Posted February 15, 201213 yr ...and the difficulty in overcoming stereotypes. Exhibit A: link to facebook Exhibit B: link to facebook
February 16, 201213 yr ...and the difficulty in overcoming stereotypes. Exhibit A: 222 "likes" and 31 "shares" in 2 days link to facebook Exhibit B: 32 "likes" and 44 "shares" in 4 days link to facebook Randy and I debunked that most dangerous rating in about what, two hours of research? http://www.urbancincy.com/2010/10/over-the-rhine-is-not-one-of-the-nations-most-dangerous-neighborhoods/
February 16, 201213 yr Yes, it's certainly not true but still pernicious. Maybe an Admin or Mod can delete this thread?
February 16, 201213 yr Before an admin deletes the thread, I hope you found my response post in good humor. I too have been annoyed by the anti-OTR postings under the label "CincyProblems". Even though it shouldn't, it really surprises me when people still think of OTR as a black hole of danger. The "Shit Cincinnatians Say" video falls under the same pernicious ignorance. I believe one of the lines was "I don't want to drive through over the rhine." I guess that is something my mom might have said when I was a kid if we had to go from Clifton to Downtown, but we usually took the straight shot down Vine anyway.
February 16, 201213 yr I don't think people still view Over-the-Rhine in Cincinnati in that way. Perception has changed a little bit over the past few years, with all the new development.
February 16, 201213 yr Cincinnati will never be taken seriously as a city until it can roll with the punches and take some ribbing once in a while. When Cincinnati's boosters wail and gnash their teeth whenever somebody pokes fun of the city, it only serves to underscore the stereotype of Cincinnati as an uptight and humorless place with a massive chip on its collective shoulder. People insult New York and London all the time, but the usual reaction among locals is to brush it off and move on, and both of those cities seem to be doing just fine. Los Angeles treats its own negative stereotypes as a punch line, and Detroit takes a certain amount of pride in its dismal public image. (You'll never see one of those Chrysler commercials during the Super Bowl set in someplace like Charlotte or Phoenix.) Portland gets a good laugh from its own worst stereotypes. (Portlandia, anybody?) Cincinnati needs to learn how to do likewise.
February 16, 201213 yr ^Couldn't agree more, I was one of the people who liked the image, because it illustrated a mentality in the region in a funny way. Its a mentality that i IMO will be gone in a few years, but still something that is persistant in people's consciousness. On that note I'm in town, went to Bakersfield, had Horchata in Cincinnati along with Tacos Al Pastor... something a few years ago I never thought I'd be able to do. OTR is becoming a slice of larger city life in the middle of "stoic, conservative" Cincinnati, and that is a good thing that makes the cartoon all the more funny. ;)
February 16, 201213 yr ^ Cincinnati is not New York or London, and sometimes it is difficult to stomach the ribbing. If Cincinnati was made fun of for its burgeoning hipster culture, a la Portlandia, of course we would all have a good sense of humor about it. The central problem with local memes like the one above and the Shi!t Cincinnatians Say video is that it stems from a local ignorance. I know those people, I grew up with those people, and I don't want to say that those people are stuck in an outdated suburban mentality, but those people probably have a penchant for Applebees and hang out at Newport on the Levy or MLT's. Just Sayin.
February 16, 201213 yr ^Couldn't agree more, I was one of the people who liked the image, because it illustrated a mentality in the region in a funny way. Its a mentality that i IMO will be gone in a few years, but still something that is persistant in people's consciousness. On that note I'm in town, went to Bakersfield, had Horchata in Cincinnati along with Tacos Al Pastor... something a few years ago I never thought I'd be able to do. OTR is becoming a slice of larger city life in the middle of "stoic, conservative" Cincinnati, and that is a good thing that makes the cartoon all the more funny. ;) I wish I could agree that this would be gone in "a few years".. but I just can't. I think it will take a lot longer than that, sadly. (I am assuming by a few you mean a couple.. I'd say at least 20 or 30)
February 16, 201213 yr ^that's what girls look like after going on a date with me! In a recent article on WCPO about shopping local there were very few comments about "you will die if you go to OTR" http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/local_news/Forget-buy-American-buy-local-Local-companies-and-stores-offer-a-variety-of-products Still, I think David's depiction of popular attitudes is pretty rosy.
February 16, 201213 yr I wish I could agree that this would be gone in "a few years".. but I just can't. I think it will take a lot longer than that, sadly. (I am assuming by a few you mean a couple.. I'd say at least 20 or 30) I'd say 10 years at the rate things are going :-) . Change is happening at a remarkably fast rate in Cincinnati, its baffling me in the best kind of way possible :P - plus wait until Mercer Commons is done as just about everyone else here states, it will be a game changer.
February 16, 201213 yr Cincinnati will never be taken seriously as a city until it can roll with the punches and take some ribbing once in a while. Amen to that. Any other city in Ohio would have loved the flying pigs on Sawyer Point.
February 16, 201213 yr ^ Huh? OK, I'm willing to give in to LIG and others who seem to be so bothered by our lack of sense of humor (no, I wasn't born here). But are you actually saying we are lamenting flying pigs? For goodness sake, we had big fiberglass pigs scattered about the city a few years ago, then there is the hugely successful flying pig marathon, and Barrelhouse used to make a flying pig pilsner (before they closed). I mean, we CELEBRATE pork and pigs in this city, and our attachment to them.
February 16, 201213 yr Yes, people were actually complaining about the flying pigs at Sawyer Point when they were first built.
February 16, 201213 yr ^ Oh come on. I can find people complaining about pretty much anything. You're hurting your own argument.
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