March 23, 20169 yr I don't know the full story, but there were very strict sign laws passed sometime between the 1970s and 1990s. Can someone fill in more details? Cincinnati actually used to be one of the most sign heavy cities in the US it makes old shots of OTR even at the beginning of its serious decline look amazing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vine_Street,_Cincinnati#/media/File:Cincinnati_Vine_Street_in_1973.jpg
April 7, 20169 yr Greiwe’s luxury condos selling faster than anticipated The final phase of a luxury condominium development in Mariemont is selling faster than expected. Livingood Park, the fourth and final phase of Greiwe Development Group’s Mariemont Village Square, is an 18-unit condo development. With the building topping out on April 6, 10 of the 18 units have been pre-purchased. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/04/07/greiwe-s-luxury-condos-selling-faster-than.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 7, 20169 yr Good. Move those things off the market, along with 2770 Observatory, and redirect that equity into development Downtown.
April 19, 20169 yr Has anyone heard of any project going on in Columbia Tusculum on the NW Corner of Columbia Parkway and Hoge Street, reaching all the way up to Handman Ave? Reason I ask is that a repair shop was just demolished and it looks like the corner building, some sort of green store is closed now. Behind all of this along Hoge Street when I walked by I noticed it looked as though they are backfilling in that little valley there and they have taken down all the trees. There is also a new, large PVC pipe petruding out of the ground where the repair shop once was. To me it almost looks like the large site is being readied for a large development of some sort, looking like it is on par to be as large as the recently completed Delta Flats if not larger. Here is the general area on Google Maps: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cincinnati,+OH/@39.1171028,-84.4386577,193m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x884051b1de3821f9:0x69fb7e8be4c09317!6m1!1e1 Quickly drove by here the other day and noticed they are staging a lot of machinery and equipment on the now empty lot where the service station used to sit. I will check it out today to see if I can catch a glimpse of what's going on.
April 19, 20169 yr I hope something fairly substantial goes there. If that site and the other remaining out-lot of the hideous strip mall can be developed, it will really help the CT business district feel more cohesive.
April 20, 20169 yr Great to see more new investment, not too keen on the garage entrance though. Towne Properties plans new Downtown condos Bowdeya Tweh, [email protected] 1:28 p.m. EDT April 19, 2016 One of the largest Cincinnati-based real estate development companies is targeting Court Street to add to its Downtown residential portfolio. Mount Adams-based Towne Properties plans to renovate the former home of Bon Marche Department Store to create six condominiums. http://www.cincinnati.com/story/money/2016/04/19/towne-properties-plans-new-downtown-condos/83224468/
April 20, 20169 yr Yeah, I am not certain why they couldn't simply make the garage entrance in the alley. Definitely that area of court street needs a lot of love. Good also to hear about the apartments going up across the street that article mentioned. It seems also these buildings would not be as expensive to brush up as a lot of the buildings in OTR / Main Street Downtown, etc. I sometimes worry if all the developers have already snatched up all the buildings and no one can get in on their own.
April 20, 20169 yr I really hope that a trend doesn't develop to cannibalize the first floor of buildings for parking. That will not add to street life at all, which is what makes urban living interesting in my opinion.
April 20, 20169 yr I'm not sure where to post this. Does anyone know what this building is? It's on the SE corner of 4th and Race and I see it everyday while exiting my apartment. The scaffolding has been up for months (presumably in the Dennison Hotel fashion). However, today there is a new construction rubbish chute on the backside with construction guys tooling around. Does anyone know what is going on? I love this building and I hope something good is happening with it.
April 20, 20169 yr I believe it was originally supposed to be a part of the McAlpin condo development but that phase never came to fruition. Hopefully that changes soon. Would be great to get such a good looking building back to life.
April 20, 20169 yr So, this building was city owned, but Councilmember Bortz made the city give it to the developer for cheap with no clawback if it didnt get developed. Friends helping friends. The city has been cracking down on them because of the deteriorating condition. Allegedly, it may be sold soon for a development. Fingers crossed.
April 20, 20169 yr If this, the TJ Maxx site and 4th/race all get new life back in them, that stretch of 4th will be much more active.
April 20, 20169 yr Does anyone know the plans for 305-309 sycamore? I saw today it sold to ANTAEUS INC. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
April 21, 20169 yr Does anyone know the plans for 305-309 sycamore? I saw today it sold to ANTAEUS INC. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Looks like one of the registered agents is the owner of the Ichiban restaurant in Mt Lookout Square. So, maybe a new restaurant venture... http://www.bizapedia.com/oh/ANTAEUS-INC.html http://www.manta.com/c/mt4gpx3/ichiban-restaurant https://www.dln.com/newcorporations/details/ref_index/59975
April 21, 20169 yr The 23 W Court St project has details in this packet (pages 73-108): http://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/buildings/historic-conservation/historic-conservation-board/april-18-2016-staff-report-materials-for-items-1-2-3-4-5/ Here's an article on the project from Enquirer: http://www.cincinnati.com/story/money/2016/04/19/towne-properties-plans-new-downtown-condos/83224468/ I'm a bit sad to see them put a garage door and curb cut on Court St, but overall this looks like a good project that will bring more activity to this block. Here's the schematic showing why they felt they couldn't make the garage work with only access from Pendery Alley... but I look at it and feel like they could have made it work by centering the garage door on Pendery and moving the parking spaces all the way to the east wall (would require moving the support beams that run through the center of the building). In any case, I'm very glad to see this building get renovated.
April 22, 20169 yr What happened to the posts over the last few days in this thread? My original post on the Court St. condos and several other comments are missing.
April 26, 20169 yr High-end condos planned for downtown Cincinnati A real estate developer is planning to convert a building on East Eighth Street into high-end condominiums. KRC Properties LLC purchased 17 E. Eighth St. from Navarro Photography LLC for $500,000. Randy Lasley, managing partner of KRC Properties, said he plans to turn the building into three residential condos. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/04/26/exclusive-high-end-condos-planned-for-downtown.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 2, 20169 yr Does anyone know the plans for 305-309 sycamore? I saw today it sold to ANTAEUS INC. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Looks like one of the registered agents is the owner of the Ichiban restaurant in Mt Lookout Square. So, maybe a new restaurant venture... http://www.bizapedia.com/oh/ANTAEUS-INC.html http://www.manta.com/c/mt4gpx3/ichiban-restaurant https://www.dln.com/newcorporations/details/ref_index/59975 Yep: http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/05/02/exclusive-ichiban-owner-buys-downtown-cincinnati.html EXCLUSIVE: Ichiban owner buys downtown Cincinnati bar and restaurant The owner of Ichiban in Mount Lookout purchased a bar and restaurant in downtown Cincinnati for nearly $1 million. Yu Bin Lin, who owns Ichiban and Dragon City IV in Cheviot, purchased In Between Tavern at 307 Sycamore St. from 307 Sycamore Holding Co. LLC for $960,000.
May 2, 20169 yr Seems weird to continue to operate it as "In Between Tavern" and just add some sushi to the menu. Hopefully it gets a full rebrand/overhaul. Glad to see the apartments are being renovated as well.
May 3, 20169 yr ^ There are a handful of bars near 3rd Street that seemingly make most of their money during Reds and/or Bengals games, and just need a handful of people in for lunch or a couple drinks per day during the off-season. I wouldn't be surprised if the In Between operates in the green as is and this was more of a real estate investment than a push for a new restaurant concept.
May 3, 20169 yr ^I agree with taestell[/member] ... it doesn't make sense to add sushi to the menu if they leave the rest of the In Between Tavern as-is. I suspect they realize there's more money to be made if they can appeal to the downtown market outside of just game days.
May 3, 20169 yr A friend of mine who worked in Atrium has mentioned that it's a popular after-work place for people in that part of downtown.
May 3, 20169 yr There isn't a lot of competition in that area for after-work drinks, and the sports bar vibe works well for a laid back happy hour.
May 5, 20169 yr Can't access the full article, but more good news! EXCLUSIVE: Tom Neyer buys 2 downtown Cincinnati buildings for redevelopment May 5, 2016, 10:32am EDT Tom Demeropolis Senior Staff Reporter Cincinnati Business Courier An affiliate of Neyer Holdings Corp. purchased the buildings at 128 and 130 E. Sixth St., known as the Reakirt and Brunswick buildings, respectively, from Kiji Steakhouse Inc. for $2 million. Tom Neyer Jr. purchased two more buildings in the heart of downtown Cincinnati with plans to renovate the properties. http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/05/05/exclusive-tom-neyer-buys-2-downtown-cincinnati.html Google Street View: https://www.google.com/maps/place/128+E+6th+St,+Cincinnati,+OH+45202/@39.1028584,-84.5106407,3a,75y,309.32h,119.45t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s8B8TM6uKkmnN4xpHtuZp5Q!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D8B8TM6uKkmnN4xpHtuZp5Q%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D392%26h%3D106%26yaw%3D320.66592%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x8841b15a197b9b59:0xd07f505101d136!8m2!3d39.1029389!4d-84.5107257!6m1!1e1
May 6, 20169 yr Slated to become two hotels, Fourth and Walnut Center also will become a historic landmark May 6, 2016, 2:52pm EDT Chris Wetterich Staff reporter and columnist Cincinnati Business Courier The Daniel Burnham-designed Fourth and Walnut Centre, whose owner plans to spend $100 million turning the three-building site into multiple hotels, will become a local historic landmark. The Cincinnati Planning Commission voted unanimously on Friday to designate the center as a historic site. http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/05/06/slated-to-become-two-hotels-fourth-and-walnut.html
May 12, 20169 yr New apartments coming to Court Street A developer is renovating a Court Street building downtown and turning it into 12 apartments and first-floor retail space. The Cincinnati City Council approved an eight-year tax exemption for the building at 28-32 W. Court St. on Wednesday. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/05/12/new-apartments-coming-to-court-street.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 12, 20169 yr Downtown Cincinnati office building sold to become residential space An out-of-town developer purchased a downtown Cincinnati office building for nearly $3.3 million and plans to renovate the property. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/05/12/downtown-cincinnati-office-building-sold-to-become.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 12, 20169 yr New apartments coming to Court Street A developer is renovating a Court Street building downtown and turning it into 12 apartments and first-floor retail space. The Cincinnati City Council approved an eight-year tax exemption for the building at 28-32 W. Court St. on Wednesday. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/05/12/new-apartments-coming-to-court-street.html This is huge as West Court Deli is a source of problems in the area. I'm assuming they will be kicked out as part of the development. "Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago." - Warren Buffett
May 12, 20169 yr Downtown Cincinnati office building sold to become residential space An out-of-town developer purchased a downtown Cincinnati office building for nearly $3.3 million and plans to renovate the property. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/05/12/downtown-cincinnati-office-building-sold-to-become.html I have looked at this building's plans before and it currently only has one stair, so past developers have not thought a rehab was worth it because they would have to squeeze another stair into each floor plate for a second means of egress. Good to see that another developer is looking at the building, because that is the center of downtown in terms of being near all the action and fountain square and streetcar. Should be able to fetch some high rents.
May 13, 20169 yr New apartments coming to Court Street A developer is renovating a Court Street building downtown and turning it into 12 apartments and first-floor retail space. The Cincinnati City Council approved an eight-year tax exemption for the building at 28-32 W. Court St. on Wednesday. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/05/12/new-apartments-coming-to-court-street.html This is huge as West Court Deli is a source of problems in the area. I'm assuming they will be kicked out as part of the development. I'm really excited for Court St. It's got great character and as more residential rehabs continue, I think it needs a few "destination" restaurants/bars to make it a vibrant area. I'm hoping that the owner of the garage at 20 W Court St (<a href="https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1061832,-84.5149007,3a,75y,345.76h,88.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0oeJBBSMJgTMALD8wHoDNw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656">streetview</a>) will turn it into some kind of bar/restaurant/beer garden. That facade is one of the most interesting, unusual facades in downtown. It has a pitched roof with two large sets of skylights. Would make for a really stunning space. West Court St could be helped a lot by narrowing it to just 1 eastbound lane between Central Ave and Vine. The rest of Court St is just 1 lane in each direction. Narrowing it could allow for some combination of a) increased on-street parking with angled spaces b) larger sidewalks c) street trees (with sufficient space for root growth!) and d) bike lanes. All of those would be beneficial for the businesses and residents of Court St.
May 13, 20169 yr Good news definitely, but the company- Parkes -does not have a history working with urban sites. Maybe they see this as an opportunity to get in the game... Hopefully they do the building well - a lot of potential on Court Street.
May 13, 20169 yr Good news definitely, but the company- Parkes -does not have a history working with urban sites. Maybe they see this as an opportunity to get in the game... Hopefully they do the building well - a lot of potential on Court Street. I think you're confusing projects. <a href="http://www.parkescompanies.com/">Parkes</a> is doing the Tri-State building which is at the corner of Walnut and 5th. Based on their <a href="http://www.parkescompanies.com/portfolio">portfolio</a>, it seems like they do mostly suburban big box stuff. Daffin Investments (a local group) is doing the Court St project. The Courier article said: "Daffin is a former suburban developer who believes the real estate action in Cincinnati is in the urban core to stay."
May 13, 20169 yr $30M luxury apartments planned near Jungle Jim’s Eastgate The new real estate investment firm co-founded by David Birdsall is planning to develop a $30 million luxury apartment development near Jungle Jim’s Eastgate. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/05/13/30m-luxury-apartments-planned-near-jungle-jim-s.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 31, 20169 yr Taft Theatre plans improvements to host symphony The Taft Theatre will undergo $500,000 in upgrades as it prepares to host the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra and Cincinnati Pops from September 2016 through May 2017 during Music Hall’s major renovation. The changes will include two additional Americans with Disabilities Act compliant restrooms off the main lobby, a second set of doors to the inner auditorium, new front entry doors, additional railings, augmented house lighting, a repositioned box office, more signage, new benches in the lobby and a ramp connecting the Taft Theatre to the Masonic Center next door. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/05/31/taft-theatre-plans-improvements-to-host-symphony.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
June 2, 20169 yr Round 16 Ohio Historic Tax Credit applications, winners to be announced before June 30.
June 2, 20169 yr Does anybody know what the "Walnut and Moore" project includes? It includes 7 buildings and is requesting a credit of $803,000, which means the project is probably at least $3m in total costs (since state credits are up to a max of 25% of qualified rehab costs). The buildings around the intersection of Walnut and Moore appear to all be under different ownership, so I'm not sure how they were able to group 7 properties together for the application. Curious to see what comes of this.
June 2, 20169 yr I am also curious what the "George Otte Carpet Store building" is? A Google search turned up this: http://www3.gendisasters.com/ohio/14326/cincinnati-oh-carpet-store-fire-apr-1897 George F. Otte company's carpet store on the south side of Fourth Street, one door west of Race. Which makes me think it's one of these on the south side of Fourth St: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0996514,-84.5147713,3a,90y,175.46h,106.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdTiW3FkvxjzF5ryR6orsDg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
June 2, 20169 yr 121 W Fourth St was - according to the auditor's site - built in 1896. But I bet that's a mistake. Based on the newspaper articles, it seems like the fire in April 1897 was pretty massive: "The entire interior of the Otte building was burned out and the rear wall fell into Baker alley." I'm assuming Baker Alley is what is now called Benham Alley. http://wedge3.hcauditor.org/view/re/1450001026600/2015/summary So, perhaps they rebuilt at that location after the fire of 1897, constructing the beautiful buildings that stand today. Or maybe they moved to a different location in the city, in which case I have no idea (I can't find any other references to the George Otte Carpet Store.
June 2, 20169 yr It is the building at the south east corner of Race and 4th. It has had scaffolding up for the past few months, and has been empty for several years. For those curious I found this out by looking through a few of the old Williams Directories ((available on the Library's website). It appears the carpet wholesaler moved several times. They were first at 109-111 West 4th Street (1900), which would have been the same location as before the fire, so they did rebuild the same location. That's now where the Union Central Tower is, and when that was built it looks like George moved down the street to 129-131 West 4th (1913), where Koch Sporting Goods is now. However, that seemed to be temporary as George had a new building built and opened by 1916 at 29 West 4th Street, now listed as 33 West 4th Street. It seems like that building was purpose built to be the carpet wholesale store.
June 2, 20169 yr Does anybody know what the "Walnut and Moore" project includes? It includes 7 buildings and is requesting a credit of $803,000, which means the project is probably at least $3m in total costs (since state credits are up to a max of 25% of qualified rehab costs). The buildings around the intersection of Walnut and Moore appear to all be under different ownership, so I'm not sure how they were able to group 7 properties together for the application. Curious to see what comes of this. These are all under the control of Urban Sites and 3CDC.
June 2, 20169 yr What is the $2 million request at 12th and Walnut?!?! That's a large request and I can't think of something at that location in need of a major renovation that could be so big. Ideas?
June 2, 20169 yr Does anybody know what the "Walnut and Moore" project includes? It includes 7 buildings and is requesting a credit of $803,000, which means the project is probably at least $3m in total costs (since state credits are up to a max of 25% of qualified rehab costs). The buildings around the intersection of Walnut and Moore appear to all be under different ownership, so I'm not sure how they were able to group 7 properties together for the application. Curious to see what comes of this. These are all under the control of Urban Sites and 3CDC. Neither of them own property at the INTERSECTION of Walnut and Moore (north of Liberty next to the Moerlein Brewery). I'm assuming this is the block BETWEEN Walnut and Moore south of Liberty. Quickly looking at the auditor 3CDC (OTR Holdings) owns: 1512 Moore 1510 Moore 20 E 15th 1445 Walnut 1447 Walnut Urban Sites (BSG2 LLC and Soli Interests LLC) owns: 1508 Moore 24 East 15th 1443 Walnut 1435 Walnut 19 W 15th 25 W 15th
June 3, 20169 yr The <a href="https://www.google.com/maps/@39.114588,-84.4870184,3a,75y,261.56h,81.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5rkdcOvpviHd69Y8n7Zklw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656">old fire station</a> (I think that's what it was last used for) on Riverside has been torn down. The land is owned by the City. I wonder if they're preparing it to sell. You could get about 350' wide 150' deep parcel (roughly the footprint of the SkyHouse tower), which could support more townhouses or a condo tower with excellent views. The townhouses further west on Riverside (Twain's Point) have been popular, selling in the $700k+ range. It would require excavating the hillside and building a retaining wall, but that cost could be recovered pretty easily at that price point.
June 3, 20169 yr No way was that big enough for a fire station. The garage doors are way too small. https://goo.gl/maps/tQSiHDsXJUp Not sure what it was though, maybe some sort of maintenance facility with offices? I'd worry about hillside stability issues for any redevelopment, that whole hillside is a mess.
June 3, 20169 yr More interested in what happened with the grave that was next to the building as the headstone is gone now.
June 3, 20169 yr No way was that big enough for a fire station. The garage doors are way too small. https://goo.gl/maps/tQSiHDsXJUp Not sure what it was though, maybe some sort of maintenance facility with offices? I'd worry about hillside stability issues for any redevelopment, that whole hillside is a mess. Good point about the garage doors. I wonder if it was just a service/mechanic facility for the city. I thought I remember seeing some sign about the Fire Department, but maybe I'm mis-remembering. I agree the site poses challenges, but still seems buildable. The topography is pretty similar to the Adam's Place tower, which is roughly 150' deep, and an elevation change of 30-40' from front to back of the property. It definitely could support townhouses with a reasonably small retaining wall if you don't use the full 150' depth of the property.
June 3, 20169 yr More interested in what happened with the grave that was next to the building as the headstone is gone now. Might have been a memorial, perhaps to somebody who died in a car accident near there. I doubt it was a grave.
June 3, 20169 yr No way was that big enough for a fire station. The garage doors are way too small. https://goo.gl/maps/tQSiHDsXJUp Not sure what it was though, maybe some sort of maintenance facility with offices? I'd worry about hillside stability issues for any redevelopment, that whole hillside is a mess. Good point about the garage doors. I wonder if it was just a service/mechanic facility for the city. I thought I remember seeing some sign about the Fire Department, but maybe I'm mis-remembering. I agree the site poses challenges, but still seems buildable. The topography is pretty similar to the Adam's Place tower, which is roughly 150' deep, and an elevation change of 30-40' from front to back of the property. It definitely could support townhouses with a reasonably small retaining wall if you don't use the full 150' depth of the property. Yep. It seems most of the instability on this slope is above Columbia. You can see the slippage from Google Earth and none of it is below Columbia.
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