Does Northside need any more restaurants?

 

 

Huh?  The only neighborhood id say that about right now is OTR.

 

This is a very exciting project for Northside. Northside has huge potential to be the close-but-not-OTR neighborhood. An area where you want an urban feel but perhaps a 2k square foot home on a small lot instead of a condo.

^ It's basically been that for much longer than OTR has been in its recent state. I agree it must continue improving, and this is a good step...although...the architecture! The horrible architecture!

I hope the wood companies starts coming down to Cincinnati, they did a bang up job in short north on this:

 

http://www.columbusunderground.com/wood-companies-new-short-north-apartments-going-skyward

 

Which would not be out of place at all in Northside - the thing CR is building is hideous.

I hope the wood companies starts coming down to Cincinnati, they did a bang up job in short north on this:

 

http://www.columbusunderground.com/wood-companies-new-short-north-apartments-going-skyward

 

Which would not be out of place at all in Northside - the thing CR is building is hideous.

 

Do you have pictures of the project completed? The rendering doesn't look good IMO. Looks like faux-historic schlock. Better than the Northside building, though, I'll give you that.

I don't have a very good pic, but here it is. (see attached)

 

I don't think its the best, but it's a heck of a lot better than this proposed building in Northside.

 

Is that the building that has North Star on the ground floor? Pretty damn good for infill, IMO. 

^Yes.

Is that the building that has North Star on the ground floor? Pretty damn good for infill, IMO.

 

Yes.  When I first saw it I thought, why isn't this building in Cincinnati?

Yea that's better than anything built at the Banks or USquare and looks a whole lot better than the proposed Delta Flats or Northside development.  I agree neilworms, I hope they make it to Cincy soon.  The stuff they are building here is horrible looking!

Do you have pictures of the project completed?

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,2062.msg662947.html#msg662947

Thanks, Columbo. That post (from 2/14) just barely survived the UO Apocalypse!

 

It's not my favorite, but it's a hell of a lot better than most of the junk getting built in Cincy.

 

I like this infill in OTR better. It fits the historic environment without mocking it.

^I don't understand why everyone is so impressed with that building.  I think it looks cheap, and is definitely lacking in ornamentation.  In my opinion, the best infill in Cincinnati is:

 

- Scattered housing in Mt. Adams. There are some really high quality, urban row houses that have either filled gaps or replaced inferior quality housing.

 

- Michigan Terrace in HP Square.  The best usage of setbacks in the city to maximize density without overwhelming the Square. Ground floor retail, hidden parking.

 

- The first phase of new development in Mariemont. The second phase is oriented towards a lower price point, and uses some cheaper materials. But the first phase is truly first rate, and a great example of housing on the first floor of a decently busy street.

I like this infill in OTR better. It fits the historic environment without mocking it.

 

Its not bad (certainly better than half of these cookiecutter developments we've been seeing lately, but I kind of like the building across and to the north a bit better (the one Quan Hapa is in).

Does anyone know what's going in on the western side of Race St. at the corner of 9th or 10th? My girlfriend and I were walking back from Bluegrass Thursdays at Washington Park and noticed that what looked like a restaurant was being built there. That would be exciting--Race St. between 7th/8th and Central is kind of dead (it would help if Shooter's wasn't such a bunker of a building).

Does anyone know what's going in on the western side of Race St. at the corner of 9th or 10th? My girlfriend and I were walking back from Bluegrass Thursdays at Washington Park and noticed that what looked like a restaurant was being built there. That would be exciting--Race St. between 7th/8th and Central is kind of dead (it would help if Shooter's wasn't such a bunker of a building).

 

Martini Bar

(I apologize if there is already a thread for this but I did not see one)

 

But I saw on twitter that 906 main (where B/G Diner is, close to the courthouse) is going to be redeveloped into ~20 apartments and the retail space will be renovated.

 

I wonder if this is a product of streetcar being right outside its front door or the high demand for apartments.  Or a mix of both. Regardless its great to see this building being put to good use in the future.

 

..now if some of those parking lots around there would vanish.

I wonder if this is a product of streetcar being right outside its front door or the high demand for apartments.  Or a mix of both. Regardless its great to see this building being put to good use in the future.

 

I'm kind of surprised this whole part of downtown that has more lowrise apartment buildings isn't taking off faster - the housing stock is fantastic - I mean much of Court Street is intact and close to Vine in OTR, it should be bustling!

 

Oh and btw: http://cincystreetcar.wordpress.com/2013/08/12/906-main-street-to-undergo-400000-redevelopment-create-20-apartments/

^^^ Yes I have wondered the same thing.  Court street has a lot of potential to it, but even on weekends it can feel dead.  hopefully some development moves north in the CBD and can create some action up that way. 

 

 

(I apologize if there is already a thread for this but I did not see one)

 

But I saw on twitter that 906 main (where B/G Diner is, close to the courthouse) is going to be redeveloped into ~20 apartments and the retail space will be renovated.

 

I wonder if this is a product of streetcar being right outside its front door or the high demand for apartments.  Or a mix of both. Regardless its great to see this building being put to good use in the future.

 

..now if some of those parking lots around there would vanish.

 

$400,000 for 20 apartments, ground floor retail space, and LEED certification? That sounds impossibly low to me. Possibly missing a 0?

^I was thinking the same thing. It seems like there is some misinformation somewhere. Regardless though spreading out the residential development is going to be good.

I wonder if this is a product of streetcar being right outside its front door or the high demand for apartments.  Or a mix of both. Regardless its great to see this building being put to good use in the future.

 

I'm kind of surprised this whole part of downtown that has more lowrise apartment buildings isn't taking off faster - the housing stock is fantastic - I mean much of Court Street is intact and close to Vine in OTR, it should be bustling!

 

 

 

I wonder if The Courthouse isn't partly to blame?  It's quite over parked during the day and then has a pretty odd mix of vagrants at night.  Are the actual buildings too small to create a large enough return on investment?  I still think our city has work to do in engaging the smaller, private citizen developers.  Clearly the large guys are knocking out a ton of projects right now!

 

 

 

The courthouse is a bit of a monolith, and the jail and county sheriff's office don't help.  There's a pretty toxic amount of surface parking all around there.  That hurts Court Street more so because it's so wide and open to begin with, especially with Central Parkway just a block away.  If some of the smaller lots get built up then I don't think it would be too hard to get a critical mass going that might then spur development of the larger lots. 

I wonder if any of the parking lots along the south side of Central Parkway will be developed before any major developments start happening north of Liberty.

FWIW, from my experience in jury duty, they never promote Metro to the jury pool - just parking.

Developer plans new apartments along streetcar line

Chris Wetterich Staff reporter- Cincinnati Business Courier

 

The mostly vacant Schwartz office building on Main Street near the Hamilton County Courthouse will be converted into 20 LEED-certified apartment buildings by 2015.

 

Black Iron Capital LLC bought the building on March 27 for $446,000 at a sheriff’s auction, according to documents submitted to the city of Cincinnati. The building had an assessed value of $708,440, according to Hamilton County auditor records.

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/morning_call/2013/08/developer-plans-new-apartments-along.html

So it is $400,000... interesting. They must not need much work?

 

Church renovation forges on

Written by Carrie Blackmore Smith

 

 

Jen Walters is full of resolve, sitting in her makeshift office in the fourth floor attic of St. Michael’s the Archangel Church.

 

About a year ago, Walters announced a renovation of the Lower Price Hill Community School, a nonprofit agency she directs that for more than 30 years has provided educational opportunities like GED prep, college courses and job training. She also talked about an ambitious transformation of St. Michael’s into a multi-use neighborhood center supporting the unique needs of Lower Price Hill residents.

 

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20130813/NEWS10/308130078/Nonprofits-part-ways-Lower-Price-Hill-church-project

Another luxury apartment project planned for Oakley

Tom Demeropolis Reporter- Cincinnati Business Courier

 

 

Buckingham Cos., an Indianapolis-based real estate developer, plans to build 271 upscale apartments on a seven-acre site in Oakley.

 

The developers have been coming to Oakley Community Council meetings to explain the project since the end of 2012, said Peter Draugelis, president of the Oakley Community Council and a partner with Dinsmore.

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2013/09/03/another-luxury-apartment-project.html

That's some good news.  When I drive by on the ridge side of the block this is proposed for, I always notice the houses right there look really run down and abandoned.  This could be a good way to get rid of those, since it seems no one wants to renovate them.  It will also increase density and renovate an old commercial building there.  It's good that even though they didn't chose a more urban design for Oakley Station, that Oakley is still interested in increasing density and becoming more urban.

I sometimes dream of what it would be like if after Oakley Station is built, and all of the lots around there are built out that are possible.  I think it would be genius if Crossroads built a couple of garages back behind their building, and then divided their property up into lots and sold off all the space in front of their buildings that is parking now.  After everything else is built out, they could sell that space for millions, and then it would allow the Oakley business district to expand along Madison all the way to Ridge.

Ah yeah, those houses and warehouses are in the "North Oakley" belt north of Brotherton and Minot, West of Ridge and south of the train tracks which is still not really all that hot as it stands. Like that one bar on Brotherton across from the Domino's that my neighbor (and old friend from college) always warned me not to patronize but I always ended up going to anyway. Something fresh there might change that.

I wonder how this will manifest itself on the ground considering parking (sigh).  It seems like either the entire property gets paved over for surface parking or they stuff in a garage that ends up destroying the streetscape on at least one side.  At least this development can turn the "service" end to the railroad tracks.

This site: http://goo.gl/maps/B4nqg (not the lot to the left)

 

I wonder how it will turn out. Reusing the old industrial building will be nice - it has character. Their other projects (http://www.buckingham-co.com/Pages/default.aspx) have been quite nice, and I've been to some of their sites on visits.

Was told today by someone in the know they are no longer planning to restore the old warehouse building. It will be coming down. Apparently even after demo it was $400k more to reuse building that to build new.

 

Hoping the quality is similar to Boulevard. I've been impressed with the buildings over there. Remember, the apartment developer of The Boulevard at Owklry station is who is also doing the 4th & Race tower.

What building are you talking about?

This one I assume:  http://goo.gl/maps/dpsb1

 

Figures, they say they're gonna restore/reuse an old building to help build support, but OOPS, sorry, we can't do it after all. 

Something is happening at the cleared corner of Vine & Mitchell.  No doubt a Walgreen's to answer to the CVS across the street. 

St Bernard Public Safety station. A combined police & fire station. State of Ohio had to buy their current fire station as part of 75 widening.

New million-dollar homes are coming to Hyde Park: EXCLUSIVE

Tom Demeropolis Reporter- Cincinnati Business Courier

 

 

Six new single-family lots are coming to the heart of Hyde Park.

 

A former monastery built in the 1950s will be demolished to make way for the new homes off Erie Avenue, five blocks from Hyde Park Square.

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2013/09/06/new-million-dollar-homes-are-coming-to.html

Nobody wants to live in the monastery itself? Do companies even know how to build houses that belong in Hyde Park today? No EIFS, OK?.

If I had the cash, I'd build a replica of the abandoned Phillips 66 station where Michigan Terrace now stands.  You know, the one the NIMBY's fought so hard to save circa 2004. 

I would rather have 12 $500k homes than 6 $1 million homes, but it's still always good to add more product and more people in the city. Also, unless they build LEED Platinum they will still be paying tens of thousands in property taxes.

I walked by the Ingalls building this morning and saw there was scaffolding around the base going up to the second floor.  i know there has been some speculation about some activity taking place in this building soon.  It could be just routine maintenance, but worth mentioning i feel.

 

i checked building permits online and didnt see any for that address for 2013 so who knows. Anyone else heard anything?

I would rather have 12 $500k homes than 6 $1 million homes, but it's still always good to add more product and more people in the city. Also, unless they build LEED Platinum they will still be paying tens of thousands in property taxes.

 

$1M+ is a really hot segment of real estate right now. 1%ers

^In related news, something like 40% of all home sales growth in 2013 is cash.  That means the 1%ers are buying up homes all over the place and renting them out and/or giving them to relatives. 

Yep, we were talking about it over in the Econ thread.

Something is being built at Vine and Mitchell in St. Bernard (http://goo.gl/maps/QBvfx). No signs have been posted, but there is a construction fence, lots of grubbing and the start of a foundation.

Someone mentioned in another thread that St Bernard is building a new safety center because their current one is being taken by I75 construction.

That would explain the odd set back from Vine then. Oh well :(

 

As a side note, several of the junked houses along Mitchell between I-75 and Vine are set for demo soon.

Greiwe Development adds fourth phase to Mariemont condo project: EXCLUSIVE

Tom Demeropolis Reporter- Cincinnati Business Courier

 

 

Greiwe Development Group, with its partners North American Properties, Sibcy Cline and architect CR Architecture + Design, will build a fourth phase at its luxury condominium development project in the village of Mariemont.

 

Currently known as Phase IV, the as-of-yet unnamed development will add 23 units, extending Mariemont’s Village Square to Plainville and Murray roads.

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2013/09/16/greiwe-development-adds-fourth-phase.html

very exciting project for Mariemont.  Mariemont and Wyoming are my two favorite suburbs.  Randy's proposed municipal consolidation was almost entirely poor or financially struggling neighborhoods that the city of Cincinnati would then have to deal with.  Mariemont and Wyoming (along with Amberley) were somehow left off that list.  They are the ONLY 3 municipalities (maybe Norwood if all of its debt could be cancelled) that I think should join the City of Cincinnati.