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I agree with you 100%. But they recently made a purchase which would lead you to believe they are serious about making something happen. Only time will tell.

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found this on my feed today. looks right up Urban Ohios Bailiwick 

Wut?  In the second minute they think they're looking at a roller rink/ice rink? 

14 hours ago, 646empire said:


Developers (even respected ones) say alot of things we all know that, and most of it never comes to fruition lol. Also I first heard about the “JW” idea years ago. They at that time said it was “a few years away” well it’s been a few years….. I’m not saying it’s not going to happen but 2 years is laughable. Also W&S/ Eagle realty has done some wonderful projects but they have a history of being slow movers.

I think they were waiting for the Masons to find a new home. Once the Phoenix sale went through, W&S could move forward with their plans.

Milhaus, Onyx + East to develop 306-unit project at Springdale cinema site

 

An Indianapolis-based development team is pursuing the construction of hundreds of apartments and townhomes on a surface parking lot in Springdale.

 

The project, tentatively called “the Springdale Cinema Apartment Project,” is intended for a 17.8-acre site at the southwest corner of West Crescentville Road and Northwest Boulevard, just north of Showcase Cinema de Lux Springdale 18.

 

The development team is headed by Milhaus, a national multifamily developer that last year completed the $43 million, 216-unit Array Apartments across Springfield Pike. Also on board is Onyx + East, a townhome developer that broke ground in April on 26 townhomes in Evanston.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2024/08/05/milhaus-onyx-east-springdale-cinema-apartments.html

 

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14 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

Milhaus, Onyx + East to develop 306-unit project at Springdale cinema site

 

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I'm excited by the location of the trash enclosure sites!

Village of Evendale plans 22-acre expansion of AeroHub Innovation District

 

The Village of Evendale is proposing to substantially increase the size of its AeroHub Innovation District by acquiring one building and rezoning 22 acres with the eventual goal of incorporating the soon-to-be former Hamilton County Regional Safety Complex – i.e., the gun range for Cincinnati police.

 

The village has been negotiating the purchase of 10385 Spartan Drive since at least May. Evendale Village Council at its June 11 meeting approved an ordinance authorizing a purchase contract with the property’s current owner, WMI Inc.

 

Evendale Mayor Richard Finan told the Business Courier the village will close on the property this week (ending Aug. 10) and that right now, it’s just a matter of getting its ducks in a row. He said the purchase price will be around $1 million.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2024/08/06/evendale-aerohub-innovation-district-add-gun-range.html

 

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Are we sure this isn't a Christmas Tree Farm?

This is right in the big greenspace that the Glenwood Gardens to Sharon Woods trail is supposed to take up. Sure, you can still have the trail go through here, but there might be more resistance to a public access trail if National Defense type contractors are posted up here.

Former Queensgate jail reborn as offices for businesses, entrepreneurs

 

Tony Lipps knows the building where he paints urban scenes from Cincinnati well. He used to be a prison guard there.

 

The former Queensgate Correctional Facility at 516 Linn St. has been reborn as LinnCinnati, office space for small business owners and entrepreneurs looking for affordable space to grow. And with its renovation, the developers and the people working out of the space hope it will help change a neighborhood that the city has not quite known what to do with for decades.

 

“I really liked the vision they had with it,” said Lipps, who had worked out of another studio before moving to Queensgate earlier this year. “I couldn’t believe all the stuff they had done. It’s got the potential to reinvigorate this area.”

 

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NASCAR talking to Cincinnati about a street race.I didn't have that one on the bingo card.The newly formed sports commission work most likely.

 

https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2024/08/25/nascar-san-diego-street-race?publicationSource=sbd

 

 

Sources: NASCAR interested in San Diego for possible future street race, talking to several cities
By Adam Stern

San Diego has emerged as one of the cities where NASCAR is interested in hosting a future street race, according to people familiar with the matter, as the sanctioning body continues to explore the concept across America. The Southeast has long been the bastion for the Daytona Beach-based racing property, but it’s been expanding in recent years to locales that are more downtown or urban with temporary circuits versus the permanent but often far-flung tracks it’s built, owned and competed at for decades. It put together a temporary short track on the L.A. Coliseum’s grass football field and held its first domestic street race around Grant Park in Chicago. NASCAR hosted officials from other interested cities around the U.S. at the second edition of the Chicago street race last month, SBJ understands. Now, two sources have named San Diego as one of the cities that NASCAR is most keen on another future street race, though SBJ could not establish the specific location.

A source who has spoken with a senior NASCAR executive on the topic confirmed that NASCAR is exploring sites in Southern California. The Sports San Diego commission and the San Diego Mayor’s office both did not respond to requests for comment, while NASCAR declined comment. Meanwhile, NASCAR is said to have spoken to groups in other cities including Cincinnati, Baltimore, Pittsburgh and some from the Pacific Northwest. Amazon, one of NASCAR’s new media rights partners, is based in Seattle, but it was unclear where the city stacks up versus possible efforts in Denver or Portland. NASCAR already races with its lower levels at the permanent Portland Raceway road course, but there’s questions about whether the facility meets Cup Series standards. NASCAR also has talked with the Dodgers about holding an event with Formula E in the Dodger Stadium parking lots, according to an SBJ report and a subsequent public confirmation by NASCAR President Steve Phelps.

NASCAR has one more year left on its contract to race in Chicago. The deal contains options for possible additional years, but NASCAR could elect to move on after 2025 and try the street racing concept in a different city. NASCAR has not turned a profit on the Chicago street race in either year, and its leadership could eventually become less confident on the idea if it can’t narrow the gap. It spent $50M on the inaugural edition in 2023. Still, NASCAR believes the Chicago race has had important residual effects for the sport by freshening up its brand at a time when it was trying to secure billion-dollar TV deals, so much so that it could be prepared to absorb losses on the street racing concept for several years to come. It was unclear whether NASCAR could be open to doing two street races a year if it continued with Chicago and found a suitable deal elsewhere. NASCAR has not yet released its 2025 schedule but the full reveal could come in the next couple weeks.

NASCAR also explored buying a stake in the Long Beach Grand Prix, according to a report from Racer magazine in March, but was not successful. That NASCAR has explored bids in L.A., Long Beach and now San Diego points to how the racing series is looking for its next place to compete in California after selling off the majority of Auto Club Speedway in Fontana for $544M last year.
 

 

 

20 minutes ago, ucnum1 said:


NASCAR talking to Cincinnati about a street race.I didn't have that one on the bingo card.The newly formed sports commission work most likely.

 

 

 

 

NASCAR is doing this to answer to F-1's street races.  It would be awesome. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Especially considering that NASCAR no longer races at Kentucky Speedway. I would watch a road race. Watching four hours of people driving around an oval... not so much.

Don't expect it to make money. Very few street races do. Governments have to open their wallets big time.

Perfectly good try-oval in Sparta that sits mothballed. 

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3 hours ago, GCrites said:

Don't expect it to make money. Very few street races do. Governments have to open their wallets big time.

And it would be hard to measure how much indirect spending would occur. I would imagine with all of the road closures and public safety needs that it could be a fiscal nightmare, but I don't know about such things.

4 hours ago, buildingcincinnati said:

Especially considering that NASCAR no longer races at Kentucky Speedway. I would watch a road race. Watching four hours of people driving around an oval... not so much.

275 loop? 

3 hours ago, GCrites said:

Don't expect it to make money. Very few street races do. Governments have to open their wallets big time.


 The Cincy Metro area would eat this kind of event up, def potential to be a money maker

I went to my first NASCAR race last weekend at the Coke Zero 400 in Daytona and had a great time. I heard that some races are more exciting than others based on the track, and Daytona is one of the better venues. I went in knowing nothing about NASCAR, but had a great time.

 

I'm sure a street race would be a very different experience. Not sure if I would enjoy that as much as a race at Daytona, but at this point I'd be willing to try it out.

Run the course next to the Justice Center so that the inmates have something to watch. 

11 hours ago, ryanlammi said:

I went to my first NASCAR race last weekend at the Coke Zero 400 in Daytona and had a great time. I heard that some races are more exciting than others based on the track, and Daytona is one of the better venues. I went in knowing nothing about NASCAR, but had a great time.

 

I'm sure a street race would be a very different experience. Not sure if I would enjoy that as much as a race at Daytona, but at this point I'd be willing to try it out.

NASCAR is like that...very exciting in person, but on TV? Nah.

Yeah this shouldn't happen. That's not worth all the headache to residents with road closures etc IMO unless there is direct proof from the Chicago one that local business saw a huge benefit.

I don't think hassle should be a reason to not have a huge event like this come to the city. I think it would be great exposure. Especially showing street level Cincinnati on national TV.

I know nothing about these kinds of events, but if the route was a few miles long and could use the hills, go past some historic buildings and cross a bridge or two to create a really unique course and highlight to viewers  that Cincinnati isn't in fact, located in a cornfield, I think it would be worth it. 

The Chicago route was about 2.2 miles, and was centered around Grant Park. I imagine a similar street race in Cincinnati would follow some combination of Mehring Way and 2nd or 3rd to loop around the stadiums with good drone shots of downtown and the ability to put stands on the wider streets along the route. The bridges would also be cool spots to watch from and create a cool atmosphere.

 

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That would be pretty cool along the riverfront but there is a lot of ugly underpasses and parking garage areas along that route too. You could go from the front of the casino up Mt Adams and back down around Columbia Parkway and past P&G in about 2.8 mile loop but that might be too big, or too dangerous

In Cincinnati the track wouldn't have to be a bunch of boring 90 degree turns like a lot of street courses end up being -- including Chicago. 

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Construction of the new parking lot at the former Greyhound station is well underway with some major digging occurring there. I saw a very large tank on the site but was unsure whether it was an old diesel fuel tank that had been dug out of the ground, or some kind of stormwater runoff storage tank that they were installing underneath the new parking lot.

8 hours ago, taestell said:

Construction of the new parking lot at the former Greyhound station is well underway with some major digging occurring there. I saw a very large tank on the site but was unsure whether it was an old diesel fuel tank that had been dug out of the ground, or some kind of stormwater runoff storage tank that they were installing underneath the new parking lot.

Are they not building the Hard Rock hotel there? Thought I had read that somewhere 

2 hours ago, cblhaus said:

Are they not building the Hard Rock hotel there? Thought I had read that somewhere 

It's rumor. If anything the Chavez family is making the lot more expensive, putting a parking lot to make "money", for Hard Rock to buy if they want later down the road...

28 minutes ago, savadams13 said:

It's rumor. If anything the Chavez family is making the lot more expensive, putting a parking lot to make "money", for Hard Rock to buy if they want later down the road...


From what I understand the greyhound site is not the hotel site. The hotel site would be on the side near the employee entrance. Putting the hotel at the greyhound site on the back side of the garage along the expressway would be odd. Also I would have to look closer but if the hotel is on the Chavez lot it wouldn’t be seamlessly connected the casino either, guests would have to walk outside or thru the casino garage which would be a silly design.

13 hours ago, 646empire said:


From what I understand the greyhound site is not the hotel site. The hotel site would be on the side near the employee entrance. Putting the hotel at the greyhound site on the back side of the garage along the expressway would be odd. Also I would have to look closer but if the hotel is on the Chavez lot it wouldn’t be seamlessly connected the casino either, guests would have to walk outside or thru the casino garage which would be a silly design.

Gotcha that makes sense. From what I’ve read it seems like the hotel is an eventuality but there have not been concrete plans on the timing of it.

On 9/9/2024 at 11:59 AM, taestell said:

Construction of the new parking lot at the former Greyhound station is well underway with some major digging occurring there. I saw a very large tank on the site but was unsure whether it was an old diesel fuel tank that had been dug out of the ground, or some kind of stormwater runoff storage tank that they were installing underneath the new parking lot.

I thought new parking lots were banned downtown?  How did they get approval to do this? 

It also seems like a parking lot at that location isn't really going to make money. It's right next to a casino parking garage which is totally free. The casino has threatened multiple times over the years to start charging for parking but has not followed through. I know people that come downtown and park in the casino garage, walk through the casino, and out the front entrance into Pendleton/OTR.

 

If the casino doesn't buy that lot and incorporate it into their hotel, I'm not sure what will ever happen to it. I can't imagine a developer building apartments or some mixed-used pedestrian-oriented development at that location, which is fairly isolated from the rest of downtown. It could've been a great location for a new theatre/indoor music venue attached to the casino and hotel, if we didn't just have two other ones built in the last 5 years.

Chavez Properties uses parking revenue to subsidize their actual business: land speculation

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Since 2020, Cincinnati has actually produced enough housing to keep up with population growth, but multi-family has slowed considerably and demand is going to overtake supply if more multi-family doesn't come online. 

 

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On 8/28/2024 at 12:04 PM, ryanlammi said:

The Chicago route was about 2.2 miles, and was centered around Grant Park. I imagine a similar street race in Cincinnati would follow some combination of Mehring Way and 2nd or 3rd to loop around the stadiums with good drone shots of downtown and the ability to put stands on the wider streets along the route. The bridges would also be cool spots to watch from and create a cool atmosphere.

 

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Do it here, it's already set up to be a race course. 

 

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Linncinnati is renting studio spaces for as cheap as $350...which is amazingly cheap.  It seems like no bands are allowed due to the lack of soundproofing. 

https://www.linncinnati.com/explore-linncinnati

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Dial Residential completes high-end East Side apartments

 

The second project from an upstart Cincinnati development firm has finished construction and is fully leased in Columbia Township.

 

Dial Residential, co-founded by brothers Christian and Taylor Dial, put the finishing touches on Tributary 50, at 4040 Walton Creek Road just off U.S. Route 50, in September.

 

The 27-unit project boasts 27 floor plans, a mix of one-, two- and three-bedrooms as well as six two-story townhomes. Seventeen units have direct-access garages.

 

The units start at around 900 square feet and top out at 1,800 square feet. Rents range from $1,650 up to $3,700.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2024/10/01/dial-luxury-apartments-columbia-township-mariemont.html

 

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Ironically, I rode by that yesterday not knowing that article dropped. They put small lights on the retaining wall illuminating the parking spots

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Very uncommon to see a project like this; 27 different floor plans! Super intrigued, and glad to see something like it being built.

21 hours ago, Chas Wiederhold said:

Very uncommon to see a project like this; 27 different floor plans! Super intrigued, and glad to see something like it being built.

They're a great company and I can't wait to see their more urban projects in O'Bryonville and Walnut Hills come to fruition.

223 W Fourth Street looks to be getting a new life.Handsome 5 story building 25k square feet.HCB packet 

 

MBER: COA2024044  
 SUBJECT PROPERTY: 223 W 4TH ST 
 BOARD HEARING: HISTORIC CONSERVATION BOARD 
 HEARING DATE: 11-18-2024   at   3:00 PM 
 HEARING LOCATION: Centennial II Building, Room 508, 805 Central Avenue, Cincinnati, Ohio 45202 
 PRE HEARING DATE: 10-30-2024   at   9:30am 
 PRE HEARING LOCATION:The pre-hearing conference will be conducted through a virtual platform at  
https://cincinnati-oh.gov/planning/prehearing. No registration is required for the  
 pre-hearing. 
 APPLICANT: NEW REPUBLIC ARCHITECTURE 
 REFERENCE REQUEST: 
 The applicant requests a Certificate of Appropriateness for the alteration of a building into multi-family housing for senior citizens,  
 including 27 new dwelling units, storefront replacement and new windows in the West Fourth Street Historic District.  
 Additionally, the applicant is requesting a special exception for commercial continuity with no commercial spac

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Cincinnati's six most expensive apartments concentrated in walkable, urban areas

By Brian Planalp – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier

Oct 24, 2024

 

Greater Cincinnati has added some extremely high-end apartments in recent years, reflecting a change in attitudes about renting as much as run-of-the-mill rent inflation.

 

Three of the six most expensive apartments – i.e., leasable units in a multifamily structure – are in downtown Cincinnati. Perhaps unsurprisingly, all six on the list below are located in walkable neighborhoods, where the dense surrounding environment is an amenity unto itself.

 

Not all the communities below will break the bank. In some, such as the Mercantile Apartments, penthouses run at eye-watering premiums, but the rest of the units are priced to attract average renters.

 

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New restaurant coming to the former Cincy Shirts space on Main. Not sure of the operator or concept.

 

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New project from today's HCB packet.630 Main Street conversion to 71 apartments looks to be a 68k square foot building at 4 stories tall. 

 

 

https://www.cbre.com/properties/properties-for-lease/office/details/US-SMPL-67550/630-main-630-main-street-cincinnati-oh-45202


REFERENCE REQUEST: 
12-16-2024   at   3:00 PM 
The applicant is requesting a Certificate of Appropriateness to convert an existing structure into 71 housing units within the Main Street Historic 
District. The project includes façade improvements, window replacements, new door openings, exterior signage, and the construction of a wall/fence. 
Additionally, the applicant seeks zoning relief concerning the height of the sign, the transparency of the wall/fence, and a special exception for 
commercial continuity. 
630  MAIN ST 
Centennial II Building, Room 508, 805 Central Avenue, Cincinnati, Ohio 45202 
COA2024052  
BOARD HEARING: HISTORIC CONSERVATION BOARD 
PRE HEARING LOCATION: 
PRE HEARING DATE: 11-27-2024   at   10:30am 
APPLICANT: NEWREPUBLIC ARCHITECTURE 
The pre-hearing conference will be conducted through a virtual platform at 
https://cincinnati-oh.gov/planning/prehearing. No registration is required for the 
pre-hearing. 

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The 9 projects in the TMUD

  • TQL- Two 13 story blgs, 167 residential units 188 unit hotel + entertainment venue
  • Atrium One -  246 residential apartments
  • First National Bank Building 280 room hotel + 16 residential units
  • Terrace Plaza Hotel - 180 apartments + retail + restaurant
  • Liberty Center Apartments (Liberty Township) - 264 apartments
  • Schuler & Benninghoften Woolen Mill (Hamilton, OH) 125 apartments, 10,000 SF commercial space
  • Factory 52 Phase Two (Norwood)
  • Gallery at Kenwood - 10-story, 129-unit apartment building + office + retail
  • The Blue (Blue Ash) 248 apartments + office + retail

FCC applied for $26 million on their new mixed use $332.8 million development.

Birkla applied for $8 million on their $101 million redevelopment of the former Terrace Plaza hotel. 

NewcrestImage applied for $9.5 million on their $174.7 million redevelopment of the former First National Bank building. 

Acabay applied for $5.3 million for their new $71.2 million partial redevelopment of the Atrium 1 building downtown. 

Circle Development applied for $1.5 million on their $129.7 million development in Blue Ash called the Blue

CIG Communities applied for $5.5 million for the last phase of its Gallery at Kenwood development.

PLK Communities applied for $13.4 million for its $134 million second phase of the Factory 52 development in Norwood.

Liberty Center LLC applied for $7.6 million for the $76.6 million second phase of its Liberty Center development. 

Bloomfield/Schon applied for $2.5 million for the $28.5 million redevelopment of the Schuler & Benninghoften Woolen Mill in Hamilton. 

 

I hope FCC wins the most as it's by far the biggest development.  After that I hope the downtown ones win over the suburbs. 

 

Isn't it early next year when the winners will be announced? 

 

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