weed out substandard properties and really improve their quality and consistency across all brands. It's pretty clear that this location is dated and needs some investment compared to other Holiday Inn Express locations. Perhaps operators may have just chosen to end their franchise agreement to not have to cough up lots of money to keep the flag? This scenario happens all the time in the hote industry... In any case, it's a hotel with great bones and could make a great boutique or chain hotel, so I can't imagine it will sit empty or anything like that?
March 15, 201213 yr Holiday Inn Express isn't going anywhere. Upgrades and improvements in anticipation of the exciting new developments taking place in Downtown.
March 17, 201213 yr ^The Westin is not really a net gain (or at least, not much of one) b/c it's taking over the closed Crowne Plaza building. true. I never showed a percentage gain, just current numbers (though I did include the Holiday Inn Express though some say is no longer taking reservations as it will be rebranded) and known future numbers. The Crowne Plaza numbers were never included in the "Current" list cause its already closed. Even so, I'm very excited about the Westin brand coming to Cleveland... I think the renderings of the redesign of the building, esp the fact it'll have large windows, is promising... With Westin, Kimpton, Aloft and (perhaps) Le Meridian ... to go along with the hold on the Ritz, Marriott (several properties) and Hyatt, downtown is charging into the high-end market. High End? The Westin, Kimpton are mid range brands, except for the Westin Brands that are apart of the Luxury collection and most of those are in Europe. Keep in mind this is a convention center hotel and most properties like that are convention oriented mid range hotels. The Westin and Kimpton will compete with the existing Marriott brands, the Hyatt, Doubletree and Wyndham. The Aloft is budget brand, it competes with the Hampton, Holiday Inn and Hilton Garden Inn. This is a very watered down version of the W, for people that want a faux W experience yet don't have the money! The Le Meridien is the only High End brand that will compete with the Ritz and I-C properties.
March 17, 201213 yr Aloft - a budget hotel? Westin and Kimpton - mid range hotels? MyTwoSense, you must have a pretty fantastic life because the average consumer would consider a Motel 6 budget and perhaps a Radisson mid-tier. As a business and pleasure traveler, Aloft, Westin and Kimpton would all be great choices for me. I like Ritz-Carltons and Four Seasons as much as the next guy, but seriously....
March 17, 201213 yr removed for brevity Well we know for a fact that it isn't a Westin because we also know for a fact that we're getting a Westin through the conversion of the Crowne Plaza. So this is most likely a LM. That's not necessarily true we could have two of the same branded hotels. Its not unheard of. Seen as you are a renowned world traveler ;) can you point us to another similar sized city with two hotels of the same brand in their Downtown. I just feel that outside of a city that is purely tourism we couldn't support two Westin's. Different brands from the same corp absolutely, but the same brand would be competing with each other. some have already been mentioned, but I'll throw in New Orleans. Downtown NoLa (CBD/FQ/WHD) has plenty of two hotels. Two W's; Two Hiltons; Two Omni hotels; 3 Hampton Inn;3 Hilton Garden Inn; two Hyatt's; 2 Renaissance; two Marriott's, a ton of Holiday Inns. Should I go on? Cleveland is starved for above medium brand properties. We still need one of the following properties to make a dent and have planner actually look at us as a destination AND have leisure travelers choose Cleveland as a destination for a vacation. Since there are many loyalty based travelers. Cool stylish properties Loews, Sofitel, W, Le Meridien (speculated) Gansevort Autograph Collection (Marriott's brand to compete with the W & Le Meridien [starwood] & Andaz [Hyatt] brands) * Eventi [Kimptons brand to compete with the Autograph, Andaz & W/Le Meridien brands) * High End Luxury St. Regis Waldorf Conrad Park Hyatt JW Marriott Four Seasons Mid Range Standard Brands Hilton Sheraton Crowne Plaza * There brands are marketed toward Late 20 to 40 somethings and the LGBT community. The folks that want hip, fun, sytylish properties with common spaces (lobby lounges & restaurants) that provides a chance to mix and mingle. Outside of the Hilton, Crowne Plaza and Sheraton, these do not have to be large hotels. 300-350 rooms would be nice size for each of these properties.
March 17, 201213 yr Aloft - a budget hotel? Westin and Kimpton - mid range hotels? MyTwoSense, you must have a pretty fantastic life because the average consumer would consider a Motel 6 budget and perhaps a Radisson mid-tier. As a business and pleasure traveler, Aloft, Westin and Kimpton would all be great choices for me. I like Ritz-Carltons and Four Seasons as much as the next guy, but seriously.... NO, that is what the brands themselves consider these properties. The Aloft is a very watered down version of the W. Its for people that like W hotels but cannot afford it. It's designated as a select service hotel. Westins can go from mid range to luxury based on location. How old are you? That would also play into what type of properties you like to stay in. I travel alot and I'm a Park Hyatt, W or Le Meridien guy. Every blue moon I'll stay at a R-C or St. Regis, but usually they are too stuff for me. If my family travels to Miami Beach or PR we stay at the Ritz, because of the services and programing they have for kids.
March 22, 201213 yr Just received an e-mail at work with details from building management (MRN) regarding the Holiday Inn Express. It said that the hotel will be "closed for renovation" starting on Saturday, March 24. It said the hotel will not be operating for approximately 60 days.
March 24, 201213 yr ^So it will just be a prettier newer refurbished Holiday Inn? I can deal with that.
March 24, 201213 yr ^So it will just be a prettier newer refurbished Holiday Inn? I can deal with that. Hopefully they will rebrand it a Crowne Plaza. Wishful thinking.
March 24, 201213 yr ^So it will just be a prettier newer refurbished Holiday Inn? I can deal with that. Hopefully they will rebrand it a Crowne Plaza. Wishful thinking. Literally zero chance of that happening imo. My money is on HI Express or Hotel Indigo if it stays within IHG. Anyone's best guess if it doesn't...
March 24, 201213 yr ^So it will just be a prettier newer refurbished Holiday Inn? I can deal with that. Hopefully they will rebrand it a Crowne Plaza. Wishful thinking. Literally zero chance of that happening imo. My money is on HI Express or Hotel Indigo if it stays within IHG. Anyone's best guess if it doesn't... What we dont need is another low-mid level hotel downtown. Although Crown Plaza is a middle of the broad brand for InterContinental/HI Hotels, it's better than an Hotel indigo. Just wishful thinking.
March 26, 201213 yr ^So it will just be a prettier newer refurbished Holiday Inn? I can deal with that. Hopefully they will rebrand it a Crowne Plaza. Wishful thinking. Literally zero chance of that happening imo. My money is on HI Express or Hotel Indigo if it stays within IHG. Anyone's best guess if it doesn't... What we dont need is another low-mid level hotel downtown. Although Crown Plaza is a middle of the broad brand for InterContinental/HI Hotels, it's better than an Hotel indigo. Just wishful thinking. They have a sign on their doors that are a bit misleading and honestly I can't make heads or tails of it. Basically, it states that they will be closing for 60 days and a new Holiday Inn Express will be reopening completely refurbished and rebranded.
March 27, 201213 yr Does that mean that they're finally going to remove that tacky blue awning?!?! :clap:
March 27, 201213 yr ^So it will just be a prettier newer refurbished Holiday Inn? I can deal with that. Hopefully they will rebrand it a Crowne Plaza. Wishful thinking. Literally zero chance of that happening imo. My money is on HI Express or Hotel Indigo if it stays within IHG. Anyone's best guess if it doesn't... What we dont need is another low-mid level hotel downtown. Although Crown Plaza is a middle of the broad brand for InterContinental/HI Hotels, it's better than an Hotel indigo. Just wishful thinking. They have a sign on their doors that are a bit misleading and honestly I can't make heads or tails of it. Basically, it states that they will be closing for 60 days and a new Holiday Inn Express will be reopening completely refurbished and rebranded. Yup, makes complete sense. Basically just bringing the property into their new standards. They should replace signage to have the new logo as well. http://www.hiexpress.com/hotels/us/en/global/exp/exp_home
March 27, 201213 yr Today's Crain's hard copy edition (don't see it online) has a story about two potential hotel properties noted on UO --- the potential Le Meridien at 1001 Euclid (Le Meridien "has not committed to a Cleveland project" per spokesman) - which would be a $55MM/200 room hotel, once the owners get financing. Also noted is the $50MM/161-room Kimpton-managed Schofield Building hotel. Though Kimpton is quoted as saying downtown is ready for such a boutique hotel, the developers are said to still be continuing to pursue financing and hope to "have news soon" about "beginning construction" on the hotel. That answers why no recent activity, I guess...
March 27, 201213 yr I want to update the sign that HI Express has posted: "The Holiday Inn Express will be closing for 60 days and will be reopening as a completely refurbished and rebranded Holiday Inn Express" Based on that I would not expect a different flag, but their updated HI Express format. If they don't get rid of the blue awning, I will personally do it for them, under the cover of darkness of course.
April 7, 201213 yr My brother and I put this together really quickly, we're currently working on a 7-county version. Hope to be able to add a Hard Rock Northfield Park as per http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/04/northfield_park_owner_hard_roc.html one day!
April 7, 201213 yr Thanks. Does that include the two hotels in Lakewood/Gold Coast? The Days Inn and the Travelodge? I see you have at least one marked. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
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