Interesting to see SHoP as the architect for just a rooftop signage project...

 

Definitely. I didn't think they did small projects. They're one of the leading architects on Philadelphia's $3.5 billion Schuylkill Yards development.

After a little research looks like Dan Gilbert and SHop are involved in a couple of proposed projects in Detroit. So it looks like there is a relationship.

 

Edit: One last point on the rehab of the 'Q' . When it was first made public in late '14 that a proposal was being put together to present to the county for the rehab it was rumored that a very glassy facade was the look that was being discussed for the 'Q'. So this is just speculation on my part but SHop has done this before.  Forest City brought in SHop to jazz up the exterior of the Barclay Center after the early renderings from Ellerby Becket were disappointing. So SHop was brought in as the Facade Architect. So maybe something is in the works.

Very interesting, freethink!

Yes, this has me very intrigued.

Plans for Quicken Loans Arena roof revamp include giant (360'-by-90') LED sign: https://t.co/oy0pgm3uyU

 

Based on the slideshow photos on Cleveland.com, I have to say they were VERY thorough in their proposal to show that no new signage at all would be visible from just about every single street in the city lol

I think lighting up a whole big rectangle looks pretty tacky, and not in any way creative use of LEDs. Then they show us a whole bunch of pictures of roof signage that all look 10x better. Way to sell it.

Can one imagine looking down from one's 50th floor apt/condo from Nucleus and seeing Dan Gilbert trying to sell you a loan. I would not want this. But then maybe Dan has another idea about his roof-top LED sign. Maybe those living in the Nucleus could rent the sign as needed to say "Happy Birthday", "Happy Anniversary", etc, to their loved one for a price. Can one imagine how happy their love one would be seeing their name in such splendor. I know the Terminal Tower takes request from individuals/corporations for lighting up the top of the TC.

Regarding the roof sign on the 'Q' . To me it's upside down.  When a blimp/copter/drone flies over for a shot they would approach from the North to view the sign,  totally missing a shot of the skyline/lake in the background. The best shot would be to approach from the south coming toward the city with a view of the 'Q' and the city/lake in the background.  And yes I was also hoping for something like the  StaplesCenter/AT&T sign. Or something like this...

According to the Plain Dealer article, the picture would be static, with the name of the company and maybe a logo. But that's it.

 

I hate to be that guy, but this is prohibited in the city. The cavs say they get no extra money from doing this (obviously Dan will get some free pub). So why let them?

 

Edit: spelling

Why do we have anti-signage laws?  Signage is part of commerce.  We like commerce, don't we?

Why do we have anti-signage laws?  Signage is part of commerce.  We like commerce, don't we?

 

I love seeing vintage pics of Cleveland and Akron with all the commercial signage. I don't see the point in an outright limitation.

http://www.wildeagle.com

Damn, this project is moving fast.

 

 

 

I wonder if this is the kind of place Jack would hang out at before and after gambling...

Jack, that rascal.  I could see him popping by the inebriation station.

It's interesting how there was such a stink about the Indian head on the exterior sign, yet it still shows up as an etching or whatever in the glass doors.

Oh my god that web site.

The "mischief" begins this Wednesday

 

Not my style, but hopefully it will draw the "inebriation station" types away from the other bars.  Keep them in their playpen. 

Hopefully it will fail in a year and the damage to the building can be undone.

Hopefully it will fail in a year and the damage to the building can be undone.

Oh come on. The sign is tacky and the clientele will be insufferable but the building is fine. I'm not praying for it to fail because this city already has plenty of empty storefronts, and it's not like this is on Euclid or E. 4th.

The sign would have looked less tacky if the chief head had not been blocked. Now there is no signature element.

I welcome any new establishment in downtown Cle, but Wild Eagle just doesn't seem to be a good fit for this location between Gateway and PHS.  Maybe if it were kitty-corner across the 5-points intersection next to the Clevelander and the other drinking joints.

The sign would have looked less tacky if the chief head had not been blocked. Now there is no signature element.

Or maybe the logo could have been something like an eagle or something...

A lot of people hating on the Wild Eagle Saloon, but damn, look at this menu. I wish I didn't live right across the street...I'm going to gain 10 pounds

 

http://media.wix.com/ugd/e8de6d_870873bb4aa244a98fa9738bc7e1d83e.pdf

 

i wish theyd get rid of the Tremont leg lamps in all 3 windows of the second floor.

thats the only thing that galls me

Lots of hate for a place that has yet to open.  I actually want to check out the indoor bocce!  They will also have live music which I think is an area that downtown is definitely lacking in.  I'll give the place a shot before I pass judgement.

There is indoor bocce at Stone Mad in Detroit Shoreway

 

My prediction for Wild Eagle, the entire staff will be 22 year old women in cheerleader outfits.  The menu / concept table side taps is a lot like a bar here in Louisiana called WalkOns.  It does really well, but it's no winking lizard

 

 

 

http://www.walk-ons.com/home-callouts/join-the-walk-ons-team

Lots of hate for a place that has yet to open.  I actually want to check out the indoor bocce!  They will also have live music which I think is an area that downtown is definitely lacking in.  I'll give the place a shot before I pass judgement.

 

Cover bands. That's the live music they're adding. And to think when we had Fat Fish Blue Robert Lockwood was playing.

Lots of hate for a place that has yet to open.  I actually want to check out the indoor bocce!  They will also have live music which I think is an area that downtown is definitely lacking in.  I'll give the place a shot before I pass judgement.

 

You're right.  I'm willing to give Wild Eagle a chance; they could work out well, and I hope they do.  One major positive is that this location has been a totally dead corner (architecturally attractive, but dead) that will likely bring foot traffic, and that's always a good thing for downtown.  And it's right next to the new County Admin building, which could be a source of revenue.

I guess I'm mostly just hating on its branding. The menu looks pretty good so I'll probably at least give it a chance. I'm just worried that the branding and marketing for this place will just attract a bunch of Johnny Manziel types.

Valid concerns no question, but I gotta say if it does well and activates the space... I don't hate it. Not for everyone but I'm not gonna knock a new business in a formerly empty space!

Another plus: "A pint of beer will fetch no more than $5.50, with most of the burgers and sandwiches on the food menu coming in under $10."

 

 

First look: Wild Eagle Saloon brings ambitious concept to downtown Cleveland

 

By John Petkovic, The Plain Dealer

on March 30, 2016 at 6:01 AM, updated March 30, 2016 at 11:16 AM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The downtown nightlife scene is like a leopard's coat – spots of activity with empty spaces in between.

 

The spots are named after streets or attached to attractions. Yes, there's West Sixth and East Fourth, but also Playhouse Square or Gateway.

 

Each have their own characteristics and crowds – foodies, diners, partyers, sport fans or suburbanites in town for an event.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/03/first_look_wild_eagle_saloon_b.html

No skin off my back, since I doubt I'll ever go in, but the generic high tops and chairs sort of kill the honky tonk charm, imho. Place just seems like a big room with a bunch of random crap scattered around. I totally get that it brings a new amenity to the neighborhood though.

There's also a "Urination Station", as seen in this photo gallery from Scene... http://photos.clevescene.com/first-look-30-photos-wild-eagle-saloon-2/

First look: Wild Eagle Saloon brings ambitious concept to downtown Cleveland

 

By John Petkovic, The Plain Dealer

on March 30, 2016 at 6:01 AM, updated March 30, 2016 at 11:16 AM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The downtown nightlife scene is like a leopard's coat – spots of activity with empty spaces in between.

 

The spots are named after streets or attached to attractions. Yes, there's West Sixth and East Fourth, but also Playhouse Square or Gateway.

 

Each have their own characteristics and crowds – foodies, diners, partyers, sport fans or suburbanites in town for an event.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/03/first_look_wild_eagle_saloon_b.html

 

Interesting note that the bar was reclaimed from the New York Spaghetti House.

Just when I thought I had accepted this place... the giant video board on E. 9th showed an advertisement explaining how soon you will be able to TAP THAT at the Wild Eagle Saloon.  Yeesh... who is in charge of the marketing?  I think they must have also planned the JACK casino campaign...  :wtf: :wtf:

First look: Wild Eagle Saloon brings ambitious concept to downtown Cleveland

 

By John Petkovic, The Plain Dealer

on March 30, 2016 at 6:01 AM, updated March 30, 2016 at 11:16 AM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The downtown nightlife scene is like a leopard's coat – spots of activity with empty spaces in between.

 

The spots are named after streets or attached to attractions. Yes, there's West Sixth and East Fourth, but also Playhouse Square or Gateway.

 

Each have their own characteristics and crowds – foodies, diners, partyers, sport fans or suburbanites in town for an event.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/03/first_look_wild_eagle_saloon_b.html

 

Interesting note that the bar was reclaimed from the New York Spaghetti House.

 

The one pearl in a sea of rotten oysters.

First look: Wild Eagle Saloon brings ambitious concept to downtown Cleveland

 

By John Petkovic, The Plain Dealer

on March 30, 2016 at 6:01 AM, updated March 30, 2016 at 11:16 AM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The downtown nightlife scene is like a leopard's coat – spots of activity with empty spaces in between.

 

The spots are named after streets or attached to attractions. Yes, there's West Sixth and East Fourth, but also Playhouse Square or Gateway.

 

Each have their own characteristics and crowds – foodies, diners, partyers, sport fans or suburbanites in town for an event.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/03/first_look_wild_eagle_saloon_b.html

 

Interesting note that the bar was reclaimed from the New York Spaghetti House.

 

Strange, I could have sworn the article mentioned "Spaghetti Warehouse."

Just when I thought I had accepted this place... the giant video board on E. 9th showed an advertisement explaining how soon you will be able to TAP THAT at the Wild Eagle Saloon.  Yeesh... who is in charge of the marketing?  I think they must have also planned the JACK casino campaign...  :wtf: :wtf:

 

You can take the developers out of Streetsboro, but you can't take the Streetsboro out of the developers.

there is always hope that it could become a biker club hangout and live up to the 'wild.'

Noticed something unexpected going up on the way home. From what it seems, Clear Choice LASIK Center will open in the 9 garage ?

I remember originally they had proposed a deli in that corner.

I guess I'm mostly just hating on its branding. The menu looks pretty good so I'll probably at least give it a chance. I'm just worried that the branding and marketing for this place will just attract a bunch of Johnny Manziel types.

 

Interesting that no one cares if you don't want a bunch of "Johnny manziel types" (ie. Bro's, frat boys, partiers) but if someone says I don't want all those low class bums on public square everyone explodes and says you need to be more 'tolerant', 'accepting' or "this is a city stay in the burbs if you dont like it".

 

I can totally see why someone wouldn't want manziel types all over but if were gonna be PC lets not be hypocritical.

I guess I'm mostly just hating on its branding. The menu looks pretty good so I'll probably at least give it a chance. I'm just worried that the branding and marketing for this place will just attract a bunch of Johnny Manziel types.

 

Interesting that no one cares if you don't want a bunch of "Johnny manziel types" (ie. Bro's, frat boys, partiers) but if someone says I don't want all those low class bums on public square everyone explodes and says you need to be more 'tolerant', 'accepting' or "this is a city stay in the burbs if you dont like it".

 

I can totally see why someone wouldn't want manziel types all over but if were gonna be PC lets not be hypocritical.

 

One group is bothering the public, the other group isn't bothering the public...

I guess I'm mostly just hating on its branding. The menu looks pretty good so I'll probably at least give it a chance. I'm just worried that the branding and marketing for this place will just attract a bunch of Johnny Manziel types.

 

Interesting that no one cares if you don't want a bunch of "Johnny manziel types" (ie. Bro's, frat boys, partiers) but if someone says I don't want all those low class bums on public square everyone explodes and says you need to be more 'tolerant', 'accepting' or "this is a city stay in the burbs if you dont like it".

 

I can totally see why someone wouldn't want manziel types all over but if were gonna be PC lets not be hypocritical.

 

One group is bothering the public, the other group isn't bothering the public...

 

Oh? and which is which?

Ask "the public."

OK, let's get back to development news and off of anybody's preference in company.

 

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(?)811, or whatever name is decided on

 

 

 

 

 

When a mod says we need to get back to the topic, that means we need to get back to the topic.  Not back to the topic after trying to get in one last comment.

 

OK, let's get back to development news and off of anybody's preference in company.