November 16, 20222 yr 2 hours ago, roman totale XVII said: ^ I’m not gonna fight your main point, which is valid, but this kind of thing is a lot easier to do when your stadium is out of town and in the middle of an ocean of surface parking lots. Having been to Kauffman, I’d say these plans probably bring it up to around where Progressive Field is already in terms of ‘facilities and things to do in the immediate vicinity’. It’s currently like the Guardians home field being at the I-X Center. The plans are a new stadium in downtown KC. Downtown being the village.
November 16, 20222 yr Progressive is still one of the better places in the major leagues to see a game and I love that it’s in the heart of downtown. No, though there’s no ballpark village - but you’re really close to a lot of bars and restaurants - easy walk to a lot of them. I’m more concerned about what’s happening - or not happening - with what used to be the Nucleus site - what we heard might become an even bigger project site - courtesy of Bedrock. That’s gone completely quiet. I’d also love to hear that we’re going to actually get some kind of residential tower somewhere in the district just beyond the outfield. That’ topic has also been very quiet. Christmas isn’t far off - 🤔 - can we get a surprise, please?
November 16, 20222 yr 3 hours ago, CleveFan said: Progressive is still one of the better places in the major leagues to see a game and I love that it’s in the heart of downtown. No, though there’s no ballpark village - but you’re really close to a lot of bars and restaurants - easy walk to a lot of them. I’m more concerned about what’s happening - or not happening - with what used to be the Nucleus site - what we heard might become an even bigger project site - courtesy of Bedrock. That’s gone completely quiet. I’d also love to hear that we’re going to actually get some kind of residential tower somewhere in the district just beyond the outfield. That’ topic has also been very quiet. Christmas isn’t far off - 🤔 - can we get a surprise, please? Agreed. The last good news we have gotten was the approval of the apartment complex on Bolivar, east of 9th. Any updates on that?
November 16, 20222 yr 7 hours ago, marty15 said: The plans are a new stadium in downtown KC. Downtown being the village. Whoops. My bad, I should’ve read it properly instead of looking at the pictures. Thanks. My hovercraft is full of eels
November 16, 20222 yr 7 hours ago, CleveFan said: Progressive is still one of the better places in the major leagues to see a game and I love that it’s in the heart of downtown. No, though there’s no ballpark village - but you’re really close to a lot of bars and restaurants - easy walk to a lot of them. I’m more concerned about what’s happening - or not happening - with what used to be the Nucleus site - what we heard might become an even bigger project site - courtesy of Bedrock. That’s gone completely quiet. I’d also love to hear that we’re going to actually get some kind of residential tower somewhere in the district just beyond the outfield. That’ topic has also been very quiet. Christmas isn’t far off - 🤔 - can we get a surprise, please? I think the rise in interest rates has shelved all of it, for now. Mortgage applications have collapsed, Rocket is laying people off right now. Combine that with increased financing costs.
November 16, 20222 yr 7 hours ago, CleveFan said: Progressive is still one of the better places in the major leagues to see a game and I love that it’s in the heart of downtown. No, though there’s no ballpark village - but you’re really close to a lot of bars and restaurants - easy walk to a lot of them. I’m more concerned about what’s happening - or not happening - with what used to be the Nucleus site - what we heard might become an even bigger project site - courtesy of Bedrock. That’s gone completely quiet. I’d also love to hear that we’re going to actually get some kind of residential tower somewhere in the district just beyond the outfield. That’ topic has also been very quiet. Christmas isn’t far off - 🤔 - can we get a surprise, please? Bedrock apparently has backed out of the deal. There is at least one other suitor. Guardians aren't going to do anything with the development parcel until after the ballpark renovation and the team sells. 3 hours ago, GREGinPARMA said: Agreed. The last good news we have gotten was the approval of the apartment complex on Bolivar, east of 9th. Any updates on that? Look for construction to start after the first of the year. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 16, 20222 yr 7 hours ago, CleveFan said: Progressive is still one of the better places in the major leagues to see a game and I love that it’s in the heart of downtown. No, though there’s no ballpark village - but you’re really close to a lot of bars and restaurants - easy walk to a lot of them. I’m more concerned about what’s happening - or not happening - with what used to be the Nucleus site - what we heard might become an even bigger project site - courtesy of Bedrock. That’s gone completely quiet. I’d also love to hear that we’re going to actually get some kind of residential tower somewhere in the district just beyond the outfield. That’ topic has also been very quiet. Christmas isn’t far off - 🤔 - can we get a surprise, please? 7 minutes ago, marty15 said: I think the rise in interest rates has shelved all of it, for now. Mortgage applications have collapsed, Rocket is laying people off right now. Combine that with increased financing costs. Plus @KJP has explained in the past, Bedrock is probably no longer interested in the Nucleus site. The focus of their future development will be behind Tower City and along the river. However, as @marty15 has suggested, any trigger on that planning is probably on hold for the reasons he stated. So bottom line, at this point the Nucleus site is in the hands of Stark and will probably be a parking lot for a long time unless they sell it to another developer.
November 16, 20222 yr 3 hours ago, GREGinPARMA said: Agreed. The last good news we have gotten was the approval of the apartment complex on Bolivar, east of 9th. Any updates on that? 9 minutes ago, KJP said: Bedrock apparently has backed out of the deal. There is at least one other suitor. Guardians aren't going to do anything with the development parcel until after the ballpark renovation and the team sells. Look for construction to start after the first of the year. The developers were before the Board of Zoning appeals this week and were granted their requested variances. Looks like they should be ready to go in the new year like @KJP suggests and are clearly doing all the necessary leg work to make that happen. Edited November 16, 20222 yr by Htsguy
November 22, 20222 yr On the UCC building - let the power company in! (peeking in the windows it seems like UCC pretty much emptied out everything in preparation for the sale/for the sale).
December 8, 20222 yr Couple updates - Parlay (in old Panini's space) looks about ready from my window peeking (Other bar news: AJ Roccos still isn't ready, Re:Bar now has La Plaza in there which is amazing): Underground Storage Tank prep ongoing at the gas station: Foggy night at the stadium: Update: La Plaza is fitting the space out but it also looks VERY close, like liquor bottles at the bar close. There were some folks inside doing work so didn't want to be a total creep putting my phone up to the window lol maybe tomorrow. @marty15@KJP PS sitting at clevelander and Parlay has their wifi on, it's that close lol Edited December 9, 20222 yr by GISguy
December 8, 20222 yr Thanks for sharing. Looks like a step up from Panini's - not that this was a high bar.
December 8, 20222 yr 56 minutes ago, GISguy said: 29 minutes ago, OldEnough said: Thanks for sharing. Looks like a step up from Panini's - not that this was a high bar. 🤣🤣😉
December 8, 20222 yr 2 hours ago, GISguy said: Couple updates - Parlay (in old Panini's space) looks about ready from my window peeking (Other bar news: AJ Roccos still isn't ready, Re:Bar now has La Plaza in there which is amazing): Underground Storage Tank prep ongoing at the gas station: Foggy night at the stadium: What a great turnaround for the 9th & Huron/Prospect corner!
December 8, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, marty15 said: What a great turnaround for the 9th & Huron/Prospect corner! Really hoping AJ's isn't in trouble or anything they've been working on that space forever! Just looked they still have plywood covering the second floor window. They were bringing things via that a year ago.
December 12, 20222 yr I think they’re aiming for a spring or summer 2023 opening. I believe they’ve just had some slow goings and delays but still totally plan to get it wrapped up as quick as they can. Can’t wait!
December 17, 20222 yr Brownfield grants reveal progress on many projects By Ken Prendergast / December 17, 2022 Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine announced $88 million in state support for 123 brownfield remediation projects that will help clean up hazardous and underutilized sites throughout the state. The Ohio Department of Development is funding the awards through the Ohio Brownfield Remediation Program, which is designed to clean up and prepare hazardous brownfield sites for redevelopment. The projects announced today will impact communities in 35 counties across the state. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2022/12/17/brownfield-grants-reveal-progress-on-many-projects/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 18, 20222 yr ^ o gee so now ohio taxpayers have to cover the cleanup of what polluting businesses left behind again. free wheelin’ capitalism is sooo great — a salute to all my corporate friiiiiiends!
December 18, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, mrnyc said: ^ o gee so now ohio taxpayers have to cover the cleanup of what polluting businesses left behind again. free wheelin’ capitalism is sooo great — a salute to all my corporate friiiiiiends! Hey you with the filthy apron!
December 18, 20222 yr 14 hours ago, mrnyc said: ^ o gee so now ohio taxpayers have to cover the cleanup of what polluting businesses left behind again. free wheelin’ capitalism is sooo great — a salute to all my corporate friiiiiiends! Privatize the profits, socialize expenses 😔 But at least they are getting cleaned up.
January 6, 20232 yr Crain’s reports that Bedrock has purchased the Nucleus site. Almost makes me want to subscribe!
January 6, 20232 yr ^ You should be able to read Crain's articles via your library account, if you have one.
January 6, 20232 yr 21 minutes ago, JohnSummit said: Crain’s reports that Bedrock has purchased the Nucleus site. Almost makes me want to subscribe! Give it a few minutes @KJP will have an article soon.
January 6, 20232 yr It will be posted in the Gateway megaprojects thread. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 12, 20232 yr Not entirely sure this is relevant in this thread, but the casino looks to have had some decent movement lately. Sportsbook now open and a Starbucks opened at the tail end of November. Jack have opened their own online sportsbook so I guess they've probably added staff to reflect this also.
January 12, 20232 yr 13 hours ago, snakebite said: Not entirely sure this is relevant in this thread, but the casino looks to have had some decent movement lately. Sportsbook now open and a Starbucks opened at the tail end of November. Jack have opened their own online sportsbook so I guess they've probably added staff to reflect this also. Where is the starbucks located?
January 12, 20232 yr 24 minutes ago, Cleburger said: Where is the starbucks located? The second floor. They are advertising like crazy to us folks living in Terminal Tower.
January 17, 20232 yr Solstice Roasters to Open Cafe in Former Peterson Nut Space This Week By Douglas Trattner on Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 1:34 pm It’s been more than two years since Joe Deinhart of Solstice Roasters announced his plans to a open a new roastery and café in the former Peterson Nut Co. space (1101 Carnegie Ave.) in the Gateway District. At long last, that café will open to the public this week. https://www.clevescene.com/food-drink/solstice-roasters-to-open-cafe-in-former-peterson-nut-space-this-week-41228297?fbclid=IwAR3oSzKeIHe0B_THj451ecD464ZitvZWFh95WpaVYKNdx3Hclujx5TvnBkI&mibextid=Zxz2cZ
February 21, 20232 yr Demolition permit submitted for the older parking garage to make way for the Bolivar Apartments. Nice to see some movement on this project. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 21, 20232 yr On 5/1/2019 at 10:32 AM, KJP said: Geis has no desire to be in the parking business. And they paid more than a million dollars for the NY Spaghetti property. It would like to get their investment back in terms of something that generates some decent revenue. And the city put a 5 year clock on them doing something with that site other than parking. That 5 year clock runs out next year. I assume the 5 year clock stopped when Covid hit. Has it restarted yet?
February 21, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, KJP said: Demolition permit submitted for the older parking garage to make way for the Bolivar Apartments. Nice to see some movement on this project. Do you think Bolivar apartments should have its own thread?
February 21, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, LibertyBlvd said: I assume the 5 year clock stopped when Covid hit. Has it restarted yet? Probably. But Geis doesn't want to develop it themselves. It's why they put the property on the market in 2021. I'm sure they would be happy being the construction manager and then maintain a building once built. 5 minutes ago, simplythis said: Do you think Bolivar apartments should have its own thread? I'm kind of surprised it doesn't, yes. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 21, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Htsguy said: Has the city ever actually enforced that 5 year rule any where in the city? What are the penalties? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 21, 20232 yr 38 minutes ago, KJP said: What are the penalties? I have no idea. You just keep hearing about it. For all I know it is a urban legend rather than city policy.
February 23, 20232 yr Seeds & Sprouts XXVII – downtown Apts groundbreaking due, Factory to be Artist studios, Urgent Care tosses Pizza Hut By Ken Prendergast / February 23, 2023 Groundbreaking due for downtown apartments The first sign of progress that’s visible on the landscape for The Apartments At Bolivar is expected to appear in mid-March when a groundbreaking for the large, planned apartment complex is due to be held, according to sources familiar with the project. But the first actual sign of construction activity must first begin with a demolition to help clear the way for site preparation and construction of this development in downtown Cleveland’s Gateway District. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/02/23/seeds-sprouts-xxvii-downtown-apts-groundbreaking-due-factory-to-be-artist-studios-urgent-care-tosses-pizza-hut/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 23, 20232 yr Will this require a stationary tower crane? Edited February 23, 20232 yr by Cleveland
February 23, 20232 yr I would say a regular tower crane will go up fir this. ASAP too. No foundations or sitework obviously needs done. There appears to be zero room for a crawling crane anywhere. So what is this, 9 stories?
February 23, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Jenny said: I would say a regular tower crane will go up fir this. ASAP too. No foundations or sitework obviously needs done. There appears to be zero room for a crawling crane anywhere. So what is this, 9 stories? Only seven stories (it's in the article 🙂 ). If a tower crane is needed, it would be for the 50,000-square-foot footprint of the building and not the height. Although if this was Nashville, there would be one. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 23, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, KJP said: Seeds & Sprouts XXVII – downtown Apts groundbreaking due, Factory to be Artist studios, Urgent Care tosses Pizza Hut By Ken Prendergast / February 23, 2023 Groundbreaking due for downtown apartments The first sign of progress that’s visible on the landscape for The Apartments At Bolivar is expected to appear in mid-March when a groundbreaking for the large, planned apartment complex is due to be held, according to sources familiar with the project. But the first actual sign of construction activity must first begin with a demolition to help clear the way for site preparation and construction of this development in downtown Cleveland’s Gateway District. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/02/23/seeds-sprouts-xxvii-downtown-apts-groundbreaking-due-factory-to-be-artist-studios-urgent-care-tosses-pizza-hut/ Awesome article KJP. Is there a chance you can create a separate thread for The Apartments at Bolivar because i don't know if anyone knows how to do it.
February 23, 20232 yr By request, here it is...... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 24, 20232 yr Hoping for a bar/restaurant here. New spot for Guardians game attendees among other things. But 3,331 sq ft of retail spread out over three spaces...
February 24, 20232 yr Hoping for a bar/restaurant here. New spot for Guardians game attendees among other things. But 3,331 sq ft of retail spread out over three spaces...I’m so tired of bars and restaurants we need to start getting creative with leases. Maybe 6 months to a year of free or reduced rent to entice someone besides a bar to come down. With less people downtown we may have reached a saturation point for restaurants Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
February 24, 20232 yr 14 minutes ago, MyPhoneDead said: I’m so tired of bars and restaurants we need to start getting creative with leases. Maybe 6 months to a year of free or reduced rent to entice someone besides a bar to come down. With less people downtown we may have reached a saturation point for restaurants Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The article mentioned a cafe too. Like we need even more of those
February 24, 20232 yr 58 minutes ago, GREGinPARMA said: The article mentioned a cafe too. Like we need even more of those With hybrid and work from home trends cafes are getting way more popular with workers so I can see having a cafe in an apartment building a big draw to perspective tenants. If I worked from home every day I would absolutely love to be able to walk to a coffee shop to work just to get out of the house. So I'm not surprised we may see one here just like INTRO did
February 24, 20232 yr The old New York Spaghetti House is still in that image. They could have airbrushed it out.
February 24, 20232 yr Let's talk about it here "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 24, 20232 yr 28 minutes ago, dwolfi01 said: With hybrid and work from home trends cafes are getting way more popular with workers so I can see having a cafe in an apartment building a big draw to perspective tenants. If I worked from home every day I would absolutely love to be able to walk to a coffee shop to work just to get out of the house. So I'm not surprised we may see one here just like INTRO did great point. touche
February 24, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, MyPhoneDead said: I’m so tired of bars and restaurants we need to start getting creative with leases. Maybe 6 months to a year of free or reduced rent to entice someone besides a bar to come down. With less people downtown we may have reached a saturation point for restaurants Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I agree that I would like to have something different from a bar or restaurant, but I guess the market is going to determine people want/need and what will and won't succeed. If it is a bar/restaurant, hoping it's something different and better than what's in the area, so that if we have indeed reached a saturation point for restaurants, we have an upgrade. Then whatever current bar/restaurant doesn't make it, turns into some sort of other downtown amenity. Basically I don't really care what it becomes so long as it improves downtown. I wish I had a great idea of what would be a can't miss profitable business in that spot that's not a bar/restaurant. There's all sorts of things I want, but would they be profitable?
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