not sure if these three are still around or not, seems doubtful:

 

mineral -- after being rmoved from the tracks in 1974

 

 

haydenville 1975

 

 

gallipolis 1989

 

 

zaleski, west of athens -- not a station but the lost moonville tunnel

 

 

 

Legend has it that the Moonville Tunnel is a haunted site.

 

Thanks for adding the pix.  Nice stuff!

Legend has it that the Moonville Tunnel is a haunted site.

 

Thanks for adding the pix.  Nice stuff!

 

yeah, it made an appearance in the "weird ohio" book

Moonville was still an Amtrak route up until the end of 1981. It was the route of the overnight (what else in Ohio?) Shenandoah between Cincinnati and Washington DC.

 

The Haydenville shot looks like an ad for "How Highways Won Over America, and How America Lost."

Does anyone know if there ever was (or still is) a train station in Warren or Niles, Ohio?

Absolutely! Any towns as large as Warren and Niles had train stations -- especially with the number of once-busy railroad lines through those cities. And the Erie RR line was the busiest, offering 20 passenger trains a day as recently as 1950). Fourteen of those were between Cleveland, Youngstown and Pittsburgh. Six were between Chicago and New York City (Hoboken, NJ) via Akron, Youngstown, Jamestown NY, Binghamton.

 

Warren and Niles each had several train stations for each of its railroad lines owned by different companies. The Erie RR (later Erie-Lackawanna), Baltimore & Ohio RR and Pennsylvania RR all had separate stations in each town. For those routes that didn't lose all their passenger trains prior to Amtrak's creation in 1971, the railroad companies' buy-in to Amtrak allowed them to eliminate all remaining passenger trains that Amtrak and the USDOT chose not to take over.

 

A rare exception was the Youngstown - Cleveland commuter train run by Erie-Lackawanna. It kept operating until Jan. 14, 1977 (30 years already!). I've posted more pictures of stations along this route at:

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=11674.msg154561#new

 

 

Niles

 

Pennsylvania RR station was at east end of rail yard, off Water Street. Service ended in 1964 (had trains to Chicago, Cleveland, Akron, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, New York City and many other cities enroute). I cannot find a picture of this station.

 

Here's the Erie RR station (Mahoning Ave at Pratt St)(foundation is still visible) in the 1980s (service ended in 1977, with trains to Cleveland, Pittsburgh, New York City/Hoboken, Washington DC/via B&O and many other places enroute):

 

 

Warren

 

I cannot find a picture of the Erie RR station, but it was at Park Ave south of South St.)(no visible remnant of station and the tracks were removed in the 1980s)

 

Pennsylvania RR station, East Market St. at tracks, (replica of station):

 

 

I'll keep looking!

A survivor - barely. The Lake Shore & Michigan Southern depot (1887?) at Jefferson, Ohio was a derelict hulk, falling apart with all the windows gone when the local garden club rescued it and did a thorough, authentic restoration. It houses historical exhibits and sits along tracks now used by Ashtabula Carson & Jefferson Railroad, a common-carrier short line that also runs tourist trains.

 

 

 

When I visited in 2000, the tourist train was powered by ex-Erie RR Alco S-2 built in 1947. It was a bit wheezy, but still going strong.

 

 

Edit 02/21/2010: Fixed broken links

I've posted some picture of Cleveland Union Terminal at:

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=11674.msg154755#msg154755

 

That Jefferson depot is a beauty!

LS&MS/New York Central Depot in uptown Norwalk was demolished for a Tops Grocery Store.....which is set to become a Giant Eagle.  People were angry that this depot was demolished to make room for Norwalk's 6th grocery store.  Seriously, how many grocery stores does a town of 17,000 need?

 

 

The Depot:

http://www.railfan.net/railpix/railfan/ohio04-10-01/img_0383.jpg

http://www.railfan.net/railpix/railfan/ohio04-10-01/img_0384.jpg

http://www.railfan.net/railpix/railfan/ohio04-10-01/img_0385.jpg

This is a shot of the Wright brothers coming home to Dayton at its train station, 1909.

 

Wow!  It took six years to travel from the Outer Banks of North Carolina to Dayton.  I knew trains were slower back then, but sheesh!

This is a shot of the Wright brothers coming home to Dayton at its train station, 1909.

 

Wow!  It took six years to travel from the Outer Banks of North Carolina to Dayton.  I knew trains were slower back then, but sheesh!

 

Their flight was delayed, and they missed their connection. Their luggage never did show up. :-D

Yeah.... they held up by the TSA, who thought they were the Bosnian terrorists suspected of plotting against Archduke Ferdinand of Austria.

This is a shot of the Wright brothers coming home to Dayton at its train station, 1909.

 

Wow!  It took six years to travel from the Outer Banks of North Carolina to Dayton.  I knew trains were slower back then, but sheesh!

 

Their flight was delayed, and they missed their connection. Their luggage never did show up. :-D

 

That reminds me of something I heard awhile back. When Dayton was throwing a parade in their honor, the Wright brothers—probably feeling it was a waste of time—left and headed back to their workshop. Whether that's true or not, I don't know.

 

F*** this, Orville. Let's roll.

Found a few more old photos of Ohio stations that are gone or sitting idle....

I made a web exhibit of Oxford's Rail Depot for one of my classes in public history last semester. It was a history class and we learned Dreamweaver in a couple workshops to make our sites. Its up on the web for you to look (unfortunately through these terrible frames).

 

http://www.units.muohio.edu/mcguffeymuseum/

and then click on

"Learn More"

then click on

"Our Collection"

then click on

"Student Exhibits".

 

 

 

Dayton's First Railroad Station from the Lutzenberger Collection.

 

Note:This building was Dayton’s first Railroad Station. It was built on the northeast corner of Sixth and Jefferson Streets in 1851, when the Springfield Branch of the Miami River and Lake Erie Railroad was completed.

 

 

Another one from the Lutzenberger Collection:

 

Note: Train station at the southwest corner of Sixth and Main Streets. The corner building was the Railroad Station. All the buildings shown in this block to Ludlow Street were torn down in 1900, preparatory to the building of the new Union Railway Station and the change of tracks.

 

 

Very cool piece on the old Oxford depot. Well done!  If Oxford can become a regional Amtrak stop for the "Cardinal", I think it could really do well if Amtrak can be convinced to make it a daily train.

Does anyone know what street Dayton's Union Station was on?

... The reason the empty track space and passenger walkway remains is that the intent is to re-open it for future passenger service over and above what they have now (4 trains a day).  Part of the overhead walkway has been restored, but the money ran out to do the rest.  I think increases in passenger traffic will justify finishing the job ...

 

The overhead walkway restoration is now complete.

 

Toledo is fortunate in that its station was built off the main tracks, with diverging tracks serving the station. Some stations lost their overhead walkways because they spanned active main tracks and didn't provide sufficient clearance for high-cube cars and double-stack containers. I think Cincinnati's Union Terminal passenger concourse was torn down because of high-cube clearance requirements, possibly related to the expansion and modernization of Queensgate Yard in the seventies.

 

A few Toledo station photos from last March at the NARP meeting:

 

 

Amtrak waiting room in former baggage room on lower level:

 

Skybridge entrance to original passenger waiting room and ticket counters:

 

Original ticket counter:

 

Original passenger waiting room, finished with glass tiles:

 

Restored walkway over tracks, with stairs and ramps down to platform level:

 

Looking down on track/platform area from overhead walkway:

 

Stairway in foreground, ramp in background, peeling paint above:

Sad to think that all of these elements of pride for their respective city's have been neglected or out right demolished.  But, we'll see what the 3-C, Ohio Hub, etc have in store.

Ohio isn't the only state that lost some beautiful old train stations:

 

Demolished! 11 Beautiful Train Stations That Fell To The Wrecking Ball

 

http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/06/22/11-beautiful-train-stations-that-fell-to-the-wrecking-ball/

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090627/NEWS16/906270362

 

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Article published June 27, 2009

 

Toledoan tries to add sparkle to streets near train station

 

By JANET ROMAKER

BLADE STAFF WRITER

 

An Emerald isle sparkles with fresh paint, just-planted flowers, and neighborhood pride, thanks in large part to Larry Ocheske.

 

Weary of watching his neighborhood turn into a weed-infested dumping ground for broken beer bottles, fast-food wrappers, and left-over pothole filler, the 63-year-old Toledoan bought a new mower and went to work three weeks ago.

 

Today, people do double-takes as they walk or drive along streets near the Amtrak station in Toledo.

 

More at link above:

See, one man can make a difference! But "Old Amtrak Village"?

A timely thread now that 3C is a go (mostly at least).

 

 

Does anyone know what street Dayton's Union Station was on?

Sixth and Ludlow.

Sixth & Ludlow will also be the site for Dayton's 3C station....even using the old elevated platforms of the original Union Station.

Although the old Painesville train depot has not seen a passenger train for decades, the structure still exists, and is supposedly in the midst of restoration--and has been for a very long time. I don't think there's a target date for completion. At least they didn't tear it down: "Built in 1893 by the Lake Shore & Michigan Southern Railroad, the Richardson Romanesque style building was considered the jewel of Painesville. In 1914, it became part of the New York Central, and in 1971 the last passenger train pulled out of the Painesville yard. Ownership of the station transferred to Conrail who used it for a signal department until 1992.  In 1993 Edward Dunlap purchased the depot and in 1997 donated it to the Western Reserve Railroad Association. The building, currently under restoration, recently received an Ohio Bicentennial marker."

 

^reminds me of a stop in rural England.  It would be nice if we had that sort of service over here.

^reminds me of a stop in rural England.  It would be nice if we had that sort of service over here.

trust me, it's not, at least based on the surrounding neighborhood. Instead of rustic, think rusty!

Cross-posted from the Youngstown Construction & Projects thread....

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,9063.msg475709.html#msg475709

 

Frangos Eyes Student Housing for Wick;

City Seeks Cleanup Funds for Erie Terminal

 

April 2, 2010 7:14 a.m.

By George Nelson

 

YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio -- Lou Frangos is rethinking his plans for the Wick Building to offer more student housing rather than upscale apartments for professionals, the Cleveland developer said Thursday.

 

Five apartments have been leased in the Realty Towers building, which Frangos’ company, The Frangos Group, has developed into upscale apartments. The Frangos Group owns several parking lots and buildings downtown, including Realty Towers and the Wick and Erie Terminal buildings.

 

READ MORE AT (WITH PHOTO):

http://business-journal.com/clients/business-journal/frangos-eyes-student-housing-for-wickbrcity-seeks-cleanup-funds-for-erie-p16129.htm?twindow=Default&smenu=1&mad=No

Reply #22 on: January 12, 2007, 12:25:36 AM by MRNYC

had a photo of the Lockwood Ohio Depot, however, the photo isn't showing up. I would like to get an email of this depot if anyone has any photos or information on it. I am with thei Historical Society & am trying to document the structure & railroad. Thanks

Roger

[email protected]

 

 

 

Cross-posted from the Youngstown-Warren developments thread:

 

This was also the eastern destination of Ohio's last commuter train, from Cleveland in 1977. This article also has a nice photo of the old railroad station that was inside the building with Erie Railroad offices in the upper floors....

 

Financial deal OK’d for Erie building

Company gets $2M loan, $350K for apartments

Published: Tue, August 30, 2011 @ 12:07 a.m.

By David Skolnick

[email protected]

 

YOUNGSTOWN

 

The city’s board of control approved a financial package — including a $2 million low-interest loan and $350,000 for water utility expenses — for the company converting the vacant Erie Terminal building into a 65-bed apartment complex.

 

The board had a special meeting Monday to approve the agreement with Erie Terminal Place, a Poland company owned by Dominic Marchionda, who also owns U.S. Campus Suites.

 

“It’s a great project that continues the link between downtown and the university,” said city Finance Director David Bozanich, a member of the board of control.

 

READ MORE AT:

http://www.vindy.com/news/2011/aug/30/financial-deal-ok8217d-for-erie-building/

Although the old Painesville train depot has not seen a passenger train for decades, the structure still exists, and is supposedly in the midst of restoration--and has been for a very long time. I don't think there's a target date for completion. At least they didn't tear it down: "Built in 1893 by the Lake Shore & Michigan Southern Railroad, the Richardson Romanesque style building was considered the jewel of Painesville. In 1914, it became part of the New York Central, and in 1971 the last passenger train pulled out of the Painesville yard. Ownership of the station transferred to Conrail who used it for a signal department until 1992.  In 1993 Edward Dunlap purchased the depot and in 1997 donated it to the Western Reserve Railroad Association. The building, currently under restoration, recently received an Ohio Bicentennial marker."

 

 

http://www.painesvilledepot.org/