June 26, 20186 yr ^^the thing is thats not a secure location around City Hall at night because there is so little activity. Any plaza they put there is going to draw drug activity and be a burden to program and activate. It’s completely desolate over there. www.cincinnatiideas.com
June 26, 20186 yr I hate to say this but Otto Budig sits on the board of CPR. What Otto Budig says most likely happens. Its very rare any local politician go against his plan or wishes. I have seen this numerous times now. Notice how Cranley has gone quiet on the issue. I am sure Otto called his office and he backed down.
June 26, 20186 yr ^^the thing is thats not a secure location around City Hall at night because there is so little activity. Any plaza they put there is going to draw drug activity and be a burden to program and activate. It’s completely desolate over there. It's lazily designed. Looks like they ripped off the one in front of the Public Library. We all know how great that one is... “All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.” -Friedrich Nietzsche
June 26, 20186 yr So they’re pointing to a newly renovated office building in an attempt to show that the downtown residential market is weak? Don’t they think the developer of the apartments would know a little more about the market than freakin’ NPR?!? How are they not repeating the same mistakes of their current location in the West End with that empty amphitheater they have over there with this project? www.cincinnatiideas.com
June 26, 20186 yr Yeah, it's a major faux pas for him to claim The Strietmann is an apartment building and point to its vacancy as proof that we don't need more apartments downtown ... when that building is actually office space. D'oh! That makes it pretty clear he isn't really aware of the major changes taking place in our city—even just the blocks around their current studio—which is really unfortunate for our city's last remaining public radio organization.
June 26, 20186 yr It’s pretty disappointing that the city is going with the public radio option for this site instead of housing. The response from CPR is a load of BS, too. The most obvious question I have about their response is why the hell do they need to be downtown? They claim their locations are limited by needing a direct line or whatever to their satellite, so does this mean development around this site will need to be limited to not interfere with their signal? Citing the occupancy of a just-opened office building serves what purpose? To 'prove' that residential in the core is overbuilt? How inappropriate for CPR to even comment on that, much less comment in such a wildly incorrect way? And stating that they would be a bad partner in a mixed use development is laughable, again given how many residential units sit above loud or 24 hour users. I think the donors to CPR need to start asking why their donations are being used to pay high land costs in the CBD. Is that the best use of their precious few dollars? And the last little bit about really wanting to stay in the city, but if they don't get their way here, they'll pack up and move to the suburbs is a move right out of the Mike Brown playbook. Oh no, the local public radio station may relocate outside of the city, taking their handful of employees and minimal programming with them! Lol, what a joke. This whole situation reeks of corruption and Cincy’s provincialism. Both this and the concert venue at the Banks have demonstrated that the old Cincinnati mentality is still in full effect. Both times Columbus developers have been gamed by local croneyism. Pathetic. No one should be surprised when out of town developers choose to avoid even trying to work in Cincinnati given how common these little stunts are.
June 26, 20186 yr Stretimann also has very rental high rates, like class-A level, so it's no surprise they're struggling to find tenants.
June 26, 20186 yr ^^the thing is thats not a secure location around City Hall at night because there is so little activity. Any plaza they put there is going to draw drug activity and be a burden to program and activate. It’s completely desolate over there. It's lazily designed. Looks like they ripped off the one in front of the Public Library. We all know how great that one is... WOW, that is REALLY similar! Maybe a bit of the new Otto M Budig theatre mixed in as well with the 'lonely people in the corner window gazing at the street below' aesthetic.
June 26, 20186 yr It’s pretty disappointing that the city is going with the public radio option for this site instead of housing. The response from CPR is a load of BS, too. The most obvious question I have about their response is why the hell do they need to be downtown? They claim their locations are limited by needing a direct line or whatever to their satellite, so does this mean development around this site will need to be limited to not interfere with their signal? Citing the occupancy of a just-opened office building serves what purpose? To 'prove' that residential in the core is overbuilt? How inappropriate for CPR to even comment on that, much less comment in such a wildly incorrect way? And stating that they would be a bad partner in a mixed use development is laughable, again given how many residential units sit above loud or 24 hour users. I think the donors to CPR need to start asking why their donations are being used to pay high land costs in the CBD. Is that the best use of their precious few dollars? And the last little bit about really wanting to stay in the city, but if they don't get their way here, they'll pack up and move to the suburbs is a move right out of the Mike Brown playbook. Oh no, the local public radio station may relocate outside of the city, taking their handful of employees and minimal programming with them! Lol, what a joke. This whole situation reeks of corruption and Cincy’s provincialism. Both this and the concert venue at the Banks have demonstrated that the old Cincinnati mentality is still in full effect. Both times Columbus developers have been gamed by local croneyism. Pathetic. No one should be surprised when out of town developers choose to avoid even trying to work in Cincinnati given how common these little stunts are. In a smart city, the public radio station might choose to anchor an up-and-coming neighborhood like Walnut Hills or Evanston. Surely those communities would benefit from their presence more than downtown, and they'd be closer to I-71 and have the ample parking they seem to be so concerned with.
June 26, 20186 yr ^ Exactly. I said the same thing in a post right after the city announced that they selected the housing developer for the lot and CPR began whining. The city could sell CPR the land for $1 in a more up and coming neighborhood, which would save CPR the $1-2 million (can't remember exactly how much they are planning to spend) on land costs. The last article I read about this said that CPR had enough money to buy the land at this time, but would still need to raise the funds for the actual building. So the render they are floating around is purely fantasy...no design work has gone into this, and they don't even know what their budget for construction will be. And to make matters worse, their fantasy rendering is crap, too! Doesn't it seem odd that CPR would spend so much just on land? Again, why do they need to be downtown? Outside of PBS, which shares space with CPR currently, none of the local media stations are located downtown. In fact, it seems like a poor place to locate such a facility. If you are a public entity that relies on fundraising for the majority of your budget, why the hell would you not locate in a place where costs could be kept as low as possible, at least the up-front development costs? They could have a much bigger impact in Westwood or Walnut Hills or any number of neighborhoods, and their costs would be much lower. Hell, there is plenty of developable land around Xavier; given the roots of WVXU, why not try to locate there? I just don't understand this at all. I also don't understand the point of selecting a winner for an RFP, only to reverse the decision a week or so later. Who does business like that?
June 26, 20186 yr Every development issue in the Cranley era has been ultra-shady. No telling what is going to take the place of the CET studios...no doubt a Cranley donor will be the central figure in whatever it is .
June 28, 20186 yr ^^the thing is thats not a secure location around City Hall at night because there is so little activity. Any plaza they put there is going to draw drug activity and be a burden to program and activate. It’s completely desolate over there. It's lazily designed. Looks like they ripped off the one in front of the Public Library. We all know how great that one is... It appears from the rendering the historic grey 1 story building will be preserved..which I guess is nice? The milhaus proposal was going to demolish that structure. Also, Cincy Public Radio said this design was subject to redesign, doesn't seem like it would be final. Last point, if we are concerned about adding density, there is a nearby lot right next to city on 274 W 9th St. It's a really sizeable lot, and right adjacent to city hall. Why doesn't 3cdc purcahse that parking lot, and build a 12 story residential tower with ground floor retail? I mean, a quick glance on google maps shows that there are plenty of opportunities everywhere in the cbd to add density. Not sure why this project is a do or die for that.
June 28, 20186 yr I think your expectations are a little high when it comes to how many projects 3CDC can do simultaneously. Considering that, according to rumors going around right now, the 4th & Race project had died (again). They are going to have their hands full with Court & Walnut, other Court Street projects, Meiners Flats/Wielert's/OTR Kroger redevelopment, Elm Industries, and the OTR KFC site. There's no way they have the capacity to take on another 12 story tower in the CBD.
June 28, 20186 yr 4th and race is still on 3cdc page? Wonder what happened. I mean I could see 3cdc having there hands full. Is it that hard to get outside investors and developers to build in the urban core.
June 28, 20186 yr 4th and race is still on 3cdc page? Wonder what happened. I mean I could see 3cdc having there hands full. Is it that hard to get outside investors and developers to build in the urban core. They're going to redevelop Fountain Place first while waiting for Sak's to close so they can redevelop 3/4 of the block at once.
June 28, 20186 yr I thought saks wasn’t moving to kenwood...is saks just planning to shut down and leave?
June 28, 20186 yr Saks decided not to move to Kenwood several years ago, but now that the downtown Macy's has closed and Tiffany's will soon be leaving, I expect that Saks will shut down when their lease is up and exit the Cincinnati market altogether. At that point, 3CDC (or some other developer?) would be able to redevelop 3/4 of that block as jmecklenborg[/member] suggested. However, it'll be a little more complicated than that, because the Hyatt has conference rooms above Saks, so they would need to agree to lose their conference rooms (at least temporarily, as they could be incorporated into the new building).
June 28, 20186 yr Louis Vuitton is leaving Saks and moving next to Tiffany's in Kenwood. My guess is Saks just exits the Cincinnati market when they eventually close the downtown location. I doubt the city will give them any more subsidies.
June 30, 20186 yr Silverton sues Cincinnati Public Schools over big development site The village of Silverton is suing Cincinnati Public Schools for at least $1.5 million because the district did not properly clean up the site of a former school that is set to become a major, mixed-use development, the lawsuit alleges. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/06/29/silverton-sues-cincinnati-public-schools-over-big.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
July 9, 20186 yr Is Kroger "cool" enough to pull this off? https://www.chainstoreage.com/news/kroger-partners-with-club-monaco-founder-on-new-apparel-brand/ Even the newest Kroger stores (i.e. CUF) don't necessarily seem design savvy enough to pull off clothing the way Target is able too.
July 9, 20186 yr Is Kroger "cool" enough to pull this off? https://www.chainstoreage.com/news/kroger-partners-with-club-monaco-founder-on-new-apparel-brand/ Even the newest Kroger stores (i.e. CUF) don't necessarily seem design savvy enough to pull off clothing the way Target is able too. Only if the owner of Mariano's is invovled...
July 9, 20186 yr Kroger is rebranding itself into a "tech" company. Kroger 2.0. Then they can rename the area around their HQ, KroBro. “All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.” -Friedrich Nietzsche
July 10, 20186 yr Kroger is rebranding itself into a "tech" company. Kroger 2.0. Then they can rename the area around their HQ, KroBro. No, call it KroHo
July 10, 20186 yr North of Court is NoKro and south of Court is SoKro. A frilly wallpaper border around NoKro and SoKro signage would be RoKroco.
July 10, 20186 yr Krobro lives in SoKro, works at KROGR. “All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.” -Friedrich Nietzsche
July 11, 20186 yr Developers revising $90 million Kenwood project Capital Investment Group, which is planning a $90 million mixed-use development across the street from Kenwood Towne Centre, will be making some revisions to its plan. Sycamore Township Zoning Commission voted against recommending the approval of the Gallery of Kenwood, a mixed-use project that would include apartments, a hotel, commercial space and two parking garages. The zoning commission’s vote is a recommendation to Sycamore Township’s board of trustees, which will have final say. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/07/11/developers-revising-90-million-kenwood-project.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
July 11, 20186 yr Not totally unexpected given the way Ohio's wealthier suburbs have been trying to densify themselves recently. Much better than Oakley Station or even some of that newer Rookwood stuff. “To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”
July 12, 20186 yr Yea I've been thinking for a year or two that kenwood might densify more and more over the next decade or so now that most all of the free space is filled in and that tower is finished.
July 12, 20186 yr All it needs is a BRT route that runs frequently, including nights and weekends, connecting it to the urban core.
July 12, 20186 yr Two more historic Fourth Street buildings up for sale Two downtown Cincinnati buildings along West Fourth Street are being marketed for sale. The Herschede Building, located at 4 W. Fourth St., and the German National Bank Building at 401 Vine St., are both being marketed for sale. The Herschede Building is listed for nearly $1.1 million, while the German National Bank building is listed for $1.75 million. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/07/12/two-more-historic-fourth-street-buildings-up-for.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
July 18, 20186 yr Glad to see that Duke Energy is preemptively upgrading/replacing aging parts of Cincinnati's power grid: That's because Duke Energy Corp. (NYSE: DUK) is in the midst of a long-term initiative to upgrade more than one-fourth of the 420 underground transformers that power the Queen City. The Charlotte, N.C.-based electric power holding giant spent $4.4 million to replace 40 underground transformers last year and plans to invest another $12 million through 2019. If you work downtown, you likely have already noticed Duke crews performing maintenance work this year and the subsequent traffic backups. So far, the company has replaced eight transformers in 2018. Ten more are in progress with another 23 are scheduled for replacement by year's end. [...] "These are transformers that still work, but they’re about 40 to 50 years old," Freedman told me. "They’re reaching the end of their useful lives, and we’re just replacing them proactively to prevent any outages or any dangerous situations."
July 18, 20186 yr Now if they'd just work on burying some of overhead instead of doing nothing. It wouldn't even have to be much, like 1% per year in municipal boundaries. Something. Anything!
August 25, 20186 yr Anderson Township selects developer for park and ride site Anderson Township has selected a developer for a more than 5.5-acre site near Anderson Towne Center. The township selected the proposal submitted by Hills Properties and KZF Design for the redevelopment of Anderson Center Station Park and Ride, located at 7832 Five Mile Road. The proposed development would include 200 luxury apartments and the integration of the current Park and Ride facility into a parking garage with covered parking and an indoor waiting area for Metro users. The total investment for the project is expected to be $40 million. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/08/24/anderson-township-selects-developer-for-park-and.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
August 26, 20186 yr So What is happening at 9th and Elm? Apperantly there will be a hearing for feedback on a new inill development project for the lot adjacent to the historic structure.
August 26, 20186 yr ^^ I saw that same facebook post if that is what you are refering too and even though they say 'lot' it would have to be the open lot as well as the lots the buildings sit on to fit a structure of that size. Based on the render it shows it facing both elm & 9th too so it looks as if they are thinking of a demo and rebuild. Guess we will find out more soon.
August 27, 20186 yr The old radio/TV studio at the corner was just renovated by Kroger for use as a test kitchen and meeting space. I can't imagine they would be proposing to tear it down already but some infill on the rest of the block would be great.
August 27, 20186 yr My thought it is the other side. the weird now boarded up gallery and the former location of Poppies back 10yrs or so ago. https://www.facebook.com/Project9thandElm/
August 27, 20186 yr If they are proposing to tear town this structure, I'm 100% opposed to this project. There are too many parking lots nearby that they could buy if they wanted to build new construction. There is no justification for tearing down the little bit of remaining historic fabric that exists in that part of the CBD.
August 27, 20186 yr Yes, it is that one. Former Home of Izzy Kadetz back in the day. https://wedge.hcauditor.org/ASRIMG/W0002004/W0000545.jpg
August 27, 20186 yr If they are proposing to tear town this structure, I'm 100% opposed to this project. There are too many parking lots nearby that they could buy if they wanted to build new construction. There is no justification for tearing down the little bit of remaining historic fabric that exists in that part of the CBD. I definitely think they ARE planning to demolish that building. The <a href="https://wedge3.hcauditor.org/view/re/077-0001-0055-00/2017/summary">819 Elm parcel</a> is owned by "TWANG LLC", with mailing address at 630 Shepherd Drive which is home to the <a href="http://recgrpltd.com/">Recycling Group</a>. It'd be a sick bit of irony if a "recycling" company tears down those buildings. The proposed building looks like it would add quite a bit of density... but I agree with taestell[/member] that there's no reason to tear down these buildings when there are so many surface parking lots all around this.
August 27, 20186 yr My thought it is the other side. the weird now boarded up gallery and the former location of Poppies back 10yrs or so ago. https://www.facebook.com/Project9thandElm/ From the facebook page "You're Invited! Join us for an adult-only information & feedback session on plans for new construction of the lot on 9th and Elm St. This informal meeting will take place in the existing structure at 819 Elm St. The goal is to inform the community of plans for construction and also gather feedback from attendees" Is there a big problem with people bringing their kids to information and feedback sessions I'm not aware of?
August 27, 20186 yr My thought it is the other side. the weird now boarded up gallery and the former location of Poppies back 10yrs or so ago. https://www.facebook.com/Project9thandElm/ From the facebook page "You're Invited! Join us for an adult-only information & feedback session on plans for new construction of the lot on 9th and Elm St. This informal meeting will take place in the existing structure at 819 Elm St. The goal is to inform the community of plans for construction and also gather feedback from attendees" Is there a big problem with people bringing their kids to information and feedback sessions I'm not aware of? Somewhere in there it said the 'no kids' thing was because the building was rough on the inside and they didnt want anyone hurt.
August 27, 20186 yr ^Because it's an unfinished shell, they don't want kids at the info session: - The existing building offers only electricity and no other amenities (no working restrooms on site) - For safety purposes, children may not attend this session
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