During War Pigs Ozzy just got to sing whatever since the record wasn't out yet and people were feeling it, mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. Those aren't the demo lyrics either.

 

I bet hipsters like this though:

 

 

Ja, mann, ich bin graben dass das verrückt takt.

It looks like Korea was the first to think of spelling ironic words with solar panels...ffwd to 6:15 for the word "BIFF":

its just advertising

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busan_International_Film_Festival

 

I just don't understand the universal hate, dislike of hipsters.

The Bay is fighting back:

 

^ lol ... C-Dawg, wasn't this you a few years back? ;)

I just don't understand the universal hate, dislike of hipsters.

 

Neither do I. They're a group of people who have fully embraced urban living and have had a huge effect on a lot of cities that otherwise weren't seeing people choose the urban life.

 

Frankly this entire thread is childish at best. "omg I don't agree with how these people live let's make an entire thread where we discuss how silly they are and how much better we think we are." It's ridiculous and isn't the kind of topic we need on these boards which are supposed to be embracing those people who choose the urban life.

Relax guys .... it's all in jest. Besides, we all have a little hipster in us no matter what we think. :)

Is it though? A lot of the posts in this thread are playful and harmless, sure. But there are a handful of people who have posted things that are flat out discriminatory and generalizations. It's still a shitty thread. Imagine if someone stumbled upon this site, was excited to have found a group that talks about urbanism in Ohio, and then looks at recent posts and sees the Hipster thread. Think about the image this thread gives these boards to someone unfamiliar with the site. It's not a good one.

Is it though? A lot of the posts in this thread are playful and harmless, sure. But there are a handful of people who have posted things that are flat out discriminatory and generalizations. It's still a shitty thread. Imagine if someone stumbled upon this site, was excited to have found a group that talks about urbanism in Ohio, and then looks at recent posts and sees the Hipster thread. Think about the image this thread gives these boards to someone unfamiliar with the site. It's not a good one.

Those people probably question the hygiene of hipsters as well!  Ziiiiiinnnnnng!

Alright well I gave my opinion on the matter. It, along with other things I've seen, really seem to show a reduction in care about insulting posts, especially those by the starter of this thread. But it's not up to me what happens on these boards obviously so I'll just avoid this specific thread.

The Bay

 

Not to elicit 10 more paragraphs about "The Bay" (the absolute last thing this Board needs), but this is further confirmation what I said a few months ago about "Area" being dropped....

... especially those by the starter of this thread....

 

The starter of this thread is the biggest hipster in the buckeye state.

Alright well I gave my opinion on the matter. It, along with other things I've seen, really seem to show a reduction in care about insulting posts, especially those by the starter of this thread. But it's not up to me what happens on these boards obviously so I'll just avoid this specific thread.

Seriously.  I understand your post and the point you're trying to convey.  However, I do not think that a person will read this thread and make a decision or base/rate the overall quality of the forum solely on the content of this thread.

Probably not, but why bother having a thread that could potentially discriminate against anyone? Why not have a "poor people" thread? Or how about a "stay at home mom" thread? Or any other silly thread idea that does nothing OTHER than turn people off and make for a less friendly environment?

Probably not, but why bother having a thread that could potentially discriminate against anyone? Why not have a "poor people" thread? Or how about a "stay at home mom" thread? Or any other silly thread idea that does nothing OTHER than turn people off and make for a less friendly environment?

 

This is in the Urban Bar section, which is filled for lots of light, funny and off topic content.

 

If a first time visitor to UO thinks this thread is offense, then I hope they do not open THIS thread!  thankyouverymuch  ;D ;D ;D

I guess all I'm trying to get at is that it's very often taken well beyond the "light, funny" and delves merrily into the "insulting, discriminating" which wreaks more of high school gossip than adults conversing and having a good time

Probably not, but why bother having a thread that could potentially discriminate against anyone? Why not have a "poor people" thread? Or how about a "stay at home mom" thread? Or any other silly thread idea that does nothing OTHER than turn people off and make for a less friendly environment?

 

I have tried, many times, to start a "Women be shoppin' " thread, and it never goes anywhere.

that's because it always turns into an "mts be shoppin' " thread.

that's because it always turns into an "mts be shoppin' " thread.

^ Look at those earrings. You know she be shoppin'!!!

^ Look at those earrings. You know she be shoppin'!!!

The End of Hipster?

 

http://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2014/jun/22/end-of-the-hipster-flat-caps-and-beards

 

And what is Normcore?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normcore

From that "The End of Hipster" article

 

This lack of visual disparity has probably led to society's fondness for hipster-bashing. As Alex Miller, UK editor-in-chief of Vice, explains: "I couldn't define a hipster. I guess it's 'The Other'. But as a general term it's blown up because people finally realised they had a word to mock something cool and young which they didn't understand."

 

It's an age-old scenario. In Distinction, his 1979 report on the social logic of taste, French academic Pierre Bourdieu wrote that "social identity lies in difference, and difference is asserted against what is closest, which represents the greatest threat". So our inability to define a hipster merely fuels the enigma.

I have no problem identifying a hispter w

... especially those by the starter of this thread....

 

The starter of this thread is the biggest hipster in the buckeye state.

 

Nice try.  As I've already acknowledged, I've been aggressively and consciously "norm-core" since age 17, about 17 years before that term appeared.  And actually I was norm-core from age 0 through 15, with that brief deviation in my 16th year being the purchase of a few Andre the Giant Has a Posse shirts from Shepard Fairy himself, back when you wrote him personally at his apartment in Rhode Island and sent him cash in the mail.  I sent that MF upwards of $100 for a variety of shirts and stickers, and then he sold out on me and everyone else who spread his gospel back in the early-mid 90s. 

So one of these dumb websites coined the term "Columbusing" to describe white people who think that they discovered something:

 

 

I wish Columbus made more sense to me even after 25 total years here. I need to Columbus Columbus. This city is all secrets. Perhaps we'll all learn some Saturday.

Recently I read the phrase "Millennial Brooklyn", which I think is quite useful, since it's as condescending as the phenomenon deserves. 

 

Oh, btw the fat bike is the new fixie:

 

So somebody goes and makes a water bottle carrier big enough for a growler.  So two solutions to problems that didn't exist: the monster truck of bikes and the growler.  It's like, I went to hundreds and hundreds of keg parties in college, and never once did it occur to me that the one thing this party was missing is a jug of microbrew beer in the fridge -- I mean that would make this party legendary.  It's like in 10 years getting a keg for a party will be cool again, since only the cool people will know the ancient art of keg tapping. 

A guy on a fat tired bike nearly ate it right in front of me as I was driving in the Short North on Tuesday. It had just rained and he did one of those low-sides that almost turns into a high-side. I don't think they're good on wet pavement.

*ignore*

That trail looks sooooo fun.

Actually, I think a giant beer huggie for growlers is great idea, maybe with frozen ice packs to keep it nice and cool...

Actually, I think a giant beer huggie for growlers is great idea, maybe with frozen ice packs to keep it nice and cool...

 

The Growler Koozie market is already saturated, actually. Most breweries sell them alongside their growlers, and a quick search on Etsy would likely reveal some extreme hipster versions.

 

You may be on to something with the ice packs, though. Maybe you should open up an Etsy shop?

i heard a joke! i heard a joke!

 

 

q: how much does a hipster weigh?

 

a: an instagram

 

Bit late to respond to this, but I think C-Dawg is off on a few cities small quote for reference to the thread:

 

I think three are basically three types of cities in America today- hipster dominant, hipster balanced, and hipster recessive. Lately, LA looks like it's leaning more towards hipster recessive since sex appeal still matters there and...

 

Read more: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,27586.560.html#ixzz39QfRibnI

 

Columbus is less hipster than Cincinnati - I don't think there is a single hipster neighborhood in Columbus, I even remember having conversations with hipstery friends about that in Cincy, and they mentioned basically that there isn't even a single hipster oriented hood like Northside is (yes northside is for any other weirdo that doesn't fit into Cincinnati's sometimes opressive conservatism, but still...)  OTR has a similar dynamic though tends to be richer... which brings me to Chicago...

 

Chicago is extremely hipster - and its not declining, the punk roots of hipster make it pretty solid here (there are still some legit punks here that are under 30!), particularly on the northwest side, I don't see signs at all of its decline, literally I saw a mass exodous of them out of Wicker Park about 3 years ago as rents went up and the culture shifted to Logan Square (and to a lesser extent, Pilsen, Uke Village, Noble Square, Bridgeport,Humboldt Park and Uptown).  I don't see this subsiding, only in Wicker is it lessening, but its largely a shift towards Logan Square, and Wicker Park still has a bit of "Yupster" feel left that is kind of giving way to full blown Yuppie with even a few bros here and there.  Chicago is probably the most hipster city of the Midwest even to the point where people who aren't full blown hipsters even listen to hipster music and engage in hipstery activities like bike riding  - its almost a part of mainstream culture as long as you aren't a bro or trixie (local Chicago slang for female-bro which I wish would gain traction elsewhere).

 

Btw, Silver Lake is like the first neighborhood of the part of LA I like around downtown that doesn't have the sleazyness of either the Westside (rich) or Hollywood (wannabe rich).  The hipsters are quite low key there, your right - its a pretty neighborhood too with lots of hills and great 1910s/20s architecture, doesn't feel like LA.

 

I can't comment on what's going on in various cities right now because I haven't traveled very much in the last 2-3 years.  However I did start feeling a real "disconnect" with what's motivating people right now who are about 22~ and younger.  It's really hard to figure out what the hell is motivating young people these days since there is so much culture happening on phones now and phones are not public, unlike broadcast TV and radio of the recent past. 

 

I was talking last night to a girl who is 24 who also feels disconnected and she said that people who are about 20 right now have had smart phones and have been embroiled in the parallel universe of twitter/instagram/snapchat etc since middle school.  Obviously these people had wildly different social experiences as teenagers than any previous generation, and there's really no way for older people to understand. 

 

Yeah there is a cultural shift afoot for people around 20 years old.  The teenage trends of that culture often were quite flamboyant, like the whole scenester thing that pops up now and then (seeing a video of "Blood on the Dance Floor" makes me feel like an old man) - however I'm not sure if there is a distinct culture that has taken hold - right now it seems like isolated teen cultural trends though flamboyant looks may overtake more muted looks is one thing I've noticed.

 

Btw, hipster culture really started gaining traction outside of the big cities/coastal regions about 10 years ago which means that we are overdue for another cultural shift, its going to happen very very soon - last weekend I chatted with a friend of mine about how hipster music trends have gotten really stale in rock we are kind of in an era not too much different than the end of prog rock in the 1970s, lots of rehashes with little innovation, an environment that is really ripe for upheaveal.

 

I can't imagine a generation that grew up on smart phones, that will be a radical shift.  Being at the bleeding edge of Gen Y, I at least had some pre internet exposure (though I was pretty young - the younger members of gen Y didn't even have that!).  One interesting trend is the reversal of facebook for things like snapchat - facebook being permanent and available even to parents, snapchat being fleeting.  I've never used snapchat - hearing about younger people using it makes me feel old.  (heck even this forum format is a dying thing).

Yeah as an example of flamboyant fashion black teenagers here have all the sudden started wearing 1989-1992 fashion, including the Kid & Play haircuts.  I have no idea what motivated this sudden shift away from the decades-old hip-hop attire, but I started noticing some black kids wearing white skateboarder clothes around 2008 or 2009.  Somehow this "House Party" aesthetic took off big-time in 2013.  Obviously somebody out there is manufacturing these clothes so no doubt at least some of it was a manufactured "movement".  But what's interesting to me is that this will all pass in a year and finally we might see black fashion move away from that same oversized sports jersey thing that's been going on since about 1992.  That means white kids will start moving away from that also. 

Columbus is less hipster than Cincinnati - I don't think there is a single hipster neighborhood in Columbus, I even remember having conversations with hipstery friends about that in Cincy, and they mentioned basically that there isn't even a single hipster oriented hood like Northside is (yes northside is for any other weirdo that doesn't fit into Cincinnati's sometimes opressive conservatism, but still...)  OTR has a similar dynamic though tends to be richer... which brings me to Chicago...

 

What about the Short North these days? I remember it used to be kind of the gay/eclectic area. Is it just a yuppie hood these days?

 

Chicago is extremely hipster - and its not declining, the punk roots of hipster make it pretty solid here (there are still some legit punks here that are under 30!), particularly on the northwest side, I don't see signs at all of its decline, literally I saw a mass exodous of them out of Wicker Park about 3 years ago as rents went up and the culture shifted to Logan Square (and to a lesser extent, Pilsen, Uke Village, Noble Square, Bridgeport,Humboldt Park and Uptown).  I don't see this subsiding, only in Wicker is it lessening, but its largely a shift towards Logan Square, and Wicker Park still has a bit of "Yupster" feel left that is kind of giving way to full blown Yuppie with even a few bros here and there.  Chicago is probably the most hipster city of the Midwest even to the point where people who aren't full blown hipsters even listen to hipster music and engage in hipstery activities like bike riding  - its almost a part of mainstream culture as long as you aren't a bro or trixie (local Chicago slang for female-bro which I wish would gain traction elsewhere).

 

I would not call Chicago "extremely hipster" in the overall sense (I live in Wicker Park). Yes, they're present in high numbers in the neighborhoods that you mentioned and seem to be spreading. Logan Square is going crazy with new hipster hangouts these days. However, I think there are definitely more yuppie/trixie/frat-bro types in Chicago, which dominate the downtown and the north side lakefront areas. It very much depends on the neighborhood in Chicago though. Wicker Park is certainly trending more yuppie these days, which I agree has really taken hold the past 3-5 years. Although, it still has a different vibe than the north side lakefront IMO. I would say Yupster is a good term to use for WP. There are a few "bro" bars in WP now. Those places are usually only like that on weekends though, so I'm not sure if their clientele is mostly from the neighborhood or is invading WP on the weekends.

 

I'm sure Chicago has more hipsters than any other Midwest city based on size, but not sure about per capita. I hear Minneapolis has a lot, but can't say personally since I have never been there.

 

When I was in Chicago earlier this year I saw some dude riding a bike with a big front wheelbarrow-type scoop...what was he hauling around?  You guessed it -- a 1960's-era drill press.  If I hadn't been in a hurry I would have heckled the guy.  I'm sure his parents are so proud of him. 

Yeah the bros and trixies do outnumber the hipsters by a long shot, its not like Portland (or as I understand it Austin) where the hipsters are a dominant culture but I still feel Chicago has a very strong hipster culture and things that in Cincinnati would be the "hipster stuff" are more accepted among larger groups than they were down there.  With Chicago you can draw parallels to NYC - Manhattan is kind of like the near northside (yuppie and bro predominantly), The Northwest Side is kind of like Brooklyn (minus the really bad areas) with hipsters and a few immigrant enclaves, the far Northside is like queens with semi suburban neighborhoods and lots of immigrant and ethnic diversity and finally the Southside and (barring some exceptions) and the far west is similar (though far worse) than the South Bronx.

 

I haven't been to Minneapolis either, thinking of doing a trip because I want to save up for a European vacation but still have a bad case of wanderlust (and they have a new light rail too!) - I'd imagine Minneapolis is quite hipster and some people have even stated that its like a proto-Pacific Northwest city as opposed to a standard Midwestern city in terms of culture/demographics.

 

What about the Short North these days? I remember it used to be kind of the gay/eclectic area. Is it just a yuppie hood these days?

 

Extremely yuppie, last time I was there was about 1 1/2 years ago though.  Not quite as visible a gay population as it used to be.  One thing that strikes me about Columbus btw is how it picks up on national trends faster than the rest of the state - the restaurants off high street wouldn't be out of place in a hip Chicago neighborhood, and Columbus even was the first city in Ohio to get things like Boba Tea and a barcade.

When I was in Chicago earlier this year I saw some dude riding a bike with a big front wheelbarrow-type scoop...what was he hauling around?  You guessed it -- a 1960's-era drill press.  If I hadn't been in a hurry I would have heckled the guy.  I'm sure his parents are so proud of him. 

 

Was this on Milwaukee Ave by chance?

When I was in Chicago earlier this year I saw some dude riding a bike with a big front wheelbarrow-type scoop...what was he hauling around?  You guessed it -- a 1960's-era drill press.  If I hadn't been in a hurry I would have heckled the guy.  I'm sure his parents are so proud of him. 

 

Was this on Milwaukee Ave by chance?

 

Why do you ask, Neil? Was it you?

When I was in Chicago earlier this year I saw some dude riding a bike with a big front wheelbarrow-type scoop...what was he hauling around?  You guessed it -- a 1960's-era drill press.  If I hadn't been in a hurry I would have heckled the guy.  I'm sure his parents are so proud of him. 

 

Was this on Milwaukee Ave by chance?

 

I was biking north on Ravenswood, next to the commuter rail tracks, to an Irish bar whose name I can't remember.  Somewhere around Ravenswood and Montrose. 

 

 

I feel like you've told this story before. It sounds familiar, and how many instances of a hipster riding a bike with a drill press can there be?

Yeah, I know I mentioned it somewhere else on this forum.  It was either this thread or maybe bicycle advocacy. 

Why do you ask, Neil? Was it you?

 

Lol.  Just was curious because Milwaukee is known as the hipster highway and it would have fit stereotype.

 

I was biking north on Ravenswood, next to the commuter rail tracks, to an Irish bar whose name I can't remember.  Somewhere around Ravenswood and Montrose. 

 

Probably off Wilson (its a better than average faux Irish pub that serves pretty good English curry if its the place I'm thinking off though faux irish bars are a dime a dozen) - I used to live in that neighborhood, its hardly a hipster spot, more like a somewhat family friendly low key neighborhood - older people who want a quiet part of town usually.

Yeah the bros and trixies do outnumber the hipsters by a long shot, its not like Portland (or as I understand it Austin) where the hipsters are a dominant culture but I still feel Chicago has a very strong hipster culture and things that in Cincinnati would be the "hipster stuff" are more accepted among larger groups than they were down there.  With Chicago you can draw parallels to NYC - Manhattan is kind of like the near northside (yuppie and bro predominantly), The Northwest Side is kind of like Brooklyn (minus the really bad areas) with hipsters and a few immigrant enclaves, the far Northside is like queens with semi suburban neighborhoods and lots of immigrant and ethnic diversity and finally the Southside and (barring some exceptions) and the far west is similar (though far worse) than the South Bronx.

 

My impression of NYC is that it does not have much of a "frat-bro" factor like Chicago, but I could be wrong about that. I do know some of the east side of Manhattan is like that (e.g. Murray Hill). Lower Manhattan always gave me a yupster vibe mixed in with Euro-trash. And there are of course tons of yuppies all over Manhattan. Never did spend much time in Brooklyn, but I hear it's full of hipsters. Next time I'm in NYC I plan to do some exploring in Brooklyn.

 

From my recent travels I would say that Montreal had the most overall hipster-ish vibe I have experienced in a North American city (it made Chicago look like a city full of squares).  New Orleans also had a ton of hipsters. I have never been to Portland though.

 

Extremely yuppie, last time I was there was about 1 1/2 years ago though.  Not quite as visible a gay population as it used to be.  One thing that strikes me about Columbus btw is how it picks up on national trends faster than the rest of the state - the restaurants off high street wouldn't be out of place in a hip Chicago neighborhood, and Columbus even was the first city in Ohio to get things like Boba Tea and a barcade.

 

I have not been to Cbus in a while. I could probably say the same thing about the "hip" places in Cleveland being similar to those in Chicago. At least the good restaurants in Cleveland would also be praised in Chicago. There is nowhere in Cleveland I would really call a yuppie neighborhood, but it does have some hipsters for sure.

Northside is far and away Cincinnati's most eclectic neighborhood.  There are colonies of punks, skinheads, bmx bikers, indie rockers, hippies, and everything in between there.  But there are not many if any yupsters there, and virtually zero eclecticism in OTR now.  It's basically people with professional jobs who alternately dress like professionals while socializing or like they go to music festivals and periodically ride a bicycle.  Northside is still very cheap but Camp Washington and Brighton are even cheaper, and so there are some artists and musicians living in those areas.  You can rent a whole 3-bedroom house in Camp Washington for around $600/mo.     

 

What's amazing is that Corryville has been completely denuded of interesting people (it was "Northside" in the 80s and 90s) and is about as lifeless as a fully occupied city neighborhood next to a university can get.  I don't detect any hipster inroads in Mt. Auburn or Walnut Hills. 

 

 

I don't detect any hipster inroads in Mt. Auburn or Walnut Hills.

 

Is it anything like this?