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Oh, just a lot more college kids which inevitably leads to more parties and junk in the hallways which isn't that horrible. Unfortunately it seems like some real punks have snuck in with the influx. There's been some car break ins in the garage (I was a victim, they stole my favorite Philip Glass CD damn them). Somebody ripped an electrical panel out of an elevator, smashed a mirror on my floor and other petty vandalism antics. Also one of the security guards was telling me that somebody has been throwing rocks off the roof for fun. Heads up!

 

I guess nothing that bad, but it's all appeared within the last 3 months.

 

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Yeah, you need to get those college kids in check. 

 

And employee the one throwing rocks, he apparently wants to help move the Euclid Corridor Transportation Project, we should give him a gold star!  Sheeesh!  What ever happened to bleach in water ballons?

If someone were to redevelop everything between the Huntington Building and Statler and everything from the Ameritrust Rotunda to the CAC as one development, that becomes a heck of a project. Didn't they do something similar to that along Woodward in Detroit?

 

 

http://www.loftsofmerchantsrow.com/

 

took like 7 properties along a block, i think....

I was a victim, they stole my favorite Philip Glass CD damn them.

 

I can just see the fence's face when the perp handed him this CD to sell...

 

Wow, interesting stuff on Euclid- it sure would be a lot easier to build critical mass if all these buildings are under common control.  My fingers are crossed this turns into something big.

^Coral is the management company, not the owner. They are also managing 1900 Euclid (loft apts across from CSU).

 

Not for much longer.

Heartland is trying to take over.

http://crainscleveland.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071015/FREE/71012033&template=printart

 

K&D may take on rehab of 668 Euclid

 

By STAN BULLARD

 

4:30 am, October 15, 2007

 

K&D Group of Willoughby is considering another big deal downtown.

 

Sources say the developer of the Stonebridge residential and office complex in the Flats and owner of the Reserve Square apartment-hotel complex downtown is the top bidder for the massive, dilapidated Atrium Office Plaza, 668 Euclid Ave.

cleveland.com:

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2007/10/jewish_community_federation_po.html

 

Jewish Community Federation ponders move

Posted by Robert L. Smith October 17, 2007 14:33PM

Categories: Breaking News

 

The Jewish Community Federation of Cleveland, the flagship of the region's Jewish community, is looking for a new headquarters and that could mean leaving the city for the suburbs.

 

The federation is just beginning to examine its building needs so it is too soon to say where it will plant the flag, said Harley Gross, chairman of the federation's board of trustees. But the prospect of the JCF, as it's widely known, moving from downtown to Beachwood is generating discussion and angst in the Jewish community.

Knowing Stark, he'll try and get them into his Solon project (think Beck Center).

Glenville, Mount Pleasant, Buckeye, Fairfax and East Cleveland were all heavily Jewish neighborhoods and communities until the 1960s.

 

The article says "Such a move would leave Cleveland without a major, full-time Jewish institution for the first time in more than 100 years." I don't understand that. Doesn't the Temple-Tifereth Israel in University Circle still host some activities?

 

http://www.clevelandjewishhistory.net/silver/images/tifereth-israel-cleveland.jpg

 

That photo came from an interesting article posted at: http://www.clevelandjewishhistory.net/silver/temple.html But the article isn't clear as to whether the Temple-Tifereth Israel in UC is vacated.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

It would be nice to have the Eastside Jewish community come back into the city proper.

I doubt they will stay.  Beachwood is the New Jewish Downtown for Greater Cleveland.  They'll put it as close to the Maltz Museum and Mandell Center as possible.

actually, I think the hillcrest area is the "old" jewish settlement, after most of the community departed southern Hough/Forest Hills.  Seems like many jews are moving to Solon.

They were supposed to move a few years ago, but after they found out a baptist church would be moving in, plans changed real quick. That church has since built a facility at East 93rd and Shaker BLVD.

I doubt they will stay.  Beachwood is the New Jewish Downtown for Greater Cleveland.  They'll put it as close to the Maltz Museum and Mandell Center as possible.

 

Actually, the move is part of their centennial initiative. While I'm not a decision maker, I am somewhat in the loop. The reason the Federation has kept their HQ on Euclid as long as they have because of a commitment to the vitality of the region. As the article implies, there is are strong emotions on both sides, but if I had to bet, I'd guess that if they can find a viable solution to staying downtown, they will. 

 

FWIW, I got married at Silver's Temple (the one pictured above). It's beautiful inside....but not air conditioned in the main sanctuary. Unfortunately my wedding day was the hottest one of that summer. Ugh. Won't be showing that wedding video to anyone....

actually, I think the hillcrest area is the "old" jewish settlement, after most of the community departed southern Hough/Forest Hills.  Seems like many jews are moving to Solon.

 

Unfortunately, you're right. The trend of the population is largely eastward. You have some younger people who are moving downtown, and a surprising number of folks who moved to the west side (that was unheard of 20 years ago from what I understand).

 

If anyone wants an interesting read on the history of the Cleveland Jewish population, read Merging Traditions....or just flip through it. There are a ton of great pictures of the city from its founding on. It tracks the Jewish population's migration from what is now downtown to Glenville, mount pleasant and eastward along Woodland, Buckeye, Kinsman, etc.

I'd also highly recommend Cleveland: A Metropolitan Reader. In addition to being a fascinating academic analysis of all things Cleveland, there's a great essay by Edward Miggins in it about migratory routes in Cleveland ... looking at where ethnic groups originally settled and how they've tended to move to the suburbs along particular migratory arteries, with the Irish moving out of the westside neighborhoods down Lorain, the Italians out of Little Italy down Mayfield and the jewish population through the east side neighborhoods down Cedar. Interestingly, the article also notes that the African American settlement tended to always reside just to the west of the Jewish one; as people from a Jewish background moved out, African American populations tended to take their place. It's a cool read.

I've said it once and I'll say it again...

 

I'd walk down to E 55th from PS and feel safe.  It's quite amazing looking at the development that has taken place, under construction, and the future potential. 

 

Also, Mayday, you're a tease!!!  That rendering of the WHD made Stark seem cool again...  By the way, did you have any Xmas ale yet?!

CLEVELAND -- The Jewish Community Federation (JCF) is house hunting.

They've got a committee looking at two downtown locations for its new headquarters, and an eastern suburban site as well.

 

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Their current building sits on about a half-acre fronting Euclid.  They own about the same amount in the form of a surface parking lot directly behind the building.  All told, the building occupies about 1/4 of the land.  I understand that they lease in Playhouse Square as well, so, I'm wondering if leasing additional office space in PhSq (subject to available space, of course) could get them by while they demo and rebuild or add onto their current space? 

 

Then again, there may be better uses for that location as well.  Or, they could be the office tenant in a more significant multi-story mixed-use structure.  Say, 4 floors of office over first floor retail and 4 floors of apartments above that?  Or go a little higher on land owned by Playhouse Square just west, directly across from the Palace Theater?  (There's still one private owner in there...)  Just thinking in print...

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the k & d group crew was out touring 668 and the dollar bank building this afternoon.  it looked like they were talking about trying to figure a cut out on euclid for a garage entrance, but i didn't hang around.

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5 Cleveland projects get $30 million in preservation tax credits

$30 million via state tax breaks aids 5 projects in historic urban buildings

Friday, November 16, 2007

Shaheen Samavati

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

The state awarded more than $30 million in tax credits Thursday for five downtown Cleveland renovation projects.

 

Cleveland was the biggest benefactor during the first round of the state's new historic-preservation tax credit awards.

 

The total awards were valued at $35.6 million and included other projects in Akron, Canton, Hamilton and Sandusky.

 

Through the $120 million state program, recipients receive discounts on property taxes that equal 25 percent of the money spent on renovating a historic building. Up to 200 building owners could receive credits before the program ends in June 2009, said Melissa Ament, a spokeswoman for the Ohio Department of Development.

 

The biggest tax credit, valued at $16.4 million, was for work on the 668 Euclid Building. The 430,000-square-foot building is an old department store and office complex owned by the Goldberg family. Managing partner David Goldberg said the family is selling the property....

 

more at: http://www.cleveland.com

 

 

^Does anybody on the board have more information regarding the 668 project?  It seems pretty far along (as least as suggested by the article...construction activity in six months) in terms of development planning, even if the sale has not been completed yet.  I would think somebody here would have some inside information (or even some good speculation). 

I have heard that K&D -- who appear to have their hands in everything these days -- are buying it. That's about all I know.

Sandvick Architects are the people who designed the Arcade and Tower press, and with these new projects, they are definitely leaving there mark on the city.

Sandvick is the area's leading architect for rehab projects.

I'm not at liberty to say who the buyer is - but it is a very active local developer that you have all heard of.  As the article mentions, plans are for over 200+ apartment units with 40,000sf of retail on the first floor.  Access would be given to the underground parking garage by demolishing the old Dollar Bank building next door.  Plans and budgets have already been formalized for the project.  The missing peice was the official tax credit awards for the project.  However, the tax credits currently go to Goldstein (owner of Ohio Savings/Amtrust) and contracts needs to be finalized between the buyer and Goldstein. 

 

A large bank in town has already comitted to purchasing the tax credits which allows the purchaser to use that money as equity to gain final commitment from the Bank.  I would expect you would start to see some movement on construction around March of next year.

Nice!  Thanks for the details.

That's fantastic news about 668!  The difference this will make to this part of Euclid cannot be overstated.  The same goes for the Eli Mann properties, east of 9th Street.  It's all coming together!

 

The Superior Ave projects should be great too.  The south side of the street over there has such nice form to it.  The north side could use some work, though...

 

I'm curious about the remainder of the 32 proposals, though.  Is this list just the first 5 to be awarded or are they the only ones that succeeded?  I'm specifically curious about the Capitol Theatre in Gordon Square.

Why can't they run access to the parking garage on prospect through the retail section on the dollar bank instead of tearing the whole building down. They could use the upper floors for additional apartments,especially if the facade is worth saving.

 

This is done with great affect in New Orleans and really keeps the integrity of the French quarter intact at street level.

 

My concern is they are developing the 668  surrounded  once again, by a sea of parking. Still, the renovation will change the whole perception of that part of  Euclid Ave.

Why does the parking garage needs a separate Euclid entrance.  It has a perfectly fine & convenient Prospect entrance. 

 

Is there a missing detail as to why Euclid access is needed?

Once, they tried to convert the Dollar Bank building into lofts (I even put down the $1000 reservation for a unit*), but it turned out that it was going to be too costly for that particular developer to follow through on the project.  I would hate for them to tear down a building, "just" for access to parking.  Having said that, they could tear it down and then build it back up while incorporating the entrance...I'm sure those of you in the "know" already have insight as to what they are really doing with it.

 

*This 2nd floor unit was huge (I think 2,800 square feet), it combined the old cafeteria and kitchen, old office space and head honcho's office space.  When we saw it, it was like stepping off a time machine right into the late 70's - wallpaper everywhere, old clocks still hanging on the walls, old paintings, one amazing board meeting table, boxes full of blueprints and other cool documents...it had all this amazing restaurant-kitchen equipment that still worked.  Oh, and the coolest thing, the bathroom had two urinals (I've always wanted a urinal in my bathroom).  It would have needed a lot of work, but it would have been fun to work on it.  The only drawback was that it only had two windows and they faced west right into the Arcade next door.

 

 

Certainly not happy with tearing down yet another building on Euclid Avenue.  Just bullsh!t, when are developers going to get it?

An additional curb cut on Euclid seems like a terrible idea, particularly given the transit and bike orientation of the street following the Euclid Corridor project. However, if that's what it takes to get the Atrium renovated, I guess I can accept it. The Atrium is the biggest eyesore on lower Euclid right now -- even more so than Eli Mann's properties. It looks post-apocalyptic.

^ and ^^, agreed.  Tough pill to swallow for me, but very big upside.  I'll be really curious to hear why Prospect garage access is not adequate.

^ and ^^, agreed.  Tough pill to swallow for me, but very big upside.  I'll be really curious to hear why Prospect garage access is not adequate.

 

..especially considering that Euclid is not going to be a main thoroughfare for cars once the Silver Line is complete.

Do they need to tear it down to create windows for the apartments?

^I see what you're saying but these architects and developers should see issues like that and think of them as opportunities to do something interesting.  Instead they automatically say, "need windows, tear down the adjacent building."  What if light wells were carved into the Charter one building to let light flow down instead of demolishing it for an alley.

Don't know exactly what the problem is with strictly Prospect car entrance, but there are certainly better ways to get what they need.  I guess we have to let it play out and hope for the best becasue obviously needs the rehab..

I'm curious about the remainder of the 32 proposals, though.  Is this list just the first 5 to be awarded or are they the only ones that succeeded?  I'm specifically curious about the Capitol Theatre in Gordon Square.

 

The proposals are being reviewed on a first-come, first-serve basis. All of the 11 projects that have been approved for credits to date came from the first 18 applications. They are continuing to review applications on a rolling basis. If I understand correctly, up to 100 projects statewide could receive preservation credits in the pilot year, so I don't anticipate that these will be the only credits to go out.

 

In the next 18 applications, we'll see a lot of Cleveland projects:the Allerton Hotel (1802 E. 13th Street), the Swetland Building (1010 Euclid Avenue), the Cleveland Trust (900 Euclid Avenue), Gospel Press (710 Jefferson), the Krather Block (4138-4146 Pearl Rd.), the Neal Terrace Apartments (8811 Detroit Avenue), Boulevard Terrace Apartments (10119 Detroit Avenue), the Exhibit Builders Building (1526 W. 25th Street), the Rogers Co. Building (2020 Euclid Avenue), the Liberty Building (2010 Euclid Avenue), the Hanna Complex (1400-1438 Euclid Avenue), Cogswell Hall (7200 Franklin Boulevard) and the Capitol Theater (1400 W. 65th Street).

 

I should note that a number of these projects received 45-day notices that their application is deficient in some way and needs to be addressed within 45 days of receipt of the notice (Swetland, Cleveland Trust, Exhibit Builders, Liberty and Hanna). A number of early Cleveland applications have also been skipped over; I don't know why the credit approval or denial hasn't shown up for CIA's factory (11610 Avenue), but Olney House and Gallery (2241-2253 W. 14th Street) and Higbee House (2267 W. 14th Street) each received 45-day notices.

Here is a pic from the Spiderman movie thread.

 

From here, it does not look like windows are needed, maybe perfered....

 

I don't know

The Residence Inn needs some red awnings.

lewarctj, what do you mean by "underground parking garage"?  Is this not the garage fronting on Prospect?  Is it a converted basement?  Are the Prospect Ave offices and garage a part of the project?  Sorry to ask so many questions, but I'm obviously very interested in this project, as it is very important, and I live right around the corner.  Thanks for any info you can share!

I am not sure why the parking entrance on Prospect can not be used - if it is even a possibility.  The initial plans are for 100+ parking spaces to be constructed on the lower level of the building and on the back portion of the 1st floor.  The Dollar Bank building will need to be demolished to make way for the egress and to allow for adjustments made to the current building configuration (i.e. windows, etc.)

 

The demolition of the Dollar Bank building is most likely to occur, but dependant on City approval.  You may end up seeing a building go there as well if there is resistance by the City, but is not the ideal situation for the project as planned. 

 

Since this is a conversion to residential use, the developers will have to cut windows out of the building on the sides that are currently blocked off. 

 

 

  Are the Prospect Ave offices and garage a part of the project?  Sorry

 

The 645 Prospect Garage is part of this project as well

The Residence Inn needs some red awnings.

 

Egh, what's wrong with the terra cotta ?

Didn't that garage just get renovated a couple years ago?

Actually, I could see "resistance" from the city in regards to tearing down the Dollar Bank Building, although it will be hesitant to kill the project. 

 

In the next 18 applications, we'll see a lot of Cleveland projects:the Allerton Hotel (1802 E. 13th Street), the Swetland Building (1010 Euclid Avenue), the Cleveland Trust (900 Euclid Avenue), Gospel Press (710 Jefferson), the Krather Block (4138-4146 Pearl Rd.), the Neal Terrace Apartments (8811 Detroit Avenue), Boulevard Terrace Apartments (10119 Detroit Avenue), the Exhibit Builders Building (1526 W. 25th Street), the Rogers Co. Building (2020 Euclid Avenue), the Liberty Building (2010 Euclid Avenue), the Hanna Complex (1400-1438 Euclid Avenue), Cogswell Hall (7200 Franklin Boulevard) and the Capitol Theater (1400 W. 65th Street).

 

Per the ODOD's website (http://net.odod.state.oh.us/ohptc/) the Allerton Hotel submission has been officially denied b/c it was incomplete.  Also the application for University Tower Apartments at 1575 East Blvd (aka. Soverign Hotel) has been withdrawn.

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