Posted January 28, 200619 yr I just found a link to a site for Ohio's railroad stations. It includes both current and historic photos, and information on stations that no longer exist
January 28, 200619 yr A very good site. It is amazing how many of Ohio's old train stations still exist and have been either preserved or restored by their local communities. Sadly, some big ones have been lost.... Dayton, Columbus Union Station. Here's a few choice photos... 1. New York Central Depot at Belfontaine 2.Hocking Valley RR at Canal Winchester 3. Toledo & Ohio Central RR at Pickerington 4. Dresden 5. Madiera, Ohio 6. Trinway, Ohio 7.Wellston 9. Delaware
January 28, 200619 yr A well done site. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 28, 200619 yr hadn't realized the Geauga Lake station had been razed. Last I saw there was a enormous hole in the roof so there was probably no hope for it. Aurora's is on the National Register of Historic places, would have been nice if we could have saved the other as well.
January 28, 200619 yr I used to live about a mile from the Geauga Lake station, and rode my bicycle or walked there quite often. I even scoured the grounds with a metal detector I got for Christmas in 1979, but all I came up with was a rusted old lock. My family moved out to that area a little more than a year after the commuter train stopped running in January 1977, and some parents of friends of mine used to take the train to work every morning from the Geauga Lake station. One of my friends even rode the commuter train with his family downtown for a fun trip. I guess I'd heard the station was to be demolished, or was going to be, I can't remember which. But I'm sorry to hear it's gone. There were various plans over the years to reuse it. Even my mother mused about opening a dollhouse/hobby store in there, but it was probably just a side-comment sort of thing. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 28, 200619 yr Here's a site to access photos of the old Columbus Union Station. It was demolished in 1976. http://home.columbus.rr.com/unionstation/
January 29, 200619 yr Cincinnati's station is very impressive and its architectural style is striking. It's one of the last great union stations to be built in the U.S. <:type:>If you look at Cleveland Terminal Tower's original design and the supporting infrastructure that went along with it, it overshadows everything in the Midwest except for Chicago and New York. In terms of earth moved, excavation for the track alignments was the biggest such project in the Western Hemisphere except for possibly the Panama Canal. To support the tower and terminal above the unstable river-delta soil, concrete caissons up to ten feet in diameter were sunk to bedrock. I'm pulling the numbers from memory now, but I think there were some two hundred caissons going about 200 feet deep. The track platforms were forty feet below street level, and there were multiple levels to the station to provide passenger services and all the support functions. The cost of the structure, not including track work, was $88 million in 1928 dollars. Much of the original passenger terminal structure was removed to build the central atrium of Tower City. The original concourse bore some resemblance to the old Union Station concourse in Chicago, and in fact both facilities were designed by Graham Anderson Probst & White, successor firm to D.H. Burnham & Co. </ :type:>
January 29, 200619 yr Wonderful collection, KJP. I've seen some construction photos, but nothing as extensive as that.
January 29, 200619 yr And here's a little history of the terminal from the Cincinnati History Museum. Union Terminal Facts and Figures Work on Union Terminal started August 1929 and was completed on March 31, 1933. Union Terminal cost $41 million, including the purchase of the ground and the readjustment of railroad facilities. The Union Terminal complex, including the rail yards and supporting structures, takes up an area of 287 acres with 94 miles of track. The Union Terminal complex originally was composed of 22 distinct buildings whose construction required 224,534 cubic yards of concrete, 100,500 square yards of paving, 8,250,000 bricks, and 45,421 net tons of steel. The Cincinnati Union Terminal Company, the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad, and the City of Cincinnati built the Western Hills Viaduct, which spans the rail yards, for a cost of $3.5 million. The viaduct is 3,500 feet long of which 2,800 feet is double-deck construction. The Rotunda's interior dome spans 180 feet, with a height of 106 feet. The station was designed to accommodate 17,000 passengers and 216 trains a day. Passenger train service left Union Terminal on October 28, 1972 and resumed on July 29, 1991 when Amtrak began operating at Union Terminal.
January 30, 200619 yr Urban renewal of the 1920's usually resulted in something BIGGER than what was there before, and often had a rail component. Urban renewal of the 1940's and 1950's usually resulted in something with similar or even less density, usually with lots of space for automobiles. For another perspective, read "The Railroad and the City" by Carl Condit. He describes at length the railroad situation in Cincinnati prior to the construction of Cincinnati Union Terminal. There were 7 railroad stations. He argues that the 7 stations were easier to use than the Cincinnati Union Terminal that replaced them.
January 30, 200619 yr This one was part of the Burnham plan, wasn't it? I think I remember reading that the Van Sweringens were instrumental in scuttling that idea, and did a lot of political maneuvering to get their terminal built on their chosen site. I'll have to look that up again. The Nickel Plate Story by John Rehor has a lot of history on Terminal Tower and Cleveland's early railroad scene. Here's the old B&O station. It lost its mansard roof and clock tower (center of opposite side of building) in a fire long ago.
January 31, 200619 yr Problem was, they demolished the train shed prior to the 1920s. You can see in the first picture I posted of it that the trainshed is gone. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 31, 200619 yr sure it was no gare de lyon, but its easy to picture it as something like that if it were still around today. too bad. That is nice. I remember the trainshed in Munich, too, as being very open and inviting. The old trainsheds on the American railroads in the steam era were often anything but airy, though. I remember detraining at Dearborn Station in Chicago with my dad when I was about six years old. I think there were skylights, but they may have been sooted over, or possibly painted for blackout purposes during WWII. The only daylight that penetrated the inner recesses came through the smoke slots, and the air inside was sulfurous with coal smoke and in winter, clammy and humid from steam from locomotives and the heating systems for the cars. Not that it was all bad; I still feel a thrill when I smell the mixture of coal smoke and steam and hot cylinder oil. Top it off with the smell of brakes from a long train decelerating and stopping at the platform and ... :-)
January 31, 200619 yr Problem was, they demolished the train shed prior to the 1920s. You can see in the first picture I posted of it that the trainshed is gone. oh i know, they're all gone. i just always liked that photo and im just sayin that was the big one and imo was a keeper. its possible it could have been left alone or kept in use somehow and been clevos gare de lyon. alas it was not to be.
January 31, 200619 yr One interesting bit of trivia that's been missed here is that Daniel Burnham... who designed Columbus Union Station and the designed-but-not-build Cleveland Lakefront Station.... was also the chief designer of Grand Central Station in New York City. We never saw his vision for Cleveland built. All we have left of Columbus Union Station is an arch that now stands in the Arena District. But at least we still have Grand Central. BTW: A&E (Discovery Channel) has recently been running a two-hour long documentary on the building, decline and preservation of Grand Central. It is very well done and I encourage ytou to check your TV listings for the show.
January 31, 200619 yr One interesting bit of trivia that's been missed here is that Daniel Burnham... who designed Columbus Union Station and the designed-but-not-build Cleveland Lakefront Station.... was also the chief designer of Grand Central Station in New York City. We never saw his vision for Cleveland built. All we have left of Columbus Union Station is an arch that now stands in the Arena District. But at least we still have Grand Central. BTW: A&E (Discovery Channel) has recently been running a two-hour long documentary on the building, decline and preservation of Grand Central. It is very well done and I encourage ytou to check your TV listings for the show. Burnham initiated the designs for Union Station in Chicago, too, but died before the project was far along. It was completed by successor firm Graham Anderson Probst & White. I'm thinking they also created Cleveland's Union Terminal.
January 31, 200619 yr Canton Penn Station Demolished in the mid 70's for a small one story modernist box building even though local & state officials had already filled preliminary paperwork to have it listed on the National Register of Historic Places & had begged Amtrak to restore the existing building instead. That alienated the remaining people in the area still willing to ride trains at the time and killed passenger train service in Canton and all the other cities on their line. Canton B&O Station This station was located on the south end of downtown and is long gone. [glow=blue,2,300]BONUS[/glow] Trolley car torched during an electric railway strike in Alliance.
January 31, 200619 yr Cantonese, The Broadway and Capitol Limiteds weren't rerouted out of Canton (and the other cities on the former PRR main via Crestline, Lima or Fort Wayne) because of a station issue in one city in the 1970s. In 1989, Conrail wanted to downgrade its Fort Wayne Line by deactivating the lineside signaling system, and turn it into a 49-mph, Form-D radio-dispatched route. That meant Amtrak could no longer operate at competitive speeds on the Fort Wayne Line. Amtrak held its trackage rights agreement over Conrail, which specificied certain operating conditions had to be maintained. Conrail countered they would pay Amtrak's capital costs to reroute their trains over other routes across across northern Ohio and Indiana. In November 1990, the Capitol Limited was rerouted over Conrail through Cleveland and Toledo and the Broadway Limited over CSX via Youngstown, Akron and Fostoria. That's what ended service to Canton. I'm not sure about the other part, however. I don't think Amtrak ever owned the former PRR station. I suspect that was owned either by Conrail or Penn Central's real estate division, which continues to this day, even after Conrail absorbed P-C's railroad operations in 1976. I suspect Conrail (or P-C) likely demolished the PRR station because it became a financially liability. Conrail had a nasty reputation of demolishing beloved stations when people weren't looking. I recall the story of how the Aurora, Ohio station almost got razed. The city had a pending application to buy it so it could renovate it, but Conrail wanted it demolished. A Conrail bulldozer showed up in the middle of the night, but a neighbor heard it being unloaded. That neighbor knew the mayor, called him and told him what was happening. The mayor rushed over with the police and ordered the bulldozer operator to shut it down. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 31, 200619 yr "City officals tries to prevail upon AMTRAK to restore the old station which was considered an historic landmark. But AMTRAK, hard-pressed financially, decided that such a restoration would be to expensive. The State of Ohio had started the process of having the old station placed on the National Register of Historic Buildings so it could not be destoryed, but before this was approve, AMTRAK purchased the depot and razed it in October, 1976. In June, 1978 AMTRAK opened a new $250,000 station on the same site providing around-the-clock ticket service, rest rooms, a snack area and a lighted parking lot." -From the History of Stark County, printed 1979. I'd also like to point out that simply puting the building on the National Register wouldn't have single-handedly saved the building (although it certainly would've helped.) Because the Courtland Hotel in Canton was put on the National Register in 1988 and was demolished only a few years later in 1992.
January 31, 200619 yr I've been pleasantly surprised that Fort Wayne's PRR station survived the Conrail demolition crews. After Amtrak left in 1990, the benches were removed, an antiques dealer stole the platform lights, and the building was boarded up. Even though there was talk about adaptive reuse, it stood vacant and vandalized for several years. The also-unused adjacent Railway Express building burned in a suspicious fire that I always thought was set or hired by the railroad to reduce demolition costs, and I fully expected the station to meet the same fate. Fortunately, an architectural firm finally bought it and did a beautiful renovation. It now houses their offices, and the main concourse is available for special events and parties. I took Amtrak to Canton around 1979. As I recall, they had a tunnel and stairway between the station and platform. I thought that was rather unusual for such a small station.
January 31, 200619 yr The old trainsheds on the American railroads in the steam era were often anything but airy, though. I remember detraining at Dearborn Station in Chicago with my dad when I was about six years old. I think there were skylights, but they may have been sooted over, or possibly painted for blackout purposes during WWII. The only daylight that penetrated the inner recesses came through the smoke slots, and the air inside was sulfurous with coal smoke and in winter, clammy and humid from steam from locomotives and the heating systems for the cars. Not that it was all bad; I still feel a thrill when I smell the mixture of coal smoke and steam and hot cylinder oil. Top it off with the smell of brakes from a long train decelerating and stopping at the platform and ... rob i have no doubt it got quite disgusting in there. but so was grand central and when they cleaned it up....wow talk about wonderful surprises! ps-- here's a neat site about whats left of the old penn station: http://www.forgotten-ny.com/STREET%20SCENES/Penn%20Station/penn.html This Penn Station eagle has found its way to the courtyard of a building on 3rd Avenue near St. Marks Place.
January 31, 200619 yr Cantonese, thanks for the information. I wasn't aware Amtrak bought the old station shortly before its demolition. That's a shame Amtrak couldn't wait (or put up a temporary shelter) for a little while to see what the city could do to upgrade the station. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 31, 200619 yr Back to Ohio stations. here's how things look at trackside at Toledo Union Station. Of what used to be over ten tracks, only one is in daily use (Track 3#) by Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited and Capitol Limited. Though things look kind of forlorn, the good news is there is clearly capacity available to accomdate trains from the Ohio Hub and Midwest Regional Rail systems, once they are underway. (Photo source: noozer)
January 31, 200619 yr It's surprising the unused platforms, canopies and concourse weren't ripped out. Toledo could still be a pretty classy station if it were fixed up. About 1980 I rode Amtrak from Detroit to Toledo, departing from the old Michigan Central Station in Detroit when it was still intact and the passenger concourse was still open. Upon detraining at Toledo I was pleasantly taken aback to discover an Amtrak station with a working escalator.
January 31, 200619 yr Actually, the Toledo-Lucas County Port Authority did a great job on restoring the Toledo terminal (you just can't see it from trackside. The reason the empty track space and passenger walkway remains is that the intent is to re-open it for future passenger service over and above what they have now (4 trains a day). Part of the overhead walkway has been restored, but the money ran out to do the rest. I think increases in passenger traffic will justify finishing the job. If you are ever in Toledo, stop by and take a look at the interior of this gem. It is art-deco at it's best. The building now houses the Toledo Metropolitan Council of Governments and is often used for public functions. The Amtrak station (also nicely fixed up) is downstairs.
November 16, 200618 yr Just a a few photos of some of the train stations that used to serve Ohio's big and small cities, but are no longer with us. In some cases, we've lost more than just a place to meet the train, but some very fine and unique architecture. The first two photos are of Columbus Union Station, just prior to its demolition in 1972. It was designed by the architect, Daniel Burnham, who also designed Grand Central Station in New York City and laid out much of the master plan for Cleveland. Following that are pictures of the former Pennsylvania RR depot in Dayton, the New York Central depot at Marysville and the PRR depot in downtown Springfield. Most of the others are marked as to their locations.
November 17, 200618 yr fantastic idea for a thread, even if a rather sad topic. request: could you go back and label city/neighborhood captions to the pics? i'm not sure where some of them were from. here's another one that would have been a keeper: The Nickel Plate Railroad Station on Broadway Ave., Cleveland, Ohio anyone have a pic of the big european style train station barn that was on the lakefront where the port authority is now?
November 17, 200618 yr How about some then-and-now views of a few the pictures shown above? All the "now" views (actually from the 1980s) are from yours truly. Alliance Ohio then (circa 1900): Alliance Ohio October 1982. The scene hasn't changed that much in 24 years though. The brick station was built by PRR in the 1950s on the site of the old depot: Ravenna's PRR station circa 1900 (shortly after PRR built a straighter routing in the 12 miles between Ravenna and Hudson - the old route was taken over by an electric interurban railway). The PRR is above and the B&O is below, but PRR connected here with it so its freight and passenger trains could go into Youngstown from Cleveland: About as close of a view to the above as I could quickly find. I took this in May 1986. The PRR tracks were taken over by Conrail. The B&O tracks below were taken over by CSX right about the time I took this shot looking west: Here's a view looking east, down from the Conrail (PRR) bridge to the B&O tracks below in October 1984. The old PRR mainline segment between Ravenna and Hudson is in the background -- the bridge still stood in 1984 but the tracks were gone. Also, both of the PRR's connecting tracks visible to the left of the train have since been removed, severing all direct rail access between Cleveland and Youngstown: Ravenna's PRR depot circa 1900: Ravenna's PRR depot in September 1986. Some girl named Bev obviously loved Bill 20 years ago. Too bad Conrail didn't love the depot. Less than two years later, Conrail demolished it. This easterly view is from the same angle as the one directly above, but with a zoom lens: I've got lots more pics, including dozens and dozens of images of historical Ohio railroad stations. It will take me a while to upload and post them all. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 17, 200618 yr here's another one that would have been a keeper: The Nickel Plate Railroad Station on Broadway Ave., Cleveland, Ohio Here's the same Nickel Plate RR station, seen in 1928 just before it was to be demolished. NKP trains were routed into Cleveland Union Terminal. Now that was progress IMHO anyone have a pic of the big european style train station barn that was on the lakefront where the port authority is now? But of course! I have some images of the depot from the 1800s, but here's a couple I could quickly find. It lost its trainshed in its later years as you will see (Pennsylvania RR continued to serve it into the early 1960s -- a 100-year service life!)... Looking west from West 3rd in 1910: Same general view, different year -- 1930: "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 17, 200618 yr Ravenna's PRR depot in September 1986, less than two years before Conrail demolished it. This view is from the same angle as the one directly above, but with a zoom lens. Wow. Very sad, what beauty through the grit. I was just out of high school and off to college (give or take a year) about the time of demolition. As for the City of Cleveland and mass transit, I think Clevelanders are just beginning to appreciate the value of what the Van Sweringen brothers envisioned and created. I visited their estate in the late 1980's in Hunting Valley. For the most part, I vaguely remember the sprawling mansion (any pics?).
November 23, 200618 yr what proud structures - I love this thread noozer, thanks. so happy that Cincy reclaimed their Union Terminal for museum space (plus the Amtrak stops there - for what it's worth) (KJP - you must have some filing system there! - wow)
November 23, 200618 yr ... The PRR version didn't stop in larger cities like Canton or Ft. Wayne either ... KJP, are you sure about Fort Wayne? I had a long-time impression that all PRR trains through Fort Wayne stopped here; it was a division point (first one west of Chicago) where crews changed, and in the steam era, locomotives were serviced/swapped here. Crew changes took place right through the Amtrak era until the end of service in 1990. My aunt said she took the Broadway between Fort Wayne and Chicago weekly in the fifties, and that the running time was around 2:15 from Fort Wayne's Baker Street to Union Station with one intermediate stop (Englewood, I think).
November 25, 200618 yr You are correct. I checked PRR timetables going back to the 1920s, and in all cases, the Broadway stopped in Ft. Wayne. It was the only station stop it made between Englewood and Pittsburgh, though it probably made crew changes at Crestline and Canton. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 1, 200618 yr This one wasn't lost to progress, but maybe to lack thereof. In 1977 on a bike ride without a camera, I spotted a nice old depot in Hicksville, Ohio. The next weekend I drove over with my camera to find this: The photo was late in the day, so the light is pretty hard.
December 1, 200618 yr Best time of day to shoot, because the colors are way more rich and the shadows come into play. Good photo of a station on it's last legs. What's it like today?
December 1, 200618 yr That photo is quite a commentary on the state of passenger rail in Ohio (and many other states). "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 1, 200618 yr Here is Hamilton's PRR station at Seventh Street. It was demolished without a permit in 1990 and was on the National Register. Hamilton had plans for a "Union Station" in 1920, including a site, but they never materialized.
December 1, 200618 yr Conrail demolished it. They did other station demolitions by moonlight to prevent communities from trying to save them. That almost worked in Aurora in the 1980s, where wrecking crews showed up one night to raze the Erie Depot, despite that the city was trying to buy it. A man living near the depot looked outside when he heard a front-end loader and saw what was happening. He knew the mayor and called him up. The mayor came with the police to depot in time to physically block the demolition crews. The depot still stands today. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 1, 200618 yr This thread made me think about a couple of the books by Arcadia Publishing that I have seen. There is a Railroad Depots of Northwest Ohio and a Railroad Depots of West Central Ohio. Just thought it might be appropriate to mention it here.
December 3, 200618 yr Here's a few more from my collection.... OK, not a train station, but I couldn't resist this Market Street scene in Akron circa 1915 Akron's Union Station, circa 1908 (that's what the postage stamp cancellation was dated on the reverse side of this). This station was demolished for the boxy 1950s-style station that still stands today, but hasn't been used as a train station since 1971. The lesser of Canton's two stations, at least in terms of traffic volume, was the B&O depot west of downtown, shown here about 1920. It served the line to Cleveland via Akron. This was Canton's more substantial station, the PRR station, located just south of downtown on Market Street. It was demolished in the 1970s for the Amtrak standardized station which replaced it. Now, that too is part of history. A street scene of Canton's Public Square in 1911, where the Cleveland - Akron - Canton - New Philadelphia electric interurban stopped to pick up passengers. See, it's a station! On to Cincinnati (You can see I'm doing these alphabetically!)... This was Cincinnati's Grand Central Station, proving that New York City and Chicago weren't the only cities having Grand Centrals. This beauty was demolished after Cincinnati Union Terminal was built in the early 1930s. Speaking of Cincinnati Union Terminal, here's a nice interior view. The station still stands (most of it anyway), but the passenger trains are gone (most of them anyway). Fostoria's B&O station in 1915, on B&O's Chicago - Akron - Youngstown Pittsburgh - Washington DC mainline (still a mainline but only the part east of Pittsburgh still has passenger trains on it). Galion's Erie Railroad station (not be confused with Galion's Big Four station, which stilll stands). This station was a little farther south, shown here about 1905. This station and its Chicago - Lima - Akron - Youngstown - Jamestown NY - Binghamton - New York City mainline was removed west of Akron. And, for all intents, is a streak of rust west of Hornell NY. One of my favorites postcards... Not only is the Garrettsville depot gone, but so is the railroad. This busy, double-tracked Cleveland - Pittsburgh mainline hosted Ohio's last commuter train, between Cleveland, Solon, Aurora, Warren and Youngstown, ending in 1977. This station was still served until that time and was demolished soon thereafter. The tracks east of Aurora were removed in 1982 after the steel industry collapsed in the Mahoning Valley. Loudonville's (east of Mansfield) depot in about 1908, on the mainline of the Pittsburgh, Ft. Wayne and Chicago, later absorbed by the Pennsylvania Railroad for its New York City - Chicago main. Speaking of Mansfield, this was its B&O station, on the line between Newark, Mt. Vernon, Willard and Sandusky. Much of this line has been removed. Most towns having multiple railroad lines also had as many stations. Not Marion. It had the fortune of all three of its railroad lines coming together at the same location, and thus allowed it to have a Union Station (something that few small towns could boast). Serving Marion Union Depot in 1912 were the Erie, Big Four, and C&O. Although this is the Cleveland and Pittsburgh railroad, it was on a branch southward along the Ohio River from the C&P's mainline via East Liverpool that linked its namesake cities. The C&P was absorbed into the Pennsylvania Railroad in the early 1900s. This rail line still exists, but the station does not. Note the two milk containers sitting on the platform, ready for shipment on the passenger train's baggage car. Toledo's forgotten station -- for the Ann Arbor Railroad, seen here in 1913. Instead, when many people think of Toledo's old station, they think of this one, below. This beauty fell into disrepair, and was a style not appreciated as America became preoccupied with all things modern. It was demolished as a "community embarrassment" in the 1940s..... ...For the current station, shown here when it was still new in the 1950s. And I figured some of you Toledoans would enjoy this postcard view of Toledo from the since-removed Pennsylvania RR tracks across the river. One of my favorites postcards is this one of Wooster's Pennsylvania RR depot and park in 1911, on the New York City - Chicago mainline. Shows that stations weren't just buildings, but important places in each town where people went to take a breather and watch the nation's commerce roar through town. Again in Wooster, this time in 1913. This station is different from the one above. So I assume it replaced the other depot. Until the next time, when I get some time to resize more scanned postcards and post them to a hosting service.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 3, 200618 yr wow nice job kjp. many of those resemble the east coast commuter stations in use today (ie., mansfield, garretsville, wooster). if you have a chance could you dig up the older 1800's port authority station shots you mentioned above? are there any interior shots of that massive building? also, some pre-tower city mall terminal tower station shots would be fun for people to see if you have them, you know what i mean, shabby, gloomy, etc., hehe! i wonder if there are any pre-renovation union station pics for cinci too? or for that matter interiors of the former cols union station? anyone?
December 3, 200618 yr That sounds like a whole separate string! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 11, 200718 yr Great find, Ink. Sad to see the neglect, but not surprising to see it. We're still living with the policies from 50 years ago that fostered such neglect of our walkable cities and the transportation systems that let them grow bigger. So here's a scene of the same place in a happier time.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 11, 200718 yr This is a shot of the Wright brothers coming home to Dayton at its train station, 1909.
January 12, 200718 yr Um, that's nothing short of an awesome setting and scene. On the other hand, the accomplishment they were returning from would eventually become a factor in this building's demise. Ain't life ironic? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 12, 200718 yr i poked around and found a few: adams mills more adams mills lancaster smithville train at smithville 1939 delphos carlisle 1903 huckleberry station -- later lockwood -- then the village was no more after 1967 (near ashtabula) deshler -- 2002 derailment crashed into the old station! hudson -- taken in 1969 painesville -- 1959 kent -- in april 2006 unknown station in ohio -- from ohio historical society -- immigrants 1910
January 12, 200718 yr That last picture looks like something out of Germany, circa 1944. :-( "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
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