December 6, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, Mov2Ohio said: Large crane being assembled in the middle of Prospect Ave today in front of 700 Prospect. Whole street is shut down between 9th and 4th What project is this for?
December 6, 20231 yr 6 minutes ago, simplythis said: What project is this for? Since it is in front of 700 Prospect I would imagine it is being used (for some reason) for K &D's renovation of the building into apartments. Former United Church of Christ HQ. Edited December 6, 20231 yr by Htsguy
December 6, 20231 yr Oops, meant to post in the gateway mega parking lot thread... ps that crane was definitely for UCC building. Edited December 6, 20231 yr by GISguy
January 10, 20241 yr Fencing is down around UCC site, must mean interior demo is complete? ...disregard my crappy framing on this one, just missed the top of the cornice!
January 10, 20241 yr I've long been under the impression that the arches on the third floor are not original to the building. They look wrong and somehow cheap to me. Anyone have a good historic image of this building from an earlier age? I'll bet it will look smart with three floors of large rectangular glass.
January 11, 20241 yr 15 hours ago, ExPatClevGuy said: I've long been under the impression that the arches on the third floor are not original to the building. They look wrong and somehow cheap to me. Anyone have a good historic image of this building from an earlier age? I'll bet it will look smart with three floors of large rectangular
January 11, 20241 yr 16 hours ago, ExPatClevGuy said: I've long been under the impression that the arches on the third floor are not original to the building. They look wrong and somehow cheap to me. Anyone have a good historic image of this building from an earlier age? I'll bet it will look smart with three floors of large rectangular glass. I can't find an old picture of it specifically, but I'll bet it's in general photographs of Lower Prospect. A Sanborn map shows the building whose lobby entrance is at 700 Prospect (building covers addresses from 636-716) was built as the Electric Building in 1900. County property records say it was built in 1899. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 11, 20241 yr 23 hours ago, marty15 said: On 1/10/2024 at 4:28 PM, ExPatClevGuy said: I've long been under the impression that the arches on the third floor are not original to the building. They look wrong and somehow cheap to me. Anyone have a good historic image of this building from an earlier age? I'll bet it will look smart with three floors of large rectangular (https://cplorg.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p4014coll18/id/2266/rec/6) Hard to tell from the perspective if they were original or not, but one thing's for sure - the glass that's in the current iteration makes it look a lot cheaper and less eloquent. Edited January 12, 20241 yr by GISguy Updated w SizzlinBeefs comment
January 11, 20241 yr Just now, GISguy said: If you zoom waaaay in you can see the current design in this 1943 photo: (https://cplorg.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p4014coll18/id/3058/rec/6) One of my favorite photos!
January 11, 20241 yr 53 minutes ago, Ineffable_Matt said: One of my favorite photos! Amazing how the street lights worked so well all those years ago.
January 11, 20241 yr In GISguy's last photo, I'm trying to figure which is the Mr Albert's building. Perhaps that long, two-story building had its eastern half razed? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 11, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, GISguy said: If you zoom waaaay in you can see the current design in this 1943 photo: (https://cplorg.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p4014coll18/id/3058/rec/6) Hard to tell, but I don't think? The arches seem visible in this photo from 1909: (https://cplorg.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p4014coll18/id/2260/rec/35) One more, a bit tougher to see: (https://cplorg.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p4014coll18/id/2266/rec/6) Hard to tell from the perspective if they were original or not, but one thing's for sure - the glass that's in the current iteration makes it look a lot cheaper and less eloquent. Amazing photos! Got any more old ones from that neighborhood?
January 12, 20241 yr 10 hours ago, GISguy said: If you zoom waaaay in you can see the current design in this 1943 photo: (https://cplorg.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p4014coll18/id/3058/rec/6) Hard to tell, but I don't think? The arches seem visible in this photo from 1909: (https://cplorg.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p4014coll18/id/2260/rec/35) One more, a bit tougher to see: (https://cplorg.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p4014coll18/id/2266/rec/6) Hard to tell from the perspective if they were original or not, but one thing's for sure - the glass that's in the current iteration makes it look a lot cheaper and less eloquent. First photo is Euclid at playhouse square. Second photo is the Rose building. Only the third is the same building.
January 12, 20241 yr Thanks All, @GISguy and @sizzlinbeef for digging up this helpful old snap of 700 Prospect. - This is the one! Back in the 1910s, if the windows had been arched, there would likely have been more ornament and articulation around those arches. The Bauhaus hadn't arrived yet, lol. Edited January 12, 20241 yr by ExPatClevGuy
January 12, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, sizzlinbeef said: First photo is Euclid at playhouse square. Second photo is the Rose building. Only the third is the same building. In that second photo showing the Rose Building, note the surviving house next to it. Sorry to be off-topic, but I couldn't let that one go unnoted. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 12, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, ExPatClevGuy said: Thanks All, and @sizzlinbeef for digging up these helpful old snaps of 700 Prospect. - This the one! Back in the 1910s, if the windows had been arched, there would likely have been more ornament and articulation around those arches. The Bauhaus hadn't arrived yet, lol. Hopefully they restore the windows on the west side of the building.
January 12, 20241 yr 10 hours ago, sizzlinbeef said: First photo is Euclid at playhouse square. Second photo is the Rose building. Only the third is the same building. Ah egg on my face haha thanks for pointing this out. This is why I'm not a librarian lol. I updated my original post taking out the other photos. Either way CPL's photo collection is an awesome resource even if it has me mistaking current/former buildings for other buildings lol
January 12, 20241 yr It really is. Send them a range of addresses and years via email and they’ll happily send you any images they have for free (unless you’re using it for a business in which case they charge a few bucks).
January 12, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, w28th said: It really is. Send them a range of addresses and years via email and they’ll happily send you any images they have for free (unless you’re using it for a business in which case they charge a few bucks). Not to go too far off topic, but I emailed asking for photos of my community garden through the years and they sent a one drive link like the next day full of photos I've never seen (and probably like 50+ of them). Really, really awesome resource. Not to mention free Crains access through both CPL and CCPL!
April 25, 20241 yr Downtown’s new AJ Rocco’s reopening in May By Ken Prendergast / April 25, 2024 If you remember AJ Rocco’s as a coffee shop in the neighboring Caxton Building in Downtown Cleveland, the new AJ Rocco’s is going to be a big change for you. Restaurant-bar owner Brendan Walton and building owner Paul Shaia spared no expense in renovating a 19th-century bank building at 828 Huron Rd. to its Gilded Age glory with all of the rich woodwork, brick walls and metal decorative elements one would expect in a cozy downtown pub. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/04/25/downtowns-new-aj-roccos-reopening-in-may/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 25, 20241 yr 21 minutes ago, KJP said: Downtown’s new AJ Rocco’s reopening in May By Ken Prendergast / April 25, 2024 If you remember AJ Rocco’s as a coffee shop in the neighboring Caxton Building in Downtown Cleveland, the new AJ Rocco’s is going to be a big change for you. Restaurant-bar owner Brendan Walton and building owner Paul Shaia spared no expense in renovating a 19th-century bank building at 828 Huron Rd. to its Gilded Age glory with all of the rich woodwork, brick walls and metal decorative elements one would expect in a cozy downtown pub. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/04/25/downtowns-new-aj-roccos-reopening-in-may/ Great news! While we all enjoy looking up at gleaming new buildings, it's the street-level activation like this that makes a city.
April 26, 20241 yr On 4/25/2024 at 5:11 PM, KJP said: Downtown’s new AJ Rocco’s reopening in May By Ken Prendergast / April 25, 2024 If you remember AJ Rocco’s as a coffee shop in the neighboring Caxton Building in Downtown Cleveland, the new AJ Rocco’s is going to be a big change for you. Restaurant-bar owner Brendan Walton and building owner Paul Shaia spared no expense in renovating a 19th-century bank building at 828 Huron Rd. to its Gilded Age glory with all of the rich woodwork, brick walls and metal decorative elements one would expect in a cozy downtown pub. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/04/25/downtowns-new-aj-roccos-reopening-in-may/ It's taken them an extra year but it looks like patience really paid off. It looks great and that apartment window is amazing!
April 27, 20241 yr They actually hoped to open in 2021. There's even a sign still atop of the back of their building announcing it. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 27, 20241 yr I love this AJ Rocco’s story ... one of the oldest buildings in CLE was extensively renovated ... a local property owner and local 'ma-and-pa' operator collaborate to create something special. Plus the apartment looks sweet!
May 21, 20241 yr Cleveland sells Gateway East parking garage to the Guardians for $26 million by Nick Castele May 20, 2024 City Council on Monday approved a complicated deal that essentially sells the garage to the Guardians. The ball club is exercising an option to buy the garage that was part of its 2022 lease agreement. The deal gives the Guardians control of the garage and much of its revenue. The team won’t have to pay property taxes on the building, either. The tax exemption is thanks to a finer point of the deal that technically makes the Port of Cleveland the owner. The port will receive about $35,000 annually, team officials said. Here’s what Cleveland gets. The team will pay the city $26 million over 13 years, or $2 million annually. On top of that, the city receives 10% of net operating revenue from the garage above a baseline of $1.7 million. https://signalcleveland.org/cleveland-sells-gateway-east-parking-garage-to-the-guardians-for-26-million/
May 21, 20241 yr I don't know if this news was out there 2 weeks ago. https://signalcleveland.org/guardians-ask-for-tax-dollars-for-team-shop-mayor-bibb-back-on-the-campaign-trail/
May 29, 20241 yr There are some interesting rumors swirling around it. If we're doing a UO get-together in June, I can share it there. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 29, 20241 yr I've wanted to attend. You wouldn't know it from my posts but l'm a little introverted. Although once l get going l can't shut up lol.
May 30, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, KJP said: There are some interesting rumors swirling around it. If we're doing a UO get-together in June, I can share it there. Perfect, everyone in for this Saturday? 😅
May 30, 20241 yr 43 minutes ago, newyorker said: The lot actually looks better than that garage. And we get to see the cool old ad.
May 30, 20241 yr There's a very interesting/massive project slated for the Nucleus site with Gilbert and another partner based out of the midwest. When there's a little bit more clarity, Ken will drop an atomic bomb article
May 30, 20241 yr 28 minutes ago, zbaris87 said: There's a very interesting/massive project slated for the Nucleus site with Gilbert and another partner based out of the midwest. When there's a little bit more clarity, Ken will drop an atomic bomb article Are you expecting news of this or the "skyline changing hotel" to break first?
May 30, 20241 yr I haven’t seen this discussed anywhere but I thought it was interesting. Sort of inside baseball but also makes you go “hmm” https://signalcleveland.org/email-reveals-cavs-ceos-frustrations-with-cuyahoga-county-over-rocket-mortgage-fieldhouse-landlord/
May 30, 20241 yr 35 minutes ago, GREGinPARMA said: Are you expecting news of this or the "skyline changing hotel" to break first? Listen, s**t on me all you want, but there is a skyline changing hotel coming and Ken knows about it too. Just too early to report. I'm not one to give false info, nor do i make up bulls**t.
May 30, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, zbaris87 said: Listen, s**t on me all you want, but there is a skyline changing hotel coming and Ken knows about it too. Just too early to report. I'm not one to give false info, nor do i make up bulls**t. I think he's just making a joke. I don't think anyone here thinks you're making stuff up. It's just funny sometimes how long things take that's all. We love the teases keep 'em coming!
May 30, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, zbaris87 said: Listen, s**t on me all you want, but there is a skyline changing hotel coming and Ken knows about it too. Just too early to report. I'm not one to give false info, nor do i make up bulls**t. Woah Woah quick-trigger, hostile man. It was a legitimate question. I used the quotation marks so you knew what I was referring to. Never once doubted you. If I was going to try to "s**t on you" I wouldn't make it subtle.
May 30, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, zbaris87 said: Listen, s**t on me all you want, but there is a skyline changing hotel coming and Ken knows about it too. Just too early to report. I'm not one to give false info, nor do i make up bulls**t. Agree with @dwolfi01. There’s nothing I’m more eager to read than you or Ken being the most recent post on a hot topic.
May 30, 20241 yr 54 minutes ago, GREGinPARMA said: Are you expecting news of this or the "skyline changing hotel" to break first? Maybe it's the same news?
May 30, 20241 yr The former nuCLEus site (we need to come up with a better name) is the next one I'd like to see developed. As I stated upthread, I believe it is now the largest parking crater in the CBD. A tallish tower on that site would help revitalize a part of downtown that is looking rather shabby. And it would fill the gap in the skyline between the big boys at Public Square and those along E 9th.
May 30, 20241 yr @zbaris87 Thanks so much for the really excellent (if still tentative) news, and @KJP, I can't wait for the story. The original NuCLEus plan was for about 500 residences and about 350,000 sq. ft. of commercial space (office, retail, apartment). Personally, I would like to see something build here that has good street-level activation and a similar overall footprint to the original NuCLEus plan, regardless of the specific massing.
May 30, 20241 yr @surfohio It looks like you're dropping a bomb on the building. Yeah, I don't care much for it either. 😵 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 30, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, zbaris87 said: Listen, s**t on me all you want, but there is a skyline changing hotel coming and Ken knows about it too. Just too early to report. I'm not one to give false info, nor do i make up bulls**t. I wish I had a nickel for each time Blaine Griffin wonders out loud in a council committee meeting whether there are already too many hotel rooms downtown. I don't agree with him at all but I have to guess he is not coming up with that on his own. Somebody with a vested interest much be feeding him that "myth".
May 30, 20241 yr Well, until developers and hotel brands start doing their own due diligence that includes market analysis, market demographics, researching comps, and all that stuff, and until banks that make the loans start doing a similar underwriting process, how else are they supposed to know if a city has enough hotel rooms, if not for random comments at City Council meetings?
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