I'm new to Cleveland and looking at a condo in Battery Park. Would like to hear thoughts on the neighborhood regarding safety, entertainment, overall strengths and weaknesses.

Thanks!

 

 

there is a long battery park thread.  People on this board have posted there in the past with their thoughts on living there.  Check it out.

there is a long battery park thread.  People on this board have posted there in the past with their thoughts on living there.  Check it out.

 

I was going to post Gordon Square and Battery Park threads for our newest member, BUT, the Search feature - at least for me - is down so its hard to look research those threads quickly.

^ Hello.  I am moving there in just over a week.  WE couldnt be more excited.  Everyone who lives there loves it.  It is a growing neighborhood and we would love to have you in it.  With incentives that the city offers, you get a bargain.  Plenty to do within a bikeride.  PM me if you have specific questions.

I looked at battery park and ended up 1 block over from there.  My wife and I have been in the neighborhood for 2 years now.  We lived in Tremont before that, she live in NYC before that.

 

Strengths.

Movie theater

Cleveland public theater

nice selection of restaurants/bars

Sweet Moses old fashioned soda fountain/ice creamery.....so freaking good.  The gordon square sundae is da bomb.

Fourth of July is a crazy neighborhood block party......you will either love it or choose to be out of town.

 

Still has a lot of the old "ethnics"  Irish/Italians who's families have been in the neighborhood forever..turns out my great grandparents/grandparents generations live in the neighborhood on Herman and Tillman, they all played softball for the Parkview way back in the day

 

Decent transit access, the 26 bus route and the red line which is walkable if you need to (1 mile from my place)

 

Weakness, have to car to a grocery store Giant Eagle on 117th is 3 miles away...there is a Sav a Lot if you need something fairly basic.

Highway access is pretty far unless you are getting on the shoreway going east.

 

Once you get past where Detroit and Lake intersect.  right where the BK is, it starts getting sketchier until you get past West Blvd and/or where the shoreway ends.

 

 

Safety.....

I wouldn't want my wife walking around at night. but we often walk up to detroit to Luxe or Gypsy bean or the movie theater..we also walk to YOLO, stone Mad, Reddstone and the parkview even after dark....Don't do anything stupid, pay attention.  Go back or around if you see something sketchy...just common sense really.  My wife coming here from Manhattan wasn't poisoned by years of Cleveland is scary...

 

There is some graffiti and petty theft/car break ins.  Nothing more than I saw in Tremont.  And if you live in Battery Park or one of the places below you should not have really crappy neighbors like I had in Tremont.

 

 

 

I welcome any/all new neighbors and would not discourage you from Battery park....my personal thumbs down to that particular development was ....too be soooooooo close to a lake view and yet so far away...

 

which is why we ended up here

 

This is the same condo complex I live in (there is another poster on the site who lives in these as well)  These units are 10-12 years old.

$204,900

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/6915-Father-Caruso-Dr-Unit-13_Cleveland_OH_44102_M34974-94620

 

There are 2 rows of townhouses in the complex.  1 along Father Caruso parallel to the RR tracks/shoreway that have full frontal views of the lake, and 1 set along W. 69th st.

 

 

This one is on the same street I live on and fronts the lake and is newer  they also have some less expensive versions along 67th st that are not front on to the lake.

 

$317,500

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/6604-Father-Caruso-Dr_Cleveland_OH_44102_M44292-24319

 

This is over by the high school and has lake views and is by the highway kind of between Detroit Shoreway and Ohio Ciy

$254,000

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/4810-Tillman-Ave_Cleveland_OH_44102_M32490-60741

 

This is more in D/S and will have a lake view but further away from the park.

 

$238,000

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/5413-Herman-Ave-Unit-6_Cleveland_OH_44102_M38467-09213

 

Feel free to PM me with any additional questions

 

 

^ Don't some of the houses in Battery Park have lakeviews, just not many?

essentially all units excluding some flats in the H 3 building should have views of the lake...either from roof patio, front patio or third floor.

 

Every window/every room has a full on lake view.

 

You don't have to go to the roof, or stand in this corner of this room and look out that direction when it is winter so there are no leaves on the trees.

 

Like I said that was my thing..their thing could be brand new or special financing, or tax abatement.....The lake view and a 2 car attached garage were what sold me on where I ended up in the neighborhood. 

 

I don't have anything bad to say about battery park.....but go look at one of those units and then go to any or all of the first 3 on my list....one is a lake view the other is I can maybe see the lake if I work at it.  Heck just look at the pictures attached to the listings, they do not do the lake justice....and like I said that is from every room in your place that you can see a north facing window.

 

Even the fourth one will be a better view of the lake from the rooftop because those sit on a bluff and are 3 stories when everything else is 2.

 

Battery park will give you a better lake view than 99% of housing options in Cuyahoga county especially on a $/sq ft basis....but it is not nearly what you would get with the first 3 alternatives I presented.

^ The current cluster of townhomes being built is the same thing.  You can see the lake from any room/window as it faces the lake.  I was just speaking for some of the other units further in the back.  There are three units left for purchase in this cluster...Lake/Downtown views are great.

you can stand on the sidewalk & see the lake in most of Battery Park, so yes, most of the units out there have lake views.

I live a block away...I went there and looked at those townhouses.

 

The "lake view" from one is not like the other...it is really simple.

 

Being separated from the edge of the bluff by only the tracks and the road.....where the tree line has been cleared.

 

or having 1-2-15 townhouses/powerhouse/warhouse industrial building on the edge and 20-300 feet between you and the road.  where the trees have not been cleared.

 

One of these things is not like the other.....but you and the OP don't have to take my word for it....those places are for sale, go look for yourself.

 

 

Two things that most of battery park will have that the first alternate option does not (but all the others do) is a view of downtown.  And being further away from the tracks (optimal lake view) also cuts down on the train noise.

 

Being able to see the lake by going to the 1 special place in my 2200 sq foot townhouse != lake view, no matter how the Realtor(s) want to spin it.

 

so you would have us believe

 

go outside to that corner and look in that direction you can see the lake or go up to the third floor deck

 

is equal to

 

40 feet from back from the north wall  inside my townhouse on the first floor looking through the kitchen dining room and living room and I can see the lake.. and it only gets better each floor you go up

 

 

 

 

Bottom line for the person who started the thread:

 

Ton of momentum in the area.  I would take a serious look as it is a safe, fun place with modern living options.

Yes and I chose this neighborhood.

 

I am not suggesting ruling Battery Park out....just there many other options in this neighborhood, do consider them.

 

Including renting for a year before buying anything and looking at the many fine re-habbed (or re-habbable) century homes.

 

Drive down Franklin from 25th to 85th......absolutely gorgeous restored Victorians and row houses, as well as some new construction.

 

This was why I chose this neighborhood and this particular location within the neighborhood.  I was not going to settle for a "work for it lake sighting" over a "lake view".

 

 

 

 

I hope this person checked back...

yeah me too. its so great to see and hear about this neighborood growing so popular.