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    I rarely stumble across old Cincinnati building photos i haven't seen before, but at my work we are helping to develop a timeline wall for the little museum at the Sisters of Mount Notre Dame de Namur

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    I thought that aerial looked familiar.  I cleaned up the color and exposure back in 2016.  

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I rarely stumble across old Cincinnati building photos i haven't seen before, but at my work we are helping to develop a timeline wall for the little museum at the Sisters of Mount Notre Dame de Namur in Reading and this is one of the images they have of their former home downtown. Here is the caption that goes with the image. 321 East Sixth Street, Cincinnati, Ohio, circa 1945. This “Cradle of the Institute in the United States” was sold to the Red Cross in 1945. The museum is closed due to Covid-19 now as it is also in a building that houses the retirement home and nursing wing but if you like weird little bits of history it is pretty cool. They have building fragments, personal items and lots of small artifacts on the history of the order from it's beginning in Europe till today along with tons of photos and paperwork. This building was in the hands of the Red Cross for a bit but was torn down along with most everything in this pic for the oldest main building of P&Gs current HQ.

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On 12/29/2017 at 1:30 PM, cincity said:

Just looking through these again, and do you all think the building with the small spires (near the center) is the little synagogue that still remains in the alley now called Ruth Lyons lane in the backstage area? If so it is amazing it is still around after all teh changes around it. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cincinnati,+OH/@39.1032066,-84.5130895,54a,35y,54.88h,45.96t

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That Wikipedia article claims that the building was converted to condos, but I can't find any properties at that address (624 Ruth Lyons Lane) listed on the Hamilton County Auditor site.

2 minutes ago, taestell said:

That Wikipedia article claims that the building was converted to condos, but I can't find any properties at that address (624 Ruth Lyons Lane) listed on the Hamilton County Auditor site.

 

According to CAGIS that property is attached to 637 Walnut

 

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This photo was originally captioned:

 

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"Over the Rhine", an Old Residential Neighborhood North of the Business District, Is Being Rehabilitated 08/1973

 

Almost 50 years later, this stretch is almost fully "rehabilitated."

 

Also, Vine Street was two-way north of 13th Street at that point.

Wow, look at the Beaux Arts-looking 5/3 bank at the southeast corner of 12th and Vine. I'd love to see a picture of that corner back in the day.

1 hour ago, ink said:

Wow, look at the Beaux Arts-looking 5/3 bank at the southeast corner of 12th and Vine. I'd love to see a picture of that corner back in the day.

I remember them stumbling into the vaults when this was dug up for the 1990's Kroger garage project.image.png.c9db803d3ae7a32b263b3e67e78aeb4d.png

2 hours ago, taestell said:
"Over the Rhine", an Old Residential Neighborhood North of the Business District, Is Being Rehabilitated 08/1973

 

Those were the days of the massive expenditure of millions and millions of dollars by HUD.  Growing up in Over the Rhine in the late 60's-mid 80's, these rehabbed apartments were all the rage. My parents and 10 siblings were never so fortunate to have lived in one. I never knew it then, but all of the places we lived (there were a lot of them) still retained most of their original features and had not been stripped of much of their character.   Man, those were amazing days.   and the old Bank at 12th and Vine was spectacular. 

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I thought that aerial looked familiar.  I cleaned up the color and exposure back in 2016.  

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What is always so different to me about older OTR rooftop views vs more recent ones is how many chimneys have been truncated as they were no longer needed. 

^Also, almost all of the old metal roofs have been replaced by rubber.  

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This would be a good one for "Guess the City" since most buildings in this image are gone.

 

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13 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

This would be a good one for "Guess the City" since most buildings in this image are gone.

 

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Somewhere south of Inwood Park. Sanders Hall in background. 

It's hard to believe what ruin that complex devolved into by the 1990s after having had a lot of money invested in it in the 1970s. 

 

Also, if you actually walked into one of those units you'd understand why no developer sought to do a high-end renovation in the 2000s.  The units were amazingly narrow and shallow.  Each floor of each unit was basically just one room.  Also, the staircases were very narrow and very steep yet took up much of the space on each tiny floor of each tiny unit. 

Crosley Tower will remain standing forever unless a nuclear bomb is dropped on UC's campus that destroys it.

 

I didn't realize Sander Hall was that tall. I never saw it in person and I always assumed it was roughly the same height as the other dorm towers on campus, but it appears to have been about twice as tall as the other dorms on campus. I bet it had great panoramic views of the whole city.

 

Another fun fact: while the actual dorm tower of Sander Hall was demolished in 1991, the dining hall attached to it was not demolished. That building was named "Sander Dining" for about 20 more years before they realized that didn't make any sense and it was finally renamed "60 West Charlton". (It is still there today.)

Oh yes Sander was 27 stories tall, it was quite large.  

12 hours ago, taestell said:

Crosley Tower will remain standing forever unless a nuclear bomb is dropped on UC's campus that destroys it.

 

I didn't realize Sander Hall was that tall. I never saw it in person and I always assumed it was roughly the same height as the other dorm towers on campus, but it appears to have been about twice as tall as the other dorms on campus. I bet it had great panoramic views of the whole city.

 

Another fun fact: while the actual dorm tower of Sander Hall was demolished in 1991, the dining hall attached to it was not demolished. That building was named "Sander Dining" for about 20 more years before they realized that didn't make any sense and it was finally renamed "60 West Charlton". (It is still there today.)

 

I remember walking into Sander Dining a time or two and thinking something was very weird about one side of the building. I just chalked it up to "general bad college campus remodel butchering" like you see at a lot of schools. I had no idea about Sander Hall.

On 6/5/2020 at 11:15 PM, taestell said:

 "Sander Dining"

 

Also, the original Addriatico's was located directly across Jefferson Ave. from this tower (where the "new" [circa-2002] row house condos are now).  I don't think that people understand how much the demolition of Sanders Hall and later the 3 sisters damaged the viability of Short Vine businesses.  FFWD to the late 2010s and Short Vine is back in part because 2 of the sisters are once again occupied + the new Spencer Hall.   

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On 6/5/2020 at 11:15 PM, taestell said:

I didn't realize Sander Hall was that tall. I never saw it in person and I always assumed it was roughly the same height as the other dorm towers on campus, but it appears to have been about twice as tall as the other dorms on campus. I bet it had great panoramic views of the whole city.

 

Sander Hall was 297 feet tall, so the tallest outside of downtown.  Only the Carew-Netherland Garage at 342 feet was taller of all the demolished buildings in Ohio.

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12 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

Sander Hall was 297 feet tall, so the tallest outside of downtown.  Only the Carew-Netherland Garage at 342 feet was taller of all the demolished buildings in Ohio.

 

Carew Tower is built on land with an elevation of 541 ft and is 574 ft tall, meaning the top is at an elevation of 1115 ft.

 

Sander Hall was built at an elevation of 827 ft, so if it was 297 ft tall, the top is 1124 ft, or 19 ft taller than the top of Carew Tower.

Now imagine THAT skyline shot (pre-personal drone days)!

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Sanders closed after my freshman year, the windows were nearly as wide as the entire door room and almost floor to ceiling.  The views to the south were amazing!

 

On 6/5/2020 at 11:15 PM, taestell said:

Crosley Tower will remain standing forever unless a nuclear bomb is dropped on UC's campus that destroys it.

 

I didn't realize Sander Hall was that tall. I never saw it in person and I always assumed it was roughly the same height as the other dorm towers on campus, but it appears to have been about twice as tall as the other dorms on campus. I bet it had great panoramic views of the whole city.

 

Another fun fact: while the actual dorm tower of Sander Hall was demolished in 1991, the dining hall attached to it was not demolished. That building was named "Sander Dining" for about 20 more years before they realized that didn't make any sense and it was finally renamed "60 West Charlton". (It is still there today.)

I was 6 years old and I remember my dad took me to the demo of Sanders Hall. It was a big building. The demo went terribly wrong though because I remember my dad snatching me up and we ran down Ohio toward Bellevue Park. The dust and debris field was massive and people weren't far enough back.

9 hours ago, taestell said:

 

Carew Tower is built on land with an elevation of 541 ft and is 574 ft tall, meaning the top is at an elevation of 1115 ft.

 

Sander Hall was built at an elevation of 827 ft, so if it was 297 ft tall, the top is 1124 ft, or 19 ft taller than the top of Carew Tower.

 

Legend I always heard was it was the highest point in Hamilton County until it was demolished. Now it is the summit of Mt. Rumpke. Not sure if any of that is true.

On 6/5/2020 at 11:15 PM, taestell said:

Crosley Tower will remain standing forever unless a nuclear bomb is dropped on UC's campus that destroys it.

 

I didn't realize Sander Hall was that tall. I never saw it in person and I always assumed it was roughly the same height as the other dorm towers on campus, but it appears to have been about twice as tall as the other dorms on campus. I bet it had great panoramic views of the whole city.

 

Another fun fact: while the actual dorm tower of Sander Hall was demolished in 1991, the dining hall attached to it was not demolished. That building was named "Sander Dining" for about 20 more years before they realized that didn't make any sense and it was finally renamed "60 West Charlton". (It is still there today.)

 

It had a few classrooms in it too. Seem to remember them being on the second floor of the dining hall. Not sure if they are still in there now.

1 hour ago, savadams13 said:

I was 6 years old and I remember my dad took me to the demo of Sanders Hall. It was a big building. The demo went terribly wrong though because I remember my dad snatching me up and we ran down Ohio toward Bellevue Park. The dust and debris field was massive and people weren't far enough back.

 

Check out the opening of this video from the demo. It was shot from the corner of Scioto and Classen Streets.

 

 

Same view in 2019:

https://goo.gl/maps/2NPYPNeyJK57SkpUA

No John Cougar Mellencamps were harmed in the making of this film. 

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Kenwood...when Kenwood Mall was just a strip mall:

 

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On 6/7/2020 at 11:09 AM, Rabbit Hash said:

 

Legend I always heard was it was the highest point in Hamilton County until it was demolished. Now it is the summit of Mt. Rumpke. Not sure if any of that is true.

 

It had a few classrooms in it too. Seem to remember them being on the second floor of the dining hall. Not sure if they are still in there now.

 

Check out the opening of this video from the demo. It was shot from the corner of Scioto and Classen Streets.

 

 

Same view in 2019:

https://goo.gl/maps/2NPYPNeyJK57SkpUA

 

 

 

ahh great! the infamous sander hall. my homie in brooklyn's dorm building. i'll send him this -- thanks!

On 6/7/2020 at 11:09 AM, Rabbit Hash said:

Legend I always heard was it was the highest point in Hamilton County until it was demolished. Now it is the summit of Mt. Rumpke. Not sure if any of that is true.

 

On 6/7/2020 at 12:54 AM, taestell said:

Carew Tower is built on land with an elevation of 541 ft and is 574 ft tall, meaning the top is at an elevation of 1115 ft.

Sander Hall was built at an elevation of 827 ft, so if it was 297 ft tall, the top is 1124 ft, or 19 ft taller than the top of Carew Tower.

 

Nice, I didn't realize they were so close.  Of course this would only be the highest *building* not the highest *structure* in the county.  There's plenty of radio/TV towers that are taller.  The WKRQ (WKRC) Tower in Mt. Auburn is the tallest structure in the county at 967' and an elevation of 772' for a total elevation of 1,739'.  However, of the four tallest towers in the area, it's actually the lowest in total elevation because the rest (Star Tower in Finneytown, WLWT in Fairview, and WCPO in Walnut Hills) are perched on higher hills.  So Star Tower looks to be the winner at 954' and an elevation of 894' for a total elevation of 1,848'.

 

The highest natural grade in the county is the location of the Mt. Airy water tanks at Colerain and North Bend at 962' elevation.  Mt. Rumpke at last measure was 1,075' for the highest man-made grade. 

5 hours ago, jjakucyk said:

There's plenty of radio/TV towers that are taller.  

 

I flown in a helicopter twice over UC and Downtown.  The radio towers seem like wickets when you're up there.  A helicopter most certainly does not fly higher than those towers.  

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https://search-proquest-com.research.cincinnatilibrary.org/hnpcincinnatienquirershell/docview/1886216750/E49786FA13CF4BC9PQ/1

 

If you have a Cincinnati Library card you can read this fascinating Enquirer article from 1974 titled "The Calhoun." It captures the moment when the area of Calhoun/McMillan was on the cusp of being transformed from a working-class Appalachian neighborhood into a fast-food wasteland. Some great photos in there as well, interspersed with ads for 70's sofa sets.

 

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The Calhoun looks like an old neighborhood that has tried hard to serve its across-the-street neighbor, the University of Cincinnati, with its 37,000 students. Ironically, many of the people in The Calhoun feel that they have not been well-served by the University. There is widespread resentment of what is seen as destruction of much of the neighborhood and its housing over the years to make parking lots (one of which now serves only as a UC coal dump). A second irony is that UCs justification for all this leveling was its own expanding enrollment, which now looks as if it is slackening off.

 

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On 4/30/2020 at 10:39 AM, Jimmy Skinner said:

 

I think as a kid I went to a store that looked just like that at 7132 Hamilton Avenue, where the Kroger is now. 

Holy crap, I completely forgot about Thriftway!!

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Spring in Our Steps posted this interesting diagram of how the various alleyways/streets on the hillside between Mohawk and Clifton Heights used to look:

 

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I have no idea what would go into reactivating that portion of Renner St, not to mention the stair connection to Klotter. But it seems with the increased housing demand there might be a reason to do so, unless it was abandoned for landslide/safety issues and not just misguided 1960s "urban renewal."

 

It looks like this may be where the Manchester stairs hit Klotter: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1223459,-84.5237325,3a,71.7y,183.84h,89.73t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sMIu8VBFcMP2CNOt7l1iFog!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DMIu8VBFcMP2CNOt7l1iFog%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D182.42052%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

 

 

55 minutes ago, oudd said:

Spring in Our Steps posted this interesting diagram of how the various alleyways/streets on the hillside between Mohawk and Clifton Heights used to look:

 

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I have no idea what would go into reactivating that portion of Renner St, not to mention the stair connection to Klotter. But it seems with the increased housing demand there might be a reason to do so, unless it was abandoned for landslide/safety issues and not just misguided 1960s "urban renewal."

 

It looks like this may be where the Manchester stairs hit Klotter: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1223459,-84.5237325,3a,71.7y,183.84h,89.73t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sMIu8VBFcMP2CNOt7l1iFog!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DMIu8VBFcMP2CNOt7l1iFog%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D182.42052%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

 

 

 

The steps hit Klotter between 277 and 301 - both of which are newer ~1990s construction on atypically wide lots. It looks like the 20' ROW was sold and split between them in 1989. The streetview link above is 273 Klotter, which seems to just have been a house that was torn down at some point.

 

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I used to live on the south side of the 300 block of Klotter. I would go back into those woods on occasion to look around. The remnants of Renner Street create a short path from the chunk of Renner that still exists to Byron Street. The north side of Renner up to Klotter is very steep terrain - ~30% grade with 100+ feet of elevation change between the two streets. For being such a small patch of woods, I always saw lots of wildlife back there. Groundhogs, deer, hawks nested in the taller trees, garter snakes, and I even saw a turtle once (maybe a pet that escaped?).

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, taestell said:

This photo was supposedly taken in Downtown Cincinnati but I don’t recognize a single thing that would indicate where this was taken. Any ideas?

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQooQUgnPTh/

 

It looks like New York. The plate on the car behind them is yellow like New York plates, and the cop standing there also looks like he's in a classic NYPD blue uniform. Weren't Cincinnati PD uniforms always white?

 

Edit, it's the corner of 51st and Broadway, looking north:

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7620541,-73.9837056,3a,75y,66.08h,99.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQNc3IaUcXhXZxJNMGqGbMQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

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As I stated here, I've come across a decent chunk of scans of documents, proposals, reports, etc. 

 

I found this in a 1914 proposal on revisions to the subway project. It shows central parkway without any roads and the ventilation shafts along the subway.

 

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Johnny Bench tweeted out an old video he put together of 1980s Cincinnati...

 

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On 12/8/2021 at 6:35 AM, The_Cincinnati_Kid said:

Johnny Bench tweeted out an old video he put together of 1980s Cincinnati...

 

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That's a great video. "Cotton Pickin hands" though said by that lady...so cringy

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^cool photo... that must've been taken from a plane/helicopter, right? That building (36 E 7th) was constructed in 1988. Seems like it was taken from roughly above Main St in the 600 Block, but I don't think there was a tall tower (over ~250') on that block in '80s (nor ever, as far as I know).

Yeah, it's definitely from a plane/helicopter. 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

On 6/7/2020 at 12:42 AM, ColDayMan said:

 

Sander Hall was 297 feet tall, so the tallest outside of downtown.  Only the Carew-Netherland Garage at 342 feet was taller of all the demolished buildings in Ohio.

Does this need to be revised with the demo of the Millennium Hotel?

Yes, it does.  The Millennium Hotel Cincinnati is now Ohio's tallest building ever to be demolished at 350 feet.

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This will make you cry

 

https://x.com/CarsRuinedCity/status/1732417239494860965?s=20

 

3rd and Central Streets, Cincinnati, Ohio. 25,000 people were displaced to build I-75 and the surrounding parking lots.

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

This is not 3rd and Central though. The point of view is looking East towards Walnut Street from Vine Street. The photo doesn't take in the corner of 3rd and Vine, those buildings are just out of frame. Up ahead at the intersection of 3rd and Walnut you can see the turreted building of the United Bank bldg, the grand old Masonic Temple across the street, and the old First National Bank Building. 

 

4 hours ago, cincity said:

This is not 3rd and Central though.

That was my first thought as well, but wasn't sure enough to identify where it actually was taken from. 

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