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I find it humorous that the landlord wants to decrease the CAC space presumably to increase office space for lease.  The funny part is that businesses are moving out of there because they place is so out dated.  My friend's father's law firm had their offices there and they moved out because the owner put no money into the place it seemed.  Especially after the fire which the entire building smelled of smoke for months.  Just doesn't seem like with all the available space that CAC space is going to be the hot spot to move to.

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I find it humorous that the landlord wants to decrease the CAC space presumably to increase office space for lease.  The funny part is that businesses are moving out of there because they place is so out dated.  My friend's father's law firm had their offices there and they moved out because the owner put no money into the place it seemed.  Especially after the fire which the entire building smelled of smoke for months.  Just doesn't seem like with all the available space that CAC space is going to be the hot spot to move to.

 

from the outside it looks like very crappy Class B Space.

I believe the fire and other construction woes were under the previous landlord. I'm assuming that along with an increased rent the new landlord(s) would agree to update things considerably. Otherwise, yes, it would be insanity to expect higher rent.

Cleveland Athletic Club faces financial crisis

Posted by Leah Boyd

July 11, 2007 21:00PM

 

The Cleveland Athletic Club will struggle to reach its 100th anniversary next year.

 

Officials from the club, which is an institution on Euclid Avenue, estimate that it will run out of money next month. Board members discussed the financial crisis and its $750,000 debt Monday at the annual membership meeting.

 

More at: http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2007/07/cleveland_athletic_club_faces.html

"The club has been an important part of Cleveland history," said member Klarc Snowden. "If it were allowed to just go away, I think that would speak very poorly for the city."

 

It may also speak poorly of your organization's ability to adapt to changing tastes among your potential clients, Mr. Snowden.  We can't blame everything on Cleveland.

I think the members are upset because they feel the Euclid Corridor project is killing them.  They have lost 206 (around 30%) of their members in 6 months!  That's not because of the facility itself, but the fact that it's currently extremely difficult to get to the place and the street lights are out on that section of Euclid at night.

I think the members are upset because they feel the Euclid Corridor project is killing them.  They have lost 206 (around 30%) of their members in 6 months!  That's not because of the facility itself, but the fact that it's currently extremely difficult to get to the place and the street lights are out on that section of Euclid at night.

 

I dunno, have you been inside the place recently? It really is a .........hole

I'm not saying that ECP hasn't affected them at all, but I have to agree with X. The people who want to belong to some sort of exclusive business/fitness "country club in the city" so they can hobnob are probably going to go to the Union Club or the Club at Key Center. The people who simply want a decent place to work out probably wouldn't be willing to fork out the kind of money that CAC wants. They're caught in the middle of a business that's somewhat polarized.

I think the members are upset because they feel the Euclid Corridor project is killing them.  They have lost 206 (around 30%) of their members in 6 months!  That's not because of the facility itself, but the fact that it's currently extremely difficult to get to the place and the street lights are out on that section of Euclid at night.

 

I dunno, have you been inside the place recently? It really is a .........hole

 

I have been on the 7th, 8th, and 15th (Sterling Room, conference rooms, bowling) floors a few times in the past few months, and the place is hardly a hole (the Sterling Room especially).  I can see your point, however, MayDay.

Again, I think this is a case where ECP is getting a bad rap. The place was on the skids well before it started along this stretch.

The drop in membership really isn't due to construction, although it certainly didn't help. In January, management imposed an assessment of over $300 on each member. People left in droves after that.

Forgive me if this had been addressed but is the  United Way next to Idea Center only undergoing a restoration?  I know by the looks of the outside it's quite obvious but I just wanted to make sure.

I'm not saying that ECP hasn't affected them at all, but I have to agree with X. The people who want to belong to some sort of exclusive business/fitness "country club in the city" so they can hobnob are probably going to go to the Union Club or the Club at Key Center. The people who simply want a decent place to work out probably wouldn't be willing to fork out the kind of money that CAC wants. They're caught in the middle of a business that's somewhat polarized.

 

Speaking of those other clubs, how are they faring?  Do the Union Club and/or Club at Key have any chance of meeting the same fate as the CAC, or are they much more stable clubs?

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New coffee shop coming to the space the turkish shop used to be.

 

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YESSSS!  :clap:

YESSSS!  :clap:

 

Stop the addiction MTS!!! :-D

 

Good news about the coffe shop.

Stop the addiction MTS!!! :-D

 

I am not a quitter!  You whippersnapper!

Location?

Their website says they will brew Intelligencia coffee from Chicago.  Its good stuff

good lord you whippersnappers!  Are you to lazy to look at the website?

 

www.mokocoffee.com

The Bulkley Building 1505 Euclid Ave Cleveland, OH 44115

 

You should know by now MTS, yes, yes I am too lazy.. ha

Location?

 

Um, well... this IS the Euclid Avenue revival thread... AND the address is on the door in the picture. :-D

The door is cut off on my browser.

I bet you say that to all the forumers

Har har har.. Oh musky.. you slay me..  :-P

  • 2 weeks later...

anyone know which pizza chain is going in on euclid in the hannah bldg across from the playhouse? 

I'll check it out this afternoon. I will be in the Hannah for a meeting.

anyone know which pizza chain is going in on euclid in the hannah bldg across from the playhouse? 

 

why do you say 'pizza'?  i heard that an upscale restaurant was going into the Hanna.

I really like that Moko has a list of other locally-owned coffee shops. While not an exhaustive list by any stretch of the imagination, it is nice to see them championing other "little guys".

I was over there a little while ago and couldn't see what was going in to the Hanna building.  But it looks like it will take up a good portion of the North facade. 

 

Bad news- the Euclid Ave Firstmerit branch is closing, and will consolidate with the Prospect Branch.  It may reopen at that location further down the road, though.

I remember reading a while back (Crain's?) that a Molly Branigan's Irish Pub was locating in Playhouse Square. I've been to the MB's in Erie, Pa and was intrigued to see them coming to Cleveland. The guy who owns the Erie location is a native of Ireland and did an awesome job restoring an old storefront in downtown Erie into an authentic-looking (lots of wood) Irish pub/eatery. Anyone hear anything regarding this development? I think it would be a great addition to Playhouse Square.

Thats too bad about the First Merit branch, that means 3 bank branches have closed on Euclid in the past 3 months. I have a feeling that Dollar Bank is next since the building is for sale and they are opeing a highly visible branch in the Galleria.

 

As for the pub, I would assume that project is dead. There hasn't been any work on it for quite some time and an "available" sign was placed on the building a couple of weeks ago.

I walked by there tonight (as promised). Whatever is going on there, I'm sure its not a pizza joint. It looks like it will be fairly large. I asked a couple of people at the Cleveland Foundation and they did not know either.

I found this in the Cleveland Restaurant thread. It's from Scene.

 

 

It will be good to see the house lights back on in the former Gene Hickerson’s restaurant in the Hanna Building this November, when restaurateur David Glenny launches an outpost of his Akron showpiece, Bricco, on Playhouse Square.

 

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I was wondering what was going on in that space!  Sounds tastey!

My waitress at otto moser's said it was a pizza place and she thought it was a national place.  She got the pizza part right.  Good news either way. 

Akron + Cleveland doesn't = national?

Akron + Cleveland = Cleveland+

 

:)

  • 4 weeks later...

^ That's fantastic. I've read so much negative about this project, it's great to read something positive. I truly believe this can be a catalyst for the midtown region if we can stop P&M'ing about it.

hey jmc my grandmother used to meet a group of friends twice a year at 'the alpine village.' this was in the 30's-40's i think, and maybe earlier. i have some large size annual pics of the group of them in there -- i may scan and put'em up someday.

 

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On the same tone as Lee Chilcote's article in CoolCleveland...keep in mind that Priemer's got projects at several places along the corridor:

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/architecture/2007/10/_skeptics_love_to_dump.html

 

Collegetown developer says Euclid Corridor is triggering private investment

Posted by Plain Dealer Architecture Critic Steven Litt October 01, 2007 12:26PM

Categories: Architecture

 

Skeptics love to dump on the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority's Euclid Corridor project. They hate the orange traffic cones, the excavations, the traffic disruptions. They think the project is a waste of money, a boondoggle.

 

Cleveland developer Gordon Priemer, president of Heartland Development, isn't one of them. He said today that the RTA project is one of the major reasons he has joined with the Frangos Group and BPC Redevelopment to launch a new "collegetown" development on Euclid Avenue, opposite Cleveland State University.

 

Mann to add to Euclid Ave. stable

Enigmatic developer’s expected deal for Statler Arms on heels of Cleveland Athletic Club buy

By STAN BULLARD

4:30 am, October 8, 2007

 

Mystery real estate developer Eli Mann is the leading bidder to buy the 294-suite Statler Arms Apartments at 1127 Euclid Ave. in downtown Cleveland.

 

Sources familiar with the deal expect Mr. Mann, of Cleveland Heights, to close on the property soon.

 

More at:

http://www.crainscleveland.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071008/SUB1/71005041/1004&Profile=1004

Interesting, JAX, whats the word in the (Statler) building?  I thought Coral owned the statler as they rent units on their site.  Or is it they are just the building manager/leasing agent?

^Coral is the management company, not the owner. They are also managing 1900 Euclid (loft apts across from CSU).

If someone were to redevelop everything between the Huntington Building and Statler and everything from the Ameritrust Rotunda to the CAC as one development, that becomes a heck of a project.  Didn't they do something similar to that along Woodward in Detroit?

Interesting, JAX, whats the word in the (Statler) building?  I thought Coral owned the statler as they rent units on their site.  Or is it they are just the building manager/leasing agent?

 

The word has been that they've dramatically lowered their tenant qualifications to quickly boost occupancy in a bid to sell the building off yet again.  I've seen some first hand evidence to back this up, unfortunately, and probably won't be sticking around much longer unless they clean it up. I have to say, though, the idea of one owner for the whole block sure sounds promising.

Interesting, JAX, whats the word in the (Statler) building?  I thought Coral owned the Statler as they rent units on their site.  Or is it they are just the building manager/leasing agent?

 

The word has been that they've dramatically lowered their tenant qualifications to quickly boost occupancy in a bid to sell the building off yet again.  I've seen some first hand evidence to back this up, unfortunately, and probably won't be sticking around much longer unless they clean it up. I have to say, though, the idea of one owner for the whole block sure sounds promising.

 

Details?  I'm sorry to hear this as I know you are very happy with and have spoken highly of your apartment building.  Many of those units are very nice.

 

I hope you and your neighbors can work things out so that all the tenants in the building cohabit peacefully.

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