September 7, 20186 yr Author @TowerLightsCLE 90 YEARS + a day | September 6, 1928 and Sept. 7, 2018 | Terminal Tower Construction on Prospect Ave. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 10, 20186 yr Author Iconic Skyscraper to Bring New Housing to Downtown Cleveland Published by Teresa Garcia on Monday, September 10, 2018 Terminal Tower is a Cleveland icon with impressive credentials. Work on Terminal Tower started with the second-largest excavation project after the Panama Canal and, upon completion in 1930, the 708-foot skyscraper was for decades the tallest building outside of New York. In popular culture, Terminal Tower featured prominently in the opening credits of films such as “Major League” and “A Christmas Story.” It even has its own Twitter account with more than 38,000 followers. Terminal Tower is about to add another line to its resume: downtown housing. The building’s new owner, K&D Group, is leveraging federal and state historic tax credits (HTCs) to convert 12 of the tower’s office floors into 303 apartments, while retaining the rest as leasable office space. MORE: https://www.novoco.com/periodicals/articles/iconic-skyscraper-bring-new-housing-downtown-cleveland "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 10, 20186 yr Observation deck news. http://www.cleveland19.com/story/39059696/the-observation-deck-at-terminal-tower-is-open-for-panoramic-views-photos
September 13, 20186 yr Author mjarboe[/member] Ken Till from @BedrockDetroit at @portofcleveland board meeting talking about May Co. renovations. Still mentions revamp planning for the Avenue at Tower City and riverfront land behind it (for those who have asked about whether possible casino sale will impact the real estate). mjarboe[/member] "We're in the initial planning stages," @BedrockDetroit's Ken Till says of Tower City mall redevelopment. "I would suggest there will probably be some news in three to four months, hopefully before the end of the year," he tells @portofcleveland board members. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 13, 20186 yr And when were Gilbert's most recent tweets on that space again? 2013? 2014? Call me cynical
September 13, 20186 yr ^Im hoping Gilbert sells everything to the Casino buyer. Otherwise, we are in for a second rate mall and a second rate casino
September 13, 20186 yr ^Im hoping Gilbert sells everything to the Casino buyer. Otherwise, we are in for a second rate mall and a second rate casino I don't think we need a clothing mall in that space per se. I'd like to see a smaller format big box store like Target, which could take up a lot of space. They're about 40,000 Sq Ft compared to 150,000. An Apple store could possibly do well there. There's one in Westlake, Woodmere, and Akron? A central location could do very well to serve the 100k+ day time working population, nearby neighborhoods, and inner suburbs. The space is really challenging, especially as the retail landscape is completely changing. It also has different challenges being an urban mall compared to a suburban mall, where it can't necessarily be repurposed in to residential space or a warehouse Amazon type space. Look at what Mentor is trying to do. They put in Round 1 in the former Men's Dillards. The space has a lot of challenges, but also a lot of potential.
September 16, 20186 yr Author And when were Gilbert's most recent tweets on that space again? 2013? 2014? Call me cynical We need fewer cynics and more skeptics. Cynics are convinced change is impossible. Skeptics need to be convinced change is possible. Skeptics don't trust everything they read. Cynics don't trust anyone they meet. Cynics are pessimists. Skeptics are realists. ;) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 17, 20186 yr Music-pop culture store FYE to exit Tower City's Avenue "The next big store to close at Avenue Shops at Tower City has been one of its tenants since the former train station reopened as an urban mall in 1990, the FYE music and pop culture products store." http://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/music-pop-culture-store-fye-exit-tower-citys-avenue
September 17, 20186 yr I'm not sure what the deal is with Tower City. It seems like they should be able to get decent retailers there now. It doesn't need to be high end. I'm thinking Old Navy, H&M and the like.
September 17, 20186 yr I'm not sure what the deal is with Tower City. It seems like they should be able to get decent retailers there now. It doesn't need to be high end. I'm thinking Old Navy, H&M and the like. Outlet Mall. Perfect pairing with a casino.
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November 29, 20186 yr Down goes another store in Tower City- LIDS was cleaning out their location as I headed to Dunkin Donuts for coffee this morning. A walk through a short time ago shows no hats/closed shop for Lids.
November 29, 20186 yr 1 hour ago, xu9697 said: Down goes another store in Tower City- LIDS was cleaning out their location as I headed to Dunkin Donuts for coffee this morning. A walk through a short time ago shows no hats/closed shop for Lids. Hmmmm. Remember Gilbert has a plan for Tower City. He is supposed to announce his plans ..... like a few months ago. Remember He brought in Mr. Tyl to work on Tower City as his No. 1 objective.
November 30, 20186 yr Author Maybe this is the plan. Empty out Tower City. Replace it with a giant indoor amusement park. ??? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 30, 20186 yr Things are happening on the design end, don’t know the timeline for any sort of announcement.
November 30, 20186 yr 2 hours ago, KJP said: Maybe this is the plan. Empty out Tower City. Replace it with a giant indoor amusement park. ??? Hollow out Terminal Tower, Replace it with a 700-foot drop tower! ? "We each pay a fabulous price for our visions of paradise." - ????, ???????
November 30, 20186 yr 10 hours ago, Boxtruffles said: Hollow out Terminal Tower, Replace it with a 700-foot drop tower! ? I'm here for this.
November 30, 20186 yr @w28th That is good to hear, I hope it is will be something of significance. Tower City is an urban gem.
February 4, 20196 yr Author Here's a small but interesting and historical enhancement to the former Main Post Office building between Prospect and Huron at West 3rd.... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2019/02012019/index.php DF2018-064 - Post Office Plaza Exterior Refresh: Seeking Final Approval Project Address: 1500 West 3rd Street Project Representative: James Haas, Westwork Architectural Studios DF2019-005 - Post Office Plaza Building Signage: Seeking Final Approval Project Address: 1500 West 3rd Street Project Representative: Jessica Ruff, Ruff Neon The eagle statues once stood guard outside the 1898 Chamber of Commerce building that was at the NE corner of Public Square until about 1950. It was demolished for a parking lot last lasted for nearly 40 years (our first parking lot on Public Square!). Key Tower now stands there. K&D, the current owners of the Post Office Plaza office building, is bringing them out of storage and intends to use them as follows.... Plus some world-class signage.... And how about some lighting while we're at it?? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 4, 20196 yr Am I the only one who gets a creepy fascist vibe from the combo of Art Deco and eagle sculptures?
February 4, 20196 yr Just now, StapHanger said: Am I the only one who gets a creepy fascist vibe from the combo of Art Deco and eagle sculptures? Yes.
February 4, 20196 yr I worked in this building years ago. Nice to see it get some updates!!! Edited February 4, 20196 yr by dar124
February 4, 20196 yr I think I've watched too much Man in the High Castle. This is such a super cool building. Even if I'm generally underwhelmed by K&D's taste level I very much appreciate their ability to lease up buildings and get work done.
February 4, 20196 yr Author It's been offices since the early 1990s when it became the MK-Ferguson Plaza. Correction -- since 1989. Edited February 4, 20196 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 5, 20196 yr Is it possible to walk into the Post Office building and look around/is it worth it (are there any visible murals or anything significance)?
February 5, 20196 yr Depends, isn't Quicken Loans still in there? I know they get bent out of shape about whatever mortgages they may be discussing.
February 5, 20196 yr 6 minutes ago, PaxtonMarley said: Depends, isn't Quicken Loans still in there? I know they get bent out of shape about whatever mortgages they may be discussing. No they moved to the Higbee building.
February 5, 20196 yr Author 7 minutes ago, PaxtonMarley said: Depends, isn't Quicken Loans still in there? I know they get bent out of shape about whatever mortgages they may be discussing. Quicken Loans was relocated in 2016 to the Higbee Building: https://www.quickenloans.com/press-room/multimedia/photographs/cleveland-oh/ @Mendo beat me to it 13 minutes ago, GISguy said: Is it possible to walk into the Post Office building and look around/is it worth it (are there any visible murals or anything significance)? There's a few (as in 3) interior photos here: https://www.officespace.com/oh/cleveland/1392231-1500-w-3rd-st Edited February 5, 20196 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 5, 20196 yr 7 minutes ago, PaxtonMarley said: Depends, isn't Quicken Loans still in there? I know they get bent out of shape about whatever mortgages they may be discussing. I thought they moved their offices to the Higbee Building a few years ago.
March 4, 20196 yr Google is behind the new Tower City makeover. And look for that section of Prospect Ave. to be turned to pedestrian only.
March 4, 20196 yr Shopping and retail will be a minimal segment of the new Tower City. It’s going full Tech
March 4, 20196 yr 11 minutes ago, marty15 said: Google is behind the new Tower City makeover. And look for that section of Prospect Ave. to be turned to pedestrian only. Sources????
March 4, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, marty15 said: Google is behind the new Tower City makeover. And look for that section of Prospect Ave. to be turned to pedestrian only. At what scale?
March 4, 20196 yr 7 hours ago, marty15 said: Google is behind the new Tower City makeover. And look for that section of Prospect Ave. to be turned to pedestrian only. False... at least the part about Google.
March 4, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, Klingaling87 said: False... at least the part about Google. What's the truth?
March 4, 20196 yr I could see the value in a streetscape project through that stretch of Prospect, but pedestrian only makes little sense. The loading docks for the Higbee building are on Prospect. Plus there are a bunch of bus stops that would have to be relocated.
March 4, 20196 yr I wouldn''t mind if the mall itself turned into a tech hub. What would have to happen for me is the retail shops on Prospect that are connected to tower city to be filled with at least the existing national retail inside the mall (T-mobile, Victoria Secret, Brooks Brothers etc.) I feel like they would perform much better as well.
March 4, 20196 yr 18 minutes ago, MyPhoneDead said: What's the truth? Can’t say. But the google part is most definitely not true.
March 4, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, Klingaling87 said: Can’t say. But the google part is most definitely not true. Okey dokie! And notice how CIFF has started to transition to the neighborhood theaters....
March 4, 20196 yr 7 minutes ago, Klingaling87 said: Can’t say. But the google part is most definitely not true. Are you able to say if we are going to find out soon?
March 4, 20196 yr 5 minutes ago, MyPhoneDead said: Are you able to say if we are going to find out soon? Work has already started btw. It’s happening
March 4, 20196 yr 21 hours ago, marty15 said: Work has already started btw. It’s happening What physical work has started? Edited March 5, 20196 yr by Klingaling87 Clarification
March 4, 20196 yr 52 minutes ago, Mendo said: I could see the value in a streetscape project through that stretch of Prospect, but pedestrian only makes little sense. The loading docks for the Higbee building are on Prospect. Plus there are a bunch of bus stops that would have to be relocated. Agreed--I'm all for traffic calming measures though
March 4, 20196 yr The company I work for (fairly large Cle-based GC/CM) has/had laborers at TC demo-img old retail spaces, including this past Sunday ( those of you not familiar with the Union building trades should know that Sunday work is double-time) so the heat is on to get these spaces ready for whatever's coming next; we've already been told by our superintendent that we've got more work coming at TC (not demo) later this spring/summer so something's definitely afoot down there.
March 4, 20196 yr I am excited to see the new project at TC. Please keep us posted when you can. As for what to do there, I have no real right to say. But what I always liked about Tower City was that it was a large public--even civic--space. Clearly they never got the retail mix correct, which is why we are where we are. But seeing it partitioned into a tech hub when there are literally dozens of other more appropriate spaces to do that would be a loss of a civic amenity.
March 4, 20196 yr Has the site of the blockchain hub been announced? https://www.crainscleveland.com/technology/blockland-cleveland-tech-hub-close-finding-home If not, that's a possibility.
March 4, 20196 yr Why are people spreading rumors without backing themselves up with sources? This feed is a joke and I'm taking nothing seriously from it
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