April 7, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, marty15 said: These need a front porch of some sort. This building looks very secure. Like a jail.
April 7, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, KJP said: I like the 7-story building too, but the rooftop needs some kind of deck spaces considering that it overlooks Edgewater Park. There’s a Rooftop deck on top of the 6th floor on the southeast side. It’s a walkout from the 7th floor.
April 7, 20223 yr 20 hours ago, ExPatClevGuy said: Can someone explain the image of a ghost-tree* over the roofs of the townhouses? It's clear to me that no *tree will ever grow there, and especially not a glorious *tree of that size and shape. It's kind of a fraud that the proposal image would have any hint of a *tree there. I guess it's to fool folk who only give these images a passing glance and to give viewers an impression that this building facade offers anything but the lowest possible design quality & site planning, along the Lake Ave frontage. The ghost tree represents an existing tree at the corner of the lot that is being retained. I assume they just made it translucent so you could see the building in the render. The resident feedback was to save trees so the developer is planning to keep the trees around the perimeter of the property.
April 9, 20223 yr On 2/24/2022 at 10:30 AM, KJP said: REVEALED: planned upper-Edgewater Park housing By Ken Prendergast / February 24, 2022 Conceptual plans for a potentially transformative development were revealed yesterday for an aging industrial district overlooking upper Edgewater Park. The plans were presented to stakeholders living and working in Cleveland’s Cudell neighborhood. Their reaction? Mostly positive. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2022/02/24/revealed-planned-upper-edgewater-park-housing/ I screwed up. This isn't in Cudell/West Boulevard. It's just east of it by a few feet. Any chance we can get these posts -- starting with the one I quoted here -- moved to Detroit-Shoreway/Battery Park @X or @MayDay? Or, maybe we might have to come up with a new thread/name for this area that's along the lake but between Cudell and Battery Park to account for this and *other* projects coming up. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 9, 20223 yr I screwed up. This isn't in Cudell/West Boulevard. It's just east of it by a few feet. Any chance we can get these posts -- starting with the one I quoted here -- moved to Detroit-Shoreway/Battery Park [mention=117]X[/mention] or [mention=10]MayDay[/mention]? Or, maybe we might have to come up with a new thread/name for this area that's along the lake but between Cudell and Battery Park to account for this and *other* projects coming up.I did think that was odd figured it was here because Cudell and Detroit Shoreway combined into Northwest Neighborhoods CDC so at this point they’re semi-synonymous. Is it also possible this area is considered Edgewater neighborhood? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
August 4, 20222 yr Just received a letter that the CVS at Madison Ave and West Blvd is closing. I guess not surprising as I rarely saw many customers there.
August 4, 20222 yr 3 hours ago, Cleburger said: Just received a letter that the CVS at Madison Ave and West Blvd is closing. I guess not surprising as I rarely saw many customers there. CVS is closing 300 stores and, I believe, just keeping the "health hubs" which the West Blvd/Lorain store is considered. CVS has been visibly pumping no money into the Madison store for a while now so I figured this was coming eventually. Still a massive inconvenience for a lot of people, though. On the bright side, it's not allowed to be a dollar store. I would ideally love a small-format market/grocery store. Might not be the market for a Trader Joes but the intersection does have a lot of daily commuters and there is decent parking (as much as I hate to type those words). Also, the existence of the drive through could potentially facilitate a successful coffee operation (again, for the commuters). I wouldn't advocate something relying on car commuters get built, but since the building already exists in this form might as well use it. Edited August 4, 20222 yr by jws
August 21, 20222 yr On 9/8/2021 at 2:56 AM, inlovewithCLE said: I feel where you’re coming from, but that’s not gonna happen. You’re talking about some of the most prominent/influential people within the city limits living here. And this isn’t new money. This is old money. Which has deeper and more longstanding connections to folks in power. What they want is gonna happen and what they don’t want is not gonna happen. We all know that. Those who have the gold make the rules. 🤷♂️ Quote "If the Metroparks and county redouble their efforts to develop the shoreline with an all-purpose trail and lake erosion protection, and these Edgewater/Lake characters fight that too, then I would hope the Metroparks don't give up so easily and instead use eminent domain to do what needs to be done. " Quote Or they could just let that portion of the lakefront erode; maybe the owners change their minds when they realize they're literally losing land due to their own ignorance. ___ It didn't happen. https://www.cleveland.com/news/2022/02/5-new-lakefront-projects-led-by-cuyahoga-county-cleveland-metroparks-gain-support-accelerating-drive-to-open-up-shoreline.html Also a key difference with the erosion on Edgewater... the property owners pay for and keep up with their own erosion mitigation out-of-pocket through revetment, fill, drainage projects, etc. There's no erosion crisis threatening the homes. There was no way that they could be bought off by promises to have that paid for by government (a la Euclid). Not a value trade off for the owners. Edited August 21, 20222 yr by dergon darkhelm
October 25, 20222 yr Affordable apartments planned at RTA station By Ken Prendergast / October 25, 2022 An Indianapolis-based real estate developer is seeking to build affordable apartments just west of the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority’s (GCRTA) West Boulevard-Cudell rapid transit station on land owned by the transit authority. Today, the GCRTA Board approved giving that developer, Flaherty & Collins LLC, an option to purchase the land for the development of 60 to 80 apartments. The option, priced at $5,000, gives the developer site control so it can nail down financing and city approvals over the next year. If the developer needs more time, RTA can extend the option for another year for another $5,000. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2022/10/25/affordable-apartments-planned-at-rta-station/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 25, 20222 yr Fingers crossed on this. As a kid l used to live in one of those apartments on West Blvd. We used to "hop" the rapid all the time to go downtown. Never did get caught. Interesting that the developer is the same one doing Cedar hill and also the Cedar Lee Meadowbrook projects. Gives me encouragement that they will be able to pull this off. TOD is way under built in this town.
May 19, 20232 yr Six local housing projects win tax credits By Ken Prendergast / May 18, 2023 Six housing developments in Cuyahoga County won federal Low-Income Housing Tax Credits (LIHTCs) yesterday from the Ohio Housing Finance Agency (OHFA), improving their chances of seeing construction in the near future. Those projects and 23 others elsewhere around the state received conditional LIHTC commitments. Developers will use those awards to leverage additional financing in the creation or rehabilitation of rental housing for low- to moderate-income Ohioans. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/05/18/six-local-housing-projects-win-tax-credits/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 19, 20232 yr Of all the projects that won LIHTC awards this week, the Depot on Detroit is my favorite. Not only is it near where I live, but it's one of those developments that was built because of its proximity to a rail station. While I wouldn't call the project TOD, given its lack of mixed use and presence of a surface parking lot, every RTA rail station needs to have at least one 60-unit apartment building next door to them. If not tens of such apartment buildings. So this is a good next step, following on the likes of Aspen Place, Mayfield Station, Intro, Waterford Bluffs, and more. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 19, 20232 yr Very excited about this one! I think this project will also be a great proof-of-location and encourage a second, larger project on the main RTA lot sooner rather than later. While the surface lot is unfortunate, I think it's reasonable that it could be developed eventually. Additionally, lessons from Aspen Place have shown that it isn't completely unwarranted, at least initially, since the spatial mismatch between affordable housing and jobs has put some Aspen Place residents in a position where they aren't using GCRTA to get to their jobs so they are clashing over parking, and if the Depot was to rely on street parking then it puts that in conflict with the bike lane. I wouldn't mourn the loss of the lot, but the fact it exists, is out of sight, and isn't removing any density from the area has me feeling alright. I would have preferred a parking agreement with RTA to use their existing lot, though. Hopefully the continued increase of residents around the station encourages more commercial uses of the existing buildings, which are proving hard to fill because of white boxing and buildout costs. Edited May 19, 20232 yr by jws
October 13, 20231 yr Depot on Detroit plans at RTA station unveiled By Ken Prendergast / October 13, 2023 Conceptual plans for a new apartment building to be located just west of the West Boulevard rapid transit station in Cleveland’s Cudell neighborhood were submitted to the city this week. Called the Depot on Detroit, it’s the latest in a series of new apartment buildings planned, under construction or built recently near stations on Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority (GCRTA) rail and bus rapid transit lines. These transit-oriented developments are intended to address poverty by shrinking the spatial disconnect between jobs and job-seekers caused by urban sprawl. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/10/13/depot-on-detroit-plans-at-rta-station-unveiled/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 13, 20231 yr Depot on Detroit plans at RTA station unveiled By Ken Prendergast / October 13, 2023 Conceptual plans for a new apartment building to be located just west of the West Boulevard rapid transit station in Cleveland’s Cudell neighborhood were submitted to the city this week. Called the Depot on Detroit, it’s the latest in a series of new apartment buildings planned, under construction or built recently near stations on Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority (GCRTA) rail and bus rapid transit lines. These transit-oriented developments are intended to address poverty by shrinking the spatial disconnect between jobs and job-seekers caused by urban sprawl. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/10/13/depot-on-detroit-plans-at-rta-station-unveiled/Seeing a site plan for a development with the intention of encouraging transit ridership includes a 1:1 parking layout shows how far this city has to go with its zoning and more importantly their parking requirements. I do like that they will offer free transit passes and the overall building design but that site plan looks so bizarre when you realize the intent of this building. Sent from my Pixel 8 Pro using Tapatalk
October 17, 20231 yr On 10/13/2023 at 4:57 PM, MyPhoneDead said: Seeing a site plan for a development with the intention of encouraging transit ridership includes a 1:1 parking layout shows how far this city has to go with its zoning and more importantly their parking requirements. I do like that they will offer free transit passes and the overall building design but that site plan looks so bizarre when you realize the intent of this building. Sent from my Pixel 8 Pro using Tapatalk Exactly. 1:1 Parking should be heavily discouraged on TOD projects.
November 6, 20231 yr Would be great if this spurred the completion of the Chicle development across the street. https://x.com/clecityplanning/status/1721178708776460581?s=46&t=-ApuSKXOhKYOFRRl1ySrew
December 22, 20231 yr https://thelandcle.org/stories/depot-on-detroit-apartments-will-bring-affordable-housing-and-easier-public-transit-access-to-cudell/ we love to see it
February 25, 20241 yr Heard a rumor that a developer wants to put a gas station at the CVS property at West Blvd & W. 101st (i.e. SW corner of Cudell Park). Apparently this is against the pedestrian retail overlay zoning now in place, not to mention just a plain horrible use of this parcel. If true, hopefully the zoning puts a stop to this.
February 25, 20241 yr A developer has also wanted to tear down the abandoned Burger King and build a car wash at Detroit and Lake. But that has been pushed back too. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 26, 20241 yr 19 hours ago, KJP said: A developer has also wanted to tear down the abandoned Burger King and build a car wash at Detroit and Lake. But that has been pushed back too. There are so many car washes in the area now. Every time I look around, someone is building another. Even if this were an attractive use for this property (which it's not), there can't be a big enough market for all these car washes.
February 26, 20241 yr Maybe they're taking Breaking Bad too seriously. From my understanding those are not the best ways for money laundering.
February 26, 20241 yr Just like the many used car dealerships along Lorain? Some of them have been busted for laundering drug dealers' money. Unless they do get busted, it's very hard to get them redeveloped. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 1, 20241 yr For those interested, the gas station variance request is in front of the BZA on Monday. It is now too late to submit comment, but anyone can attend in person or watch the livestream. https://planning.clevelandohio.gov/bza/cpc.html Unfortunately, this parcel falls into the weird sliver of Ward 11 that cuts through Cudell and Ward 15. The Ward 11 Councilmember, Danny Kelly, supports the gas station use. Ward 15 Councilmember, Jenny Spencer, opposes the use.
March 15, 20241 yr Couldn’t find an Edgewater neighborhood thread but noticed last week that the Horton Harper Tudor project started site clearing at 9803 lake Ave
March 15, 20241 yr 22 minutes ago, BoomerangCleRes said: Couldn’t find an Edgewater neighborhood thread but noticed last week that the Horton Harper Tudor project started site clearing at 9803 lake Ave Might have been initially mentioned in the Cudell thread. Are there renderings of that anywhere? I can't seem to find any.
March 15, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Cleburger said: Might have been initially mentioned in the Cudell thread. Are there renderings of that anywhere? I can't seem to find any. It’s from 2-3 years ago I think I’ll try to find it
March 15, 20241 yr 21 minutes ago, Cleburger said: Might have been initially mentioned in the Cudell thread. Are there renderings of that anywhere? I can't seem to find any.
March 15, 20241 yr the above was last approved on 1/21/22, the current design is so much better than the original from 2020:
April 29, 20241 yr Update from Jenny Spencer's assistant (though not in her ward) about the proposed gas station on the old CVS property at Madison and West Blvd. I am reaching out to share an important reminder about the gas station proposal at the former CVS property at 10022 Madison Ave (Madison Ave & West Blvd). REMINDER: The gas station proposal at the former CVS property at 10022 Madison Ave (BZA Calendar No. 24-024) will be on the May 6th, 2024 BZA Agenda. I (Joe Naser) will be in attendance at the meeting in person to represent the Ward 15 Council office. We encourage residents to express their views on the proposal in either written form or verbally at the meeting (which will be hybrid in-person/virtual). Please be advised: Feedback is due to BZA by 12PM on Friday, May 3. The agenda item is Calendar No. 24-024. Please cite this number in your correspondence. If you have already submitted a letter, we recommend reaching out to [email protected] and confirm that your letter remains on record. If you would like to speak at the BZA meeting, please indicate so when emailing [email protected] or calling 216-664-2580. If you would like the Webex link to attend virtual and speak, please also request this link [email protected]. Please cc: Councilmember Jenny Spencer ([email protected]) and Neighborhood Planner Nate Lull ([email protected]). Please share this information with any and all who are interested in this case. If you have questions, feel free to contact me at 216-664-4235 or at [email protected]. You can also contact the Board of Zoning Appeals (BZA) [email protected] or at 216-664-2580.
May 6, 20241 yr Just finished watching that part of the meeting because as I was skipping through it sounded pretty contentious so I was intrigued lol. Damn were people riled up about replacing a 3 year long closed CVS.
May 6, 20241 yr 57 minutes ago, dwolfi01 said: Just finished watching that part of the meeting because as I was skipping through it sounded pretty contentious so I was intrigued lol. Damn were people riled up about replacing a 3 year long closed CVS. It’s been closed less than a year
May 7, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, bumsquare said: It’s been closed less than a year sorry in the BZA meeting video I heard someone say it was closed for 3 years with no offers to develop anything else.
May 20, 20241 yr Cleveland-area affordable housing wins financing By Ken Prendergast / May 20, 2024 While only one proposed affordable housing development in Cuyahoga County was awarded the coveted 9 percent Low Income Housing Tax Credits (LIHTC) from the state, four others in the county got conditional approval, putting them in a good position to get financing in the near future. All five developments, if built, would add 247 total units of affordable housing in the county. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/05/20/cleveland-area-affordable-housing-wins-financing/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 22, 20241 yr A good chunk of the old industrial complex on West 117th, across from Staples is being demolished.
May 22, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, marty15 said: A good chunk of the old industrial complex on West 117th, across from Staples is being demolished. This was in front of Cleveland Planning Commission a couple of months ago (4/5). Welded Ring Product Co. provided this reasoning for the demolition:
May 22, 20241 yr When I saw it in front CPC, I was worried they were going to also take down the brick office building fronting West 117. Looks like that's not coming down. Or at least I hope not! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 22, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, KJP said: When I saw it in front CPC, I was worried they were going to also take down the brick office building fronting West 117. Looks like that's not coming down. Or at least I hope not! Yeah, it looks like that building will stay. The highlighted ones are slated for demolition.
May 22, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, KJP said: When I saw it in front CPC, I was worried they were going to also take down the brick office building fronting West 117. Looks like that's not coming down. Or at least I hope not! The b Reilly supportive housing building?
May 22, 20241 yr Cleveland’s Denison Manor may get rehabbed By Ken Prendergast / May 22, 2024 An historic apartment building set near one of the west side’s most important intersections is proposed to get a major renovation by its new owner. The Denison Manor Apartments, 3206 W. 100th St. in Cleveland’s West Boulevard neighborhood, could get its interiors completely rebuilt to offer larger, more marketable, subsidized apartments. But work reportedly began without securing the proper permits and the city ordered the work halted. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/05/22/clevelands-denison-manor-may-get-rehabbed/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 31, 20241 yr On 5/22/2024 at 2:32 PM, KJP said: Cleveland’s Denison Manor may get rehabbed By Ken Prendergast / May 22, 2024 An historic apartment building set near one of the west side’s most important intersections is proposed to get a major renovation by its new owner. The Denison Manor Apartments, 3206 W. 100th St. in Cleveland’s West Boulevard neighborhood, could get its interiors completely rebuilt to offer larger, more marketable, subsidized apartments. But work reportedly began without securing the proper permits and the city ordered the work halted. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/05/22/clevelands-denison-manor-may-get-rehabbed/ TBH I think rehabbing these types of buildings throughout the city in this manner would be a FANTASTIC option to create a large inventory of truly affordable apartments.
June 3, 20241 yr On 3/15/2024 at 7:12 PM, BoomerangCleRes said: the above was last approved on 1/21/22, the current design is so much better than the original from 2020: The site clearing on this is now well underway as they have torn down the garage on the old house and also starting excavation on the vacant lot next to it.
July 17, 2024Jul 17 Despite Objections From City Planning, Councilman Danny Kelly Goes to Bat for Proposed Gas Station on Vacant CVS Property
July 17, 2024Jul 17 I'm really confused why this is such a contentious issue. I've only read about this on and off in passing really and it seems people really want an abandoned building to stay there. Any reason why? Not like there's 3 gas stations there already that I could see. Really I checked google maps and didn't see any close at all. Sounds like a good idea unless I'm missing something.
July 17, 2024Jul 17 Allow a gas station, but make them build the retail spaces in front and put the pumps around back.
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