July 24, 20159 yr ^I think Carter Manor re-upped its HUD mortgage or project-based Section 8 fairly recently, so I doubt that's in play anytime soon. I hope there's something real to Geis's plan, but isn't there some law that requires applicants to say they are planning to redevelop a site in order to get a demo permit downtown?
July 24, 20159 yr I'm wrong -- the Carter Manor/Winton Manor property is owned by the Ferchill Group. http://www.rejournals.com/2015/03/18/bellwether-enterprise-real-estate-capital-closes-12-million-loan-for-winton-manor-in-cleveland/ Bellweather has the loan and is the recipient of all tax mailings.... PRIMARY OWNER CARTER MANOR APARTMENTS LIMITED PARTNERSHIP PROPERTY ADDRESS 1012 Prospect AVE, Cleveland, OH 44115 TAX MAILING ADDRESS BELLWETHER ENTERPRISE, 1360 E 9TH ST, SUITE 300, CLEVELAND, OH 44114 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 24, 20159 yr The City law does NOT allow demo in downtown for parking UNLESS a redevelopment plan is submitted. Then it is a temporary 1 year permit.
July 24, 20159 yr The City law does NOT allow demo in downtown for parking UNLESS a redevelopment plan is submitted. Then it is a temporary 1 year permit. Evidently they are more like guidelines. The CPC approved the demolition request with no development plan and a 5 year parking permit. All Geis needed was the ol' wink and gun. Don't worry we're not in the parking business (except for the garages we already own). I don't doubt Geis has bigger plans for this corner and two story adjacent garage. I do question the implication from mjarboe this will be any legitimate time before the 5 year permit expires.
August 27, 20159 yr Gateway enough for me... I'm gonna kinda miss the smokestack. It's always stood out to me as a kid. Canadians buy Cleveland Thermal, will demolish downtown coal plant CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Major improvements are coming to Cleveland Thermal, including the demolition of the coal-fired steam plant in the Flats just blocks from Public Square. The Corix Group, a privately held company owned by the BC Investment Management Corporation, said Thursday that it had "finalized" an agreement with Cleveland Thermal to buy the company and expected to close the deal by Sept. 30. Terms were not disclosed. Cleveland City Council approved the sale in July and authorized the transfer of Cleveland Thermal's 25-year franchise to Corix after hearing that the sale would assist the company with its transition from coal to natural gas. http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2015/08/canadians_buy_cleveland_therma.html#incart_river
August 27, 20159 yr ^Oh man, I'm with you. Would have been an interesting building to repurpose. I wonder what will become of that site after demo. Also, I wonder what this means for the railroad tracks that were used to bring the coal in. KJP[/member], do you know what's in store for that ROW?
August 27, 20159 yr I'm not fully visualizing where this is. Is this the building you pass on the Rapid coming into Tower City?
August 27, 20159 yr ^Stand on the Lorain-Carnegie bridge, toward the eastern Guardians and look north. That smokestack that gets in the way of many a potentially good shot of Public Square's "Big 3" - that's the plant. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
August 27, 20159 yr ^Stand on the Lorain-Carnegie bridge, toward the eastern Guardians and look north. That smokestack that gets in the way of many a potentially good shot of Public Square's "Big 3" - that's the plant. Is this the smokestack they are referring to?
August 28, 20159 yr I'm not fully visualizing where this is. Is this the building you pass on the Rapid coming into Tower City? Yes it is. As a kid, my dad always said he noted the smokestack before the Rapid dives into that long ramp/tunnel into Tower City.
August 28, 20159 yr Gateway enough for me... I'm gonna kinda miss the smokestack. It's always stood out to me as a kid. Canadians buy Cleveland Thermal, will demolish downtown coal plant CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Major improvements are coming to Cleveland Thermal, including the demolition of the coal-fired steam plant in the Flats just blocks from Public Square. The Corix Group, a privately held company owned by the BC Investment Management Corporation, said Thursday that it had "finalized" an agreement with Cleveland Thermal to buy the company and expected to close the deal by Sept. 30. Terms were not disclosed. Cleveland City Council approved the sale in July and authorized the transfer of Cleveland Thermal's 25-year franchise to Corix after hearing that the sale would assist the company with its transition from coal to natural gas. http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2015/08/canadians_buy_cleveland_therma.html#incart_river No plans that I'm aware of. That's the CSX-owned tracks Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad wanted to use to extend their service to Tower City Center. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 28, 20159 yr I remember when I was a kid and we moved to Cleveland; Gateway was being built and they modeled the light towers at the baseball stadium from this particular smoke stack. (useless info) I am now old!
August 28, 20159 yr Can the smokestack be removed and be placed somewhere else? Essentially an urban art nod to Cleveland's hertitage?
August 28, 20159 yr No, you're right. There were actually many more than three. Cleveland Eagle Avenue-c1928-L by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 28, 20159 yr Now that I do not recall at all. You can see in the pics where the previous two were located. Where were the additional stacks?
August 28, 20159 yr Now that I do not recall at all. You can see in the pics where the previous two were located. Where were the additional stacks? Looks like maybe a portion of that building was demolished, which had all those smaller stacks? https://www.instagram.com/cle_and_beyond/https://www.instagram.com/jbkaufer/
August 28, 20159 yr No, you're right. There were actually many more than three. Cleveland Eagle Avenue-c1928-L by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr This photo makes me sad.
August 28, 20159 yr ^Ahhhh, yes. I see now. Well, as that was from 1922, that wouild explain why I do not recall seeing more than three stacks.
September 2, 20159 yr ^ Would have been neat if the Sheriff St Market could have been attached to the Q as a hotel or something (if it wasn't torn down). That was a neat looking building.
October 14, 20159 yr So I am getting a new neighbor apparently...Buffalo Wild Wings or BW3 is moving in next door where the former RJ Bolands stood, next to City Tap. It will be interesting to see what another sports bar does to the existing bars (clevelander, city tap, paninis, harry buffalo, and the few smaller ones). But still good to see that someone is finally moving into that space which has been empty for 4-5 years. They aren't expecting to open until early next year. It also explains the facade work they are doing on the Huron side of the building. Haven't seen any formal announcements yet.
October 14, 20159 yr So I am getting a new neighbor apparently...Buffalo Wild Wings or BW3 is moving in next door where the former RJ Bolands stood, next to City Tap. It will be interesting to see what another sports bar does to the existing bars (clevelander, city tap, paninis, harry buffalo, and the few smaller ones). But still good to see that someone is finally moving into that space which has been empty for 4-5 years. They aren't expecting to open until early next year. It also explains the facade work they are doing on the Huron side of the building. Haven't seen any formal announcements yet. Well at least BW-3 BW-2 should provide some stability to that cursed space. Took my dad to the San Diego location this year and noticed their food quality was much upgraded from prior years.
October 14, 20159 yr Awesome! Buffalo Wild Wings is one of the places I've really been missing since I moved downtown. So excited! That building seems pretty tiny though, and they usually have pretty large locations, might it include the building next door too?
October 15, 20159 yr That building is two levels Not sure if they plan on using both floors or not, but I know there was an issue with the previous building owner (who also owned my building). He refused to lease out the two floors separately. If someone planned to move into the ground floor, they were responsible for also paying for rent for the top floor whether or not they planned on using the space. Fortunately, the set of buildings was sold last fall (including the building that houses winking lizard) and maybe thats why BW3 finally agreed to sign the lease. But the restaurant is the width of both buildings.
October 25, 20159 yr Prime Gateway Spot Claimed by BW3 http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2015/10/22/prime-gateway-spot-claimed-by-bw3 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 5, 20159 yr Michelle Jarboe mjarboe[/member] · 23m23 minutes ago Geis Cos. expects to remake two-story Howell Building at 921 Huron into Wild Eagle Saloon - bar, indoor bocce, vintage games, shuffleboard. Michelle Jarboe mjarboe[/member] · 14m14 minutes ago Geis seeing some design pushback re: plans for two levels of balconies on facade of Howell Bldg in downtown #CLE. Are they going for Punch Bowl Social lite? https://www.instagram.com/cle_and_beyond/https://www.instagram.com/jbkaufer/
November 5, 20159 yr More from mjarboe[/member]: Renderings of proposed facade redo of Howell Building on Huron Rd in downtown #CLE. (Trying to get hi-res versions.) https://t.co/cu8pLTerbs "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 5, 20159 yr In this day and age, who would think that this is a good idea? (Image from mjarboe[/member])
November 5, 20159 yr I'm happy Geis is able to get stuff done, but my aesthetic and style preferences could not be any further from theirs. That thing* looks ridiculous. And since it is a substantial encumbrance on a public right of way, I'd have no problem just saying no. *Edit: I meant the balconies when I wrote that, but that sign, oh my.
November 5, 20159 yr Michelle Jarboe mjarboe[/member] 46m46 minutes ago Renderings of proposed facade redo of Howell Building on Huron Rd in downtown #CLE. (Trying to get hi-res versions.) Wow, that's...something. Sometimes I wish Geis did not do in-house design work.
November 5, 20159 yr More from mjarboe[/member]: Renderings of proposed facade redo of Howell Building on Huron Rd in downtown #CLE. (Trying to get hi-res versions.) https://t.co/cu8pLTerbs Is that balcony "Cleveland Brown" orange?
November 5, 20159 yr This is such a nice building. Something fit for a boutique law firm or the likes. Definitely not this. Even a single family residence would be a better fit here.
November 5, 20159 yr I am surprisingly not completely against it. I think it looks very Bourbon Streetish and is unique to Cleveland. Plus the way the road bends there, it will offer really good views of a cool little intersection. Yeah the building is historic, but I personally don't find it to be all that extravagant. Just my opinion
November 5, 20159 yr The concept dosent fit the area, IMHO. I think this is something the WH district could use, to infuse some new life, but not here. It's not necessarily the design I'm hung up on.
November 8, 20159 yr I'm not opposed to it. Yeah the sign is gaudy but I think we need more gaudy lol
November 8, 20159 yr Is it not possible for a rooftop patio? Like green house tavern or Red Steakhouse? If the business is going to be there I think this is a great option if possible.
November 19, 20159 yr Geis has toned down the plans for Wild Eagle a bit. Still not a fan of the sign: http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2015/11202015/index.php
November 19, 20159 yr ^ That's much less terrible. Still not great, but a major improvement on the previous plan.
November 23, 20159 yr Author Resurgent apartment market resurrects Cleveland building (With photo gallery) "Demand for Southworth’s rentals is such that Rich Cicerchi, whose Cicerchi Development Corp. of Cleveland owns the building through an affiliate, said prospective tenants will start moving in Dec. 1 although construction will be incomplete. Construction workers will be finishing the job on a floor-by-floor basis through early next year." http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20151123/RENEWSLETTER/151129931/resurgent-apartment-market-resurrects-cleveland-building-with-photo#utm_medium=email&utm_source=ccl-realestatereport&utm_campaign=ccl-realestatereport-20151123
December 16, 20159 yr Work being done on 811 prospect where a new Moxie is proposed to open. See ya New York Spaghetti House This is where the old Tops and Bottoms strip club was. It was closed down after a shooting in 2013. Not sure how old the sign is. I think this is the buildout of the BW3s. Ontario side: Prospect side:
December 17, 20159 yr ^^^^What is going in place of the New York Spaghetti House? A parking lot. [emoji19] but supposedly a temporary one. Geis has or will be planning a larger development for the site. I believe
December 17, 20159 yr ^^^^What is going in place of the New York Spaghetti House? IIRC, a parking lot. Apparently Geis has plans to build on the spot, but it seems to be a few years off.
December 17, 20159 yr Can someone point me to an area that explains the process for demolition and future use?
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