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The Qualls: charterite, Cranley democrat thing is completely false.

 

Qualls has been a democrat as long as Cranley has been alive. She is also a charterite, but they are less relevant than ever so that's hardly something to tout.

 

Ballots do not have parties, and the democrats will not be endorsing. Triantifilou has already said the GOP will not be endorsing, and COAST is endorsing Berns only so Cranley can tell democrats he's not endorsed by COAST.

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I would say COAST is also backing Berns because they want to pretend they are libertarian and not just selfish.

GOP(Triantiflou I believe) has said publicly they are backing Berns

 

I doubt that. If a party wants to "back" a candidate, they endorse the candidate.

 

Triantiflou said they are supporting candidates that have the "taxpayers interests at heart". Berns is their guy for the moment until he drops out then it will be cranley(although maybe not publicly)

 

Cranley is headlining GOP fundraisers in Indian hill for a reason

The Republican Party is not going to ever endorse a Democrat.  Unless he jumps ship, they won’t be endorsing him.  The city’s Republicans may vote for him over Qualls, but he won’t get an official endorsement.  I suspect they didn’t endorse Berns because they didn’t want to get destroyed in the primary.  Even with an official endorsement he wouldn’t touch Cranley or Qualls, but I suspect he may have a higher number than usual this year since there’s no real Republican candidate. 

I noticed Cranley anti-streetcar ads start popping up on my website today: http://zfein.com/photography.html

 

I just use Google Ads and it usually automatically places contextual ads that are Cincinnati or photography based in one way or another.  I think I have managed to block it now, though.  Just thought anyone with a Cincy website and Google Ads might want the heads up! I like to keep political discourse where it belongs, which is not on my site.

^me too. They're following my browsing history. Google has gotten good at this internet advertising thing.

Amazing that Cranley's treasurer lives on Pleasant St., between the two streetcar tracks.

I noticed Cranley anti-streetcar ads start popping up on my website today: http://zfein.com/photography.html

 

I just use Google Ads and it usually automatically places contextual ads that are Cincinnati or photography based in one way or another.  I think I have managed to block it now, though.  Just thought anyone with a Cincy website and Google Ads might want the heads up! I like to keep political discourse where it belongs, which is not on my site.

 

Fortunately for Qualls, the vast majority of people that would not vote for her because she supports the streetcar can't vote in the mayoral election anyway, because they live outside the city limits. 

Have it on good authority that the GOP is going "All out" in their support for John Cranley and Christopher Smitherman despite what they have said publicly. 

 

Then we have this gem of a quote by GOP leader Alex Triantiflou:

 

The two biggest issues: privatizing parking and building a streetcar. Qualls supports both; Cranley has built his campaign around opposing them.

 

“I do think John Cranley will be very attractive to African-American voters because they share his views on those issues,” Republican leader Triantafilou said.

 

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20130731/NEWS0106/307310060/African-American-voters-crucial-race-mayor

 

Yes Alex.  Every African American inside city limits is anti-streetcar and Anti-Parking

Berns is officially out. 

 

 

Berns is officially out. 

NOOOOO!!!

Well I don't know who I'm voting for now, but that's a respectable reason to drop out.  Now we'll see if Queen Noble can sleep at night knowing she's the one solely costing the city $400,000 so she can collect her 152 votes. 

 

This does highlight how stupid the mayoral primary setup is, though.

Queen Noble:

 

Noble, who’s known for being eccentric and running for public office multiple times but never being elected, began the chain of the events with an explicit email.

 

Fuck you man. The two motherfuckers burn,” Noble wrote in a July 30 email to mayoral debate organizers. “Queen Noble is being robbed of the elections thanks to motherfucker such as yourself seeing the future and shit. The fuck you mean debate after the election robbing primary. It's a rip off for the incumbents in it self (sic).

Dirty motherfuckers are backed by dirty motherfuckers cheating the public out the best candidates so fuck you and the primary election. Queen Noble will debate now asshole.

 

http://www.citybeat.com/cincinnati/blog-4917-longshot_mayoral_candidates_angry_over_debate_schedule.html

“It’s a big deal when somebody withdraws after the ballots are printed,” [bOE Director Amy Searcey] said. “It’s stuff people would fnd boring, but it creates a lot of work. We have to pay people to do all this.”

 

Another Libertarian costing the taxpayers more money. Shocker!

Cranley has raised $472k.  Plans on getting to $1mil

 

Some donors:

 

-Ex mayor Dwight Tillery

-Phillips Edison Real Estate President David Birdsall

-Joyce Farmer, wife of chairman of CINTAS

-Buddy LaRosa from LaRosas

-Neil Bortz of Towne Properties

-Otto Budig, Budco Group

-Jeff Wyler of Jeff Wyler Dealerships

-Tom Williams, Port Authority Board Member

-John Pepper, former CEO of P&G

-Tom Blackburn, Bengals VP

-Dick Farmer, Chairman of CINTAS

-George Vincent, Dinsmore and Shohl firm

-Jeff Ruby

-Prus Construction

-Bob Bedinghaus(Qualls can definitely attack him here if he brings up the stadium deal against her)

 

 

Cranley has 3 primary staffers including former councilwoman Laketa Cole

 

Qualls has raised $348K total

^Have any of the above people also donated to Qualls?

“All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.”
-Friedrich Nietzsche

Maybe I didn't make this clear, but my point was that local issues don't effect local races at all, ever.

 

Really? You really believe that?  Well, OK, then.

::drops mic, walks off::

 

If you can find a purely local issue that was the primary cause of an local individual candidate's success since Portune's Commission win v. Bedinghaus around the issue of the Bengals lease I'd be happy to revise my opinion.

 

Amazing that Cranley's treasurer lives on Pleasant St., between the two streetcar tracks.

 

It's a perfect example of how Cranley has misjudged the Streetcar issue from the beginning and simply won't admit he's wrong out of pride.  Instead, he's doubled down, insisting that being anti-Streetcar is a political winner when in fact is has verifiably lost, TWICE.

 

Cranley has raised $472k.  Plans on getting to $1mil

 

Qualls has raised $348K total

 

My quick internet search was unable to reveal any fundraising totals from 2005 but this seems to be playing out similarly now, with Qualls as Mallory and Cranley as Pepper.  What would really be interesting is to see the fundraising totals for 2009; I bet Wenstrup outraised Mallory still even though everyone knew he had a snowball's chance.

In 2009, Mallory raised $248,648.82 and Wenstrup raised $83,414.18, according to the report available on the City's website.

>in fact is has verifiably lost, TWICE.

 

Cranely makes way too many enemies and picks the wrong sides of issues OVER AND OVER again. 

^ Qualls is a Democrat. No Republican thinks she isn't. Whether Charter will endorse her for mayor remains to be seen.

 

There's no "remains to be seen" about it.  You ever get mailings from her?  They have Charter Committee all over them. 

^I haven't seen anything Charter on her current campaign mailings

Cranley has raised $472k.  Plans on getting to $1mil

 

Some donors:

 

-Ex mayor Dwight Tillery

-Phillips Edison Real Estate President David Birdsall

-Joyce Farmer, wife of chairman of CINTAS

-Buddy LaRosa from LaRosas

-Neil Bortz of Towne Properties

-Otto Budig, Budco Group

-Jeff Wyler of Jeff Wyler Dealerships

-Tom Williams, Port Authority Board Member

-John Pepper, former CEO of P&G

-Tom Blackburn, Bengals VP

-Dick Farmer, Chairman of CINTAS

-George Vincent, Dinsmore and Shohl firm

-Jeff Ruby

-Prus Construction

-Bob Bedinghaus(Qualls can definitely attack him here if he brings up the stadium deal against her)

 

 

Cranley has 3 primary staffers including former councilwoman Laketa Cole

 

Qualls has raised $348K total

 

Didn't Prus Construction get the streetcar bid under Messer?  Seems odd that they would support anyone who is going to threaten taking away business from them.

^I haven't seen anything Charter on her current campaign mailings

 

I'll have to look back, but I'm pretty sure that the address they come from is listed as the Charter Committee.  Maybe she has changed that. 

Both Prus and Messer donated to Cranley campaign. I guess they don't care if they lose millions of dollars in construction work on the streetcar!

“All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.”
-Friedrich Nietzsche

They have a contract. They probably want to get the money without doing the work. Short-sighted, since without an initial line there won't be extensions.

Does anyone know which prominent cincinnatians or companies donated to qualls?

^look at the filings linked to upthread

A lot of Joslin people donated to Cranky, too.

^I haven't seen anything Charter on her current campaign mailings

 

Here is the return address on the latest fundraiser invite I got (received three days ago, I think):

 

Roxanne Qualls for Mayor

Charter Committee of Greater Cincinnati

2 Garfield Place, Suite 300C (45202)

 

I'd have to look, but I think that's also the mailing address that Yvette's campaign materials come from. 

ok, dug thru the recycling box

The return address does say Charter Committee

Content also says it is issued & pad for by "Citizens for Qualls" & lists that address as the same as the Charter Committee.

and union bugs everywhere

beats me

Based on that, I cannot imagine the Charter committee won't endorse her. 

Based on that, I cannot imagine the Charter committee won't endorse her.

 

Based on what, the fact her campaign manager still subleases office space from the Charter Committee? The primary is September 10; what are they waiting for?

They aren't going to endorse. If they do, Cranley will say: "I'm the democrat she's the charterite" which is even what some people have posted on here.

 

Also, if they did endorse her he will push for dem party to endorse saying "see she's the charterite endorse me". It will lead to a mess.

 

 

They aren't going to endorse. If they do, Cranley will say: "I'm the democrat she's the charterite" which is even what some people have posted on here.

 

Also, if they did endorse her he will push for dem party to endorse saying "see she's the charterite endorse me". It will lead to a mess.

 

So Charter is purposely not endorsing Qualls for mayor to give her a better chance of winning?

^ Gah, you beat me.

 

I guess we know who to vote for now if we want already-legal vegetables legalized.

^^Yes. I know a discussion has been had in the past which lead to some disagreement about Jim Berns. That being said, from what I've seen (which is quite a lot being at DAAP for 6 years now) the guy is incredibly unprofessional in almost every sense of the word. He is sexist, gladly insults people to get a laugh out of a student body, and just all around conducts himself in a childish manner. Out of all of that though, his blatant sexism is what gets me the most. He discriminates against females regularly and is just an insult to a school which is generally quite progressive.

^^Yes. I know a discussion has been had in the past which lead to some disagreement about Jim Berns. That being said, from what I've seen (which is quite a lot being at DAAP for 6 years now) the guy is incredibly unprofessional in almost every sense of the word. He is sexist, gladly insults people to get a laugh out of a student body, and just all around conducts himself in a childish manner. Out of all of that though, his blatant sexism is what gets me the most. He discriminates against females regularly and is just an insult to a school which is generally quite progressive.

 

I would never expect such behavior from a Libertarian!

^^Yes. I know a discussion has been had in the past which lead to some disagreement about Jim Berns. That being said, from what I've seen (which is quite a lot being at DAAP for 6 years now) the guy is incredibly unprofessional in almost every sense of the word. He is sexist, gladly insults people to get a laugh out of a student body, and just all around conducts himself in a childish manner. Out of all of that though, his blatant sexism is what gets me the most. He discriminates against females regularly and is just an insult to a school which is generally quite progressive.

 

I attended DAAP for 6 years and disagree with most of this post. 

Based on that, I cannot imagine the Charter committee won't endorse her.

 

Based on what, the fact her campaign manager still subleases office space from the Charter Committee? The primary is September 10; what are they waiting for?

I realize you're just being combative, but it's not just a "shared address" or "subleased office space."  Read it again:  The mailings actually say "Charter Committee of Cincinnati."  It's not like that is the name of the building.  If they didn't want to be associated with the Charter Committee, it would say "Qualls For Mayor, Address, etc." 

 

A better question:  Why do you think they need to "endorse" someone for Mayor?  Qualls has been endorsed by the Charter committee since she got back on Council (I think Yvette Simpson also has the dual endorsement).  Is there another Charterite running for Mayor?  If so, why would they need to endorse at all--and certainly why would they feel any need to endorse for the primary?  It's far different from the Democratic party's situation, where both candidates have run as (and been endorsed as) Democrats in the past. 

Qualls for Mayor & the Charter Committee cite the same address.

I realize you're just being combative, but it's not just a "shared address" or "subleased office space."  Read it again:  The mailings actually say "Charter Committee of Cincinnati."  It's not like that is the name of the building.  If they didn't want to be associated with the Charter Committee, it would say "Qualls For Mayor, Address, etc."

 

If Charter continues to allow Qualls to use their office for her campaign or if the campaign mentions the Charter office in some invitations, great. On the Qualls campaign website, it doesn't mention anything about Charter. On Charter's website, it doesn't mention anything about Qualls.

 

A better question:  Why do you think they need to "endorse" someone for Mayor?  Qualls has been endorsed by the Charter committee since she got back on Council (I think Yvette Simpson also has the dual endorsement).  Is there another Charterite running for Mayor?  If so, why would they need to endorse at all--and certainly why would they feel any need to endorse for the primary?  It's far different from the Democratic party's situation, where both candidates have run as (and been endorsed as) Democrats in the past.

 

This makes no sense. If Greg Hartmann was running for Mayor, do you think that the Republican Party wouldn't endorse him because there isn't another Republican running? The Charter Committee doesn't have to do anything. I was just pointing out that since they haven't endorsed anyone for Mayor so far, it stands to reason they won't be endorsing anyone at all. Just because a candidate has been endorsed by a party or group in the past, doesn't mean they automatically will get that endorsement in the future. Maybe Qualls asked not to be endorsed. I have no idea.

I attended DAAP for 6 years and disagree with most of this post. 

 

Not trying to argue but these are things I've seen with my own eyes. Picking out the unattractive girl in the class and singling her out as looking the most in need of love in front of 50 other people to get a laugh is incredibly unprofessional. Telling the fat kid in a class that he looks like the one that would benefit the most out of coupons for free food is unprofessional. Using his access to student email accounts to send out mass emails to further his political agenda is unprofessional. Telling a group of girls that they don't belong in the shop because women don't get proper safety is sexist and unprofessional. Stating that he never goes back on his word, saying he'll for sure give out 'pot' plants, then going back on his word is unprofessional in several ways. The guy is classless and about as far away from an asset to the school as one can get. If these are things that I've seen with my own eyes I can only imagine how often this kind of thing happens when I don't see it.

I realize you're just being combative, but it's not just a "shared address" or "subleased office space."  Read it again:  The mailings actually say "Charter Committee of Cincinnati."  It's not like that is the name of the building.  If they didn't want to be associated with the Charter Committee, it would say "Qualls For Mayor, Address, etc."

 

If Charter continues to allow Qualls to use their office for her campaign or if the campaign mentions the Charter office in some invitations, great. On the Qualls campaign website, it doesn't mention anything about Charter. On Charter's website, it doesn't mention anything about Qualls.

 

A better question:  Why do you think they need to "endorse" someone for Mayor?  Qualls has been endorsed by the Charter committee since she got back on Council (I think Yvette Simpson also has the dual endorsement).  Is there another Charterite running for Mayor?  If so, why would they need to endorse at all--and certainly why would they feel any need to endorse for the primary?  It's far different from the Democratic party's situation, where both candidates have run as (and been endorsed as) Democrats in the past.

 

This makes no sense. If Greg Hartmann was running for Mayor, do you think that the Republican Party wouldn't endorse him because there isn't another Republican running? The Charter Committee doesn't have to do anything. I was just pointing out that since they haven't endorsed anyone for Mayor so far, it stands to reason they won't be endorsing anyone at all. Just because a candidate has been endorsed by a party or group in the past, doesn't mean they automatically will get that endorsement in the future. Maybe Qualls asked not to be endorsed. I have no idea.

 

The Charter committee's website has a biography of Qualls, and Yvette Simpson, under the "City Hall" webpage.  Not sure where you are getting that it "doesn't mention Qualls." 

 

Based on this (very recent) news article, it doesn't sound like they will necessarily be endorsing anyone in the mayoral campaign--or that Qualls has sought for the endorsement (notice it mentions she is running as a Democrat): 

 

http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/local_news/Charter-Committee-delays-endorsement-vote-for-Cincinnati-City-Council

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