June 6, 20187 yr Interesting perspective https://instagram.com/p/Bjr-e0cHoCQ/ Reading her comment it sounds like she works in otr, but lives in Lebanon OH. I’m not a women, and haven’t really lived in any other urban cities aside from Cincy. Is this simply the nature of the beast when it comes to urban environments? Or is this an, “OTR resident issue” problem? I’d also like to propose this question...If you had a daughter, would you feel confident that she would be safe if she lived alone in OTR? I know it’s a loaded question of sorts since urban environments always pose some risk, but with relation to the current state of OTR, do you feel that safety would still be a concern for a single women living and working in otr today? Just curious on what all of your respective thoughts are on this!
June 6, 20187 yr ^ She sounds incredibly dumb and I call BS on 90% of her claims in that post. She's wearing an 'adorable deplorable' shirt in one of her other Instagram posts, so I think that says it all. She and her ilk are not the type of people who will see value in any urban neighborhood, so fu** her. Let her move back to Texas like she claims she's about to do.
June 6, 20187 yr It’s like people don’t realize that OTR used to be one of the worst neighborhoods in the country. If you looked at OTR even 10 years ago it is way different now. I love OTR and think it’s now one of the best neighborhoods in the country. I try to go down as much as I can. If she wants to go back to Texas then let her. We need people who believe in this neighborhood and this city, not Debby Downers.
June 6, 20187 yr The area of OTR you're in matters a lot. I would feel just as comfortable letting my theoretical daughter live south of Liberty, alone, as I would letting her live in Northside, East Walnut Hills, Westwood, etc. But things are different for women, and it's hard for me to fully appreciate just how different it is. Stories I hear from some people are terrible. People who live in OTR. But to say that she passes two drug deals on her way to work every day, or that every day she gets accosted, I'm skeptical. Yes, it happens. But I also think she hates cities in general. I have no reason not to believe that all of those things have happened to her, though.
June 6, 20187 yr I pass a drug deal nearly every day (sometimes twice) walking just over a block from 12th/Vine to 12th/Race. It is rare that I walk to Kroger on Vine and NOT see a drug deal happening in their parking lot or just adjacent to their lot. There is a lot of drug dealing in OTR still despite a great amount of improvement over the last two decades. "Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago." - Warren Buffett
June 6, 20187 yr The area of OTR you're in matters a lot. I would feel just as comfortable letting my theoretical daughter live south of Liberty, alone, as I would letting her live in Northside, East Walnut Hills, Westwood, etc. But things are different for women, and it's hard for me to fully appreciate just how different it is. Stories I hear from some people are terrible. People who live in OTR. But to say that she passes two drug deals on her way to work every day, or that every day she gets accosted, I'm skeptical. Yes, it happens. But I also think she hates cities in general. I have no reason not to believe that all of those things have happened to her, though. Yea, it's a horrible take. I live south of Central Parkway but spend a lot of time in OTR. The place she describes is not OTR. Maybe 15 years ago, but not in 2018. My girlfriend has never been accosted in the way she claims. Certainly, homeless folks ask us for money, but neither of us have ever felt threatened. My friend and his wife own a condo in OTR and they have had nothing but good experiences. I have only ever experienced what I thought was a drug deal once, but I'm not even 100% sure that's what I saw. Bottom Line: She hates cities and people who aren't like her. She's also a gun nut, judging by her other Insta posts.
June 6, 20187 yr I pass a drug deal nearly every day (sometimes twice) walking just over a block from 12th/Vine to 12th/Race. It is rare that I walk to Kroger on Vine and NOT see a drug deal happening in their parking lot or just adjacent to their lot. There is a lot of drug dealing in OTR still despite a great amount of improvement over the last two decades. Not saying you're wrong, but do you see drugs/money actually being exchanged? I've never encountered that kind of out in the open drug dealing in OTR. I used to see that in parts of North Philly, but not here.
June 6, 20187 yr I pass a drug deal nearly every day (sometimes twice) walking just over a block from 12th/Vine to 12th/Race. It is rare that I walk to Kroger on Vine and NOT see a drug deal happening in their parking lot or just adjacent to their lot. There is a lot of drug dealing in OTR still despite a great amount of improvement over the last two decades. Not saying you're wrong, but do you see drugs/money actually being exchanged? I've never encountered that kind of out in the open drug dealing in OTR. I used to see that in parts of North Philly, but not here. Yes, I do actually see money exchanging hands and buyers holding out their hand afterwards examining to make sure they got all the crack or heroin they're due. Far too often it results in arguments as well. That is why there was a shooting a year ago in front of Tender Mercies and a pistol whipping six months ago at the corner of 12th/Race. I'm trying to get the Tender Mercies folks to be better neighbors, but they're claiming HUD rules now don't allow them to easily evict addicts and dealers (which I'm pretty skeptical about). "Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago." - Warren Buffett
June 6, 20187 yr ^ She sounds incredibly dumb and I call BS on 90% of her claims in that post. She's wearing an 'adorable deplorable' shirt in one of her other Instagram posts, so I think that says it all. She and her ilk are not the type of people who will see value in any urban neighborhood, so fu** her. Let her move back to Texas like she claims she's about to do. She doesn't sound dumb at all, it just sounds like you don't believe her, and I'm not sure why. Her post sounds pretty believable to me, especially the parts about cat calls and open air drug dealing (there are several places in OTR where this is somehow still commonplace). I've also overheard some pretty vulgar stuff shouted down the street at women, typically crossing a line into what even I'd consider threatening. When I lived on the corner of Walnut and Liberty, both the cat calls and drug dealing were daily occurrences. My wife (girlfriend at the time) would get hollered at almost every time she was on the street alone. There were a few times very late at night that I had the more industrious drug dealers actually approach me to try and make a sale, like I was the odd one out for being there for some reason other than that. Granted, this was years ago and that corner has cleaned up a bit since (at least on the south side of Liberty). It’s like people don’t realize that OTR used to be one of the worst neighborhoods in the country. If you looked at OTR even 10 years ago it is way different now. I love OTR and think it’s now one of the best neighborhoods in the country. I try to go down as much as I can. If she wants to go back to Texas then let her. We need people who believe in this neighborhood and this city, not Debby Downers. It sounds like the woman above is a recent transplant to Cincinnati. If you're someone who moved here recently, you probably wouldn't know OTR used to be one of the worst neighborhoods in the country. It gets mostly good press now and especially great word of mouth. I have no doubts in my mind many people who end up working, living, or even visiting the neighborhood have a mistaken idea in their heads of what it's like, and are justifiably peeved when they get their rude awakening that it's got all the urban problems a gentrifying neighborhood comes with. Most of us here are immune to that because we've been around long enough to remember when it was way, way worse.
June 6, 20187 yr Yet you still see families move into otr and drop 400-500k in a new condo...Which is good that the open air drug dealing isn’t a deterrent, but you still see drug dealings fairly frequently, especially on republic and on vine near the Kroger. The police don’t care. It’s sad.
June 6, 20187 yr Yeah it depends on where she would be in OTR. If it is North of Liberty I have no doubt it happens and either way I wouldn't doubt anything she says. I agree with what Ram has said here. I lived around where Ram did about 3 years ago or a little more for a year and it was definitely a dicey area. The thing about it is that those areas won't be cleaned up or safer until they get the properties redeveloped and then the dealing just moves up a bit north. I think south of Liberty once they get working on Vine and 15th (east side) and the Kroger area, it is going to decrease the dealing, etc. in that area. I don't know where she works but she probably doesn't work at a place like Empower Media Marketing where everything would be safe and nice. It changes quick in OTR
June 6, 20187 yr Yet you still see families move into otr and drop 400-500k in a new condo...Which is good that the open air drug dealing isn’t a deterrent, but you still see drug dealings fairly frequently, especially on republic and on vine near the Kroger. The police don’t care. It’s sad. A police officer lives across the street from that Kroger and sees drug dealing from his window all the time. I was floored when I heard him say it as I too wondered why they can't do anymore there. The biggest problem is Kroger that hires private security and instructs them to not patrol or call in issues in their lot or the sidewalk in front. "Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago." - Warren Buffett
June 6, 20187 yr ^^ Maybe she works at the Shell, in which case the only thing unbelievable about her post is that she hasn't seen worse. Aside from vacations and what not, that's the only place I get gas. I only need gas about once a month or so, but every time I'm there something bizarre is going on. The giant metal fence around it and seemingly permanent police presence has helped a bit recently, though, but that in and of itself could be seen as bizarre.
June 6, 20187 yr ^^ Maybe she works at the Shell, in which case the only thing unbelievable about her post is that she hasn't seen worse. Aside from vacations and what not, that's the only place I get gas. I only need gas about once a month or so, but every time I'm there something bizarre is going on. The giant metal fence around it and seemingly permanent police presence has helped a bit recently, though, but that in and of itself could be seen as bizarre. I’m not going to lie, I went to that shell with a group of friends one night to buy cigarettes. Even then, I felt like my life was in danger. That shell gas station is so incredibly dangerous to go to, especially at the dead of night. I see out of town people explore otr and start walking past liberty st. I always feel bad, because I don’t think they realize they can easily get mugged if they aren’t careful, even being in groups.
June 6, 20187 yr I can't wait until the new Kroger opens so they can close to the current ghetto one. It will make that last section of Vine street soo much better when it's gone and developed into something nice and useful.
June 6, 20187 yr I love OTR. I've raised my kids here and OTR doesn't need people who come here expecting it to be spic and span and all orderly and sh*t. I'd rather keep the grit than change it to make the pedal bike types feel more comfortable.
June 6, 20187 yr ^ She sounds incredibly dumb and I call BS on 90% of her claims in that post. She's wearing an 'adorable deplorable' shirt in one of her other Instagram posts, so I think that says it all. She and her ilk are not the type of people who will see value in any urban neighborhood, so fu** her. Let her move back to Texas like she claims she's about to do. Girl who wears "adorable deplorable" shirt and posts selfies with a gun is scared to walk down the street in OTR. Right... I'm surprised she didn't post something about how all of these problems are due to liberals that run America's cities.
June 6, 20187 yr OTR is 1/2 a square mile in size. After fifteen years of 3CDC only less than half of that area really has been revitalized. “All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.” -Friedrich Nietzsche
June 6, 20187 yr "I get threatened with rape almost daily." At best, she is greatly exaggerating her experiences. At worst, she's lying through her Instamouth.
June 6, 20187 yr Like I said before, I'm sure the frequency of these events are exaggerated, but her story isn't that strange. This stuff happens.
June 6, 20187 yr Other captions from her photos: "lindsey.eversforgeworks#WhyICarry part deux. Because this man fought for my right to do so. Also, because this is America and I won’t allow some tide pod eating child to determine what is allowed in my home. Wanna #marchforourlives ? Go to your nearest Planned Parenthood and protest abortion. More children are killed daily at an abortion clinic than in a school shooting. How about #marchfortheirlives and stop your bullshit. ." "Stop with your virtue signaling bullshit and DO SOME FUCKING RESEARCH." "FUCKING LIAR. This is the left for you. This is their poster child. Little shit. #Repost @northeast_gunfighter with @get_repost ・・・ Liars never accomplish anything. #liarliarpantsonfire #gunreform #guncontrol #2a #constitution #ar15 #assaultrifle #banassaultweapons #marchforourlives #marchforourguns" "No one else I’d rather cruise around Cartel-infested Mexican border towns with, all while drinking Tecate and screaming the lyrics to Christian Nodal’s “Adios Amor.” You’re the absolute love of my life. You are my everything. @john.eversforgeworks ." "lindsey.eversforgeworksStop the world and let me off. . . . . #oldschool #theduke #johnwayne #cowboyup #buckuporshutup #wordstoliveby #saynotoliberals #saynotosjws #socialjusticewarriors #thoughtcontrol #offended #triggered" "lindsey.eversforgeworksLet’s face it. Austin sucks. No real tacos, no real Texans, no real anything. Just go to California, you’ll get the same experience. ." "lindsey.eversforgeworksHappy Friday, ya bunch of red blooded, America loving patriots! May your weekend be as joyful as me going full auto ??? ." "lindsey.eversforgeworks@real_alexjones I've been crushing globalists since I was 19 ?? I started out in politics with Ron Paul and YAL and later did some campaigning for Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan (they turned out to be solid dudes LOL #regerts ?). Say what you will about Romney (trust me, I probably agree), but I was willing to do what it took to protect the Second Amendment against Barack Obama and his looney regime. To this day, I have political aspirations, but if you think Trump's mouth is bad, you haven't heard mine ???♀️?? • • • • • #meandron #ronpaul #libertarian #youngamericansforliberty #yal #college #university #babyface #crushingglobalists #globalists #globalistscum #antihillary #anticlinton #antileft #leftistregime #antihollywood #gunrights #secondamendment #pro2a #2a #freedom #liberty #politicalaf #ivealwaysbeenpolarizing #hurtingfeelingssince2009"
June 6, 20187 yr I don't doubt some of her claims about comments said to her. My girlfriend gets those too. Unfortunately some people in this neighborhood behave very rudely towards woman and make unwanted sexually explicit comments. As for witnessing drug deals and baggies of white powder changing hands on a daily basis... yeah, she's lying.
June 6, 20187 yr The first people to move back to the cities were artists, gays, and eccentrics. They didn't need guns to survive back when things were much more dangerous than they are now but somehow everyone who was cool in high school is still certain that they'll be attacked.
June 6, 20187 yr Other captions from her photos: "lindsey.eversforgeworks#WhyICarry part deux. Because this man fought for my right to do so. Also, because this is America and I won’t allow some tide pod eating child to determine what is allowed in my home. Wanna #marchforourlives ? Go to your nearest Planned Parenthood and protest abortion. More children are killed daily at an abortion clinic than in a school shooting. How about #marchfortheirlives and stop your bullshit. ." "Stop with your virtue signaling bullshit and DO SOME FUCKING RESEARCH." "FUCKING LIAR. This is the left for you. This is their poster child. Little shit. #Repost @northeast_gunfighter with @get_repost ・・・ Liars never accomplish anything. #liarliarpantsonfire #gunreform #guncontrol #2a #constitution #ar15 #assaultrifle #banassaultweapons #marchforourlives #marchforourguns" "No one else I’d rather cruise around Cartel-infested Mexican border towns with, all while drinking Tecate and screaming the lyrics to Christian Nodal’s “Adios Amor.” You’re the absolute love of my life. You are my everything. @john.eversforgeworks ." "lindsey.eversforgeworksStop the world and let me off. . . . . #oldschool #theduke #johnwayne #cowboyup #buckuporshutup #wordstoliveby #saynotoliberals #saynotosjws #socialjusticewarriors #thoughtcontrol #offended #triggered" "lindsey.eversforgeworksLet’s face it. Austin sucks. No real tacos, no real Texans, no real anything. Just go to California, you’ll get the same experience. ." "lindsey.eversforgeworksHappy Friday, ya bunch of red blooded, America loving patriots! May your weekend be as joyful as me going full auto ??? ." "lindsey.eversforgeworks@real_alexjones I've been crushing globalists since I was 19 ?? I started out in politics with Ron Paul and YAL and later did some campaigning for Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan (they turned out to be solid dudes LOL #regerts ?). Say what you will about Romney (trust me, I probably agree), but I was willing to do what it took to protect the Second Amendment against Barack Obama and his looney regime. To this day, I have political aspirations, but if you think Trump's mouth is bad, you haven't heard mine ???♀️?? • • • • • #meandron #ronpaul #libertarian #youngamericansforliberty #yal #college #university #babyface #crushingglobalists #globalists #globalistscum #antihillary #anticlinton #antileft #leftistregime #antihollywood #gunrights #secondamendment #pro2a #2a #freedom #liberty #politicalaf #ivealwaysbeenpolarizing #hurtingfeelingssince2009" Uh oh, now "those people" have found Instagram. Facebook better come up with another hillbilly-free social media platform so that they can hang onto advertisers besides Wal*Mart's.
June 6, 20187 yr I don't doubt some of her claims about comments said to her. My girlfriend gets those too. Unfortunately some people in this neighborhood behave very rudely towards woman and make unwanted sexually explicit comments. As for witnessing drug deals and baggies of white powder changing hands on a daily basis... yeah, she's lying. Like I said, depending on where you walk in OTR (even in the southern part) you can certainly see drugs deals on a daily basis. I'm not sure about exchanging baggies though. Usually they just give you bits out of the baggies. "Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago." - Warren Buffett
June 6, 20187 yr The only spot I ever saw drug deals with any regularity when living in OTR was Parvis alley just north of 15th street which I'm sure is now all gone with the construction that has happened since. I think I maybe once saw a drug deal happen down at the southern end of Goose Alley, but that was a one off situation. I lived in OTR for 2 years and probably saw a dozen or so drug deals go down. And from the bit I saw it was literally never bags of white powder, it was clearly weed.
June 7, 20187 yr ^ Most of it is weed. Years ago when I lived on Walnut and Liberty, that corner (and 15th Street where Mecca is now) was all crack. I had to call in what I assumed was an OD once, but unfortunately it was almost 8:00AM and the guy looked like he'd been there for hours. He was half wrapped around the old payphone that used to be by Grammer's. There was/is one of those big CPD cameras on top of Grammer's - I guess no one actively watches those, they just go back to review them if/when something happens.
June 7, 20187 yr If it's weed that's probably why the cops aren't motivated to do anything about it. City cops don't care about weed busts unlike some small towns.
June 7, 20187 yr A Cincinnati cop told me a while back that most of the street weed dealers know that possession under a certain amount is just a ticket, so they carry just enough on them at one time to not go over that amount. I had a friend who would stupidly buy weed or “loud” as the street dudes call it from corner guys in Walnut Hills and Coryville. They’d literally just give him like a handful at a time, and would probably overcharge the hell out of him. I always thought that was weird, but then I realized that scales and baggies can count as accessories to distribution. Intent to sell is a much bigger deal than merely possessing weed. Those guys are smarter than they look a lot of the time.
April 30, 20196 yr 2009: "Let's call this part of Vine Street 'the Gateway Quarter' instead of calling it 'Over-the-Rhine' so that people will feel safe coming here." 2019: "Let's call our new apartment tower in the Central Business District '1010 On The Rhine' to capitalize on the success and vibrancy of Over-the-Rhine. Let's also rehab Court Street so that some of OTR's vibrancy spills over into the CBD."
April 30, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, taestell said: 2009: "Let's call this part of Vine Street 'the Gateway Quarter' instead of calling it 'Over-the-Rhine' so that people will feel safe coming here." 2019: "Let's call our new apartment tower in the Central Business District '1010 On The Rhine' to capitalize on the success and vibrancy of Over-the-Rhine. Let's also rehab Court Street so that some of OTR's vibrancy spills over into the CBD." I miss the Gateway Urban Living Quarter. They're also naming a shop at CVG the "Over-the-Rhine Market" Now if we can just get a Chipelto in OTR
April 30, 20196 yr I'm waiting for some people's minds to explode when national chains begin opening up in OTR. I don't think 3CDC will go for it, but some of the projects by other developers (like Freeport Row) might be okay with their retail spaces being filled by Starbucks, Chipotle, Panera, etc.
April 30, 20196 yr 4 minutes ago, thomasbw said: They're also naming a shop at CVG the "Over-the-Rhine Market" I was at Kenwood Towne Centre about two years ago and saw a kiosk selling Over-the-Rhine merchandise.
April 30, 20196 yr 9 minutes ago, taestell said: I'm waiting for some people's minds to explode when national chains begin opening up in OTR. I don't think 3CDC will go for it, but some of the projects by other developers (like Freeport Row) might be okay with their retail spaces being filled by Starbucks, Chipotle, Panera, etc. If I remember correctly Steve Lepper of 3cdc mentioned in a news article that they would more than welcome an Apple Store in the urban core but stated that the urban core still lacks proper population density to lure any big retail fish like an Apple store... Which makes sense tbh.
April 30, 20196 yr I think 3CDC is okay with "upscale" national retailers, as they have already allowed Warby Parker and Bonobos. But I don't think they would allow any national fast casual or fast food chain in their retail storefronts.
April 30, 20196 yr Apple stores have gotten so big and they have such a regional draw and high turnover of customers that I have trouble seeing one work in an OTR-like neighborhood that's not at a major subway station or other significant transit node. I could see one at The Banks or maybe a downtown/OTR transition area like Court & Walnut or as a main tenant in a redeveloped Alms & Doepke, but probably not a central OTR address.
April 30, 20196 yr I honestly think that an Apple store would work very well downtown. You have to also factor in people who work downtown as well as companies who provide work phones to their employees that are Apple. If they have issues with them then they could just take them to the Apple store in downtown and otr instead of trudging all the way to kenwood.
April 30, 20196 yr I think an Apple store would do well along Central Parkway somewhere. The creatives in OTR could get there easily, and any office workers downtown could get there easily. Maybe in the Kroger building.
April 30, 20196 yr 36 minutes ago, Robuu said: Pittsburgh has an Apple Store in Shadyside. Right. I was thinking about that, and how there really isn't a comparable neighborhood in Cincinnati. Shadyside is kind of like if Hyde Park and Clifton were combined into one neighborhood. It's considerably denser than either of those two neighborhoods, and surrounded by other successful urban neighborhoods like Squirrel Hill, Oakland, and the newly gentrified East Liberty, so their business district has a pretty large 'catch basin' from which to pull in shoppers. I'm sure the demographics are more favorable there than just about any Cincinnati neighborhood. I'd love to see an Apple store go downtown or somewhere in OTR, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them expand to Rookwood before going downtown.
April 30, 20196 yr At a cursory glance Shadyside looks like Corryville or Northside, but with more contiguous surrounding fabric. Newport and Covington seem not too far off either.
April 30, 20196 yr Shadyside also has a rolex store, clothing retail like JCrew. I know Kenwood is the main focal point of retail in Cincinnati right now, but at some point we have to shift and develop a retail corridor downtown. Resturaunts, Bars, Clubs those are all great afternoon/night life destinations...but to make a 24/7 district I strongly believe you need a retail district that will target familes/teenagers/kids, etc Shopping is a great day time activity, especially for tourists and right now (outside of independent run small botique shops in otr) we have nothing to offer as a city for retail. I think that is something that really hurts us to some extent..it makes far too many people flock to the suburbs instead for their shopping needs and we need to collectively figure out how to reverse that. Cincinnati needs to feel luxery. It needs to feel rich. That's how you get attention. That's how you get tourists. Thats how you get international investors stop and go, "hmmm, maybe Cincinnati is actually a good target for my development team and a new 30 story luxery apartment high rise). I know, it goes beyond retail to make a city successful...it takes alot of factors. But right now, we need to focus on how to make cincy a destination city that goes beyond food and alcohol.
April 30, 20196 yr ^ @jjakucyk It's much more affluent than either Corryville or Northside. It has the large old apartment buildings buildings like you'd find off Ludlow in Clifton, some nice, big homes like you'd find in Clifton or Mt. Lookout (though on smaller lots and much more tightly packed), and some old mansions mostly clustered around 5th Ave, which is what much of the neighborhood looked like before these large lots got subdivided. I could mayyybe see a comparison to Northside in terms of building typologies, but I don't think Corryville has many similarities to Shadyside at all. Maybe Clifton and parts of Covington combined into one neighborhood-- idk what the right Cincy analogue would be, tbh. Edited April 30, 20196 yr by edale
April 30, 20196 yr DT Pittsburgh simply has a much stronger retail history than any Ohio city's. It was much more of a destination since Western PA didn't have a bunch of Mansfields, Springfields, Hamiltons and Middletowns to dilute things. Edited April 30, 20196 yr by GCrites80s
April 30, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, GCrites80s said: DT Pittsburgh simply has a much stronger retail history than any Ohio city's. It was much more of a destination since Western PA didn't have a bunch of Mansfields, Springfields, Hamiltons and Middletowns to dilute things. Also, Pittsburgh's topography makes Cincinnati seem like Columbus. The hills and ravines and such make things seem much further than they are, and the freeway network in Pittsburgh is pathetic compared to basically anywhere. So the concept of getting in your car and driving out to the burbs to visit the Apple store is much less appealing in a place like Pittsburgh than it is in Cincinnati. Also, that Apple Store has been there quite a while, and I wouldn't be surprised if the proximity to Carnegie Melon had something to do with it. When you have a major, UC size institution (Pitt), plus a small but incredibly well respected tech-centric school like CMU, plus a large, dense swath of affluent urban neighborhoods, one can see why Apple and other national retailers have chosen to locate in Shadyside.
April 30, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, GCrites80s said: DT Pittsburgh simply has a much stronger retail history than any Ohio city's. It was much more of a destination since Western PA didn't have a bunch of Mansfields, Springfields, Hamiltons and Middletowns to dilute things. I disagree. I doubt that Pittsburgh had any advantage over downtown Cleveland it its heyday, with four great department stores at one time. http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
April 30, 20196 yr Maryland Avenue looks just like Pullan Avenue. I didn't mean to imply anything regarding the demographics, mainly the built environment. The Walnut Street retail strip feels a lot like Hamilton Avenue in Northside to me, excepting the different street widths which actually makes it look more like St. Gregory in Mt. Adams. From the air, the density of Shadyside feels more Corryville and Northside-ish, certainly compared to Hyde Park.
April 30, 20196 yr 30 minutes ago, jjakucyk said: Maryland Avenue looks just like Pullan Avenue. I didn't mean to imply anything regarding the demographics, mainly the built environment. The Walnut Street retail strip feels a lot like Hamilton Avenue in Northside to me, excepting the different street widths which actually makes it look more like St. Gregory in Mt. Adams. From the air, the density of Shadyside feels more Corryville and Northside-ish, certainly compared to Hyde Park. A big difference between Cincinnati and Pittsburgh is the type of rocks used in stone foundations and retaining walls. Cincinnati's stone foundations and retaining walls and rock cuts are all crumbly plain-light grey. The bricks are not so different as Cincinnati vs. St. Louis, though.
October 15, 20195 yr I just got an Instagram ad for One Mercer Unit #402 which is on the market for $395,000. That unit last sold in 2014 for $345,900.
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