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On 5/4/2024 at 12:01 PM, Ucgrad2015 said:

This building is up for lease. Would be a great spot for an apartment building. 

 

 Is that the building that used to house a Springdale Cleaners location?

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    Not the best photo but was at the light and looked over and noticed how nice the Aglamesis space looks like completed.

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    For sure. I didn't mean to imply that anyone other than Norwood is responsible for Norwood's bad urban planning decisions.     This is reasonable on its surface but when extrapolated

  • folks - can we try to focus on Oakley development here?

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Huh, TIL that was a thing

The city, and most of the country, has a shortage of housing but please instead of building out the site with condos and apartments for humans lets focus on building fully climate controlled spaces for some rich asshole's car. I hate this on every level.

While I am not the target market for this product due to my income level it does suck to have a car as a hobby without having to live in an unwalkable Applebee's hell with only senior citizens as neighbors. Seems like the market only supplies no-garage Prewar, controlled mass garages where you're not allowed to work on your own car and squiggly subdivisions where you can have a garage but the nearest business of any type is two miles away.

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On 5/4/2024 at 12:01 PM, Ucgrad2015 said:

This building is up for lease. Would be a great spot for an apartment building. 

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Between Richards Industrial and the dry cleaners that was on site I imagine this parcel is very contaminated. Ideal situation would be for the Port to take it over and apply for Brownfields funds and clean up the property.

...and then acquire the adjacent Hyde Park Plaza and redevelop this suburban mistake into a walkable, urban, mixed-use development!

Most of Oakley wasn't designed to be walkable which makes it tougher. It was designed for streetcar dependence. 

5 hours ago, GCrites said:

Most of Oakley wasn't designed to be walkable which makes it tougher. It was designed for streetcar dependence. 

The Hyde Park Plaza area is quite walkable, if you subtract the actual Hyde Park Plaza, so I'm not sure what this comment means.

Take a look at Marburg Ave on a map for example. The roads extending it are all cul-de-sacs rather than a grid system despite being built before WWII. There is little in the way of time saving cut-through paths. You can't cut through the park. Let's now try to get to Oakley Square from the park. Nope, cut off by Courtyard Apartments. Have to take the long way on Taylor and Markbreit. How about walking from Hyde Park Plaza to the Square? Bad idea, no usable East-West roads, everything is north and south only. How about from North Oakley? Not enough E/W roads, only N/S again. So you want to go somewhere east of the Square on Madison but now you are going NE back up to the exact latitude you started from. So when you leave you have to go south to go north again. The streetcar companies didn't want people to be able to walk places that well. A lot of good urban areas were built before the streetcar companies existed and development around the turn of the 20th century saw some influence by the streetcar companies. That's why areas that should ostensibly have good walkability because they are "old" actually aren't.

 

In Columbus, Clintonville is an example of this phenomenon. Not enough cross streets with long hauls of residential only. Pull up a map of Clintonville and see how long you have to walk E/W between N/S cross streets.

I lived at the end of Alicemont Ave. When I wanted to walk to Hyde Park Plaza I couldn't just cut straight through to Kilbourne Ave and go south to the Plaza because I had to walk the other way to Marburg then backtrack down Claramont to get to Kilbourne. It took too long and was demoralizing so I just drove. Getting to the Square sucked. I had to walk north on Marburg, then SW on Paxton, NW on Taylor then zigzag on Markbreit. Other times I would be on Markbreit, go NW on Gilmore then SW again on Madison.

If it took too long to get from Alicemont to HPP, then we have different definitions of walkable.

I kid a little, but fair point, given it's right next to the Plaza. 

 

I lived across from St Cecilia in the 90s and walked almost everywhere. Never had any business on Alicemont, though.

10 hours ago, GCrites said:

Most of Oakley wasn't designed to be walkable which makes it tougher. It was designed for streetcar dependence. 

 

Fun Fact: back in 1912, the city planned to build a subway station beneath Edwards Ave. at Hyde Park Square.  In 1916, that detail was dropped from the announced route of the approved Rapid Transit Loop.  But in 1922, with the loop u/c, the commission chose to modify the Norwood/Oakley routing to add a previously unplanned station at Madison Rd. just south of the B&O tracks.  Land was secured to build along this alignment but no construction took place.  So if the rest of the project had been funded, this forced the hand of the more extravagant circa-1912 alignment,  with a return of the Hyde Park Square subway station AND a subway station beneath Oakley Square, with a transition to elevated somewhere between the square and the Madison Rd. station just northeast of Brazee St. 

 

 

 

11 hours ago, zsnyder said:

If it took too long to get from Alicemont to HPP, then we have different definitions of walkable.

I kid a little, but fair point, given it's right next to the Plaza. 

 

I lived across from St Cecilia in the 90s and walked almost everywhere. Never had any business on Alicemont, though.

 

The real problem is that fences prevented me from getting straight to Kilbourne from Alicemont.

 

St. Cecilia would be a much better starting place to get to the good stuff.

13 hours ago, GCrites said:

I lived at the end of Alicemont Ave. When I wanted to walk to Hyde Park Plaza I couldn't just cut straight through to Kilbourne Ave and go south to the Plaza because I had to walk the other way to Marburg then backtrack down Claramont to get to Kilbourne.

I lived on Claramont for 7 years and loved how easy it was to walk to Hyde Park Plaza. Many of the streets have cut throughs (Glenhurst, De Forest, Maple Crest, Ameliamont), but it's a shame that the other side streets (Sterling, Alicemont, Everson) don't all have easy pedestrian cut throughs. 

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Plans for Oakley luxury car condos nixed for now

 

Neyer Properties, which wants to put condos for luxury and rare automobiles at a major Oakley housing development, withdrew that proposal after the Cincinnati Planning Commission appeared poised to vote it down Friday, June 21.

 

The developer planned to put 31 two-story car condos on part of its Three Oaks project at 4477 34th Ave. The Torque Car Condos would be located south of a set of railroad tracks and Enyart Avenue, which runs parallel to them, and north of Iron Oak Avenue. They would provide a buffer from single-family homes being built nearby, according to the developer.

 

The climate-controlled, fully customizable, 1,200-square-foot condominium suites are billed as a second home for cars and valuables. Neyer Properties envisions they could also be used as a place to connect with other car lovers, work remotely or entertain friends.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2024/06/21/neyer-car-condos-oakley-planning-commission-vote.html

 

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Even better, a covered climatized 1 and 1/2 mile oval track with personalized viewing seats and private entrances straight onto the track would really set the condo in a league of its own. why settle for some when you can have it all. sunday! sunday! sunday!

On 6/23/2024 at 2:38 PM, ColDayMan said:

Plans for Oakley luxury car condos nixed for now

 

Neyer Properties, which wants to put condos for luxury and rare automobiles at a major Oakley housing development, withdrew that proposal after the Cincinnati Planning Commission appeared poised to vote it down Friday, June 21.

 

The developer planned to put 31 two-story car condos on part of its Three Oaks project at 4477 34th Ave. The Torque Car Condos would be located south of a set of railroad tracks and Enyart Avenue, which runs parallel to them, and north of Iron Oak Avenue. They would provide a buffer from single-family homes being built nearby, according to the developer.

 

The climate-controlled, fully customizable, 1,200-square-foot condominium suites are billed as a second home for cars and valuables. Neyer Properties envisions they could also be used as a place to connect with other car lovers, work remotely or entertain friends.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2024/06/21/neyer-car-condos-oakley-planning-commission-vote.html

 

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Glad these got nixed for now. I’m not opposed to these but the current rendering looks to be cheap even though they are starting in the $300,000 range. I’d much prefer a nice brick exterior. 

Gorilla Cinema, Curo team up to open Oakley Greens, with mini golf, a food hall and bar

By Christian LeDuc – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier

Jun 25, 2024

 

An indoor and outdoor entertainment venue, bar and food hall is officially opening at full capacity this Saturday following more than two-and-a-half years of construction.

Oakley Greens is situated on about 3 acres of land in the southwest corner of the Oakley Station development at 3065 Vandercar Way.

 

The more than 20,000-square-foot facility has two bars, a stage, two cabanas that can be rented out for private parties, two 18-hole miniature golf courses, a kids play area, a restaurant, an ice cream parlor and a merch shop.

 

It’s another collaboration between the development group Curo Brkg, which is led by Josh Niederhelman, and bar operator Gorilla Cinema, which operates the Lonely Pine Steakhouse, Tokyo Kitty and Cosmic Gorilla, among other concepts. The two previously collaborated on Covington Yard, which was opened by Curo and is operated and programmed by Gorilla Cinema.

 

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Gorilla Cinema, Curo team up to open Oakley Greens, with mini golf, a food hall and bar

By Christian LeDuc – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier

Jun 25, 2024

 

An indoor and outdoor entertainment venue, bar and food hall is officially opening at full capacity this Saturday following more than two-and-a-half years of construction.

Oakley Greens is situated on about 3 acres of land in the southwest corner of the Oakley Station development at 3065 Vandercar Way.

 

The more than 20,000-square-foot facility has two bars, a stage, two cabanas that can be rented out for private parties, two 18-hole miniature golf courses, a kids play area, a restaurant, an ice cream parlor and a merch shop.

 

It’s another collaboration between the development group Curo Brkg, which is led by Josh Niederhelman, and bar operator Gorilla Cinema, which operates the Lonely Pine Steakhouse, Tokyo Kitty and Cosmic Gorilla, among other concepts. The two previously collaborated on Covington Yard, which was opened by Curo and is operated and programmed by Gorilla Cinema.

 

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Went there the second week they were open. The mini golf was not yet open, but I loved the space. TVs all around and some were large. 

On 5/17/2024 at 11:06 AM, ucgrady said:

The city, and most of the country, has a shortage of housing but please instead of building out the site with condos and apartments for humans lets focus on building fully climate controlled spaces for some rich asshole's car. I hate this on every level.

Context matters.

 

Like where you responded with no apparent thought/mention to things like the location of the proposed condos (along active train tracks);


or the total lack buyers having any interest in buying homes in that section (going back 5 years);


or that there will still be 90+ homes going in the designated SF section;


or that there will be 350+ multi-family units going in the adjacent section;


or how there will be a 300 unit senior living facility going in adjacent to the multi-family section;


or the 124 townhomes going in just the other side of the tracks;


or the 320+ apartments going in at the old cast fab site;


or that Oakley only one of a few neighborhoods that added housing from 2010 to 2020;


or that Oakley continues to add housing and mixture of density at a rate higher than most neighborhoods.

I think Oakley has earned the right to be able to make the best decisions, often compromises, when it comes to managing the growth while trying to maintain some of the character & integrity (that we can control). We've done more than our share to add housing, we shouldn't have to comprise more just for the sake of others.

Can't wait to see the reaction when folks hear that Oakley is hosting 2025 Homerama. In Three Oaks.

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15 hours ago, jag said:

I think Oakley has earned the right to be able to make the best decisions, often compromises, when it comes to managing the growth while trying to maintain some of the character & integrity (that we can control). We've done more than our share to add housing, we shouldn't have to comprise more just for the sake of others.

To be clear, I never said the city shouldn't allow them to build the car garage things, the market can figure out if this is something that would even be successful and to your point its right next to the train tracks so the lots aren't very desirable for homes/condos. I just said I hated it on every level, and I will always hate the fetishizing and obsession that people have with cars/motorcycles and this proposal just seemed like the ultimate version of that. 

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On 7/1/2024 at 9:53 AM, ucgrady said:

To be clear, I never said the city shouldn't allow them to build the car garage things, the market can figure out if this is something that would even be successful and to your point its right next to the train tracks so the lots aren't very desirable for homes/condos. I just said I hated it on every level, and I will always hate the fetishizing and obsession that people have with cars/motorcycles and this proposal just seemed like the ultimate version of that. 

But your opening sentence was pretty close to what the asst. city manager said in the planning commission hearing, which strongly inferred you favored housing vs car condos. That’s what I was reacting to.

On 7/1/2024 at 2:56 PM, GCrites said:

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Not really new, just very infrequent/sporadic user.🤷‍♂️

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Hills Properties completes first building at $59M Graphite Oakley site

By Brian Planalp – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier

Aug 21, 2024

 

Interior construction is complete on the first building at Graphite Oakley, located on the site of the former Milacron foundry at Oakley Station.

 

The development, which carried a $59 million price tag as of 2022, will deliver 316 upscale apartments across five buildings when work wraps up early next year.

 

Blue-Ash based Hills Properties, the developer, declined to disclose an updated project cost.

 

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Aglamesis Oakley Wins 2024 Cincinnati Preservation Excellence Award

 

https://cincinnatipreservation.org/aglamesis-brothers-rwa-architects/

 

In 2024 RWA Architects won their sixth Preservation Excellence Award from Cincinnati Preservation. This time in the Commercial Project category for their work on the façade improvements to the Oakley location of Aglamesis Brothers candy and ice cream store. 

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Car condos are back. Looking a lot better this time around, but still would prefer more housing. 

On 9/13/2024 at 12:17 PM, Ucgrad2015 said:

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Car condos are back. Looking a lot better this time around, but still would prefer more housing. 

It passed, unanimously. 

Car condos in Oakley? City acts on latest plans for proposed Neyer development

 

The Cincinnati Planning Commission unanimously approved a proposal by Neyer Properties for car condos at a major Oakley housing development, allowing people to store their luxury and rare automobiles in individual spaces.

 

Neyer plans to build 31 two-story car condos in front a rail yard bordering the Three Oaks project at 4477 34th Ave. The Torque Car Condos would be located south of a set of railroad tracks and Enyart Avenue, which runs parallel to them, and north of Iron Oak Avenue.

 

The planning commission held the proposal at a June meeting, with the city requesting that Neyer consider whether housing could be built at the site instead. But Neyer views the car condos as a necessary buffer from single-family homes being built nearby, said the company’s executive vice president for development, Chris Dobrozsi.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2024/09/23/neyer-car-condos-oakley-planning-commission-vote.html

 

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Eastside Rec Center Grand Opening Ceremony & Open House

 

The grand opening will be Monday January 6th, 2025, starting at 3:00pm with all the appropriate speakers, and then a 3:30pm ribbon cutting. The Open House/programs will run from 4-6pm.

The Oakley Community Council will host it's first meeting in the new facility Tuesday, January 7th, 7pm. This be a great opportunity to:

  • Tour new facility: see the new facility if not able to get the open house
  • 2025 Major Project Announcements: learn about & discuss our 2025 major projects
  • Free pizza!

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Man, I'm really not a fan of this style of architecture.

That would look bad after a few years of '70s/'80s-style acid rain.

On 9/23/2024 at 10:25 AM, ColDayMan said:

The planning commission held the proposal at a June meeting, with the city requesting that Neyer consider whether housing could be built at the site instead. But Neyer views the car condos as a necessary buffer from single-family homes being built nearby, said the company’s executive vice president for development, Chris Dobrozsi.

 

I'm quite confused as to how something that amounts to finished out small warehouses is a "buffer" to single family housing? Feels like the financial backing for the project pushed for this when they saw how much a car collection facility charged them to store their vehicles.

 

What's next, A heliport and hangers to buffer from the rail yard?

On 6/23/2024 at 2:38 PM, ColDayMan said:

Neyer Properties envisions they could also be used as a place to connect with other car lovers, work remotely or entertain friends.

 

"Hey guys, come on over to the car condo and watch the big game."

We live in hell. 

12 hours ago, RealAdamP said:

I'm quite confused as to how something that amounts to finished out small warehouses is a "buffer" to single family housing? Feels like the financial backing for the project pushed for this when they saw how much a car collection facility charged them to store their vehicles.

 

What's next, A heliport and hangers to buffer from the rail yard?

They were getting virtually no interest from buyers for the lots adjacent to the railroad tracks. I don't really care much either way about these, but they are better than nothing being there. There are car condos in Blue Ash and they are pretty popular nationally.

I'm more concerned about the lack of interest from those in the senior care facility world for the space in the overall development that such a facility was planned for. Had a company lined up pre-covid, has since backed out and not much movement there recently.

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Eastside Rec Center Ribbon Cutting & Open House

CRC has rescheduled this event for Tuesday, 14 January 3-6 PM

Oakley residents can get an early look at the facility by attending the Oakley Community Council January meeting, tonight at 7 PM, in the new facility.

Meeting Agenda.

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Former Cast-Fab site project gets new developer

 

A 7.6-acre townhome development in Oakley at the former Cast-Fab manufacturing site will have a new developer after the Cincinnati Planning Commission approved a modification to the plan.

 

The planning commission approved proposed development and subdivision improvement plans for the second phase of the project Feb. 7. The townhomes will be for sale.

 

Cristo Homes originally was the developer slated for the project at 3033 Jared Ellis Drive, but now, Indianapolis-based Onyx + East has a purchase contract with the owner, Local Oakley LLC. Onyx + East declined further comment other than to confirm its involvement.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2025/02/13/oakley-townhome-cast-fab-new-developer-onyx-east.html

 

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awww. choo-choo train themed. looks like it's no longer in danger of being derailed.

5 minutes ago, zsnyder said:

awww. choo-choo train themed. looks like it's no longer in danger of being derailed.

Actually genius, if anyone complains about train noises the HOA can just say it's part of the theme/charm. 

3 hours ago, zsnyder said:

awww. choo-choo train themed. looks like it's no longer in danger of being derailed.

f'd up some visualizations with the street name changes...something about a hard days night...🤪

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I'll be interested to see how owners maintain and use the common green spaces. I hope those green spaces become attractive, inviting spaces that residents actually use. 

 

Just for comparison's sake, the density of this project in Oakley is 15.7 units per acre (119 units on 7.58 acres). The recently completed townhouse project in Madisonville is roughly 18.9 units per acre (20 units on 1.06 acres). 

 

1 hour ago, jwulsin said:

I'll be interested to see how owners maintain and use the common green spaces. I hope those green spaces become attractive, inviting spaces that residents actually use. 

 

Just for comparison's sake, the density of this project in Oakley is 15.7 units per acre (119 units on 7.58 acres). The recently completed townhouse project in Madisonville is roughly 18.9 units per acre (20 units on 1.06 acres). 

 

There will be a HOA that takes care of the common areas. Attached are the landscaping plans.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Developer breaks ground on luxury car condos at $100M East Side development

 

A Cincinnati developer has broken ground on car condos in on of Cincinnati’s most popular neighborhoods.

 

Neyer Properties April 8 announced it had begun construction on its Torque Motor Suites product beside Oakley’s Three Oaks development, a $100 million residential community on 31 acres along Robertson Avenue.

 

Torque Motor Suites Oakley is designed to be integrated into the residential neighborhood according to the developer.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2025/04/09/neyer-properties-car-condos-torque-suites-oakley.html

 

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HEADS UP: 4 Way Stop on Robertson! 31st & Robertson.

 

The city of Cincinnati will be installing a 4 way stop at: 31st & Robertson, as a way to start slowing down traffic on Robertson. We had asked for 2 sets to be installed, but they want to see how effective before adding a second set (at 34th & Robertson). So be on the watch for these signs to be installed (within next 2 weeks).

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Townhome development to break ground on former Cast-Fab site at Oakley Station

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A rendering of Onyx + East's townhome community slated for the former Cast-Fab Technologies site at Oakley Station.

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By Brian Planalp – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier

May 30, 2025

An Indianapolis developer will begin work in a matter of months on a large new townhome community on Cincinnati’s East Side following a land transaction that closed in recent days.

Onyx + East, with Charleston, S.C-based Maymont Homes as its financing partner, closed May 20 on 5 acres at the former Cast-Fab Technologies site in Oakley Station.

The land is located at 3033 Jared Ellis Drive between the CSX-owned railroad to the south and Hills Properties’ Graphite apartments to the north.

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