On 6/8/2020 at 8:54 AM, Cincinnatus said:

Nice, what part of Madisonville? We're on Adelphi.

my in-laws live on Adelphi!

On 6/13/2020 at 11:46 AM, climberguy714 said:

my in-laws live on Adelphi!

No way! Closer to Whetsel, Conant or Lucerne?

They live right by where lucerne intersects it. You might recognize my mother in law as the lady that walks around with Spirit, my five year old niece. I know they walk up and down the street alot.

Putting this in the oakley section since most of Hyde Plaza (of not all) is actually in Oakley. Drop by where the old Michaels store was today and noticed they are doing some major work on it. Crept online and saw that it will be a Marshalls. Interesting since there are two close-ish Marshalls stores in Norwood and Kenwood. 

^I believe that the rail line is the boundary between the statistical neighborhoods of Oakley and Hyde Park, though Wasson Road is the boundary between their community councils. So yeah Hyde Park Plaza is completely within Oakley and always has been. Just shows how much Oakley has changed within the last generation.

Guys, I heard that Habits was closing and moving to the Oakley laundromat. That was about a year ago.

 

Anyone know what's going on? Is this true? A no-go now? What's going on?

1 hour ago, Cincinnatus said:

Guys, I heard that Habits was closing and moving to the Oakley laundromat. That was about a year ago.

 

Anyone know what's going on? Is this true? A no-go now? What's going on?

Well news broke today that the owner also owns 21 century and he’s putting both up for sale. 

Graphite Oakley gets approval from Cincinnati City Council

 

Plans for a large, luxury apartment project in the Cincinnati neighborhood of Oakley are moving forward.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/08/11/graphite-oakley-gets-approval.html

 

^Details on that project starting on page 254 of the 17 July 2020 Planning Commission packet: https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/planning/about-city-planning/city-planning-commission/jul-17-2020-packet-1-of-2/

 

Looking at this latest development proposal (I'm glad to get 316 more apartments), and how it (like everything else in the vicinity) is surrounded by surface parking...  just makes me sick to my stomach at the thought of how much of an opportunity was missed with this whole development area (bounded by the railroad tracks, Marburg, and I-71). 

 

38 minutes ago, jwulsin said:

how much of an opportunity was missed with this whole development area (bounded by the railroad tracks, Marburg, and I-71). 

 

 

It's Glenway Crossings East.  At the very least they could have made provisions for a walking trail roughly following your red line.  

 

The real improvement would have been moving the railroad yard east of Ridge and putting the section between U.S. Playing Card and Ridge into a bored tunnel.  That would enable all of the local streets to connect from the Norwood Incinerator over to Mad Tree.  

 

 

Any chance that bridge over 71 that funneled into Milacron can be re-purposed as a mixed-use path to connect Disney to Harris?

16 hours ago, jwulsin said:

Looking at this latest development proposal (I'm glad to get 316 more apartments), and how it (like everything else in the vicinity) is surrounded by surface parking...  just makes me sick to my stomach at the thought of how much of an opportunity was missed with this whole development area (bounded by the railroad tracks, Marburg, and I-71). 

 

I actually think it looks a lot better now then it did a couple years ago.  Kroger and the movie theatre still have way too much parking, but they've filled in a lot of the other areas.  Where the crossroads annex was previously located has also filled in.  They still have two plots of land open for future office development next to Anthems building, but not sure when those are going to happen in today's climate.  Driving down Vandecar Way feels a lot more filled in and a lot less just like empty parking lots. 

 

Could they have done better?  Of course.  But it's at least nice to see them fill in some of the large parking lots/empty lots.  The north side of Disney St is still horrible.  

9 minutes ago, Cincy513 said:

They still have two plots of land open for future office development next to Anthems building

I don't know of the status, but those lots were planned to become a storage unit complex

56 minutes ago, Dev said:

I don't know of the status, but those lots were planned to become a storage unit complex

 lmao of course 

Oakley would have been an exponentially better location for where the Liberty Mall is now. 

 

Oakley has enough wealthy yuppies to fulfill a genuine retail corridor..so I'm not sure why some type of retail mall/center hasn't happened yet...

10 minutes ago, troeros said:

Oakley would have been an exponentially better location for where the Liberty Mall is now. 

 

Oakley has enough wealthy yuppies to fulfill a genuine retail corridor..so I'm not sure why some type of retail mall/center hasn't happened yet...

 

It did, like a mile away.

 

On 8/12/2020 at 12:51 PM, seaswan said:

 lmao of course 

Ugh, please tell me that's not true. there's already 2 or 3 down the street on Madison and Red Bank.

12 hours ago, climberguy714 said:

Ugh, please tell me that's not true. there's already 2 or 3 down the street on Madison and Red Bank.

There’s one already next to Anthem. I noticed it the other day and threw me off because it seemed to just pop up overnight. 

Small housing units plus lots of transplants equal lots of demand for storage units.

On 8/12/2020 at 9:13 AM, jmecklenborg said:

 

It's Glenway Crossings East.  At the very least they could have made provisions for a walking trail roughly following your red line.  

 

The real improvement would have been moving the railroad yard east of Ridge and putting the section between U.S. Playing Card and Ridge into a bored tunnel.  That would enable all of the local streets to connect from the Norwood Incinerator over to Mad Tree.  

 

 

This could have been Cincinnati’s version of Buckhead. Instead we got faux suburbia.

Not sure if this has been posted, but during the June Oakley Community Council meeting, there was a presentation about the proposed "Three Oaks Tunnel" which would provide a pedestrian/bike connection from 34th St under the train tracks to Disney/Vandercar. 

 

Some description of the project at starting at 1:52:05: https://drive.google.com/file/d/19EhvcovgaU3RE1TNU-VuX3Z5C1gd5pC2/view

 

At the August meeting, the Oakley Community Council voted to approve the use of $265k from Oakley TIF funds for the design of the tunnel. The final appropriation of TIF funds will have to be approved by City Council... I'm not sure timing on when that might happen. 

 

 

4 minutes ago, jwulsin said:

 $265k from Oakley TIF funds for the design of the tunnel

 

These pedestrian underpasses are ungodly expensive.  I predict $3.3 million.  

Yeah I feel like a nice bridge would be a lot cheaper then a tunnel 

I realize this is Oakley and not Chicago, but pedestrian tunnels are much more prone to being dark, creepy and smelling like pee too. Bridges don't need as much lighting and are 'self cleaning' every time it rains. 

17 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

These pedestrian underpasses are ungodly expensive.  I predict $3.3 million.  

Yeah, the estimated budget for the tunnel is around $7.25 million. They looked at a bridge as the first, obvious option... but it would have to be a tall bridge (providing at least 23' of clearance above the tracks) to allow for double-decker freight trains. And in order to get DOTE funding, it has to be ADA compliant, which would necessitate a massively long ramp. And there are electrical transmission lines on the north side of the tracks that make a a tall bridge and long ramp very difficult. 

 

32 minutes ago, jwulsin said:

Yeah, the estimated budget for the tunnel is around $7.25 million.

 

 

Wow, way worse than I thought.  

 

Aside from the high cost of all of the concrete and rebar (this will be a fairly lengthy pedestrian tunnel with fairly lengthy approaches), I imagine that they have to create a drainage system for the tunnel and that's where a ton of the expense comes from.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Neyer Properties’ $200 million Three Oaks residential project in Oakley starts demolition

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/09/29/neyer-properties-three-oaks-residential-project.html

 

Demo started, but what the article really gives us is Cranley pretending to drive machinery...

 

Oakley townhome project starts construction

 

A local developer who recently finished nearly 300 apartments in Madisonville is starting his next project in Oakley.

 

The RED Corner will add 19 townhomes in Oakley at the intersection of Madison Road and Ridge Avenue.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/11/20/oakley-townhome-project-starts-construction.html

 

^ The demo of the old Masonic Lodge already started. Not much was left 2 days ago and probably down to foundations by now.

23 hours ago, ColDayMan said:

Oakley townhome project starts construction

 

A local developer who recently finished nearly 300 apartments in Madisonville is starting his next project in Oakley.

 

The RED Corner will add 19 townhomes in Oakley at the intersection of Madison Road and Ridge Avenue.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/11/20/oakley-townhome-project-starts-construction.html

 

I wonder if the office portion in still a thing in the Madisonville portion of it. 

That rendering is apocalyptic.

Are there 7 different materials on this one building? Oy.

52 minutes ago, Chas Wiederhold said:

Are there 7 different materials on this one building? Oy.

I count 9, maybe there are more on the back so there is one material for each of the 19 units to BrEaK uP tHe FaCaDe. 

How long until those windows start leaking??? Looks like most of them do not have anything above them to reduce water runoff.

Those look like every other condo/luxury apartment building being built in Salt Lake City right now. Developers must be getting a discount on the design.

NIMBY HQ.

11 hours ago, zsnyder said:

NIMBY HQ.

That’s the OTR community council. Thankfully most people on this forum are all in for any kind of development in the city. 

13 hours ago, Ucgrad2015 said:

That’s the OTR community council. Thankfully most people on this forum are all in for any kind of development in the city. 

It was a crack about the yards in that rendering.

On 11/26/2019 at 10:46 PM, 7generations said:

1. Camden Homes Townhomes Update - The 3 homes along Edwards Rd at Hyde Park Ave have now been sold, and the new owner is the Camden Homes.  As they presented in May 2019, Camden is planning to build 8 owner-occupied townhomes called "Rookwood Place". The demolition process of those homes took place the week of 11/18, & Camden is looking to start construction in February.

A "Rookwood Place II LLC" has started demolition of SFH on Edwards next to the previous constructed "Rookwood Place" townhomes. 3908 Edwards Road has been demolished with 3906 and 3904 also slated for demolition. 3910 sits between the 2 sets of new construction and appears have been converted into a duplex in the past. 

See page 640 for a zone change of 3628-3640 Madison rd. For a Swenson and a commercial building.https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/planning/about-city-planning/city-planning-commission/dec-18-2020-packet/?fbclid=IwAR1ZyfdDDlQ3Oj339vlY7v9U5Se-PDg3pZYk9Ff__0iDsPq5PFD7Swakjss

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I think it's interesting that the retail will be "on" the street but the Swenson's will be set back. It also looks like the road will be widened there for a turn lane. It feels like this is yet another step towards turning Madison Road between the 2 Neighborhood Business Districts into a highway. Someone at my gym recently purchased one of those homes in the 3600 block so it will be interesting to ask him what he thinks about it.

I wish the opposite on Madison would happen. Especially between the railroad over-pass is by Madtree through the Ridge/Madison intersection. That stretch is a mess and extremely wide.

33 minutes ago, Dev said:

I think it's interesting that the retail will be "on" the street but the Swenson's will be set back. It also looks like the road will be widened there for a turn lane. It feels like this is yet another step towards turning Madison Road between the 2 Neighborhood Business Districts into a highway. Someone at my gym recently purchased one of those homes in the 3600 block so it will be interesting to ask him what he thinks about it.

 

 A setback is kind of Swenson's thing since they are an eat-in-your-car place.

Oh for sure, I get what they do, it just feels like a weird mismatch between the buildings

Always hate to lose buildings fairly close to the street (in this case SFH) for something with a 60+ foot setback.

2 hours ago, wjh2 said:

I wish the opposite on Madison would happen. Especially between the railroad over-pass is by Madtree through the Ridge/Madison intersection. That stretch is a mess and extremely wide.

I’d like to see the area around Madison bowl get some life but that’ll be hard to do with the topography and the potential for flash floods (as the sign on madison states) 

9 minutes ago, Ucgrad2015 said:

I’d like to see the area around Madison bowl get some life but that’ll be hard to do with the topography and the potential for flash floods (as the sign on madison states) 

Actually, you never know! At a recent Community Council meeting, someone asked about Madison Bowl because apparently it was listed for sale? Also around the bend, 4999 Madison Road continually has property tax issues. Last year, the LLC behind The Red complex bought the home next door at 4989 Madison as well, so they might be waiting to redevelop that lot. At 3.75 acres, it would be quite the opportunity to really add some density there.

5 hours ago, Dev said:

I think it's interesting that the retail will be "on" the street but the Swenson's will be set back. It also looks like the road will be widened there for a turn lane. It feels like this is yet another step towards turning Madison Road between the 2 Neighborhood Business Districts into a highway. Someone at my gym recently purchased one of those homes in the 3600 block so it will be interesting to ask him what he thinks about it.

There is no trustee on the OCC Board who advocates for more density.   Developer of this block between Kennedy and Little Duck Creek originally offered 3 proposals for this block, one of which had a significant quantity of apartments (density) - 50 or so, I think. The trustees showed no interest in supporting that option.  The Oakley Master Plan (finished in 2018 or was it 19) states no interest in increasing multi-family residences.  The preference is owner-occupied SFHs.  No renter, not even renters of single fam houses.  Somewhat related, the trustees also never advocate for affordable housing.

 

There was also no trustee opposition to Swenson’s which will definitely increase vehicle traffic and will decrease walkability because you won’t be able to walk up to Swensons and eat there on site, although there’s some talk about a picnic table being provided, which will work only on Goldilocks weather days.  Sheesh.

 

To be clear, the attitude is not just of the members of the Board of Trustees - there are very very few residents or business owners who actively, politically advocate for greater density and certainly not for renters nor for affordable housing in Oakley.  

Edited December 17, 20204 yr by 7generations
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15 minutes ago, 7generations said:

There is no trustee on the OCC Board who advocates for more density.   Developer of this block between Kennedy and Little Duck Creek originally offered 3 proposals for this block, one of which had a significant quantity of apartments (density) - 50 or so, I think. The trustees showed no interest in supporting that option.  The Oakley Master Plan (finished in 2018 or was it 19) states no interest in increasing multi-family residences.  The preference is owner-occupied SFHs.  No renter, not even renters of single fam houses.  Somewhat related, the trustees also never advocate for affordable housing.

 

There was also no trustee opposition to Swenson’s which will definitely increase vehicle traffic and will decrease walkability because you won’t be able to walk up to Swensons and eat there on site, although there’s some talk about a picnic table being provided, which will work only on Goldilocks weather days.  Sheesh.

 

To be clear, the attitude is not just of the members of the Board of Trustees - there are very very few residents or business owners who actively, politically advocate for greater density and certainly not for renters nor for affordable housing in Oakley.  

Yup, that definitely reinforces what I have seen on social media from other Oakley residents. It's sad that people want to chip away at small pocket communities, instead of wanting to support them. If Ididn't know better, I'd think there was a plan to kick out all residential between Oakley Square and the Madisonville business district.