February 7, 20205 yr 8 minutes ago, bumsquare said: Lots of bad land use on Madison, but the housing stock in the 80s/90s off Madison is actually really good. I’m a relatively pessimistic fellow but I could easily see this area turning around in the next 20 years. A few new apartment complexes facing Madison would really change the feel of the street. It’s relatively narrow as far as main streets go in Cleveland. There have always been (very very well hidden) artistic venues in and around this area. I think it’s already seen as a viable, cheaper alternative to Detroit Shoreway for some younger folks. Good lord 20 years....I'm not pessimistic by nature, just overall angry that I'll likely be dead by then lol.
February 7, 20205 yr The growth west down Lorain and Detroit gives this area promise. Cleveland Lumber, can’t beat the service. Not only will they deliver what you need, they carry it in from the street. I use them for everything.
February 7, 20205 yr Sidenote, I’m guessing Cleveland Lumber’s main building was a theater at one point. Can any of you dig up pics?
February 7, 20205 yr 7 hours ago, marty15 said: Sidenote, I’m guessing Cleveland Lumber’s main building was a theater at one point. Can any of you dig up pics?
February 7, 20205 yr ^Dont be surprised when this neighborhood starts to take off in about 5 years or so. I am actually pretty confident in this statement because I was originally someone who was very down on this area too. I was looking for investment properties and chose to invest further south towards Lorain/Denison in an expectation that area would be first to pick up. Ironically, I’m seeing more renovations further north in cudell, so I’ll fully admit, I may have been wrong on this one... that said, the potential of the Lorain/Denison built environment still has me patiently optimistic because it’s such a beautiful strip!
February 7, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, bumsquare said: Wow. First I’ve seen this. What a cool facade. Thanks!
February 7, 20205 yr Every time this thread becomes active again I climb up on my soap box so strap in, everyone. I concur with the group that this permit appears to be a retroactively filed one. They painted the building and put wood siding over the blocked-in ground level windows? It doesn't look...any worse, I guess. But the boards aren't even finished with trim at the end so you can see the raw edges butting up against the brick. Fingers crossed that someone is looking to do a full rehab of the thing. Regarding the neighborhood changing, Cudell has already had some pretty dramatic market shfits within the past two years. The median sale price for January was 118k and there were six sales, which is crazy considering real estate prices prior to the past year. The biggest change I've noticed are all of the investors popping out of nowhere, both from NEO and elswhere (exhibit A: https://ibuysh*tholehouses.com/). Holton-Wise signs are popping up more, two houses on W100 between Marietta and Madison are now full-time AirBnBs, and investors are doing things like selling properties between each other for 100k after holding on to them for a few months and doing hack job renovations (in one house the doors didn't close because they used the wrong hinges. It was very bad). My main point is that speculators have already descended on the neighborhood but it may not appear that way to someone just passing through along Madison. It's usually only visible once the damage is done and all of the refugee families have been replaced by open-concept flips with those grey wood grain vinyl peel-and-stick floors from Home Depot. Excluding investor/speculators from the mix, the neighborhood has a few very strong nodes in terms of more sustainable investment, stability, minimal to no crime, etc. The primary ones are West Blvd/W101/W100, W93/Willard and some of the small single-block streets around West Tech, and W87/89/91 between Sauer and Madison. It would be wonderful to see people who actually care about the neighborhood and its history invest in Cudell. There are a lot of really intricate networks of refugees and immigrants in the neighborhood alongside homeowners who have been here since the 1940s. IMO one of the biggest strengths of Cudell is that it's where a family can still find a decent 3 bedroom house on a relatively quiet street for under 800/mo. I'm more willing to sacrifice visible "improvement" by Investor Bob from Staten Island if it means maintaining a functional community. But seriously if anyone wants a meaningful neighborhood tour please let me know. I've heard rumors (unsubstantiated so far) that the infill development around West Tech may be completed by a new developer. Regarding land use on Madison, it's actually overwhelmingly the same as it was in the 1950s (including most of the buildings). The street was never the commercial heart of the neighborhood and, in a way, it's nice to know that we haven't lost that much. The densest commercial area was the area around Cleveland Lumber. A few buildings have been lost between W98 and W96, but that was because of a fire a few years ago. I stole this photo from Facebook that shows the area around W98. The large apartment building burned and took with it the few little commercial buildings to its right, but otherwise all of these buildings are still standing:
February 7, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, YO to the CLE said: that said, the potential of the Lorain/Denison built environment still has me patiently optimistic because it’s such a beautiful strip! IMO Lorain Station is the best commercial district on the west side. I want to see it thrive SO BADLY. Fingers crossed no more buildings are demolished for PaRkInG
February 7, 20205 yr ^Agreed. More intact than Gordon Square and W 25th were IMO. I definitely share your sentiments about this area. I've seen renovations going on, but a lot of them are speculators doing crap work. That whole area of Cudell/West Blvd is at a cross roads I feel. I'd love to see the storefronts filled in and the historic structures better maintained, and I think we can absolutely do it here without displacing the diversity that makes this neighborhood great...The problem is, I don't think the political representation here has the know-how to support that happening organically, so what's going to happen is exactly what we are seeing now. EDIT: I guess to clarify, I want to see a little bit more wealth come in and "discover" the neighborhood because there are absolutely some long term crap landlords and owners who have let their properties fall into disrepair who need to go, and I think a slight uptick in the neighborhood's wealth will help to fill the storefronts. However, I don't want to see the great people who already call the neighborhood home and maintain their properties pushed out by investors. There is a way to accomplish this from a political level using code enforcement and incentives, but I don't see the representation doing that here. Hope that provides more clarity to my above statement. Edited February 7, 20205 yr by YO to the CLE Additional Clarification
February 7, 20205 yr 12 minutes ago, YO to the CLE said: EDIT: I guess to clarify, I want to see a little bit more wealth come in and "discover" the neighborhood because there are absolutely some long term crap landlords and owners who have let their properties fall into disrepair who need to go, and I think a slight uptick in the neighborhood's wealth will help to fill the storefronts. However, I don't want to see the great people who already call the neighborhood home and maintain their propertie Your point is totally clear! I agree. The owner of Cleveland Lumber is a great steward of the neighborhood. He's renovated the commercial block at W98/Madison and has been great about making the storefronts accessible to unique businesses. Unfortunately, the Edna Boutique couldn't make it, but it's really exciting to see Outlandish Press, the hand-made sign place, and now Print Camp (t-shirt press, I believe) all right in a row. I'm a big proponent of using more businesses like these to activate the storefronts because I think it would create a really unique area that also avoids some of the more traditional conflicts that result from just jamming in a few bars and saying you've made a new entertainment district, which is unfortunately how a lot of leadership seems to view "revitalization."
February 7, 20205 yr I lived on 93rd for a year and a half (just moved out into Ohio City). I'm also in agreement that this neighborhood is going to start seeing significant development in the next 5 years. The housing stock is surprisingly serviceable, and there are plenty of 3 bed houses that just need updating to modern fixtures and they would then become great rentals or first homes for buyers. It's still a little rough around the edges, and there are a few drug houses that need to go, but beyond that it's got great bones. I think it's one of the best neighborhoods for value in the city right now.
February 7, 20205 yr 12 hours ago, bumsquare said: Lots of bad land use on Madison, but the housing stock in the 80s/90s off Madison is actually really good. I’m a relatively pessimistic fellow but I could easily see this area turning around in the next 20 years. A few new apartment complexes facing Madison would really change the feel of the street. It’s relatively narrow as far as main streets go in Cleveland. There have always been (very very well hidden) artistic venues in and around this area. I think it’s already seen as a viable, cheaper alternative to Detroit Shoreway for some younger folks. As an aside (related to housing stock condition), I attended CSU in the early 90's as an east side kid from the burbs. I dated a west burbs girl all through college who had lots of friends living in this neighborhood, which in the early 90's was still very much a solid working class neighborhood, not unlike West Park. We used to frequent the little bars on Madison for cheap drinks before heading out downtown.
February 7, 20205 yr 4 hours ago, jws said: Every time this thread becomes active again I climb up on my soap box so strap in, everyone. I concur with the group that this permit appears to be a retroactively filed one. They painted the building and put wood siding over the blocked-in ground level windows? It doesn't look...any worse, I guess. But the boards aren't even finished with trim at the end so you can see the raw edges butting up against the brick. Fingers crossed that someone is looking to do a full rehab of the thing. Regarding the neighborhood changing, Cudell has already had some pretty dramatic market shfits within the past two years. The median sale price for January was 118k and there were six sales, which is crazy considering real estate prices prior to the past year. The biggest change I've noticed are all of the investors popping out of nowhere, both from NEO and elswhere (exhibit A: https://ibuysh*tholehouses.com/). Holton-Wise signs are popping up more, two houses on W100 between Marietta and Madison are now full-time AirBnBs, and investors are doing things like selling properties between each other for 100k after holding on to them for a few months and doing hack job renovations (in one house the doors didn't close because they used the wrong hinges. It was very bad). My main point is that speculators have already descended on the neighborhood but it may not appear that way to someone just passing through along Madison. It's usually only visible once the damage is done and all of the refugee families have been replaced by open-concept flips with those grey wood grain vinyl peel-and-stick floors from Home Depot. Excluding investor/speculators from the mix, the neighborhood has a few very strong nodes in terms of more sustainable investment, stability, minimal to no crime, etc. The primary ones are West Blvd/W101/W100, W93/Willard and some of the small single-block streets around West Tech, and W87/89/91 between Sauer and Madison. It would be wonderful to see people who actually care about the neighborhood and its history invest in Cudell. There are a lot of really intricate networks of refugees and immigrants in the neighborhood alongside homeowners who have been here since the 1940s. IMO one of the biggest strengths of Cudell is that it's where a family can still find a decent 3 bedroom house on a relatively quiet street for under 800/mo. I'm more willing to sacrifice visible "improvement" by Investor Bob from Staten Island if it means maintaining a functional community. But seriously if anyone wants a meaningful neighborhood tour please let me know. I've heard rumors (unsubstantiated so far) that the infill development around West Tech may be completed by a new developer. Regarding land use on Madison, it's actually overwhelmingly the same as it was in the 1950s (including most of the buildings). The street was never the commercial heart of the neighborhood and, in a way, it's nice to know that we haven't lost that much. The densest commercial area was the area around Cleveland Lumber. A few buildings have been lost between W98 and W96, but that was because of a fire a few years ago. I stole this photo from Facebook that shows the area around W98. The large apartment building burned and took with it the few little commercial buildings to its right, but otherwise all of these buildings are still standing: Side note it is amazing how fast cities around the country went downhill after the 1950s. It makes me a little sad.
February 7, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, MyPhoneDead said: Side note it is amazing how fast cities around the country went downhill after the 1950s. It makes me a little sad. It shows how fragile cities are. And it takes so much longer to rebuild them. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 11, 20205 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 26, 20205 yr Just got word from multiple sources that Amazon has leased the entire warehouse that was build on the corner of 110th and Berea Road. Heard that construction of the 2nd warehouse on that lot will start not to long after they move in.
March 27, 20205 yr FRIDAY, MARCH 27, 2020 Amazon to add hundreds of jobs on Cleveland's West Side Three sources confirm that e-commerce giant Amazon has agreed to occupy a large new warehouse on Cleveland's West Side and ultimately build out the rest of the site with more distribution facilities. The sources spoke off the record because they weren't authorized to speak publicly about the deal. By the end of this year, Amazon will put at least 100 jobs into Madison Industrial Park with more jobs to follow. It will start by retrofitting and occupying a 168,750-square-foot building constructed last year at 10801 Madison Ave. Amazon will lease the building from developer and owner Weston Group. DiGeronimo Companies' Independence Construction was the building contractor. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/03/amazon-to-add-hundreds-of-jobs-on.html Edited March 27, 20205 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 27, 20205 yr 33 minutes ago, KJP said: FRIDAY, MARCH 27, 2020 Amazon to add hundreds of jobs on Cleveland's West Side Three sources confirm that e-commerce giant Amazon has agreed to occupy a large new warehouse on Cleveland's West Side and ultimately build out the rest of the site with more distribution facilities. The sources spoke off the record because they weren't authorized to speak publicly about the deal. By the end of this year, Amazon will put at least 100 jobs into Madison Industrial Park with more jobs to follow. It will start by retrofitting and occupying a 168,750-square-foot building constructed last year at 10801 Madison Ave. Amazon will lease the building from developer and owner Weston Group. DiGeronimo Companies' Independence Construction was the building contractor. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/03/amazon-to-add-hundreds-of-jobs-on.html Just realized how close this location is to both the West Blvd. and W.117 RTA Red Line rapid stations. Hopefully this works out for all parties involved! Edited March 27, 20205 yr by ytown2ctown
March 27, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, ytown2ctown said: Just realized how close this location is to both the West Blvd. and W.117 RTA Red Line rapid stations. Hopefully this works out for all parties involved! I've been concerned for a while about the mixed-use building across the street from that RTA. Has there been any signs of life there recently? Would be great to see that bar reopen, it was nothing fancy but it was perfectly okay and had a great patio. It certainly looked like a "demolition by neglect" property for a time.
March 27, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, ytown2ctown said: Just realized how close this location is to both the West Blvd. and W.117 RTA Red Line rapid stations. Hopefully this works out for all parties involved! It's 0.43 miles from the doors of the West 117th station and 0.52 miles from the doors of the West Boulevard station. So almost midway between them. And there's the 24-hour #81 and #26 bus routes, plus the #25 on Madison and the #78 on West 117th. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 27, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, surfohio said: I've been concerned for a while about the mixed-use building across the street from that RTA. Has there been any signs of life there recently? Would be great to see that bar reopen, it was nothing fancy but it was perfectly okay and had a great patio. It certainly looked like a "demolition by neglect" property for a time. Yes, the owner Almico Properties has been selling off some their properties and putting money into this mixed-use building. The work hasn't been lightning speed, but I have seen them occasionally working. This is going to be a hot intersection in the coming years. ? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 27, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, KJP said: Yes, the owner Almico Properties has been selling off some their properties and putting money into this mixed-use building. The work hasn't been lightning speed, but I have seen them occasionally working. This is going to be a hot intersection in the coming years. ? I've noticed the windows on the rear side are boarded up, so I've been worried about it. I'm hoping you are right and we don't end up with the gas station that was planed for there a few years back.
March 27, 20205 yr On 3/27/2020 at 4:56 PM, freefourur said: I've noticed the windows on the rear side are boarded up, so I've been worried about it. I'm hoping you are right and we don't end up with the gas station that was planed for there a few years back. Every so often when the window boards are off, you can see the exposed studs (should I have said exposed vertical joists??) inside the building. So they have ripped out interior walls and are in the process of putting new ones in. BTW, Almico LLC is Koristantinos Almiroudis. His company offices are at 11829 Detroit Ave. (middle storefront just east of the Cleveland Clinic family medical center). Edited April 1, 20205 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 29, 20205 yr On 3/27/2020 at 2:26 PM, KJP said: FRIDAY, MARCH 27, 2020 Amazon to add hundreds of jobs on Cleveland's West Side Three sources confirm that e-commerce giant Amazon has agreed to occupy a large new warehouse on Cleveland's West Side and ultimately build out the rest of the site with more distribution facilities. The sources spoke off the record because they weren't authorized to speak publicly about the deal. By the end of this year, Amazon will put at least 100 jobs into Madison Industrial Park with more jobs to follow. It will start by retrofitting and occupying a 168,750-square-foot building constructed last year at 10801 Madison Ave. Amazon will lease the building from developer and owner Weston Group. DiGeronimo Companies' Independence Construction was the building contractor. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/03/amazon-to-add-hundreds-of-jobs-on.html Updated the article with a little bit more info. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 1, 20205 yr TUESDAY, MARCH 31, 2020 Calming traffic at RTA station key to developing area The revitalization of Cleveland's Detroit-Shoreway neighborhood continues to spread west. To the north, Edgewater Park and its healthy namesake neighborhood have improved in recent years. And to the west, Lakewood has seen Greater Cleveland's fastest-growing real estate prices along with new housing development. In between all of this is a left-behind area surrounding the West Boulevard-Cudell rapid transit station and Cudell Recreation Center. But that could start changing thanks to a planning effort underway by the Westown Community Development Corp. called the West Boulevard-Detroit Avenue Neighborhood Plan. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/03/calming-traffic-at-rta-station-key-to.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 1, 20205 yr ^Hopefully someday we can see a proper multi-modal transit station there - Commuter Rail and Detroit Ave Streetcar to complement the Red Line station and local bus routes. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
April 1, 20205 yr 9 hours ago, Boomerang_Brian said: ^Hopefully someday we can see a proper multi-modal transit station there - Commuter Rail and Detroit Ave Streetcar to complement the Red Line station and local bus routes. I’m puzzled by how this one off comment generated way more reaction than the detailed Cleveland transit plans I laid out a few days ago. Maybe people aren’t checking the transportation thread? Anyway, if you liked this comment, check out these proposals: When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
April 1, 20205 yr I don't think many forumers even *know* that there's a transportation thread, let alone care. But hopefully they'll care enough about improving station-area public realms like streets, parking, sidewalks, safe bike routes and parks to turn them from car sewers into more people friendly settings. The Berea/West Blvd/Detroit area screams for this treatment. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 1, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, KJP said: I don't think many forumers even *know* that there's a transportation thread, let alone care. But hopefully they'll care enough about improving station-area public realms like streets, parking, sidewalks, safe bike routes and parks to turn them from car sewers into more people friendly settings. The Berea/West Blvd/Detroit area screams for this treatment. Agree completely. Perhaps my favorite of your many excellent ToD proposals was the suggestion on redoing the southeast corner of Lakewood to take advantage of the W117 station. There is so much potential around so many existing Rapid stations. Hopefully we see more Market Square / Intro type stuff around them. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
April 1, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, Boomerang_Brian said: Agree completely. Perhaps my favorite of your many excellent ToD proposals was the suggestion on redoing the southeast corner of Lakewood to take advantage of the W117 station. Stay tuned. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 1, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, KJP said: But hopefully they'll care enough about improving station-area public realms like streets, parking, sidewalks, safe bike routes and parks to turn them from car sewers into more people friendly settings. The Berea/West Blvd/Detroit area screams for this treatment. I hope for the best, but fear the worst. I had reached out to the city about the dangerous traffic patterns on West Blvd between Madison and Detroit. There is no reason for that to be 2 lanes either direction, especially when West Blvd goes down to 1 lane each direction south of Madison (with parking and bike lane added). I had suggested reducing this section to one lane each direction with a center turn lane and the response from the city was "we never did that because we would have to scrape the lines off the pavement." Not exactly inspiring. Of course, we're also talking about a stretch of road sits next to a muddy, unpaved vacant lot (former apartment building) that Westtown CDC owns, and is currently being used by The Palazzo restaurant for employee parking on busy nights (prior to the COVID19 shutdown).
April 1, 20205 yr There's a new councilman and Westown has a relatively new director. I'm very pleased that Westown has chosen to pursue this and recognize what is the biggest hindrance to developing the area around the rapid station and rec center. As they often say, recognition of the problem is the first step to solving it. Since municipalities determine land uses in their jurisdictions, and if this plan gets approved by planning commission, it will allow the city, CDC, NOACA, ODOT, RTA, etc. to pursue funding to implement that plan. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 14, 20205 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 5, 20205 yr The Palazzo restaurant on Detroit is looking to expand their parking lot onto the space where the apartment building was demolished a couple years ago. The appointed councilman Brian Mooney spoke in support of the project. All I'll say about his "support" is, that area needs better representation. I hope somebody credible runs when his term ends. Councilman Matt Zone spoke again against the parking lot and bemoaned the process to de-landmark the building to get it demolished. We need more in city council like him. http://clevelandohio.gov/sites/default/files/planning/drc/agenda/2020/CPC-Agenda-WebEx-meeting-060520.pdf 1. FW2020-xxx - Palazzo Restaurant Parking Lot Expansion Project Address: 10031 Detroit Avenue Project Representative: Katherine Holmok, Environmental Design Group
June 5, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, Mendo said: The Palazzo restaurant on Detroit is looking to expand their parking lot onto the space where the apartment building was demolished a couple years ago. The appointed councilman Brian Mooney spoke in support of the project. All I'll say about his "support" is, that area needs better representation. I hope somebody credible runs when his term ends. Councilman Matt Zone spoke again against the parking lot and bemoaned the process to de-landmark the building to get it demolished. We need more in city council like him. http://clevelandohio.gov/sites/default/files/planning/drc/agenda/2020/CPC-Agenda-WebEx-meeting-060520.pdf 1. FW2020-xxx - Palazzo Restaurant Parking Lot Expansion Project Address: 10031 Detroit Avenue Project Representative: Katherine Holmok, Environmental Design Group They've been using it as a parking lot all along--just parking in the grass. I think Westown CDC owns the land. You would think they would want to do something more productive with that prime parcel.
June 5, 20205 yr If i remember correctly, someone was interested to fix the apartment up. Dona Brady wanted it as a parking.
June 5, 20205 yr Just now, viscomi said: If i remember correctly, someone was interested to fix the apartment up. Dona Brady wanted it as a parking. That's correct. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 5, 20205 yr ^ Exactly. In response to Zone lamenting the demolition, Mooney insisted the building was falling down and a danger to the neighborhood, with no potential buyers so it had to come down. Like i said the neighborhood needs better leadership.
June 8, 20205 yr On 6/5/2020 at 4:24 PM, Mendo said: ^ Exactly. In response to Zone lamenting the demolition, Mooney insisted the building was falling down and a danger to the neighborhood, with no potential buyers so it had to come down. Like i said the neighborhood needs better leadership. That area will almost certainly revert to being Ward 15 (or whatever replaces Ward 15, assuming we lose a ward or two) because Dona Brady's house no longer needs to be in the ward. As a fun reminder of what these boundaries currently look like:
June 25, 20204 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 25, 20204 yr There is alot of construction activity at the parcel on 110th st and Berea. This is where they built the large warehouse. It looks like they are prepping the site for the next warehouse.
June 26, 20204 yr Mini NEOtrans bomb coming later tonight. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 27, 20204 yr Sorry for the delay. Kept finding new info....... Thanks again to @tykaps for helping! FRIDAY, JUNE 26, 2020 Permit confirms new West Side warehouse to be for Amazon A permit was filed June 10 with the City of Cleveland's Building & Housing Department for the retrofit of an existing warehouse, to be used as an Amazon distribution and delivery station at Madison Industrial Park on Cleveland's West Side. And based additional information posted with the permit today, the facility will accommodate hundreds of new jobs. The permit listing doesn't immediately give away information that the fit-out of the 168,750-square-foot building at 10801 Madison Ave. is for the E-commerce giant Amazon. But architectural drawings for the entire 21.6-acre site, added today as an attachment to the public record, certainly do give away the reason for the building permit. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/06/permit-confirms-new-west-side-warehouse.html This from earlier today along West 110th.... So is this, but from West 106th.... And here's an interior build-out and truck/van parking plan I didn't include with the article. The office portion is at upper left, truck docks at lower left, van station to lower-center/right, public areas to the top, and conveyor systems in the rest of the building..... Edited June 27, 20204 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 27, 20204 yr Awesome news, thanks for breaking it! I'm totally ok with the elimination of the two other originally planned warehouses if it means (as evidence seams to indicate) this first one is going to have many more jobs than was the originally imagined. As much as I am still not a fan of Amazon for many reasons, their recent raising of their minimum wage to $15 an hour means these are at least semi-decent jobs, and they are being added right in the middle of a neighborhood which can use them.
September 3, 20204 yr There's now a petition circulating against demolishing the Cudell orchard for development. Not sure if anyone's up on that
September 3, 20204 yr Who owns the property?https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2011/08/cudell_campaign_bears_fruit_fo.html
September 3, 20204 yr Eh, I'm sure that the people behind the orchard are well intentioned, but I can't help but think that orchards and sunflower fields aren't really the best use of urban land, especially along a main street. Build a mixed use building there, and save some agriculture land out in Avon or Brunswick from becoming another vinyl sided nightmare.
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