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Cleveland Innerbelt takings: What we stand to lose (photo essay)

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That's good news. It means that ODOT has to go through a process to find/choose alternatives that mitigate impacts to these structures. And if an alternative exists that lets ODOT avoid negatively impacting those structures, then they have to give a pretty strong reason why they didn't select that alternative.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Ohio Boxboard Co. (ca. 1919), 1400 East 30th St. An example of early 20th-century industrial design and one of the few remaining buildings designed by Christian, Schwarzenberg and Gaede, an architectural firm that practiced in Cleveland from 1913 to 1972. Firm became Christian & Klopper, Inc. in 1972 and is still in business today.

  • 2 years later...

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/11/the_ohio_department_of_transpo.html

 

I was hoping someone could post or take pictures of the buildings in jeopardy here.  As said in the article...

*81-year-old trapezoidal-shaped Marathon gas station.

*Cleveland Cold Storage Building on West 14th St, built in 1927.

*Broadway Mills Building, built in 1894.  ODOT plans to save brickwork and the large medallions from the building and use them in nearby retaining walls.

*Non descript commercial structures

I believe someone posted photos several years ago...

 

I believe ZDM's thread on "what buildings will be demolished..." has been absorbed here into this thread.

I happen to have some pics (sorry, I did not resize these) to contribute to this and a website that talks about this...

 

http://www.gcbl.org/planning/innerbelt/clevelands-architecture-in-path-of-innerbelt

 

These first 3 are of the Broadway Mills building near E.9th & Carnegie (IMHO this is gonna be the biggest loss)

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This is the trapezoidal gas station next to the B'Way Mills (this is way cool...cannot find these anywhere)

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This is an example of what they're probably calling "nondescript" (to me it is absolutely NOT nondescript...I do not know if this exact bldg will be lost, but it is in the general vicinity of B'Way Mills)

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This is the 1400 E.30th Building ("Tastebuds" Bldg) in the Superior Warehouse District. A terrible loss it will be. This is a picture of only half of it.

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  • 9 years later...

Ohio is just pathetic, nothing can be done to fix this ill-state. Deadman’s curve proves how poor and declining the road engineering is in Ohio.

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Um, first of all, that’s not Dead Man’s Curve...

“To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”

1 hour ago, OHIO.SUCKS said:

Ohio is just pathetic, nothing can be done to fix this ill-state. Deadman’s curve proves how poor and declining the road engineering is in Ohio.

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Hmm, yes @OHIO.SUCKS, nice unbiased post.

If you're interested in why sharp curves like this (which isn't Deadman's curve) exist, you have to look at the history of the Interstate Highway System. Older portions, such as this, were designed with much tighter radii because speeds and traffic levels were expected to be much lower than the realities of current day.

In addition, property acquisition comes into play, like with the ACTUAL deadman's curve. They designed around what they could work with and the property they had acquired. And it wasn't an issue because it was anticipated during design that cars wouldn't need to cut their speed in half because they wouldn't be going that fast in the first place. Then things changed.

 

But I like your Microsoft Paint markups.

  • 3 months later...

The real Dead Man's Curve:

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If they ever do a correct fix, it seems like they will need to acquire some of the Burke property.

 

 

2 hours ago, skiwest said:

The real Dead Man's Curve:

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If they ever do a correct fix, it seems like they will need to acquire some of the Burke property.

 

 


They will have to yes, and the city isn’t thrilled from what I hear.

 

Construction won’t start for 5+ years though so there is time to sort things out.

 

http://www.dot.state.oh.us/projects/ClevelandUrbanCoreProjects/Innerbelt/Documents/2015-12-03 INNERBELT CORRIDOR MAP.pdf

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