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The real crime is the quality of Rascal House Pizza. Blechh.

The real crime is the quality of Rascal House Pizza. Blechh.

 

I haven't been there in years.  Too funny!

Thnx Michelle. As usual with you we get 'the rest of the story'.

The current owner's strategy = demolition by neglect.

Crumbling Cleveland building has ties to rock and roll

 

Kristin Anderson, WKYC 7:24 p.m. EDT July 14, 2014

 

CLEVELAND -- An historic building downtown is sparking a fight over whether to tear it down and lose a piece of Cleveland history.

 

The former Herald Building is connected to the place where music industry icon Alan Freed coined the phrase "Rock and Roll."

 

Downtown Cleveland Alliance says the owners of the Herald Building want to tear it down and possibly put up a billboard, or retail store or parking lot.

 

WKYC tried contacting L&R, but has yet to hear back from them.

 

The city ordered L&R to repair the building to make it safe, but they say L&R is not in compliance with the court.

 

 

http://www.wkyc.com/story/news/local/cuyahoga-county/2014/07/14/historic-building-has-ties-to-rock-and-roll/12650425/

The City policy should be as such for demolition to occur.    First. the fines paid. Second the building should be placed back into habitable conditions as codes require. Third a moratorium of minimal 24 months of keeping the property in good condition.  If after two years then the owner can apply for demolition if no interest or buyer/owner sees potential with repurpose.  Also anything replacing the property at minimum must replace minimal square footage

I think you should be forced to fix violation or the city should take it by eminent domain.  If you've owned a building, and you haven't fixed it, over the years, there is a reason. 

 

Honestly, I think some owners who are not involved in the community or are NOT local are waiting to cash in.  East 4th and now East 9 are hot development areas so they've been sitting on the crumbling land and building waiting for a pay day!

I thought the building was part of the original block, but not the actual building where rock and roll was coined?  It still would be a shame to lose, though.

 

And if this building is truly important to the history of this town, then greater action should be taken to save it.  I don't think a receivership could apply to a commercial building (I believe only residential properties can go through receivership), but what if it could? The Gateway Development Corp could file for receivership of the building, which could be granted allowing the building to be at least structurally renovated.  The receivership would become a first priority lien against the property, coming before any other liens against the property or the owners.  Once the building is renovated, if the owners don't pay Gateway back Gateway could foreclose and get the title to the property.  And since Gateway is a 501©3, they could apply for different sources of funding to save the building from demo.  I'm sure some of the Foundations in town would be willing to at least help fund the preservation of such an important piece of Cleveland's history.

 

That's IF a receivership could be filed for a commercial building... if not then our council members would need to get involved to create legislation allowing for a receivership to happen with commercial buildings.

Actually I'm pretty certain that the Rock n Roll phrase was coined in the Idea Center in Playhouse Square.

 

Source: The plaque on the front of the building.

I noticed a lot of interior work being done to the second floor of the triangular building at the E9th/Prospect/Huron intersection that also houses the Winking Lizard. Obviously there are HUGE windows on both floors, and from what I could see, it looked like they were setting up some kind of offices up there, but has anyone heard specifics regarding this building? 

I noticed a lot of interior work being done to the second floor of the triangular building at the E9th/Prospect/Huron intersection that also houses the Winking Lizard. Obviously there are HUGE windows on both floors, and from what I could see, it looked like they were setting up some kind of offices up there, but has anyone heard specifics regarding this building? 

 

The upstairs were the offices/classrooms of Kent State's Architecture School, which later moved to Euclid Avenue at East 12th. Sounds like a new tenant is in the cards for the old space.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I noticed a lot of interior work being done to the second floor of the triangular building at the E9th/Prospect/Huron intersection that also houses the Winking Lizard. Obviously there are HUGE windows on both floors, and from what I could see, it looked like they were setting up some kind of offices up there, but has anyone heard specifics regarding this building? 

 

City Year Cleveland is moving into that office space. I believe they have a five-year lease, and they're scheduled to take occupancy soon.

 

Michelle

The real crime is the quality of Rascal House Pizza. Blechh.

 

haha now there are some memories -- even as a teen going in the rs to drink beer underage and hangout we laughed about it. that pizza is infamous!

I noticed a lot of interior work being done to the second floor of the triangular building at the E9th/Prospect/Huron intersection that also houses the Winking Lizard. Obviously there are HUGE windows on both floors, and from what I could see, it looked like they were setting up some kind of offices up there, but has anyone heard specifics regarding this building? 

 

City Year Cleveland is moving into that office space. I believe they have a five-year lease, and they're scheduled to take occupancy soon.

 

Michelle

 

From a little research on them, it looks like they are currently housed in the Leader Building. So with all the angst about tenants from these older buildings now up for conversion, it looks like at least one will be clearing out and still stay downtown. Although its quite likely this move was in the works before the conversion plans were announced or even conceived

I noticed a lot of interior work being done to the second floor of the triangular building at the E9th/Prospect/Huron intersection that also houses the Winking Lizard. Obviously there are HUGE windows on both floors, and from what I could see, it looked like they were setting up some kind of offices up there, but has anyone heard specifics regarding this building? 

 

City Year Cleveland is moving into that office space. I believe they have a five-year lease, and they're scheduled to take occupancy soon.

 

Michelle

 

Cool, thanks for the info.  Going to be nice to see more regular foot traffic around this intersection w/new office tenants here and across the street at the County building. Maybe we'll even see a few more storefronts revamped in that area.

I noticed a lot of interior work being done to the second floor of the triangular building at the E9th/Prospect/Huron intersection that also houses the Winking Lizard. Obviously there are HUGE windows on both floors, and from what I could see, it looked like they were setting up some kind of offices up there, but has anyone heard specifics regarding this building? 

 

City Year Cleveland is moving into that office space. I believe they have a five-year lease, and they're scheduled to take occupancy soon.

 

Michelle

 

From a little research on them, it looks like they are currently housed in the Leader Building. So with all the angst about tenants from these older buildings now up for conversion, it looks like at least one will be clearing out and still stay downtown. Although its quite likely this move was in the works before the conversion plans were announced or even conceived

 

While I am of the mind that the risk of businesses in these buildings relocating to the suburb is overblown, I wouldn't take too much from CityYear's actions. Based on the nature of what they do, there was no way they would be located anywhere but within the city limits.

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mjarboe[/member] just posted this on Twitter:

 

So proposed @EnterpriseStark project in #CLE's Gateway District has a name: "nuCLEus." And here's a massing study.

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I've moved all posts regarding Stark's nuCLEus development to a new thread:

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,29504.0.html

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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New-ish outdoor patio @sushi86

Just so everyone is abreast of the latest goings on:

 

The Goldfish Supply building at 210 Prospect Ave (PPN:101-28-004) AND the building next to it (PPN: 101-28-004) are at the very tail end of a tax foreclosure case -

CV-13-805115 WOODS COVE II, LLC vs. PROSPECT AVENUE PROPERTIES, LLC

http://cpdocket.cp.cuyahogacounty.us/CV_CaseInformation_Docket.aspx?q=RY7R9ii7HV8jkGmVFcOcbg2

 

On 7/09/2014: Woods Cove II, LLC (Plaintiff) was granted summary judgment and issued a decree of foreclosure.  The case, however, appears to be dragging on because Woods Cove II, LLC is claiming they are owed attorney's fees by the Defendant.  A hearing on the issue is set for 9/10/2014.

 

Unless the owner comes up with some serious cash, these parcels will end up at sheriff's sale in the near future.  Will be interesting to see how this plays.  Remember that Weston bought the building in the middle of the block (PPN: 101-28-005) in 2012.  L&R is set to transfer the easternmost building (101-28-006) and the adjacent parking lot (101-28-007) to Bob Stark if all goes according to plan (praying it does).

 

This entire block could potentially be in the hands of entities capable and willing to actually do something with it.  Fingers crossed.

 

 

Gateway Walk & Dine 2014

 

Meet-up places. One could visit tour sites w a group or individually

 

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First stop we went was the Rotunda

 

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Standing on the second floor, where the largest selection of beer and wine in Ohio will be located

 

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Lookin out the second floor windows

 

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looking up to a now familiar sight

 

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Next, a look inside the new County Admin bldg

 

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A look outside the Admin bldg's windows

 

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over to the Ivory on Euclid (formerly Truman Building)

 

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Next, over to 1717 E 9th.

 

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On the second floor (only floor finished at the time). Great apts!

 

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terrific city views from just the second floor

 

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Location of future Al's Deli, serving great food (as were many downtown restaurants at all the stops)

 

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Our tour ended at the Old Arcade w a look at some renovted Hyatt hotel suites

 

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Superb pics. Thanks for posting!

That was great, thanks!

Is Heinen's really going to have the largest selection of beer and wine in ohio? Wow

I did not see the article that refers to the "largest selection" but it has to be noted that the Ohio Liquor Commission restricts precisely what can be stocked - and it is severely restricted compared to other states.  Check out what is available in the state of NY and you will get an idea of what we are missing.  The article should read "The largest selection of the limited selection". 

Is Heinen's really going to have the largest selection of beer and wine in ohio? Wow

 

The West Pointe Market in Akron likes to say that they have the largest wine selection between NYC and Chicago, so I wonder if the Heinen's will actually top that.

Nice job, Clueless! You definitely are not clueless when it comes to contributing great content to UrbanOhio!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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Saw this last night in the 5th street arcade while we were walking back from the Indians game.  I hope this Barrio plans to open for lunch. 

 

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Is Heinen's really going to have the largest selection of beer and wine in ohio? Wow

 

Fred Geis  said this to the tour group on the GWay Walk & Dine, July 23

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Investors tied to Red Restaurant Group buy 811 Prospect Ave. building, plan Moxie 2.0 in downtown #CLE: http://t.co/LzNyoKBJk0 #CRE

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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Investors tied to Red Restaurant Group buy 811 Prospect Ave. building, plan Moxie 2.0 in downtown #CLE: http://t.co/LzNyoKBJk0 #CRE

Oh, now that is exciting! I found that building so ugly every time I walked out of my building when I lived there...and to see the building it replaced!!! Side-note, why isn't this in Gateway instead of random development?

Investors tied to Red Restaurant Group buy 811 Prospect Ave. building, plan Moxie 2.0 in downtown #CLE: http://t.co/LzNyoKBJk0 #CRE

 

Wow that building is just about terrible. Anyhow, glad it's getting a tenant finally. And hoping the renovation does some magic.

Good news. I always thought something like an ESPN Zone (are they even around anymore?) would have done well there.

Wow, I had no idea that that building has never had a tenant since it's been built. This is certainly a good sign for downtown, then!

Oh, now that is exciting! I found that building so ugly every time I walked out of my building when I lived there...and to see the building it replaced!!! Side-note, why isn't this in Gateway instead of random development?

 

Because I was too sick yesterday to do much else, let alone do it coherently. I discovered I had mis-posted a few messages yesterday.

 

Anyway, when the vacant, featureless buildings are gaining tenants, you know downtown is running out of existing structures to fill!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Wow, this is fantastic news.  Sure beats an Alice Cooperstown.

 

I can't believe it's been almost 20 years since the Standard demo. I remember being super bummed out by it.  The LOC photos Michelle links to in the story remind me why I was so bummed: http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/oh1779.photos.212676p/resource/

Ok, so this one I did find on my own.

 

737 BOLIVAR RD (101-29-033) transferred on on September 12, 2014 for $2,400,000 to a LOOKOUT REALTY GROUP LLC.

 

Here is the building:

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So...who is this LOOKOUT REALTY GROUP LLC?  A business search at the Ohio Secretary of State's website shows that their articles of incorporation were filed on 6/25/2014.  http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:0::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:2306280

 

As expected, the details to be found within the filings are scant.  The only names listed on the filings happen to be attorneys at Hahn Loeser.

 

Apparently, the owner was marketing 5,300 sqft of office space for lease on the 3rd floor and 7,200 sqft on the 4th floor.  You can see some pictures of the interior here: http://www.thesquarefoot.com/listings/oh/cleveland/44115/downtown-dallas/737-bolivar-road/148068

 

 

Ok, so this one I did find on my own.

 

737 BOLIVAR RD (101-29-033) transferred on on September 12, 2014 for $2,400,000 to a LOOKOUT REALTY GROUP LLC.

 

Here is the building:

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So...who is this LOOKOUT REALTY GROUP LLC?  A business search at the Ohio Secretary of State's website shows that their articles of incorporation were filed on 6/25/2014.  http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:0::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:2306280

 

As expected, the details to be found within the filings are scant.  The only names listed on the filings happen to be attorneys at Hahn Loeser.

 

Don't know if there is any connection, but Zaremba's offices are in that building.

Scene Magazine will occupy the 4th floor.

 

Scene to get new home in downtown's NineTwelve District The alternative newsweekly will occupy the top floor of a four-story building at 737 Bolivar Road just acquired by Lookout Realty Group LLC, which is led by Andrew Zelman, a principal in Scene's ownership.

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20140911/FREE/140919944/scene-to-get-new-home-in-downtowns-ninetwelve-district

 

 

Its certainly a big enough project to have its own thread, which it does.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Crews moving plywood into the Southworth Building this morning.  Set to be apartments.

 

Seen this morning:

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On the way over to PHS, fianlly snapped a shot of the May co. parking garage as it's looked the last few days.

couldnt find anything on line about this

 

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^ I drive by that monstrosity everyday. It looks terrible. Does anyone know what's happening?

It looks like they're spraying for bugs. 

 

Really though, are they just using dirty bedsheets?

Maybe it's dressed up for Halloween? Looks like a ghost.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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On the way over to PHS, fianlly snapped a shot of the May co. parking garage as it's looked the last few days.

couldnt find anything on line about this

 

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Anybody have an update on this? Haven't been down that way since last month. Can't find anything about it.

^^I think it is more than repainting. There is a construction dumpster in the Tilted Kilt parking area off of the East 3rd alley that is full of construction debris and has been refilled weekly. I'm usually parked back there at least once a week for biz. I'll ask around the next time I am there.

Might just be painting...? On another note I saw a few trucks with what looked to be crane components parked outside Progressive Field on Ontario. I'm guessing for the improvements to the stadium?

 

Progressive Field renovations began about Oct. 1. Follow here:

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,29502.msg729087.html#msg729087

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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