Some days I wish I were Jewish.

Ironically Jewish? (feeble attempt to get back on topic)

Some days I wish I were Jewish.

I loved the Top Gear assessment of an 80s Camaro... "Less power than Belgium." 

 

My friend once had a KITT style T/A and decided to show us how fast it went.  He hit a bump, causing a hubcap to pop off and roll alongside the car.  That hubcap beat him to the end of the block.

Those 305s were pretty sad; I think the '82s made 165 horsepower. But by '87 you could get the 350 with 230hp.

My current 4-popper has 160 hp.  Yeah, you kinda needed a 350/351 back in those days. 

Car talk is so-unhipster: and un-urban. Hey wait, what's that behind your car? Isn't that a fixie? And what's this? Do I spy several alleycat spoke cards?

Detroit bands still get to sing about cars:

 

 

>I loved the Top Gear assessment of an 80s Camaro... "Less power than Belgium." 

 

My dad worked on the Camaro assembly line.  He did the adhesive for the rear window with a caulk gun, then the next guy put the window in. 

He might have did it on mine if he worked there in MArch of '87. Dunno how many shifts they ran, but mine was definitely done in Norwood rather than California. The Norwood cars are the good ones; the ones made in California have water-based paint that peeled after a few years.

Car talk is so-unhipster: and un-urban. Hey wait, what's that behind your car? Isn't that a fixie? And what's this? Do I spy several alleycat spoke cards?

 

Pshhht... Why wouldn't anyone want to switch gears and coast? Does it make you a badass when going up a steep hill? What is with this fixie phenomenon with hipsters?

Yeah I know: it's literally too much work to be a hipster. There are some hills in these parts and even switching gears doesn't make them fun to climb, never mind not being able to. And coasting downhill is just too fun. Wearing skinny jeans to avoid rolling up your right pant leg, on the other hand, actually makes sense. Fixies, not so much.

I won't even bike in my Levi 501 Original jeans because it's too uncomfortable for that kind of constant motion...they're too damn tight to be cycling in and they're not even "skinny" jeans.

>e might have did it on mine if he worked there in MArch of '87. Dunno how many shifts they ran, but mine was definitely done in Norwood rather than California. The Norwood cars are the good ones; the ones made in California have water-based paint that peeled after a few years.

 

 

It was the Norwood plant in and around 1980.  I find it hard to believe the Norwood cars are the good ones, considering the horrible reputation of that plant. 

 

 

>it's too uncomfortable for that kind of constant motion

 

I don't understand why people who want everyone to know they ride bicycles when they're not on them don't accept the ripped up right pant leg as a signal to others -- an unending "jeep wave".  I mean, think about it -- you could take it a stop further into that dorky junior high "asshole" game where you get to punch someone who looks at the loop you make with your forefinger and thumb.  So if you catch someone looking down to see if your pant leg is ripped from bicycling you get to punch them. 

 

 

 

LOL! There you go.

>e might have did it on mine if he worked there in MArch of '87. Dunno how many shifts they ran, but mine was definitely done in Norwood rather than California. The Norwood cars are the good ones; the ones made in California have water-based paint that peeled after a few years.

 

 

It was the Norwood plant in and around 1980.  I find it hard to believe the Norwood cars are the good ones, considering the horrible reputation of that plant. 

 

 

>it's too uncomfortable for that kind of constant motion

 

I don't understand why people who want everyone to know they ride bicycles when they're not on them don't accept the ripped up right pant leg as a signal to others -- an unending "jeep wave".  I mean, think about it -- you could take it a stop further into that dorky junior high "asshole" game where you get to punch someone who looks at the loop you make with your forefinger and thumb.  So if you catch someone looking down to see if your pant leg is ripped from bicycling you get to punch them. 

 

 

 

 

The paint thing is pretty much the only difference. But a car with no paint is way more likely to wind up in a junkyard since that kind of damage is so expensive to repair if a shop handles the job.

 

I just put a Velcro strap around my ankle to keep my jeans from getting torn on sprockets.

^ So would it be ironic enough if a hipster drove a beat 5.0 (with cheese-grater tail light covers)? Or an IROC-Z? I think it would be...

 

I can't help but think of Waynes World with Wayne and Garth in that Pacer.

 

That car, at that moment was so uncool it was cool.

Speaking of skinny jeans, I couldn't resist some earthy light brown Comune skinny jeans that were on sale. I think they purported to be slim, but they're definitely skinny. In Columbus the dispatch did a write up on the Independents' Day festival, which just so happens to attract a decent amount of hipsters, thanks in part I'm sure to CCAD (for non-Columbusites that's the expensive private art school just a few blocks down the street).

this seems pertinent

 

http://www.tnr.com/print/article/politics/magazine/108186/generation-whine

Something I find amusing about hipsters in the Columbus area is the double standard re substance abuse.  I stopped drinking 15 years ago, and replaced that addiction by being the Diet Pepsi equivalent of a chain smoker.  I was at a party last year where I received a lot of unsolicited information, advice, and commentary about the evils of Nutra-Sweet and all the other ingredients in Diet Pepsi.  Might have taken it seriously, except that the people giving the advice were all smoking and were drinking Pabst Blue Ribbon by the quart.

So am I the only one thinking there was some hipster out there, somewhere, who ironically voted for Romney?

Jesus. Someone would have to wallow in their own irony so much to vote in an election ironically and derive pleasure from it that I think I would suggest they seek mental help.

 

Not saying that it hasn't happened.

Well, I couldn't really see Hipsters moving away from this area (Old North/University District, etc). I mean, you have Handy Bikes/Once Ridden Bikes, independent restaurants, an indie Drug Store, Hardware Store, Record Store, Dirty Dungarees...the list goes on. It's too well established to be a Hipster's paradise I think. I see it more as a paradise for anyone who appreciates originality though, personally. I don't see the "Hipsters" around here moving out any time soon, even if "Bros" infultrate the area more.

 

I bet that abandoned 7-11 that looks all '70s and that one bar where they had to cover up half of the name on the sign (also '70s looking) makes hipsters feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Ironically, of course.

So am I the only one thinking there was some hipster out there, somewhere, who ironically voted for Romney?

 

I know tons of hipsters who voted for Romney! They were protecting the trust fund!

 

In Ohio? Yeah, that would be kind of interesting...

 

Going along with the economic stratification of post-2000 hipsters, it's likely the Romney hipsters are living in choice neighborhoods of New York, San Francisco, and Chicago. There are a lot of hipsters who are liberal in social interaction only. They like the drugs and sex, but they'll protect their money before anything else. When it comes to hipsters who don't have plans to retire by 30, I can't imagine why they'd vote for Romney. He looks like the angry stepfather who will grab their cigarettes and stomp them on the ground. He'll also never give them a job due to their tattoos and piercings.

http://hipsteripsum.me/?paras=4&type=hipster-centric

 

Ipsums are programs used by graphic designers to generate non-sensical text to fill sample layouts. This one has a hipster vocab. 

 

Also checkout the 50 Shades generator

 

http://www.fiftyshadesgenerator.com/

C-Dawg will really love this one!

 

Hipsters on food stamps

 

They're young, they're broke, and they pay for organic salmon with government subsidies. Got a problem with that?

By Jennifer Bleyer

 

http://www.salon.com/2010/03/16/hipsters_food_stamps_pinched/

^No doubt that is happening, and it is frustrating for any Rust Belter who has worked their ass off at dead-end jobs. But in these dead-end jobs, you're usually over the threshold for foods stamps and have to eat unhealthy food to survive. All the while, we have some lazy hipsters getting $200 a month in subsidized food they don't deserve. Food stamps should be for people who need them, not hipsters. That article is disgusting.

 

People from good backgrounds will never understand what it's like to come from a bad background. I think hipsters overwhelmingly come from good backgrounds. The blue collar rage against hipsters is the strongest.

^I don't think it's possible to buy things at Kohl's that aren't on sale... I would be shocked if there was anything in that store that wasn't "marked down".

I was told the other day I am quasi-hipster because my glasses are a little thicker than wire rims, I wear modern fit dress pants and shirts, like to wear sweaters with collared shirts and ties, wear jackets/coats from The Gap, own a fedora, drink craft beer, like the city, have a beard, try different foods, think smoking a pipe would be awesome, and don't mind vinyl records.

 

I found this to be absurd as I've never drank PBR, have no tattoos/piercings, work an entry-level government job, and have never bought an article of clothing to wear seriously from a thrift store in my entire life. Heck, most of my wardrobe consists of stuff I bought on sale at Kohl's.

 

You were fine until you got to the fedora part.  Unfortunately, that’s a fatal flaw and makes you automatically qualify.

 

Also, the tightness of the modern fit pants is another issue.  If they are a slim cut, that’s fine, but “skinny” and beyond is another fatal flaw.

 

Back when I was in high school in the 80's I wanted to bring back the fedora, but didn't have self assuredness to pull it off. Now they're in fashion, but I don't want to be associated with the people that wear them.

 

Maybe when I'm an old man

 

I also smoked a pipe in college. Was I a hipster before hipsters existed?

think smoking a pipe would be awesome

 

come out of the closet hipster

^AJ you are a trendsetter. And you know it. Pleated khakis will be HUGE again in 8 years...

 

JOHIO, I think you a quasi-hipster...On the venn diagram of the population you are in the space shared by the hipster circle and the general population circle.

 

 

 

 

Gap and Kohl's clothing is really screwing up Johio's hipster cred, though. Those stores are in malls.

Gap and Kohl's clothing is really screwing up Johio's hipster cred, though. Those stores are in malls.

 

Gap and Kohl's are ironic, enhancing Johio's hipster cred.

 

 

 

 

^AJ you are a trendsetter. And you know it. Pleated khakis will be HUGE again in 8 years...

 

 

Shlubby is the new black, baby!

Can we just acknowledge that hipsterism is dead? The Gap and Kohl's probably do have a sh!t ton of "hipster" clothes available, which is a definitive sign of the movement's death. It's been absorbed and reappropriated by the mainstream.

 

No countercultural movement can be legitimate so many years after its beginning. Imagine someone trying to be "grunge" in 2005. There's your hipster in 2012. Just doesn't work.

 

Somewhere, there are cool kids living out whatever the new thing is now. They're just so cool they haven't been tagged with a label yet.

But the stuff was purchased from a really obscure dead mall that you probably haven't heard of.

^^ those are the kids wearing Jams!

 

And they say "Not!" a lot.

^I think we just described Anthrax.

 

Retro late '80s thrash metalhead is actually an officially recognized form of hipster that I've seen on hipster identification charts. Don't get too crazy with your Skeletonwitch shirts, flip caps and giant Reebok high tops, people. And no blasting Heathen out of a Chevette.

Can we just acknowledge that hipsterism is dead? The Gap and Kohl's probably do have a sh!t ton of "hipster" clothes available, which is a definitive sign of the movement's death. It's been absorbed and reappropriated by the mainstream.

 

No countercultural movement can be legitimate so many years after its beginning. Imagine someone trying to be "grunge" in 2005. There's your hipster in 2012. Just doesn't work.

 

Somewhere, there are cool kids living out whatever the new thing is now. They're just so cool they haven't been tagged with a label yet.

 

So you're saying we've moved into a post-ironic hipster culture?

>your Skeletonwitch shirts

 

I went to Skeletonwitch's FIRST show ever, it was at The Union in Athens.  Saw them about 5 times their first year, back when they had Jimimi Shastina on bass.  They were hilarious, their singer was making fun of thrash metal between songs and everybody was cracking up because everyone knew Chase or Chance or whatever his name was and he was some mild mannered dude who suddenly took the stage howling "DIE-DIE-DIE-DIE-DIE-DIE!!!!".  Then by 2005 everybody started taking them seriously, when they released Beneath The Permafrost, or whatever that record was.  I remember this dude coming up to me at one of their shows telling me to "hey man this band is going to be international!".

 

I'm in this video:

 

While I probably shouldn't be defending Gap or Kohl's, I don't think they ever jumped on the hipster bandwagon (other than narrowing cuts and cheaping out on material, but that's something different). Gap has been pretty generic for decades. It's not attention-grabbing clothing. It's similar to Levi's, just general San Francisco style. Hipster clothing is different.

 

...but it's not really about clothing. Being a hipster is about attitude and actions. Someone who dresses like a hipster isn't a hipster unless they live the lifestyle and have an unfriendly, snarky, judgmental attitude. To quote a college professor in San Francisco, "you've got all these hipster douchebags these days who don't want to work and think they're better than everyone else. They have no grit." A hipster is a douchebag on the opposite spectrum from the traditional fraternity/sorority douchebags.

I partied with them one night when they were on tour with Toxic Holocaust and Municipal Waste in 2008. Their roadie/merch guy Cliff lived in Cincinnati at the time so they stayed at his house. I was friends with him and another guy who lived there who opened the show as local support. There's a picture out there of us, them and Joel from Toxic Holocaust chugging liquor in Cliff's kitchen.

Can we just acknowledge that hipsterism is dead? The Gap and Kohl's probably do have a sh!t ton of "hipster" clothes available, which is a definitive sign of the movement's death. It's been absorbed and reappropriated by the mainstream.

 

No countercultural movement can be legitimate so many years after its beginning. Imagine someone trying to be "grunge" in 2005. There's your hipster in 2012. Just doesn't work.

 

Somewhere, there are cool kids living out whatever the new thing is now. They're just so cool they haven't been tagged with a label yet.

 

Hipsterism is mainstream in coastal cities. It was never counterculture except in flyover burgs. It just took elements from previous countercultures and ruined them.

Boat shoes are back. Why not Jams? I am officially old when I remember a trend the first time. Ray Bans knock offs and Sperry boat shoes? I had both in 1985(?) when I was 8.

 

Personally I am trying to bring back Bass shors Dirty Bucs with the suede tops and crepe soles. No socks. I have a vintage pair from the 90s that I never wore that I found at my parents. My wife hates them of course.

 

Edit: sorry I missed a whole page before typing this.

So am I the only one thinking there was some hipster out there, somewhere, who ironically voted for Romney?

 

I know tons of hipsters who voted for Romney! They were protecting the trust fund!

 

In Ohio? Yeah, that would be kind of interesting...

 

Going along with the economic stratification of post-2000 hipsters, it's likely the Romney hipsters are living in choice neighborhoods of New York, San Francisco, and Chicago. There are a lot of hipsters who are liberal in social interaction only. They like the drugs and sex, but they'll protect their money before anything else. When it comes to hipsters who don't have plans to retire by 30, I can't imagine why they'd vote for Romney. He looks like the angry stepfather who will grab their cigarettes and stomp them on the ground. He'll also never give them a job due to their tattoos and piercings.

 

I know I'm going to hate myself for asking but (Rose), here goes!  So that I can better understand you're answer,  where do you get this information?  Hipsters live in choice neighborhoods?  What is your definition of a choice neighborhood?  retire before 30??  Hell, before you can retire you need to have a job!

Choice to them I guess. Hipster neighborhoods aren't for everyone as MTS is pointing out.

 

think smoking a pipe would be awesome

 

come out of the closet hipster

 

Since I don't smoke I'm not worried about this one. Actually, probably the only reason I like pipes is because its what my grandfather smoked and I liked the smell of it.

 

You're hipster, bro.  Y U Mad?

So that I can better understand you're answer,  where do you get this information?  Hipsters live in choice neighborhoods?  What is your definition of a choice neighborhood?  retire before 30??  Hell, before you can retire you need to have a job!

 

Mission District, which has become one of the most expensive/competitive places for housing in the United States. You don't need a job if you have a trust fund and a good portfolio manager. :wink: I didn't think the retired under 30 crowd existed, but lord it does!

 

I doubt most Midwestern hipsters live in choice neighborhoods (outside Chicago's Wicker Park), at least not in big numbers. Though does OTR have a good number of hipsters? That's a choice neighborhood by Ohio standards. Cincinnati is the next Oakland.