May 10, 20196 yr The "Middle V" doesn't even cross a lot of people's minds since it's not associated with either of the Sides and much of it is away from the core. So you've got all these people totally ignoring the Dales unless they're from Dayton or Columbus or something where the Middle V reminds them more of home.
May 10, 20196 yr 5 minutes ago, Chas Wiederhold said: I wouldn't be so sure about Elmwood Elmwood Place has a better business district and walkable urban form than basically anywhere in the South outside New Orleans. And yet it's overshadowed by 30+ neighborhood business districts throughout Cincinnati. St. Bernard and Dare-I-Say Latonia, KY (the Northside of Kentucky waiting to happen) blow anything in...Nashville. Anyone been to Franklin, TN? Southerners worship the place like it's the end-all-be-all of quaintness. It's like, any of y'all been to an Ohio county seat?
May 10, 20196 yr 21 minutes ago, GCrites80s said: The "Middle V" doesn't even cross a lot of people's minds since it's not associated with either of the Sides and much of it is away from the core. So you've got all these people totally ignoring the Dales unless they're from Dayton or Columbus or something where the Middle V reminds them more of home. I didn't even know that Reading had a thriving "bridal district" or that Sharonville had a downtwon until I randomly decided to take 42 instead of 75 home one time. Golf Manor and the surrounding area is still a huge blank spot on my Cincinnati mental map. “To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”
May 10, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, edale said: @DEPACincy I was thinking of Evanston west of 71, but even the 5 Points/walnut Hills HS area is a pretty far walk to Madison and Woodburn, and quite a lengthy walk to O’Brionville, no? 5 Points is a 10 minute walk to Madison and Woodburn. We looked at a couple houses that were 5 minutes or less to Madison and Woodburn but were technically in Evanston. And a large part of the eastern section of the neighborhood is less than a 10 minute walk to O'bryonville.
May 10, 20196 yr 18 minutes ago, BigDipper 80 said: I didn't even know that Reading had a thriving "bridal district" or that Sharonville had a downtwon until I randomly decided to take 42 instead of 75 home one time. Golf Manor and the surrounding area is still a huge blank spot on my Cincinnati mental map. Yeah, Benson Ave. is an intact business district that blows away anything in the South outside of New Orleans.
May 10, 20196 yr 4 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said: Yeah, Benson Ave. is an intact business district that blows away anything in the South outside of New Orleans. They might as well put a couple pedal wagons up there and add a few "honky-tonks" to compete with Nashville, it's already got the bachelorette crowd built right in. “To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”
May 10, 20196 yr 14 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said: Yeah, Benson Ave. is an intact business district that blows away anything in the South outside of New Orleans. I know this is just hyperbole, but you should visit Savannah, Columbia, Charleston, Asheville, Athens, Oxford, etc. etc. Hell even visit Bardstown or Danville KY. I do really like Latonia, and have a friend who just moved there. It's just really hard to get in and out of. I think the next area to turn the corner is the St. Bernard/ Bond Hill area. I know a couple people who have moved to Bond Hill recently, and the hospital and university expansion is changing Avondale at an alarming rate which will bleed into those neighborhoods.
May 10, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, jmecklenborg said: Yeah, Benson Ave. is an intact business district that blows away anything in the South outside of New Orleans. I live a block off of Wyoming Ave (which turns into Benson when you cross the Mill Creek), that entire road is unique in the best way. 3 business districts (1 in Wyoming, 2 in Lockland, 1 in Reading), 2 lane road the entire way, and survives crossing I-75 twice! Lockland has some work to do on their districts, but the book-ends are great NBDs to walk, bike, or drive through. Edited May 10, 20196 yr by 10albersa
May 10, 20196 yr 56 minutes ago, BigDipper 80 said: They might as well put a couple pedal wagons up there and add a few "honky-tonks" to compete with Nashville, it's already got the bachelorette crowd built right in. Nice. I knew someone who lived on a second-floor apartment on that strip for a few years, and she said it was a "scene" every Saturday there with all of the brides-to-be and their coteries shuffling up and down the strip, credit cards in hand.
May 10, 20196 yr 41 minutes ago, ucgrady said: I know this is just hyperbole, but you should visit Savannah, Columbia, Charleston, Asheville, Athens, Oxford, etc. etc. Hell even visit Bardstown or Danville KY. To be more specific, I should have said areas outside of a downtown. The "neighborhood business district" is something that simply does not exist in the south. Nashville's much-vaunted "12th Ave. South" isn't even as urban as downtown...Sharonville. And that's it. For the whole metro.
May 10, 20196 yr 43 minutes ago, ucgrady said: I think the next area to turn the corner is the St. Bernard/ Bond Hill area. I know a couple people who have moved to Bond Hill recently, and the hospital and university expansion is changing Avondale at an alarming rate which will bleed into those neighborhoods. Yeah I really regret not getting the 2-family I had under contract on the Norwood side of the Bond Hill line back in 2016 for...$63,000. The second you cross Section Rd. into Bond Hill it's like going from Elmwood Place to the nice streets in College Hill. Meanwhile, Deer Park and Silverton prices are getting out-of-control. Nothing is selling for under $150k in those areas anymore.
May 17, 20196 yr $20 million luxury condo community opens in Mariemont The final phase of a 12-year, $100 million investment in the center of Mariemont opened this week. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/05/16/20-million-luxury-condo-community-opens-in.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 17, 20196 yr On 5/10/2019 at 1:27 PM, jmecklenborg said: Elmwood Place has a better business district and walkable urban form than basically anywhere in the South outside New Orleans. And yet it's overshadowed by 30+ neighborhood business districts throughout Cincinnati. Care to elaborate? What part of Elmwood Place do you think has such a great business district?
May 17, 20196 yr I think he mostly means in terms of built form. Vine Street through Elmwood is very impressive. “To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”
May 17, 20196 yr Vine Street Elmwood, Vine Street St. Bernard, Benson Street Reading, Downtown Lockland, Wyomong Avenue Lockland, Wyoming Avenue Wyoming, Monmouth Street Newport, Elm Street Ludlow, Fairfield Avenue Bellevue, even Ft. Thomas Avenue or Glendale's Village Green are all east coast (or Chicagoland) level NBD's or suburban town centers, but they're completely overshadowed by Hyde Park, Oakley, Mt. Lookout, and Clifton/Ludlow. It's another of those embarrassments of riches.
May 17, 20196 yr 4 minutes ago, jjakucyk said: Vine Street Elmwood, Vine Street St. Bernard, Benson Street Reading, Downtown Lockland, Wyomong Avenue Lockland, Wyoming Avenue Wyoming, Monmouth Street Newport, Elm Street Ludlow, Fairfield Avenue Bellevue, even Ft. Thomas Avenue or Glendale's Village Green are all east coast (or Chicagoland) level NBD's or suburban town centers, but they're completely overshadowed by Hyde Park, Oakley, Mt. Lookout, and Clifton/Ludlow. It's another of those embarrassments of riches. Thanks for pulling together my Saturday morning bike ride list for this summer.
May 17, 20196 yr I've biked every single one of those except Glendale (only made it as far up that way as Woodlawn 'cause the roads get pretty ugly, but it is doable). Latonia has a nice NBD too.
May 17, 20196 yr Glendale is pretty great. I've got family there (shout out to my fam who lurks this board) and the bike ride to them takes you through Elmwood Place, St. Bernard, and Wyoming. Bluebird Bakery, some good shops for last minute gifts (if I'm heading to a family party, this comes in handy), Cock & Bull, and a few other places if you go a block into the village. Edited May 17, 20196 yr by Chas Wiederhold
May 17, 20196 yr The area near The Party Source is one of the more obnoxious areas to ride a bike in the metro, especially clipped in to a road bike, and especially headed eastbound. If you're coming back to the city, deflect to the river side of the flood wall at Joe's Crab Shack and then pop back out near NOTL. KY 8 is some of the best biking in the Cincinnati area, either way. From Ludlow west to where it dead ends near the I-275 bridge is a fantastic 40~ mile out-and-back, and you have the option to climb a big hill if you want to. From Bellevue you can head east to West Virginia if you want, and again, the riding is excellent. There are a ton of terrific biking roads in KY, but all of them have big hills (and lots of them) except for KY 8. My favorite 3~ hour ride is south from Cincinnati through Covington and Latonia to Decoursey, then west on 536 on the Ohio River, pass under the AA, and back to town on KY 8. If you are in better shape you can do Decoursey Pike all the way south to Butler or Falmouth. That's a 60 or 80-mile ride. If you come back on KY 8 from Falmouth instead of 27, you're pushing 100 miles. A way tougher 100-mile ride than the Loveland bike trail!
May 17, 20196 yr I really love Glendale. Went to elementary school there and fondly remember walking to 'the square' to get candy and ice cream at the locally owned pharmacy and a little deli called Toad's. Both of which are unfortunately long gone, but the Blue Bird Bakery is still there, and still makes the best scones I've had anywhere haha. The cream cheese scone is particularly crave worthy. They used to have a nice coffee shop there called Kangaroo Coffee, but they closed many years ago, too. I think it's now a hair salon. Glendale and Wyoming are two wonderful communities that fly under the radar for most Cincinnatians.
May 17, 20196 yr Glendale and Wyoming are the closest to Chicago-type railroad suburbs, but their little business districts can't compare to those of Winnetka, Glencoe, Highland Park, or Lake Forest. They all had a burst of development in the 1920s at the height of Tudor revival and city beautiful design, so there's some very picturesque and also relatively dense 2-3 story mixed use development. They're very much like Mariemont in that respect, but Mariemont came much later and was obviously planned in a much different way. https://goo.gl/maps/g8mjnzwN5t2BkrAM9 https://goo.gl/maps/G4zkjy6g2NZokAKC6 https://goo.gl/maps/tfCPRaVnUqoyfNad6 https://goo.gl/maps/adp6EFCKJsWXuCYr9 https://goo.gl/maps/zdDKYojeizpWkHkP8 https://goo.gl/maps/79npiVHemS6FdGV78
May 28, 20196 yr High Grain Brewing Co. just opened their doors this past weekend in Silverton. They took over the Silverton Municipal Building which housed the police department among other things. https://highgrainbrewing.com/
June 3, 20196 yr Was not really sure where to post this. But great news for the area. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/06/03/exclusive-nation-s-largest-engineering-firm-moving.amp.html
June 3, 20196 yr ^ How is that great? They're just moving jobs from Forest Park to Sharonville, while collecting some tax incentives along the way.
June 18, 20195 yr https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/06/17/exclusive-fortune-500-firm-leases-top-7-floors-of.html Not sure where else this should go, but Western and Southern's Eagle Realty branch is moving into 126,000 square feet- in the old Chiquita space- of new offices. This makes me wonder if their plan to build a new tower near Lytle Park has been placed on the back burner, or if they will still demolish the historic Woodward Building which I believe is now vacant. Either way this is good for downtown's office vacancy rate, as that was the largest single block of vacant office space in the city. The article mentions there are only two blocks of 50,000 sqft or more left in downtown; one in 600 Viine and another in First Financial center. I really hope the spec office building at 2nd/Walnut and some other office can start construction as this number keeps coming down.
June 18, 20195 yr 5 hours ago, ucgrady said: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/06/17/exclusive-fortune-500-firm-leases-top-7-floors-of.html Not sure where else this should go, but Western and Southern's Eagle Realty branch is moving into 126,000 square feet- in the old Chiquita space- of new offices. This makes me wonder if their plan to build a new tower near Lytle Park has been placed on the back burner, or if they will still demolish the historic Woodward Building which I believe is now vacant. Either way this is good for downtown's office vacancy rate, as that was the largest single block of vacant office space in the city. The article mentions there are only two blocks of 50,000 sqft or more left in downtown; one in 600 Viine and another in First Financial center. I really hope the spec office building at 2nd/Walnut and some other office can start construction as this number keeps coming down. They have to work somewhere while their office is being torn down and reconstructed... “All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.” -Friedrich Nietzsche
June 18, 20195 yr I rode the new Rabbit Hash Ferry this past weekend. It's FREE this month, courtesy Rising Sun Casino. The boat deposits you right in the casino's parking lot, and it's a little tough to navigate your way out of the complex. It honestly seems like they employed some of those casino design tricks to the ferry slip itself! Also, it appears that you can take your farm tractor on the ferry, if you are so inclined.
June 19, 20195 yr 3 hours ago, jmecklenborg said: I rode the new Rabbit Hash Ferry this past weekend. It's FREE this month, courtesy Rising Sun Casino. The boat deposits you right in the casino's parking lot, and it's a little tough to navigate your way out of the complex. It honestly seems like they employed some of those casino design tricks to the ferry slip itself! Also, it appears that you can take your farm tractor on the ferry, if you are so inclined. Surprised they didn't stick a couple slot machines on the ferry.
June 19, 20195 yr ^You have to wait until the whole ferry is 3 feet into the water before you can play
June 19, 20195 yr 5 hours ago, JYP said: They have to work somewhere while their office is being torn down and reconstructed... They are investing quite a bit of money renovating 6 floors. Would seem like a waste if it was just temporary. I wonder if they are still planning to do there new headquarters.
June 21, 20195 yr Today I saw that the old General Electric employee golf course north of Tri-County Mall is being redeveloped into two huge warehouses/manufacturing facilities. They're so big that I'll try to remember and get a photo of them.
June 25, 20195 yr 67 buildings for sale in Sedamsville: https://www.sibcycline.com/Listing/CIN/1627483/637-Steiner-Sedamsville-OH-45204
June 25, 20195 yr 12 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said: 67 buildings for sale in Sedamsville: https://www.sibcycline.com/Listing/CIN/1627483/637-Steiner-Sedamsville-OH-45204 Wonderful!! I was waiting for this dude to unload these. Hopefully someone finds a way to break them up so the entire neighborhood is no longer at the whim of one weirdo landlord.
June 25, 20195 yr 31 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said: 67 buildings for sale in Sedamsville: https://www.sibcycline.com/Listing/CIN/1627483/637-Steiner-Sedamsville-OH-45204 Wonderful!! I was waiting for this dude to unload these. Hopefully someone finds a way to break them up so the entire neighborhood is no longer at the whim of one weirdo landlord. Edited June 25, 20195 yr by SleepyLeroy Grrr double post
June 25, 20195 yr Let's have us Cincy UO users pool our money and create the urban utopia we always dreamed of! In all seriousness, Sedamsville has this awesome beautiful Appalachian mountain town feel to it, and has good bones as well. With the Ohio River Trail West getting built this summer and next year, this could have a nice multi-modal connection to downtown too.
June 25, 20195 yr A buddy of mine just sent me this taken from the outside of the massive old school up there. It is its own little sleepy river town and just a few miles from the heart of downtown Cincinnati.
June 25, 20195 yr Pretty picture. I have never spent any time in Sedamsville, just looked through it on Google maps. Some nice buildings here and there, but definitely a plethora of vacant lots. Comparing to our other smaller neighborhoods; Pendleton, Mount Adams. Sedamsville is really just 4 long streets. Some cross streets would really help. At 3.5 miles from downtown though, too far to be walkable to anything else. Although as mentioned, it will be bikeable once the trail is built. It is quite picturesque nestled between Mount Echo and Embshoff. Looks like there is a trail up to Embshoff. It certainly looks like it has more potential than South Fairmont, which I always hear talked about, but can't see anything really happening there.
June 25, 20195 yr I think Sedamsville would really benefit from a western off shoot of the Ohio River Trail. It's a treacherous bike ride, the 1.25 miles between it and Lower Price Hill. Also, with very few amenities... I don't know how anyone could live an urban life in that neighborhood; you'd have to drive to anything other than the Family Dollar, plant nursery, and laundromat. I worked for Santa Maria Community Services for a bit and they have a location down there. It feels very isolated from the city. Definitely a holler.
June 25, 20195 yr Sedamsville is like a small version of South Fairmount, upper Northside around Kirby Avenue, and Columbia-Tusculum around Delta and Hoge as far as the terrain and development pattern. Fairbanks Avenue and the one-waying of Delhi Avenue hurt it, though not to the extent of Queen City/Westwood in South Fairmount. Still, it's lacking in critical mass, and River/Fairbanks are not the type of streets to attract any sort of density or fine-grained development. The neighborhood has mostly been ceded to drivers from Delhi just as South Fairmount has been ceded to drivers from From a biking standpoint, Lower Price Hill to Hillside Avenue is a critical missing link. Hillside itself is a great street to ride on, and you have an easy connection to Anderson Ferry which is also fun, but having to ride on River is enough to put the kibosh on most planned rides through the area. The Ohio River Trail West does have a route planned, and they're starting work on part of it, but this one really needs to go all the way through to be of use.
July 9, 20195 yr Colerain Avenue proposals include Northgate Mall redevelopment They better not touch my Cheddar's! The Colerain Township board of trustees has revealed several possible improvements to Colerain Avenue, including redevelopment of Northgate Mall into a mixed-use center. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/07/09/colerain-avenue-proposals-include-northgate-mall.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
July 11, 20195 yr It's amazing that the original Kroger from 1965~ still stands, but has been subdivided into a Japanese restaurant, a Sprint Store, something called "Life Uniform": https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2434138,-84.5969558,3a,36.2y,137.63h,94.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1se3fKlNykA8LQFoaRLuGWyg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 Sooner or later it'll become a Crossroads Church. And given the "street" that runs through the parking lot, the old Kroger likely sits on property that has always been owned by entities other than the mall.
July 17, 20195 yr The Mockbee has been listed for $1.4 million: https://www.sibcycline.com/Listing/CIN/1630290/603-W-McMicken-Ave-Cincinnati-OH-45214
July 17, 20195 yr 7 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said: The Mockbee has been listed for $1.4 million: https://www.sibcycline.com/Listing/CIN/1630290/603-W-McMicken-Ave-Cincinnati-OH-45214 OOh I cant for the interior photos on this. Ive only seen the public areas. I wonder how much Fred sold it all for previous to the current owners? Cant imagine it was in the millions range. Thanks for the heads up.
July 18, 20195 yr 12 hours ago, SleepyLeroy said: OOh I cant for the interior photos on this. Ive only seen the public areas. I wonder how much Fred sold it all for previous to the current owners? Cant imagine it was in the millions range. Thanks for the heads up. The photos are now up. A long time ago I went to a party in "studio 2", which was partially out on the roof accessed through the window seen in "view".
July 18, 20195 yr 35 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said: The photos are now up. A long time ago I went to a party in "studio 2", which was partially out on the roof accessed through the window seen in "view". Those last photos are what i was expecting but are those first ones even from the same building?!? Where are those enclosed porches located? I think someone confused the roll of film (hah film) for Cheviot single family with the Mockbee photos!
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