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Anyone know why the top couple floors will remain commercial? I'd assume there is a tenant in there right now that they don't want to lose but idk.

 

My dad used to work for AT&T (sometimes in that building) and he said it is jammed full of the central exchanges and switches for Cleveland (as you might imagine).  I'm guessing the top two floors will be retained by them for their cell network access.

 

I used to live in the building across the street (the finance building) on the 6th floor and we could see into the AT&T building all the time but rarely ever saw people. Mostly just servers and equipment. Pretty cool!

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Fantastic! My favorite building in Cleveland bar none.  :clap:

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Yay!  The Superman Building!

The top floors are full of equipment for cell network.  Floors 1-8 are still the central exchange, filled with switching equipment/fiber optic lines.  Would cost tens of millions to move.

Well, at least we'll have one residential high-rise on that stretch of Huron....  :-P

 

Texas developer could buy downtown Cleveland's Ohio Bell Building for apartments (photos)

By Michelle Jarboe, The Plain Dealer

on June 22, 2017 at 3:46 PM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio - A Texas developer has designs on one of downtown Cleveland's most recognizable towers, the Art Deco-style Ohio Bell Building that has been a telecommunications hub since it opened in 1927.

 

Todd Interests of Dallas has a contract to buy the 22-floor building from an affiliate of AT&T, according to documents submitted to the Cleveland Landmarks Commission. The real estate firm is exploring a partial residential conversion of the property, where AT&T maintains servers and other equipment on the lower floors but the upper levels sit empty.

 

Under the Todd Interests proposal, AT&T would stay put. Floors nine through 22 would become roughly 147 apartments and shared spaces for residents, following the trend of turning vacant or underused downtown office space into housing. Such conversion projects steadily are remaking the central business district, aided by valuable tax credits for historic preservation.

 

MORE:

http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2017/06/texas_developer_could_buy_down.html

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Hubbell & Benes designed this building to be taller. If they aren't taking advantage of historic tax credits, what a kick it would be if they took advantage of the structural ability to add on, sort of like how 515 Euclid is built on top of a garage.

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With all the investment in downtown Cleveland, how can this place continue to still be overlooked and neglected?

 

Record Rendezvous: Cleveland cradle of rock 'n' roll sits empty, awaits new life (photos)

http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2017/07/record_rendezvous_cleveland_cr.html#incart_river_home

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

  • 5 weeks later...

I've heard that Sawyer's restaurants in general are not doing well - which I found hard to believe. Hope this is not an indication of more to come.

^ I'm not sure about his other restaurants but Noodlecat has always seemed average to me especially since the switched to a fast casual concept

^^i cant speak to this, but any time i have ever been in greenhouse or trentina there have always been nice crowds.  I havent been to Noodlecat in a while, but i always loved that presence there on Euclid...this is disappointing to say the least.  The Trattner article says Sawyer sought more foot traffic...i mean, of course...thats why banana republic and all those stores are out there.  The issue i have, isnt Sawyer one of our pioneers to combat this?  Bummer to say the least.  I understand money is money, but when your creative class of people falls victim to sprawl, it disappoints. Hopefully his work at Van Aken will be special

I loved the Noodlecat concept, but not at that price point.

Yeah, why did Sawyer pack up Noodlecat at for Crocker Park.  Seems like a slap in the face.

It is a slap....especially because he preaches how much of a pioneer he is.  But on the flip side, I've talked with several downtown residents who live right there who say they have no idea how any of those places stay open on Euclid.  All they get is a lunch crowd.  They are empty at dinner time and weekends.  Downtown needs more people, not only residents....but jobs.

Not just jobs but jobs of all kinds that people work beyond just 9-5.  Only two TV stations are in downtown proper I think--channel 3 and whatevers at 12th and Chester. The Plain Dealer IS there (Skylight office tower), CPD HQ, other restaurants, hotel workers....but not many others esp the creative/media workers which are not necessarily 9-5.

 

I liked Noodlecat--thought it was a little pricey for the quantity--though that never stopped me from going there. But, I too, witnessed a usually pretty empty place during the times which I've been there.

It is a slap....especially because he preaches how much of a pioneer he is.  But on the flip side, I've talked with several downtown residents who live right there who say they have no idea how any of those places stay open on Euclid.  All they get is a lunch crowd.  They are empty at dinner time and weekends.  Downtown needs more people, not only residents....but jobs.

 

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I liked the Noodlecat concept, but it had some issues. The noodles were often so unbearably salty I couldn't eat more than half, even if I was very hungry. The steam bun sandwiches were good, but too expensive for their small size. I think it closed for these reasons more than this being part of a wider trend of restaurants closing downtown. I'm not too worried about this space staying empty for too long.

^ slightly off topic, but I must share, for REALLY good steam bun sandwiches, try Roxu on Madison in Lakewood. very delicious (but slow service).

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^Great news as I love the noodle concept and was sad to see it leave Downtown.

  • 4 months later...

There is signage up in the windows of the empty storefront at 1012 Prospect Ave for a Dominos Pizza place.

There is signage up in the windows of the empty storefront at 1012 Prospect Ave for a Dominos Pizza place.

 

Nice, the locally owned neighborhood joint, Dominos (Duh-mee-nose)

There is signage up in the windows of the empty storefront at 1012 Prospect Ave for a Dominos Pizza place.

 

Nice, the locally owned neighborhood joint, Dominos (Duh-mee-nose)

Delete.

There is signage up in the windows of the empty storefront at 1012 Prospect Ave for a Dominos Pizza place.

 

Nice, the locally owned neighborhood joint, Dominos (Duh-mee-nose)

 

that place is owned by a nice old couple.  Mamma and Pappa Domino

Southern tier is excellent! Nice gain for Gateway.

Great news for sure, especially considering my office is right across the street.

  • 4 weeks later...

Anyone hear the Tilted Kilt becoming a Panini's? There is a new sign order up at design review for  21 Prospect Ave. Also on the TK website Cleveland is no longer listed.

Anyone hear the Tilted Kilt becoming a Panini's? There is a new sign order up at design review for  21 Prospect Ave. Also on the TK website Cleveland is no longer listed.

 

Just walked by there. Tilted Kilt is still open.

Hmm...must be a mistake then, or a change is in the works.

 

PANINI'S

Downtown/Flats Case #  DF 2018-003

Address: 21 Prospect Avenue

Company: Cicogna Signs

Architect: Cicogna Sign

New Signage.

For some reason I thought there were many many panini's in town and thought 'ugh....another one' but just checking now, i see only two---Westlake and 9th & Huron.  Was I imagining the many locations or did they once really have many spots?

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For some reason I thought there were many many panini's in town and thought 'ugh....another one' but just checking now, i see only two---Westlake and 9th & Huron.  Was I imagining the many locations or did they once really have many spots?

Wasn't there one on W 6th?

For some reason I thought there were many many panini's in town and thought 'ugh....another one' but just checking now, i see only two---Westlake and 9th & Huron.  Was I imagining the many locations or did they once really have many spots?

 

Still one in Strongsville also...

 

Here's a list of their locations: https://paninisgrill.com/locations/

I believe the TK franchise is operated by the same folks as Paninis, as well as Harry Buff

Seems like something may still be afoot though. As freethink points out, the location isn't listed on the TK website.

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I believe the TK franchise is operated by the same folks as Paninis, as well as Harry Buff

 

I believed TK was supposed to open a location in the flats as a Panini's, in between Collision Bend and Coastal Taco.

I wonder if this will replace the East Ninth Location... seems like a much better spot for staying busy year-round, while the E. 9th spot is usually only busy during the summer/Tribe season

I wonder if this will replace the East Ninth Location... seems like a much better spot for staying busy year-round, while the E. 9th spot is usually only busy during the summer/Tribe season

 

That sounds like a fair assumption. It wouldn't make sense to me to have two locations just 1/3 of a mile from each other, both in the Gateway District.

Few things beat the steady, substantial revenues from a downtown lunch hour. I'll never forget the pizza chain Sgt. Pepperoni's which in the 1990s had several suburban locations and the downtown location in the Arcade. Their president told me that the downtown location earned as much revenue per day as all of the suburban locations combined. When the Arcade was renovated, its downtown store closed. And then, so did the rest of the chain.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

So Where is Panini's moving from and to where?

I believe the TK franchise is operated by the same folks as Paninis, as well as Harry Buff

 

That's a different group.  The folks that own this TK only own the Panini's in Kent and Brunswick.

I also saw Erie Street bookstore in the same building as the Gateway Paninis just closed, maybe the landlord is trying to redevelop the property. The Gateway location is pretty dingy.

It's kind of odd if you think about it. I mean no announcement from either TK or Panini's up to this point.  The Scene is usually all over this kind of stuff, they love when things close...So one day the girls are wearing kilts the next day there wearing shorts.

The book store next to Panini's closed abruptly. If Panini's moves like we're expecting, the entire first floor would become vacant at the same time. Something bigger might be afoot. Anybody know anything else about the building? Like who the owners are or if the other floors are vacant.

 

https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2018/02/14/movers-actively-clearing-out-old-erie-street-bookstore-downtown

 

This building has been owned by KNIGHT CENTER CORP since at least 1975 (computerized real estate records in Cuyahoga County do go back any further). No sales or other transfers are publicly listed at this time.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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