May 30, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, zbaris87 said: Listen, s**t on me all you want, but there is a skyline changing hotel coming and Ken knows about it too. Just too early to report. I'm not one to give false info, nor do i make up bulls**t. I don't think it requires believing that you are personally unreliable to be skeptical of big vision plans in our town. They have a way of not happening after years of talk.
June 1, 20241 yr On 5/30/2024 at 9:03 AM, zbaris87 said: There's a very interesting/massive project slated for the Nucleus site with Gilbert and another partner based out of the midwest. When there's a little bit more clarity, Ken will drop an atomic bomb article now this, this is wut we lurk for around here — a nucleus bomb — 🙀
June 3, 20241 yr Soooo is it possible we can have a little bit of insight of what’s to come on the nucleus site I’m just so anxious. I’m looking at other cities that are constantly going vertical and I want that to be us aswell. I mean y not us right?
June 3, 20241 yr Why be so anxious? How will it change your life or our lives and, more importantly, why? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 3, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, KJP said: Why be so anxious? How will it change your life or our lives and, more importantly, why? It won't. In fact the big projects are fun to daydream about. But it's the small infill projects that do happen far more often that truly change the fabric of this city.
June 3, 20241 yr Exactly.....just look at the Scranton Peninsula development. I never thought I would live to see that happen. But there it is!!
June 3, 20241 yr 34 minutes ago, B767PILOT said: Exactly.....just look at the Scranton Peninsula development. I never thought I would live to see that happen. But there it is!! Agreed. It’s like infill housing is your daily meals that keep you healthy, and the skyscrapers are the delicious desert that all of your friends marvel at after dinner.
June 10, 20241 yr When I’m in Dubai, I always try to catch a photo of this building from the highway. It makes me think of what Nucleus probably would’ve looked like.
June 10, 20241 yr Why? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 10, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, KJP said: Why? Because of the way the windows sink in and protrude from the design.
June 18, 2024Jun 18 I know it was mentioned a dispensary may be going into the Record Rendezvous spot a few months ago, and it looks like that was made official now. I'm happy to see something finally moving into those buildings, and I hope it brings a few other businesses. I had hoped with the resurgence of record sales in the last decade that somehow another record store could have gone in its place, but I'm guessing the economics on a decent sized Downtown record store don't make much sense anymore. My dream was the Rock Hall buying the space and operating a store there.
June 18, 2024Jun 18 2 hours ago, PlanCleveland said: I know it was mentioned a dispensary may be going into the Record Rendezvous spot a few months ago, and it looks like that was made official now. I'm happy to see something finally moving into those buildings, and I hope it brings a few other businesses. I had hoped with the resurgence of record sales in the last decade that somehow another record store could have gone in its place, but I'm guessing the economics on a decent sized Downtown record store don't make much sense anymore. My dream was the Rock Hall buying the space and operating a store there. That's actually a good idea. Even though the Rock Hall would more than likely not consider this type of venture, the prospect of creating a record store with the backing of the Rock Hall would provide a nice niche. Plus, it could've bridged the Rock Hall to other parts of downtown (which could've spurred other Rock & Roll store concepts to pop up).
June 18, 2024Jun 18 4 hours ago, superior said: That's actually a good idea. Even though the Rock Hall would more than likely not consider this type of venture, the prospect of creating a record store with the backing of the Rock Hall would provide a nice niche. Plus, it could've bridged the Rock Hall to other parts of downtown (which could've spurred other Rock & Roll store concepts to pop up). It's been a long time since I've been in the hall, but don't they have a large record store in there? Doubtful they'd want to cannibalize that business.
June 18, 2024Jun 18 2 hours ago, JohnSummit said: It's been a long time since I've been in the hall, but don't they have a large record store in there? Doubtful they'd want to cannibalize that business. It could probably create new revenue, because I don't think any local is going to the Hall to shop. I'm mainly thinking about the history of that storefront though, it could be a store with a small exhibit in it.
June 19, 2024Jun 19 16 hours ago, PlanCleveland said: It could probably create new revenue, because I don't think any local is going to the Hall to shop. I'm mainly thinking about the history of that storefront though, it could be a store with a small exhibit in it. Those record stores are in low rent buildings. unless the Rock Hall bought the property and leased it at low rent for goodwill for a record store, there is no way the renters would be able to afford that overhead.
June 20, 2024Jun 20 Found out today from someone living in the building, that the former Fitworks in 668 is becoming a gym for residents only.
June 20, 2024Jun 20 On 6/18/2024 at 3:16 PM, JohnSummit said: It's been a long time since I've been in the hall, but don't they have a large record store in there? Doubtful they'd want to cannibalize that business. Yes, the Rock Hall has a store. If you think about it, how likely are you to travel to the Rock Hall to visit the store if you are near Progressive Field?
June 20, 2024Jun 20 14 hours ago, Milkshake1 said: Found out today from someone living in the building, that the former Fitworks in 668 is becoming a gym for residents only. Wow, that's a HUGE space to fill w/just residents. I could see them sectioning off the basement to put in a studio of some sort, but that's pretty wild.
June 22, 2024Jun 22 On 6/20/2024 at 10:37 AM, GISguy said: Wow, that's a HUGE space to fill w/just residents. I could see them sectioning off the basement to put in a studio of some sort, but that's pretty wild. Definitely. Makes me wonder if the info is accurate.
June 24, 2024Jun 24 On 6/22/2024 at 2:59 PM, Milkshake1 said: Definitely. Makes me wonder if the info is accurate. considering the last few iterations of gyms in that space has failed multiple times, it isn't surprising that they're trying something new
June 25, 2024Jun 25 I suspect this will have its own thread soon. Former Medical Mutual HQ in Downtown Cleveland to get $100 million makeover (news5cleveland.com) The redevelopment project will include a boutique hotel, apartments and what the buyers described as “a unique ground-floor retail experience.” https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/former-medical-mutual-hq-in-downtown-cleveland-set-for-100-million-makeover
June 25, 2024Jun 25 9 minutes ago, MuRrAy HiLL said: I suspect this will have its own thread soon. Former Medical Mutual HQ in Downtown Cleveland to get $100 million makeover (news5cleveland.com) The redevelopment project will include a boutique hotel, apartments and what the buyers described as “a unique ground-floor retail experience.” https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/former-medical-mutual-hq-in-downtown-cleveland-set-for-100-million-makeover This and the former Church of Christ hqs development should put a lot more feet on Prospect Avenue. Good to see it happen so soon after MM decided to sell. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
June 25, 2024Jun 25 Amazing news! I'd sure they will be going for a T-MUD. Seems like it would be a good Target location. I'm surprised Crains beat Ken to this scope, that usually does not happen.
June 25, 2024Jun 25 Sorry guys. I was looking for the "Rose Building" and didn't spot the other thread. Mods -- can you please merge the posts above into the other thread as needed? Edited June 25, 2024Jun 25 by MuRrAy HiLL
June 26, 2024Jun 26 Nice. Now that Euclid Ave has been revitalized, let's see the same happen on Prospect.
June 26, 2024Jun 26 Ch 5 Story on State Tax credits. https://www.news5cleveland.com/downtown-cleveland-office-to-housing-redo-alcazar-hotel-win-state-historic-tax-credits
June 26, 2024Jun 26 My own meager contribution "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 2, 2024Aug 2 Dan Gilbert and Dave Blitzer, representing two of Cleveland's pro teams, have invested $250 million in Cosm, a sports-themed video "experience" company that is building huge entertainment centers around the country. I'm guessing this means there will be one built in Cleveland somewhere in the Gateway district. CORRECTION: Gilbert and Blitzer, along with three others, invested $250 million. I still like Cleveland's chances of getting a Cosm. Cosm Dallas, as an example https://www.crainscleveland.com/sports-recreation/dan-gilbert-david-blitzer-invest-cosm-entertainment-venues Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
August 3, 2024Aug 3 20 hours ago, Dougal said: Dan Gilbert and Dave Blitzer, representing two of Cleveland's pro teams, have invested $250 million in Cosm, a sports-themed video "experience" company that is building huge entertainment centers around the country. I'm guessing this means there will be one built in Cleveland somewhere in the Gateway district. CORRECTION: Gilbert and Blitzer, along with three others, invested $250 million. I still like Cleveland's chances of getting a Cosm. Cosm Dallas, as an example https://www.crainscleveland.com/sports-recreation/dan-gilbert-david-blitzer-invest-cosm-entertainment-venues Didn't one of the early versions of the Nucleus plans have something similar to this? Have this as the main tenant on the ground for a Nucleus site tower pleaseeeeee. Update: https://cordish.com/news/articles/20170209_cleveland-live_pressrelease Edited August 3, 2024Aug 3 by PlanCleveland Found the article
August 5, 2024Aug 5 On 8/3/2024 at 11:32 AM, PlanCleveland said: Didn't one of the early versions of the Nucleus plans have something similar to this? Have this as the main tenant on the ground for a Nucleus site tower pleaseeeeee. Update: https://cordish.com/news/articles/20170209_cleveland-live_pressrelease That seems to make the most sense. Both the Dallas and the Los Angeles Cosms could handle being taller; I cannot find a design for the Atlanta location. To be the hinted-at Cleveland skyline-changer, I guess a 50-story hotel might do it. 🙂 Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
August 5, 2024Aug 5 If l had to l'd settle for a 49 story hotel. I never want to get too greedy. Manage those expectations people.
August 19, 2024Aug 19 https://keystonecres.com/hudsons-detroit-reviving-legacy-redefining-skyline-new-home-of-gm/ Is there any chance Bedrock just builds a similar plan on the Nucleus site once this project in Detroit is complete? Including the rumored skyline changing fancy hotel? The Detroit project includes Detroit's first 5 star hotel. I was in Detroit recently, and this project looks amazing at street level. It would fit in perfectly across from the RoMoFiHo glass wall. I didn't take any pictures, but here is a link to the Google street view from late last year. https://maps.app.goo.gl/JRSEMeQDq83mFQ4c9?g_st=ac Edited August 19, 2024Aug 19 by PlanCleveland
August 19, 2024Aug 19 8 hours ago, PlanCleveland said: https://keystonecres.com/hudsons-detroit-reviving-legacy-redefining-skyline-new-home-of-gm/ Is there any chance Bedrock just builds a similar plan on the Nucleus site once this project in Detroit is complete? Including the rumored skyline changing fancy hotel? The Detroit project includes Detroit's first 5 star hotel. I was in Detroit recently, and this project looks amazing at street level. It would fit in perfectly across from the RoMoFiHo glass wall. I didn't take any pictures, but here is a link to the Google street view from late last year. https://maps.app.goo.gl/JRSEMeQDq83mFQ4c9?g_st=ac I was also in Detroit not that long ago and it looks pretty awesome Note how Gucci opened a downtown store directly nextdoor - maybe a similar project at the Nucleus site would attract major retail brands too Edited August 19, 2024Aug 19 by sonisharri
August 19, 2024Aug 19 Nice photos, and it does look great! I remember when Gucci was at Tower City back in the day (not that I ever shopped there). But I'll just go ahead and say it: We have a way better skyline.
August 20, 2024Aug 20 Detroit’s new tower is top shelf imagine something even close to that in scale and design at the Nucleus site - wow!! I haven’t given up dreaming about that!
August 20, 2024Aug 20 I can’t remember…has someone posted on here a rendering of what the skyline would look like with nucleus and the new SW HQ?
August 20, 2024Aug 20 2 hours ago, sonisharri said: I was also in Detroit not that long ago and it looks pretty awesome Note how Gucci opened a downtown store directly nextdoor - maybe a similar project at the Nucleus site would attract major retail brands too Standalone Gucci stores are opening in every Midwest City except Cleveland it seems 😭😂
August 20, 2024Aug 20 1 hour ago, ASPhotoman said: I can’t remember…has someone posted on here a rendering of what the skyline would look like with nucleus and the new SW HQ? Gosh, I think did a long time ago... unfortunately that would require scrolling back through the nuCLEus thread 🥲
August 20, 2024Aug 20 1 hour ago, ASPhotoman said: I can’t remember…has someone posted on here a rendering of what the skyline would look like with nucleus and the new SW HQ? I think @dave2017did the colorful nighttime view with Nucleus - and then there was the rumored Bedrock Gateway megaproject - that one was probably by @Geowizical. I was never a big fan of the Nucleus design for CLE, but with SW added and providing more balance, Nucleus looks pretty friggin cool. Either way, a new tower on the Nucleus site, (combined with SW’s new tower) really takes our skyline to the next level. Edited August 20, 2024Aug 20 by CleveFan
August 20, 2024Aug 20 13 hours ago, CleveFan said: I think @dave2017did the colorful nighttime view with Nucleus - and then there was the rumored Bedrock Gateway megaproject - that one was probably by @Geowizical. I was never a big fan of the Nucleus design for CLE, but with SW added and providing more balance, Nucleus looks pretty friggin cool. Either way, a new tower on the Nucleus site, (combined with SW’s new tower) really takes our skyline to the next level. Thanks for sharing!
October 15, 2024Oct 15 They've been working in here the past week and some, this is from this morning:
October 15, 2024Oct 15 4 hours ago, GISguy said: They've been working in here the past week and some, this is from this morning: Did I miss something? What is going on in here? Anyone know?
October 15, 2024Oct 15 1 hour ago, MyPhoneDead said: Did I miss something? What is going on in here? Anyone know? Marijuana dispensary "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 15, 2024Oct 15 4 minutes ago, KJP said: Marijuana dispensary Just the type of retail this area needs. More trash
October 15, 2024Oct 15 15 minutes ago, KJP said: Marijuana dispensary Oh so the rest of the building is going to look terrible still and just the ground floor will get renovated.
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