Have fun:

 

http://www.richblockspoorblocks.com/

Who's Rick Blocks?

Somebody I killed 1 minute ago ;).

These blocks are a mess.  Going from my house to my parents house the median income raises $193K

 

 

 

Wow, casually poking around, I couldn't find any other major city that had a census tract that compared to this one..Census Tract 1093.01, Cuyahoga County, Ohio.  Median Income in this tract is ridiculously low...

Not as low as tract 29 in Lucas County...

or 1098.01 in Cuyahoga.

Poorest section of Lakewood OH checking in.

Awesome link. Thanks for sharing!

Poorest section of Lakewood OH checking in.

 

LOL.  KJP, there goes the neighborhood!  Beware!!

These blocks are a mess.  Going from my house to my parents house the median income raises $193K

 

You live near Shaker Square and your parents live what, in the tract that straddles Shaker Boulevard east of Lee and west of Warrensville Center, and includes almost all of South Park Boulevard?  Why is it a shock that there would be such a difference in incomes?  Particularly since your block includes some high-density neighborhoods south of Shaker Square, including part of Buckeye, which as far as I can tell is fairly impoverished.  Or are you just taking issue with the way the boundaries are drawn?

 

In fairness, there can be a big difference between income and wealth and I'm not sure that maps like these account for that.  For what it's worth, I remember seeing a website a few years ago that listed the 1000 richest neighborhoods in the United States and two of them were in Shaker Heights (along with a few in the further out suburbs such as Pepper Pike, Gates Mills, and Hunting Valley).  A lot of it simply has to do with how the boundaries of these census tracts or "neighborhoods" are drawn. 

 

No matter how you slice it, though, there is a indeed a big disparity in income or wealth between different neighborhoods in Shaker Heights.  Probably as much as you'll find in any one city with any amount of density in Northeast Ohio or perhaps even the entire Midwest.

Wooo! 2nd poorest tract in my metropolitan area here.... LOL

These blocks are a mess.  Going from my house to my parents house the median income raises $193K

 

You live near Shaker Square and your parents live what, in the tract that straddles Shaker Boulevard east of Lee and west of Warrensville Center, and includes almost all of South Park Boulevard?  Why is it a shock that there would be such a difference in incomes?  Particularly since your block includes some high-density neighborhoods south of Shaker Square, including part of Buckeye, which as far as I can tell is fairly impoverished.  Or are you just taking issue with the way the boundaries are drawn?

 

In fairness, there can be a big difference between income and wealth and I'm not sure that maps like these account for that.  For what it's worth, I remember seeing a website a few years ago that listed the 1000 richest neighborhoods in the United States and two of them were in Shaker Heights (along with a few in the further out suburbs such as Pepper Pike, Gates Mills, and Hunting Valley).  A lot of it simply has to do with how the boundaries of these census tracts or "neighborhoods" are drawn. 

 

No matter how you slice it, though, there is a indeed a big disparity in income or wealth between different neighborhoods in Shaker Heights.  Probably as much as you'll find in any one city with any amount of density in Northeast Ohio or perhaps even the entire Midwest.

 

Oh no its not a shock.  Some of drawn voting district are strange.  And the sickening wealth around me. 

 

In NY, the blocks are so varied.

Here we go:

 

http://higley1000.com/about-this-site/methodology/neighborhoods-by-metro

 

The above must be older data (from the 2000 census, perhaps?).

Here we go:

 

http://higley1000.com/about-this-site/methodology/neighborhoods-by-metro

 

The above must be older data (from the 2000 census, perhaps?).

 

Boy did they mess up those neighborhood names.  Laureldale?  WTH?!  I've in Shaker/Shaker Sq. for 45 years and have never heard that name.  That's the Mercer neighborhood!! Malvern stretches from Warrensville South to Lee.  Boulevard is from Lee South, to  127 St, North of Shaker Blvd.  SMDH!

Here we go:

 

http://higley1000.com/about-this-site/methodology/neighborhoods-by-metro

 

The above must be older data (from the 2000 census, perhaps?).

 

Boy did they mess up those neighborhood names.  Laureldale?  WTH?!  I've in Shaker/Shaker Sq. for 45 years and have never heard that name.  That's the Mercer neighborhood!! Malvern stretches from Warrensville South to Lee.  Boulevard is from Lee South, to  127 St, North of Shaker Blvd.  SMDH!

 

My guess is that they simply used some made up names to describe those respective "neighborhoods," particularly since (as my theory goes) they are based on Census tracts and not on the specifically-defined neighborhoods that Shaker Heights locals have come to know (and officially recognized by the City of Shaker Heights).

The gov't, Google Maps and old paper maps can dig up all kinds of forgotten neighborhood and hamlet names of which nobody but local historians would recognize.

The gov't, Google Maps and old paper maps can dig up all kinds of forgotten neighborhood and hamlet names of which nobody but local historians would recognize.

 

True.  I've seen things like "Bluestone," "Fairmount," and "Ambler Heights" listed in the Heights area on certain online mapping websites and thought that was kind of cool. Though I've never seen any of the names for SH neighborhoods that are listed on the above website.

^ http://www.deadohio.com/Bluestone.htm

 

Anytime I dig in my yard, I run into more of this stuff than I find dirt.

LOL.  KJP, there goes the neighborhood!  Beware!!

 

My side of Clifton has a median household income of $34,408.00 (+/- $6,435.00).

 

The other side of the street from me is $42,847.00 (+/- $4,440.00). That's the Gold Coast.

 

I guess I live on the low side of the Bronze Coast.

The gov't, Google Maps and old paper maps can dig up all kinds of forgotten neighborhood and hamlet names of which nobody but local historians would recognize.

 

Some of the neighborhood names for Maple Heights I never heard, and I lived there over 40 years with an interest in local history.

This isnt blocks.  It isnt even block groups...its census tracts!  Not that much detail.

The gov't, Google Maps and old paper maps can dig up all kinds of forgotten neighborhood and hamlet names of which nobody but local historians would recognize.

 

Some of the neighborhood names for Maple Heights I never heard, and I lived there over 40 years with an interest in local history.

 

You want to find location names that have been forgotten a long time ago? Look up old railroad and canal maps. You'll find places in Cuyahoga County called Cloggsville, Barry, Bement, Dewars, Pardee, Collamer, and yes Bluestone are on the old railway maps. Great stuff.

I believe that a lot of these old place names derive from old local post offices, as well.  They may not have been much of a town at all beyond that.

Some might also be original subdivision names, when initially platted from farms or estates.

The site would be sooo much better if it showed previous census numbers as well as change over time. 

This isnt blocks.  It isnt even block groups...its census tracts!  Not that much detail.

 

We know these are census tracks.  I'm talking about the names of neighborhoods listed in Post No. 7 by clevelander17

I believe that a lot of these old place names derive from old local post offices, as well.  They may not have been much of a town at all beyond that.

Some might also be original subdivision names, when initially platted from farms or estates.

 

I've searched to see if there was anything ever known as laureldale in Shaker.

interesting. i poked around a bit.

 

mine as a kid were all lower $30k's. one was next to an $18k.

 

the bg collegetown neighborhoods were lower $20k's, not surprising, but funny to see.

 

the lower manhattan neighborhoods are just all over the place. easy to parse tho if you realize where the big pj's are pulling down what you know are otherwise pretty high median incomes.