August 25, 2024Aug 25 7 hours ago, KJP said: Bedrock starts Downtown Riverfront phase one By Ken Prendergast / August 25, 2024 Construction permit applications were filed this week with the city of Cleveland’s Building Department so contractors can start digging and installing foundations for the first phase of Bedrock’s Downtown Riverfront development. That first phase is the Cleveland Clinic/Cleveland Cavaliers Global Peak Performance Center, touted as one of the world’s largest training facilities. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/08/25/bedrock-starts-downtown-riverfront-phase-one/ Hope this is a successful venture and doesn't turn into another failed project al la Medical Mart.
August 25, 2024Aug 25 3 hours ago, jbee1982 said: Hope this is a successful venture and doesn't turn into another failed project al la Medical Mart. Not sure there is any similarity to a project like Medical Mart, but obviously we are all hoping for success as the first anchor tenant for Bedrock.
August 26, 2024Aug 26 well one major difference is this has guaranteed clients unlike the med mart, but i do wonder about it's regular use beyond the cavs. surely not just a fancy gym? regardless, i don't think the full redevelopment of the tower city riverfront as planned is tied to the success of this one piece, it's probably just the easiest development to build out first. Edited August 26, 2024Aug 26 by mrnyc
August 26, 2024Aug 26 Author 18 hours ago, surfohio said: Looking cool! So any guesses as to how long the Cavs facility will be surrounded by active construction? Probably won't see phase 1B until after Canal Road is rerouted. But that could get started pretty soon since the chain of title transfers for the TIF have already started. Another indication is that the reconstruction of RTA's bridge over the old Canal Road probably will get underway in about 2027 which is when federal funding will be available for the roughly $5.8 million project. That road probably can't close for the RTA construction until after the new road is built. The year 2027 is when the Global Center Global Peak Performance Center is due to open and start generating tax revenue for the TIF to help fund the next steps in the project. I assume rerouted Canal Road and the new Eagle Ramp may be funded by sources other than the TIF. So it may be around 2027 that we see Phase 1B start construction, depending on what's going on in the local and national economy. How's that for a worthless prediction? 🙂 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 26, 2024Aug 26 Cleveland getting some positive national press is never a bad thing. Quote The latest multimillion-dollar, multi-decade plan to reinvent Cleveland’s riverfront does not lack for ambition. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-22/cleveland-s-cuyahoga-riverfront-awaits-its-transformation
August 26, 2024Aug 26 On 8/13/2024 at 12:12 PM, surfohio said: Just had a random thought. With basketball and the NBA soaring in popularity on a global level, are we underestimating the development potential adjacent to the Cavs facility? Adding the internationally renowned Cleveland Clinic to the mix along with the promise for a degree of public access makes this new district a really intriguing prospect. Could this stretch along the river between turn into our smaller, more intimate and pedestrian-friendly version of Chicago’s Magnificent Mile? I like the idea someone brought up after seeing Dan Gilbert was investing in Cosm that one of those could fit in to that area, maybe an area with some retail and a hotel. A friend of mine went to the one in Chicago to watch a soccer game, and it was $85 a ticket, but he said it was an amazing experience.
August 27, 2024Aug 27 I'm sure this could be posted in multiple threads but decided on this one. Watched a great video on the Terminal Tower and its passenger trains and caught this still frame of the old Hotel Cleveland. Very informative video, here is the link if anybody has 30-45 minutes to kill. I'm sure you will learn a couple things from it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIUij5lxqU8
August 27, 2024Aug 27 Author 2 hours ago, GREGinPARMA said: I'm sure this could be posted in multiple threads but decided on this one. Watched a great video on the Terminal Tower and its passenger trains and caught this still frame of the old Hotel Cleveland. Very informative video, here is the link if anybody has 30-45 minutes to kill. I'm sure you will learn a couple things from it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIUij5lxqU8 I had my 15 minutes of fame on that video @GREGinPARMA "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 28, 2024Aug 28 13 hours ago, KJP said: I had my 15 minutes of fame on that video @GREGinPARMA I noticed Ken! Forgot to shout you out. Looking dapper and well-spoken as always!
September 13, 2024Sep 13 CALL TO ACTION: The city of Cleveland's public comment period on the Core to Shore planning, including the Lakefront and the Riverfront (at Tower City), ends tomorrow at 5PM (Friday, September 13). I have learned that there has been very little public input to date - this is a great opportunity for rail advocates to call attention to both the potential multi-modal transit hub as well as the CVSR extension to downtown Cleveland (and any other comments you have on the proposals). Please share your input with the city! Plans and comment link here. You can also email comments to [email protected] . Here is some additional information on the proposals: master development plan . I think one key element is to encourage the city to plan for a CVSR station that will enable easy transfers from RTA - the whole point is to not need a parking lot at the downtown location. Recent proposals from the city have a tentative CVSR station in an inconvenient location. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
September 13, 2024Sep 13 11 hours ago, Boomerang_Brian said: CALL TO ACTION: The city of Cleveland's public comment period on the Core to Shore planning, including the Lakefront and the Riverfront (at Tower City), ends tomorrow at 5PM (Friday, September 13). I have learned that there has been very little public input to date - this is a great opportunity for rail advocates to call attention to both the potential multi-modal transit hub as well as the CVSR extension to downtown Cleveland (and any other comments you have on the proposals). Please share your input with the city! Plans and comment link here. You can also email comments to [email protected] . Here is some additional information on the proposals: master development plan . I think one key element is to encourage the city to plan for a CVSR station that will enable easy transfers from RTA - the whole point is to not need a parking lot at the downtown location. Recent proposals from the city have a tentative CVSR station in an inconvenient location. Done.
September 13, 2024Sep 13 I submitted a comment requesting a CVSR station location walkable from Public Square. I also requested a wider land bridge (or to preserve the possibility of future width expansion if funds are an issue) and for the new riverfront buildings to be built in Art Deco/Beaux Arts style (personal preference).
September 13, 2024Sep 13 8 minutes ago, Ethan said: I submitted a comment requesting a CVSR station location walkable from Public Square. I also requested a wider land bridge (or to preserve the possibility of future width expansion if funds are an issue) and for the new riverfront buildings to be built in Art Deco/Beaux Arts style (personal preference). I absolutely love your taste! We don’t need any more glass boxes!
September 13, 2024Sep 13 I will be commenting that CUT should be the preferred location of a new Amtrak station.
September 13, 2024Sep 13 I commented on the NEED for a more substantial connector over the shoreway/boulevard/whatever it becomes. I get the whole need for light for the danged convention center ballroom, but that pales in comparison for a proper connection between downtown and the lakefront.
September 13, 2024Sep 13 I wonder how often the CC ballroom is used? Will it be used less frequently with the new addition? Is a window/light really necessary? Edited September 13, 2024Sep 13 by LibertyBlvd
September 13, 2024Sep 13 This is what I threw together quickly to try and submit before the deadline, as I didn't see this until just a bit ago. If you're in the same jam, feel free to use/tweak it to submit something quickly as well 😃 "Dear Members of Bedrock and Cleveland City Leadership, I am excited about the steps being taken to capitalize on some of Cleveland's greatest assets! This will be a wonderful benefit to the residents of NEO, while also drawing new guests to our great city. The changes and improvements made through the initiative will be massive and while doing so, there is no greater time to make to work with other agencies to make necessary changes that would help boost Cleveland, and the NEO as a whole. One could not emphasize enough the vital importance of transforming Cleveland Union Terminal(aka Tower City), into a premier multi-modal transit hub for our city. This vision encompasses integrating the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority (RTA), Amtrak, and the Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad (CVSR) extension into one cohesive transit center. A unified and expanded rail network would be a tremendous boost for Cleveland. Currently, public buses, while valuable, cannot match the efficiency and attractiveness of a well-designed rail system. Rail transport is inherently faster and more reliable, with the added advantage of reducing congestion on our roads and offering a more environmentally friendly alternative to car travel. By establishing Tower City as the central transit hub, we will create a vibrant, interconnected transportation network that will not only serve residents but also attract visitors and businesses. This centralization will streamline travel across various modes of transit, making Cleveland a more accessible and dynamic city. Some of the benefits of having Tower City as the central transit hub include: 1. Bringing the residents of the city/suburbs via RTA, the region via CVSR, and beyond via Amtrak all to one central location. They can get move to connecting trains, or step of into one of Cleveland's most beautiful buildings and its front door, public square. 2. Having all rail lines united into one hub will make for easier access and increase ridership for all rail systems 3. Making Cleveland Union Terminal(Tower City) the hub for all public rail lines in CLE will bring it back full circle to one of it's original intended purposes, while also breathing life into it again. Imagine riders from All Three systems coming through at all times of the day and night, 24/7, shopping at the stores and eating at the restaurants... incredible! 4. There are so many more, but lastly for now. Making Tower City the transit hub would be a great addition to The Riverfront project and Cleveland’s Vision for the Valley. Having a premier multi-modal transit hub severe all the residents, employees and patrons this project will bring adds extreme value to all involved. One could fly into CLE and take the RTA to Tower City, or ride the Amtrak into CLE and Tower City, then walk to their new apartment/condo/hotel that has just been built via the Riverfront project. They could walk down to the Cuyahoga river and enjoy the park & kayak, then make their way back to tower city and ride the waterfront line to the lake... or perhaps walk through Public Square, across the mall and over the land-bridge to see a beautiful Cleveland sunset. All this without having to own a car, and it would be convenient. A bonus for those vacationing to our great city, or for the guest of the residents at the new apartments and condos. With Cleveland Union Terminal(Tower City) as our premier multi-modal transit hub it adds so much value to our city and brings endless possibilities! Additionally, in regards to the land-bridge connecting the lakefront with the city. I believe its imperative that we ensure that this land-bridge is as wide as Mall C to enhance the connection between our waterfront and downtown, fostering a seamless flow of people and encouraging economic development in these crucial areas. I support something similar to the proposal from the Haslam Sports Group, a bridge of that width would make the most sense and be of greater use, although preferably without the hole cutout in the center. Then activating the Malls and this land-bridge with fun and family friendly activites will be a great addition to our city. Investing in these improvements will elevate Cleveland’s status as a forward-thinking, transit-friendly city, making it a model for urban planning and development. I urge you to prioritize these initiatives to ensure that Cleveland continues to grow and thrive in the coming years. Thank you for your attention to this important matter. I am confident that with your leadership, Cleveland can achieve these ambitious goals and build a brighter future for all its residents. Sincerely,"
September 14, 2024Sep 14 18 hours ago, NR said: This is what I threw together quickly to try and submit before the deadline, as I didn't see this until just a bit ago. If you're in the same jam, feel free to use/tweak it to submit something quickly as well 😃 "Dear Members of Bedrock and Cleveland City Leadership, I am excited about the steps being taken to capitalize on some of Cleveland's greatest assets! This will be a wonderful benefit to the residents of NEO, while also drawing new guests to our great city. The changes and improvements made through the initiative will be massive and while doing so, there is no greater time to make to work with other agencies to make necessary changes that would help boost Cleveland, and the NEO as a whole. One could not emphasize enough the vital importance of transforming Cleveland Union Terminal(aka Tower City), into a premier multi-modal transit hub for our city. This vision encompasses integrating the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority (RTA), Amtrak, and the Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad (CVSR) extension into one cohesive transit center. A unified and expanded rail network would be a tremendous boost for Cleveland. Currently, public buses, while valuable, cannot match the efficiency and attractiveness of a well-designed rail system. Rail transport is inherently faster and more reliable, with the added advantage of reducing congestion on our roads and offering a more environmentally friendly alternative to car travel. By establishing Tower City as the central transit hub, we will create a vibrant, interconnected transportation network that will not only serve residents but also attract visitors and businesses. This centralization will streamline travel across various modes of transit, making Cleveland a more accessible and dynamic city. Some of the benefits of having Tower City as the central transit hub include: 1. Bringing the residents of the city/suburbs via RTA, the region via CVSR, and beyond via Amtrak all to one central location. They can get move to connecting trains, or step of into one of Cleveland's most beautiful buildings and its front door, public square. 2. Having all rail lines united into one hub will make for easier access and increase ridership for all rail systems 3. Making Cleveland Union Terminal(Tower City) the hub for all public rail lines in CLE will bring it back full circle to one of it's original intended purposes, while also breathing life into it again. Imagine riders from All Three systems coming through at all times of the day and night, 24/7, shopping at the stores and eating at the restaurants... incredible! 4. There are so many more, but lastly for now. Making Tower City the transit hub would be a great addition to The Riverfront project and Cleveland’s Vision for the Valley. Having a premier multi-modal transit hub severe all the residents, employees and patrons this project will bring adds extreme value to all involved. One could fly into CLE and take the RTA to Tower City, or ride the Amtrak into CLE and Tower City, then walk to their new apartment/condo/hotel that has just been built via the Riverfront project. They could walk down to the Cuyahoga river and enjoy the park & kayak, then make their way back to tower city and ride the waterfront line to the lake... or perhaps walk through Public Square, across the mall and over the land-bridge to see a beautiful Cleveland sunset. All this without having to own a car, and it would be convenient. A bonus for those vacationing to our great city, or for the guest of the residents at the new apartments and condos. With Cleveland Union Terminal(Tower City) as our premier multi-modal transit hub it adds so much value to our city and brings endless possibilities! Additionally, in regards to the land-bridge connecting the lakefront with the city. I believe its imperative that we ensure that this land-bridge is as wide as Mall C to enhance the connection between our waterfront and downtown, fostering a seamless flow of people and encouraging economic development in these crucial areas. I support something similar to the proposal from the Haslam Sports Group, a bridge of that width would make the most sense and be of greater use, although preferably without the hole cutout in the center. Then activating the Malls and this land-bridge with fun and family friendly activites will be a great addition to our city. Investing in these improvements will elevate Cleveland’s status as a forward-thinking, transit-friendly city, making it a model for urban planning and development. I urge you to prioritize these initiatives to ensure that Cleveland continues to grow and thrive in the coming years. Thank you for your attention to this important matter. I am confident that with your leadership, Cleveland can achieve these ambitious goals and build a brighter future for all its residents. Sincerely," My comment was similar to this, but yours is worded much better than mine haha. Hopefully people on here were a decent percentage of the comments. I'm just picturing the person reading the comments shaking their head and saying "those damn UrbanOhio folks"
September 15, 2024Sep 15 I have been following the overall news in this thread for a while and had been wondering if starchitect Sir David Adjaye was still involved with the master plan since the negative headlines worldwide last year. It appears Sir David has stepped back out of the spotlight and instead named 3 CEOs as the outward faces (New York, Accra and London). https://www.adjaye.com/news/adjaye-associates-announces-studio-ceos/ Maybe KLP has recent news from his Bibb or Rock Ventures contacts...or even from Pascale Sablan, the new head of Adjaye Associates's New York office? I did see this very recent hopeful(?) nugget buried in the Q&A with Pascale Sablan in June 25, 2024, who gave a brief nod to Cleveburg (boldened added): ...What is the current work of the New York studio? We have an incredible project in Barbados that the team is excited about. We are almost done with documentation and will begin construction soon. We’re continuing to collaborate on a Cleveland master plan. The mixed-use development at St. Elizabeth’s in Washington, D.C., is also a powerful project that literally makes me cry in some of these meetings when the community talks about what the project means to them. You think I’m joking, but I’m serious. And we have the Studio Museum, which is a beautiful cultural institution that we’re continuing to work on. It’s almost done, and as a person who lives in Harlem, I’m really in love with it. Plus, our art museum for Princeton University will open in the fall. The pipeline is strong, and the projects are moving forward. https://www.archpaper.com/2024/06/pascale-sablan-ceo-of-adjaye-associatess-her-work-current-state-practice/ FYI - I see the story on Ms. Sablan hyperlinks to their Dec 2022 story on the initial riverfront news - always fun to see how our liitle town (always punching above its weight class) is portayed to the world... https://www.archpaper.com/2022/12/david-adjayes-riverfront-master-plan-gives-reason-visit-cleveland/
September 16, 2024Sep 16 Author Adjaye did the master plan work. As far as I know, Bedrock is no longer using them for designing specific structures or public spaces. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 27, 2024Sep 27 Infrastructure work at Eagle Ave Over RTA tracks: Scranton Peninsula from Eagle Ave ramp Edited September 27, 2024Sep 27 by sonisharri
October 2, 2024Oct 2 Looks like the big ticket item on planning commission agenda this Friday is Cavs & Clinic Global Peak Performance Center seeking final approval: https://planning.clevelandohio.gov/designreview/drcagenda/2024/PDF/CPC/CPC10-04-2024.pdf
October 2, 2024Oct 2 The pics are on the CPC dropbox. Largely the same as conceptual approval with some refinements to the ground floor and more glazing. Looks awesome overall. Should be a great entrance to this area from W.3rd and Eagle. https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/nft99a8k4iq5im2lpc6xc/ANDIRyIf5aPI12IxiFhS3n8?e=3&preview=240926_CC+GPPC_Final+Submission_R1.pdf&rlkey=11b3sh0p78qqqignksbr7qnwi&st=ksexbo4d&bmus=1&dl=0
October 2, 2024Oct 2 1 hour ago, Geowizical said: Looks like the big ticket item on planning commission agenda this Friday is Cavs & Clinic Global Peak Performance Center seeking final approval: Oh Gosh! Permission granted! 🏆
October 2, 2024Oct 2 1 hour ago, Geowizical said: Looks like the big ticket item on planning commission agenda this Friday is Cavs & Clinic Global Peak Performance Center seeking final approval: https://planning.clevelandohio.gov/designreview/drcagenda/2024/PDF/CPC/CPC10-04-2024.pdf I see also on this Friday's agenda - looks like a public art initiative from Destination Cleveland: DF 2024-042 IlluminateCLE Donor Recognition Artwork seeking Final Approval Location: Public Square – Rockwell at Ontario Presenter: Alex Harnocz, Destination Cleveland ? https://www.thisiscleveland.com/illuminatecle
October 2, 2024Oct 2 Author I'm also seeing a couple of applications for tents on the Bedrock property around Collision Bend. Usually there are attachments to them showing details of what's being planned and why but these don't have any. I suspect they may be part of an upcoming groundbreaking ceremony. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 2, 2024Oct 2 2 hours ago, Ethan said: Also added some functionality to the rooftop. Terrace and programming. The first renderings had a basketball court on the roof. Would be super cool if they added that back.
October 3, 2024Oct 3 14 hours ago, Willo said: I see also on this Friday's agenda - looks like a public art initiative from Destination Cleveland: DF 2024-042 IlluminateCLE Donor Recognition Artwork seeking Final Approval Location: Public Square – Rockwell at Ontario Presenter: Alex Harnocz, Destination Cleveland ? https://www.thisiscleveland.com/illuminatecle Curious about this also. And one for a mural on St. Clair
October 3, 2024Oct 3 Borrowing this @CleveFan post of JonesDronescle nice skyline pic. Question for those with good spatial awareness skills: will the future Riverview development be substantial enough help fill in some of the gaps in the background?
October 3, 2024Oct 3 1 hour ago, surfohio said: Borrowing this @CleveFan post of JonesDronescle nice skyline pic. Question for those with good spatial awareness skills: will the future Riverview development be substantial enough help fill in some of the gaps in the background? I highly doubt it the elevation drop off is similar to the Flats so I compare it to the scale of the Flats East tower. Since the buildings will be built behind Terminal Tower you may see it peak through the cracks but not really impactful. The other side though? It'll look extremely dense.
October 3, 2024Oct 3 1 hour ago, surfohio said: Borrowing this @CleveFan post of JonesDronescle nice skyline pic. Question for those with good spatial awareness skills: will the future Riverview development be substantial enough help fill in some of the gaps in the background? I wouldn't say anything substantial. Just judging from the existing renderings I'd say maybe a small gap could be filled in in this photos between Terminal and Key? Because the buildings would be built at a lower elevation it isn't going to do much in terms of height from this perspective unfortunately.
October 3, 2024Oct 3 1 hour ago, surfohio said: Borrowing this @CleveFan post of JonesDronescle nice skyline pic. Question for those with good spatial awareness skills: will the future Riverview development be substantial enough help fill in some of the gaps in the background? @surfohio I do believe the tops of some of the taller structures, even considering the grade change, will be visible from this vantage point. So, IMHO, We will get some visual impact from this lakefront view. Edited October 3, 2024Oct 3 by ArtMasterCLE
October 3, 2024Oct 3 A tower on the nuCLEus site would probably fill the gap on the left of 200 PS from that vantage point. Edited October 3, 2024Oct 3 by LibertyBlvd
October 3, 2024Oct 3 Author Downtown Cavs/Clinic facility groundbreaking set By Ken Prendergast / October 3, 2024 Final approval is expected tomorrow by the City Planning Commission of designs for the proposed Cleveland Clinic Global Peak Performance Center featuring the Cleveland Cavaliers’ new practice facility and the Clinic’s sports health/wellness programs. But how do we know approval is expected? Because the groundbreaking ceremony for the new center has been set for the week after next. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/10/03/downtown-cavs-clinic-facility-groundbreaking-set/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 3, 2024Oct 3 That looks amazing. Seeing the building from that angle does raise a question. Does the Cuyahoga flood?
October 3, 2024Oct 3 Author 2 minutes ago, coneflower said: That looks amazing. Seeing the building from that angle does raise a question. Does the Cuyahoga flood? Yes, but because the river is so wide in the navigable portion, I've never seen it overflow its banks since it was widened in the late 1940s. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 3, 2024Oct 3 2 minutes ago, KJP said: Yes, but because the river is so wide in the navigable portion, I've never seen it overflow its banks since it was widened in the late 1940s. The most I have seen is a few years ago it was just over the banks by the grain elevator. The bulkhead is quite low in that spot.
October 3, 2024Oct 3 1 hour ago, coneflower said: That looks amazing. Seeing the building from that angle does raise a question. Does the Cuyahoga flood? Being so close to the mouth of the river, Lake Erie would have to flood for that part of the valley to flood.
October 3, 2024Oct 3 Author So how about those Bedrock plans! 😉 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 3, 2024Oct 3 2 hours ago, coneflower said: Does the Cuyahoga flood? That building looks like it could float anyway so I think it will be fine! Haha. I really like the freighter shape of the building though.
October 3, 2024Oct 3 1 hour ago, Dino said: That building looks like it could float anyway so I think it will be fine! Haha. I really like the freighter shape of the building though. Good point on the shape. I think the nightime view will be amazing from many vanatge points.
October 4, 2024Oct 4 Love the freighter vibe. I would take it a bit further by adding a smokestack/observation tower. Lit up at night you would see it from most angles of the city. A new landmark.
October 4, 2024Oct 4 13 hours ago, KJP said: So how about those Bedrock plans! 😉 Maybe didn’t read between the lines or notice in the pictures but I couldn’t see any phase 2 plans in the renderings?
October 4, 2024Oct 4 Author 2 hours ago, bwheats said: Maybe didn’t read between the lines or notice in the pictures but I couldn’t see any phase 2 plans in the renderings? The city is not being asked to approve anything other than the Global Center thingy. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 4, 2024Oct 4 21 hours ago, surfohio said: Borrowing this @CleveFan post of JonesDronescle nice skyline pic. Question for those with good spatial awareness skills: will the future Riverview development be substantial enough help fill in some of the gaps in the background? 550-600 ft on the Nucleus site in red. Blue would be if the proposed hotel in the renderings was made to be near the height of the Hilton. Some of the others may peek through, but I think would be mostly blocked by Key Tower, Terminal Tower, and the Hilton. Maybe the potential long term development west of the Stokes building show up a little bit as well.
October 4, 2024Oct 4 This Cavs facility looks great, it'll breath life into an underutilized part of the river. I have a question/comment about how it relates to the possibility of extending the CVSR to downtown. Ken's article references the "former CSX railroad right of way which was abandoned for the riverfront development." My understanding is that refers to the ROW that CVSR would need to get to Tower City, which is between the basketball facility site and Cleveland Thermal. The plans show that ROW north of Eagle Ave being turned into a new roadway, although from what I can tell it's not specifically in the site of facility that just got approval. All that is to say, the dream of connecting CVSR directly to Tower City is officially dead, right?
October 4, 2024Oct 4 The presentations is still on going as I type this, but something that has really struck me is how Bedrock actually listened to suggestions of design review and PC and made every effort to try and incorporate those suggestions in the final design, many of which related to making the building more open and friendly to the general public. Quite a contrast to SHW which basically ignored the Commission since they knew they had all the leverage. Thank you Bedrock. By the way, how can you not approve a building when it is presented by a guy with a British accent.
October 4, 2024Oct 4 Author 7 minutes ago, Htsguy said: By the way, how can you not approve a building when it is presented by a guy with a British accent. 🤣 Especially a high-brow Yorkshire accent like his. Sounds like the voice on the kid's computer in Wargames asking "Shall we play a game?" "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
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