October 17, 20186 yr Chase is giving $500M to cities with plans to narrow economic divide JPMorgan Chase has a $500 million plan to reduce the widening economic divide in American cities. The recently-announced AdvancingCities competition is a five-year project to invest in strategies that promote inclusive growth and seed big development ideas in 30 cities. Half of the investment will come through philanthropy and the other half low-cost, long-term capital commitments. It’s aimed at building four areas: small business, neighborhood revitalization, financial capability, and jobs and skills. Since it was announced last month, the program created huge interest, with the first few informational briefings attended by more than 1,800 local government, private sector and community groups. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2018/10/17/chase-is-giving-500m-to-cities-with-plans-to.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 18, 20186 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 25, 20196 yr Dear Brent, that's false hyperbole. The #Cleveland Union Terminal development in the 1920s/30s was bigger financially, geographically & popularly than the Group Plan. Mayor Campbell's lakefront plan can be even more consequential. Good plans should never die and always evolve.... It’s been 116 years since Cleveland had a transformational plan for the future. It needs one now: Brent Larkinhttps://www.cleveland.com/opinion/2019/01/its-been-116-years-since-cleveland-had-a-transformational-plan-for-the-future-it-needs-one-now-brent-larkin.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 25, 20196 yr Here is a quote from the article that made me shake my head: Quote *Begin talks with the Federal Aviation Administration about a long-term plan to close Burke Lakefront Airport, clearing the way for meaningful lakefront development east of the Cuyahoga River. Drive the four-mile stretch of the I-90 Shoreway from East 9th Street east to the village of Bratenahl border. It’s an embarrassing waste of prime lakefront property. And it’s been that way for more than 70 years. It's ironic that he bemoans Burke's use of lakefront real estate while driving on an 8 lane highway that also runs along the lakefront. Meanwhile not a word a word about transit or TOD. The subtle concerns about the city improving at the expense of the suburbs were also odd, as if the reverse hasn't been the case the last 75 years.
January 25, 20196 yr The problem was never with a lack of sweeping transformational ideas, but a lack of sweeping transformational actions.
January 25, 20196 yr ^ You are right. Actually the problem was the sweeping transformational ideas. The problem was that there was no effort to promote organic growth like we are seeing now. Too much focus on grand plans. At this stage in the game, I would confidently say that we could allow the entire west side to head in the direction it is going at the moment without any "major plans", and I think we would be very pleased with the outcome in the next 10 years. All attention and "plans" should be focused on the East side to reverse the downward spiral at the moment.
January 25, 20196 yr Exactly. As much as I would love to watch the show resulting from a transformational action, I question as to how sustainable that would be over the long-term. I'm enjoying the slow and steady reversal of fortunes occurring in some neighborhoods. And as we seen some get priced out of Downtown, Little Italy, Ohio City or Tremont, we are starting to see residential activity in places like Glenville, Midtown, Old Brooklyn and Clark-Metro. That's probably more sustainable. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 5, 20196 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 5, 20196 yr The upside of a foundation built on battery acid? Probably don't have to worry about termites or carpenter ants.
February 5, 20196 yr On 1/25/2019 at 9:25 AM, KJP said: Dear Brent, that's false hyperbole. The #Cleveland Union Terminal development in the 1920s/30s was bigger financially, geographically & popularly than the Group Plan. Mayor Campbell's lakefront plan can be even more consequential. Good plans should never die and always evolve.... It’s been 116 years since Cleveland had a transformational plan for the future. It needs one now: Brent Larkinhttps://www.cleveland.com/opinion/2019/01/its-been-116-years-since-cleveland-had-a-transformational-plan-for-the-future-it-needs-one-now-brent-larkin.html Dear Mr. Larkin, please be our new mayor.
February 5, 20196 yr He'd have my vote over "Inaction Jackson" or any of the rest of the clowns in city hall!
February 6, 20196 yr Sorry but what was so great about the Group Plan anyway? It hollowed out our downtown, made it less dense/mixed use, and replaced it with pretty but monolithic structures that we admire more than we use. As for Larkin/Jackson, could we please have someone for mayor who isn't in heaven's waiting room, pining for the return of Higbee's and Republic Steel? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 6, 20196 yr agreed KJP....I will never understand the fascination with the "Group Plan" it destroyed and chance at density in the middle of the city and gave us a bunch of unused grass strips.
February 6, 20196 yr I don't know anything about Larkin, just responding to the rhetoric of his article - especially the points about removing control over some favorite regional assets. Sometimes I feel like Cleveland is bit too much North Korea ?
March 1, 20196 yr The Real Powerhouses That Drive the World’s Economy Chi-Pitts: In third place is this great heartland mega-region which runs through Minneapolis, Chicago, Indianapolis, Detroit, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh, encompassing 50 metros large and small, in total. With a population of more than 30 million people, this mega-region produces more than $2 trillion in economic output, comparable to South Korea’s, making it roughly the 14th largest economy in the world. https://www.citylab.com/life/2019/02/global-megaregions-economic-powerhouse-megalopolis/583729/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 3, 20196 yr Quote https://www.esri.com/about/newsroom/blog/examining-philadelphias-property-tax-abatements/ With renewal well underway, but uneven, the Philadelphia City Council has begun to explore the implications of these policies on its residents. “The abatement has done its job to spur development, but maybe it’s done it in a way that’s creating problems for us now,” said Herb Wetzel, director of Housing and Community Development, Philadelphia City Council. Not sure if this is the right forum for this post, but despite being a much smaller city, is it time to limit where Tax Abatements are given out in Cleveland? It seems like Tremont, Ohio City, Detroit Shoreway (towards the lake) would be just fine without the current 15 year abatement, whereas it would benefit neighborhoods that are truly struggling for residents and investment. I'm no policy expert, but it seems like Philadelphia is on the right path in looking at these numbers and mapping them out- it seems like the three above mentioned neighborhoods would be glowing in an analysis hah.
April 3, 20196 yr 20 minutes ago, GISguy said: Not sure if this is the right forum for this post, but despite being a much smaller city, is it time to limit where Tax Abatements are given out in Cleveland? It seems like Tremont, Ohio City, Detroit Shoreway (towards the lake) would be just fine without the current 15 year abatement, whereas it would benefit neighborhoods that are truly struggling for residents and investment. I'm no policy expert, but it seems like Philadelphia is on the right path in looking at these numbers and mapping them out- it seems like the three above mentioned neighborhoods would be glowing in an analysis hah. I would counter that it makes more sense to boost a neighborhood that has begun to build momentum. It's easier to grow strong neighborhoods block by block than to try to nucleate them in areas surrounded by apathy, and even antipathy.
April 3, 20196 yr On 3/1/2019 at 7:47 AM, KJP said: The Real Powerhouses That Drive the World’s Economy Chi-Pitts: In third place is this great heartland mega-region which runs through Minneapolis, Chicago, Indianapolis, Detroit, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh, encompassing 50 metros large and small, in total. With a population of more than 30 million people, this mega-region produces more than $2 trillion in economic output, comparable to South Korea’s, making it roughly the 14th largest economy in the world. https://www.citylab.com/life/2019/02/global-megaregions-economic-powerhouse-megalopolis/583729/ It really is interesting how we classify things according to the political boundaries. Yet, those boundaries seem arbitrary when you look at patterns of human/economic behavior. Perhaps that is why we end up arguing about the definitions of CMA's vs. MSA's so often.
April 3, 20196 yr Just now, Terdolph said: The Hanna fountains were nice. Until they corroded and leaked through the roof of the convention center below. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 4, 20196 yr 20 hours ago, OH_Really said: It really is interesting how we classify things according to the political boundaries. Yet, those boundaries seem arbitrary when you look at patterns of human/economic behavior. Perhaps that is why we end up arguing about the definitions of CMA's vs. MSA's so often. In Northeast Ohio it would be because the two MSAs blend seamlessly. The northern summit county suburbs associate with Cleveland as much as Akron.
April 5, 20196 yr America’s Biggest Economic Challenge May Be Demographic Decline For many years, American economists have spoken of Japan and Western Europe as places where the slow grind of demographic change — masses of workers reaching retirement age, and smaller generations replacing them — has been a major drag on the economy. But it is increasingly outdated to think of that as a problem for other countries. The deepest challenge for the United States economy may really be about demographics. And our understanding of the implications is only starting to catch up. ... Dayton is the kind of place where that approach may just have some appeal. Ms. Whaley, the mayor, said a program called “Welcome Dayton,” intended to help immigrants move to the city, has been helpful in holding the population steady after a long pattern of losses. Programs like that, she said, combined with a low cost of living and investment in community colleges to create qualified workers, can give smaller cities like Dayton the means to break out of demographic ruts. Full article below: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/03/upshot/americas-biggest-economic-challenge-may-be-demographic-decline.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
June 14, 20196 yr On 4/21/2017 at 10:17 AM, KJP said: Rep. Tim Ryan suggests relocating federal agencies outside Washington, D.C. By Sabrina Eaton, cleveland.com on April 20, 2017 at 6:39 PM, updated April 20, 2017 at 8:41 PM WASHINGTON, D. C. - Could federal employment transplanted from the nation's capital replace some of the jobs lost in other parts of the country? That's what Rep. Tim Ryan wants to find out. The Niles Democrat introduced legislation Thursday that would establish a commission to study relocating federal agencies to economically distressed parts of the country, or "areas with expertise in the mission and goal of the agency." While the congressman said the nation should be proud of Washington, D.C. and its historic role, he said "the Founding Fathers could not have imagined our current federal government system, with more than 300,000 federal workers in the Washington D.C. metropolitan area in 190 federally-owned buildings and 500 leased buildings." MORE: http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/04/rep_tim_ryan_suggests_relocati.html#incart_most-commented_metro_article Remember this?? Well, apparently one branch of the federal government is taking it seriously. Now about that idea of moving the National Institutes of Health from Bethesda to Cleveland.... USDA Selects Kansas City for Relocation of Two Divisions Posted on June 14, 2019 by Kristin Hiller in Civic, Midwest, Missouri KANSAS CITY, MO. — The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) has selected the Kansas City region for the relocation of the Economic Research Service (ERS) and National Institute of Food and Agriculture (NIFA). U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue cites affordability, easy commutes and quality of life for the site selection process. “The Kansas City region has proven itself to be a hub for all things agriculture and is a booming city in America’s heartland,” he says. “There is already a significant presence of USDA and federal government employees in the region, including the Kansas City Ag Bank Federal Reserve.” In August, USDA had announced that it would undertake the relocations largely to attract and retain staff. The organization says it has been difficult to recruit employees to the Washington, D.C. area given the high cost of living and long commutes. While 90 percent of USDA employees are located outside of the D.C. area, ERS and NIFA are the only agencies that don’t have representation outside of the national capital region. MORE: https://rebusinessonline.com/usda-selects-kansas-city-for-relocation-of-two-divisions/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 14, 20196 yr Makes sense. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
June 14, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, KJP said: Remember this?? Well, apparently one branch of the federal government is taking it seriously. Now about that idea of moving the National Institutes of Health from Bethesda to Cleveland.... The whole NIH is too big a bite, of course. What might work, if NEO's congressional representation takes a united, consistent and steady pull, is that the Clinic's tissue repository (already NIH-funded) could grow into a branch of the NIH and become THE repository for the country. It takes time, patience, and politicians who give a damn about their districts. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
June 16, 20195 yr On 6/14/2019 at 3:30 PM, Dougal said: The whole NIH is too big a bite, of course. What might work, if NEO's congressional representation takes a united, consistent and steady pull, is that the Clinic's tissue repository (already NIH-funded) could grow into a branch of the NIH and become THE repository for the country. It takes time, patience, and politicians who give a damn about their districts. Honestly, the CDC should be located here. There are some office and influential labs here. if the CDC was looking to relocate, that would be a entity that city, state and local Federal Gov officials should jump on!
April 12, 20223 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 5, 20223 yr Is Chicago joining the Rust Belt? I just heard at lunch today that Boeing is leaving Chicago (moving there was a mistake to begin with) to Wash dc, specifically Crystal City across the river in Virginia. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
May 5, 20223 yr Chicago has McDonalds, United Airlines, Kraft Heinz, allstate, discover, Caterpillar. Chicago is no where close to joining the Rust Belt. Boeing is a big fish in a big pond with the same size big fish
May 5, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said: Chicago has McDonalds, United Airlines, Kraft Heinz, allstate, discover, Caterpillar. Chicago is no where close to joining the Rust Belt. Boeing is a big fish in a big pond with the same size big fish I mean, Cincinnati had Kroger, P&G, (what’s left of) Macy’s, Amazon Air, and General Electric and I think most people still consider Cincy somewhat rusty. I wouldn’t say Boeing leaving Chicago is a sign of a Rust Belt decline necessarily (although I think you can argue the south side is definitely Rust Belt), but I also don’t know if the presence of a lot of corporate headquarters is the best measure of a city’s Rust Belt status. “To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”
May 5, 20223 yr I've never heard that Chicago was not the rustbelt. It's always been a major manufacturing center. It has massive steel mills, though they are in smaller satellite cities like Hammond and Gary, In. It has all the same history and current challenges as other rust belt cities. The only real difference is scale and the relative resilience of its Downtown.
May 6, 20223 yr Generally, this has been the Rust Belt, which does include Chicago (I can't think of any map or definition that wouldn't include Chicago): "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 6, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, X said: I've never heard that Chicago was not the rustbelt. It's always been a major manufacturing center. It has massive steel mills, though they are in smaller satellite cities like Hammond and Gary, In. It has all the same history and current challenges as other rust belt cities. The only real difference is scale and the relative resilience of its Downtown. My comment was meant to question Chicago's future. Boeing isn't the only company to have left and the population has started declining. It sounds like Cleveland in the sixties. Chicago is starting with a much bigger base; but can you really say it is somehow exempt from what happened in Cleveland, Detroit, St. Louis, etc.? Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
May 6, 20223 yr 29 minutes ago, Dougal said: My comment was meant to question Chicago's future. Boeing isn't the only company to have left and the population has started declining. It sounds like Cleveland in the sixties. Chicago is starting with a much bigger base; but can you really say it is somehow exempt from what happened in Cleveland, Detroit, St. Louis, etc.? Chicago' s population is not declining, 2010 population 2,695,000 vs 2020 population of 2,746,000. Chicago is an economic powerhouse which leads the nation in new corp. relocations per Site Selection news data. It is nothing like Cleveland in the sixties. Fulton Market area and its West Loop area is home to new regional headquarters for Google, Facebook, and so many other national and international corporations. And even Boeings departure will still leave a large presence of Boeing employees in the downtown area. So i would temper talk of Chicago's decline, not even mentioning that its downtown leads the nation in new housing being developed. Has there been some rust ? yes, but nothing comparable to Cleveland, Detroit, or St.Louis.
May 6, 20223 yr Many huge companies are abandoning the Chicago burbs and moving into the city. Allstate and McDonalds most notably. The city is booming, and is in a state about as progressive as California and New York. The CTA is in full scale rehab going back to planning started years ago and is supported by the state. Chicago is fine and has no problem attracting talent. Backward Ohio and Missouri are the big problems holding back progress in the metropolitan areas within their boundries at this point TBH.
May 6, 20223 yr ^ These posts sound a lot like Clevelanders in the 60s. "Chicago is currently declining at a rate of -0.28% annually and its population has decreased by -0.89% since the most recent census, which recorded a population of 2,695,598 in 2010." {2020 population given as 2.671 million) According to the graph Chicago has been declining since it peaked in 1950 at 3.6 million, although at a slower rate than some other cities. https://worldpopulationreview.com/static/background_light.jpg Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
May 6, 20223 yr Chicago and New York City both went through pretty bad decline in the 60's and 70's as well. Both are in full renaissance back to the city movement and have been for 20 years. Population and decline of it in cities has been discussed a lot on boards in here as not the best indicator of the health of cities these days. Larger households are moving to the burbs, especially the Mexican population in Chicago that moved into the cheap housing in the 70's. They have since gained affluence and bought larger homes in burbs for the kids. They are replaced by smaller more affluent households with less or no children. Logan Square, Bucktown/Wicker Park, Pilsen, Fulton Market, UIC, Rogers Park, Edgewater, Uptown, Andersonville...the list goes on of where this happening. If dogs were counted as children, the population would be through the roof...haha. Edited May 6, 20223 yr by metrocity
May 6, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Dougal said: ^ These posts sound a lot like Clevelanders in the 60s. "Chicago is currently declining at a rate of -0.28% annually and its population has decreased by -0.89% since the most recent census, which recorded a population of 2,695,598 in 2010." {2020 population given as 2.671 million) According to the graph Chicago has been declining since it peaked in 1950 at 3.6 million, although at a slower rate than some other cities. https://worldpopulationreview.com/static/background_light.jpg Incorrect, the World Population review is an estimation of population, not an official fact gathering database. The official numbers from the U.S Census Bureau which does door to door research, list the population for Chicago 2020 as 2,746,388. Just the facts.
May 6, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, metrocity said: Chicago and New York City both went through pretty bad decline in the 60's and 70's as well. Both are in full renaissance back to the city movement and have been for 20 years. Population and decline of it in cities has been discussed a lot on boards in here as not the best indicator of the health of cities these days. Larger households are moving to the burbs, especially the Mexican population in Chicago that moved into the cheap housing in the 70's. They have since gained affluence and bought larger homes in burbs for the kids. They are replaced by smaller more affluent households with less or no children. Logan Square, Bucktown/Wicker Park, Pilsen, Fulton Market, UIC, Rogers Park, Edgewater, Uptown, Andersonville...the list goes on of where this happening. If dogs were counted as children, the population would be through the roof...haha. Household size alone could explain the drop in Chicago. It still has 75% of the population it had in 1950 within about the same size in area and mostly being built out in 1950. Also cities were a bit unnaturally crowded still in 1950 due to less new housing built in the thirties Depression era and the war using up so much human resources as well as materials through much of the forties. Many cities were actually unnaturally overcrowded with every housing unit packed and all and any hotels packed full as rooming houses-some loss was needed in already built out cities-Not 50 percent loss, but at least a little. From what I have heard from people who lived through that time, cities were very overcrowded.
May 6, 20223 yr 16 hours ago, ColDayMan said: Generally, this has been the Rust Belt, which does include Chicago (I can't think of any map or definition that wouldn't include Chicago): That's an interesting map and I would also include central Illinois and into Iowa there too. When you look at places like Peoria, the Quad Cities, Waterloo, IA and Cedar Rapids, IA (the latter where I'm from and is more "grain belt"). Though they weren't automotive per se, they are agriculture centric areas (John Deere & Caterpillar), and the make up of the cities resembles a lot of the rust belt too. That said they've been fairly even in population retention because their emphasis wasn't nearly as high as Cleveland or Detroit, etc. They just have a lot of the same elements in a much lower share.
May 6, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, vulcana said: Incorrect, the World Population review is an estimation of population, not an official fact gathering database. The official numbers from the U.S Census Bureau which does door to door research, list the population for Chicago 2020 as 2,746,388. Just the facts. Good for Chicago then. The city's website cites a slightly smaller number (2,716K) as the current population. https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/about/facts.html Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
March 2, 20232 yr Can Ohio Turn the Tables on “Brain Drain”? Although Rust Belt states have traditionally struggled to retain their college graduates, new data suggests that Ohio might be set to reverse the “brain drain” that has plagued the region for decades. Cover graphic by Ruth Chang for Midstory. https://www.midstory.org/can-ohio-turn-the-tables-on-brain-drain/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 2, 20232 yr 16 minutes ago, KJP said: Can Ohio Turn the Tables on “Brain Drain”? Although Rust Belt states have traditionally struggled to retain their college graduates, new data suggests that Ohio might be set to reverse the “brain drain” that has plagued the region for decades. Cover graphic by Ruth Chang for Midstory. https://www.midstory.org/can-ohio-turn-the-tables-on-brain-drain/ I don’t know, but this will just completely remove the brain. Ohio Senate sends bill to House overhauling Ohio Department of Education, gutting state school board Edited March 2, 20232 yr by VintageLife
May 28, 20232 yr If you're worried about Ohio's regressive politics, just by moving here you change the political equation. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 28, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, KJP said: If you're worried about Ohio's regressive politics, just by moving here you change the political equation. Exactly this. I get people being scared and wanting out, but we need people to stay. People don’t think about how losing some of these Midwest states and handing them over to republicans will make it harder and harder to win president. If liberals all move to 3-4 states the dems will never win the presidential election again.
June 12, 20232 yr Do we think there are any achievable actions toward encouraging our revival that Cleveland could take? It is great to see dense residential constructed in the West side, but tax incentives have not mitigated disinvestment on the East side. We could ban diesel freight traffic within city limits, to encourage rail electrification. Not to mention the jobs generated to execute this project. Hell I'd like to legislate away all tax incentives to publicly traded companies within city limits.
June 12, 20232 yr Here’s my proposal to spur revitalization - reroute the Blue Line to connect Shaker Square to Uni Circle and Cleveland Clinic. Enabling people to go car free or car-light; drastically reducing what the hospitals and CWRU have to spend on parking garages; and giving people a really good reason to live in Cleveland or Shaker instead of further out suburbs. Plus improving quality of live for everyone with access to a rapid station. Note that many underinvested east side neighborhoods are either close to or have decent bus service to the Shaker Lines or the Red Line. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
June 12, 20232 yr Quote Note that many underinvested east side neighborhoods are either close to or have decent bus service to the Shaker Lines or the Red Line. It isn't whether the bus service is passable or not, rather, is that the most efficient to reach the economic throughput to support the locals. Dense areas in the East deserve quality local rail access. I love your recommendation shared though! If we both love your concept, do we have levers that we could pull to make it happen? I've read some of the ridership studies and recommendations GCRTA has produced in the past that have positive feedback for rail extensions. One of them for an extension past Windermere Stokes to connect to the Lake County border that was released over half a decade ago. We are nowhere closer to that extension than before the study was done.
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