Too bad there are so many concrete interruptions to the general flow of the Euclid Avenue brick walks.  I suppose some are some sort of entries to the underground lockers that must be there but it seems many places where there are brick walks (such as the very most flavorful, such as Beacon Hill, Boston) such concrete interruptions are not seen.  In the case of a street, such as E. 6th, there are large concrete portions on both sides of the intersection.

Is the asbestos removal still going on with the Breuer Tower?  Haven't gotten a concrete answer as to what's going up behind the McDonalds at Euclid and E. 83rd.  Cleve. Planning Dept., Councilwoman's office, etc. haven't come through.  Someone at the Play House believes it is to be "food store" (i.e. supermarket??).  Still no sign up.  I looked in the County Admin. Bldg. and they just say the parcels are owned by an entity called "Euclid-E. 83" - or something like that.

Hope they get going with restoring the original (or at least elegant) facades of those three buildings between the Huntington and the Statler Arms.  Does anyone know what progress there is?

Is there actually a Gap planned for next to Cadillac Ranch?

I fear for the safety of that '59 Caddy.  It's rather cool (and I notice they didn't go in for one with a "hot" color - the powder blue is one of my favorites but understated yet still "period") but not in A-1 condition - note missing grate, for example).  Do you think it's temporarily related the the opening hype or would it be out 24/7 indefinitely, in all weather and subject to any vandalism?  It calls to mind the old fraternity-type stunts, with someone removing the car at 2 a.m.  Wonder what kind of alarm system the place has.  I'd love to see the car stay, but....

Why are you asking if there is a Gap planned for next to Caddilac Ranch?

That is not the first time someone has posted that rumor. Where are people hearing this? Is it from a reliable source?

 

It would be one of the very few tasteful shops out on the street dealing with menswear - a situation for years now and a shame.

And oops - I meant "Cadillac!"  Like the touristy site near Amarillo and the famous Route 66!

Any idea when the restaurant at E. 4th and Euclid is set to open?  The one that's almost open in the middle of E. 4th (by Lola's and World Bar)?  They're set to hire staff now.  I see another one's planned on the east side but I haven't noticed construction yet.

Too bad there are so many concrete interruptions to the general flow of the Euclid Avenue brick walks.  I suppose some are some sort of entries to the underground lockers that must be there but it seems many places where there are brick walks (such as the very most flavorful, such as Beacon Hill, Boston) such concrete interruptions are not seen.  In the case of a street, such as E. 6th, there are large concrete portions on both sides of the intersection.

Is the asbestos removal still going on with the Breuer Tower?  Haven't gotten a concrete answer as to what's going up behind the McDonalds at Euclid and E. 83rd.  Cleve. Planning Dept., Councilwoman's office, etc. haven't come through.  Someone at the Play House believes it is to be "food store" (i.e. supermarket??).  Still no sign up.  I looked in the County Admin. Bldg. and they just say the parcels are owned by an entity called "Euclid-E. 83" - or something like that.

Hope they get going with restoring the original (or at least elegant) facades of those three buildings between the Huntington and the Statler Arms.  Does anyone know what progress there is?

Is there actually a Gap planned for next to Cadillac Ranch?

I fear for the safety of that '59 Caddy.  It's rather cool (and I notice they didn't go in for one with a "hot" color - the powder blue is one of my favorites but understated yet still "period") but not in A-1 condition - note missing grate, for example).  Do you think it's temporarily related the the opening hype or would it be out 24/7 indefinitely, in all weather and subject to any vandalism?  It calls to mind the old fraternity-type stunts, with someone removing the car at 2 a.m.  Wonder what kind of alarm system the place has.  I'd love to see the car stay, but....

 

Lol, to MayDay.  lafont - I think what MayDay is trying to get at is that you may want to look around UO at all the other threads, because there's a thread for just about everything.  You're obviously enthusiastic, but your posts will be better split up into other threads so our heads stop spinning!

 

This page http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php lists the groups of threads.  Click on any one (like Northeast Ohio Projects and Construction), and you'll get a list of threads in the group.  Threads for RTA and the Euclid Corridor can be found in the Transportation group.

LOL, I already redirected him from the Euclid Corridor thread to this one so he could ask a development-related thread.

 

Truth be told, there are a lot of developments happening, and many more rumored, with countless threads here to sift through. Let's help the newcomers here.

 

Tip: when in doubt use the UO search function (and don't use commas between your search terms!).

Agreed.  No reason for unappointed arbiters to make someone feel silly about asking a relevant question.

Agreed. No reason for unappointed arbiters to make someone feel silly about asking a relevant question.

 

Sorry, I meant to sound helpful, not b!tchy :(

Thanks BelievelandD!  Yes, I'm finding more and more separate blog topics here - too many, actually.  There are lots and lots of overlaps.  And I do use the "Search" function.

I know a lot of the same people try to keep up with lots of topics, so I'd assume someone could answer several questions at once.  Ah, efficiency, efficiency....

I know a lot of the same people try to keep up with lots of topics, so I'd assume someone could answer several questions at once. Ah, efficiency, efficiency....

 

Psst!  The mods don't like that :-D

 

"No reason for unappointed arbiters to make someone feel silly about asking a relevant question."

 

1. I'm an appointed Admin of this forum. :-)

2. Relevant questions are always welcome, but when I see *that* many different questions about *that* many different projects in one or two posts, it makes it hard to keep things on topic.

 

And sorry if that rubbed you the wrong way, lafont.

That's okay, MayDay.  It's just as a professional librarian I'm always thinking in terms of overall classification, and it would seem to me a blog devoted to the Euclid Corridor (or is it really the RedLine?  I note much on that blog is about buildings, not the transit line itself) would be the appropriate place to ask a question about something along the street.  A blog devoted to "Northeast Ohio Projects and Construction" seems way, way too broad when inquiring about a project along Euclid Avenue.  That's what the "Search" function is for, as well, if one blog diversifies into various topics.

The Euclid Corridor is not the Red Line, for one.

 

The Red Line is part of the Rapid.

I meant, of course, "HealthLine."

A blog devoted to "Northeast Ohio Projects and Construction" seems way, way too broad when inquiring about a project along Euclid Avenue. That's what the "Search" function is for, as well, if one blog diversifies into various topics.

 

That's only the category.  If you click on Northeast Ohio Projecs and Construction, you'll see a list of individual threads about everything - E. 4th, Flats East Bank, Ameritrust Tower - just to name a few.  :-D

^^Northeast Ohio Projects and Construction is just a subject, and under that there are many threads (they aren't the same as blogs, really) that deal with each individual project (East Bank of the Flats, Euclid Ave, Medical Mart, etc).  Then, under the subject of Transportation, there are threads devoted to individual transportation projects including the Healthline, the RTA in general, Hopkins, etc.  So actually, everything is very organized into very specific topics.  You'll get the hang of it after awhile.

 

Oh, and Welcome to UO!

Okay, I understand the basic taxonomy.  It's just so fragmented.  One has to keep skipping around and following many threads if one is interested in anything of substance, such as Cleveland neighborhoods, the CBD, area architecture, etc.  It was someone on Steve Litt's blog who originally suggested UrbanOhio to me but I had no idea it is so complex.

I know, I know, Take It or Leave it....  If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.  Well, Majority Rules! 8-)

^If you're a regular follower of the site, use the "Show unread posts since last visit" link that is near the top of every page.  That way, if you just want to follow the threads that have movement/activity, you don't have to ever go to the Transportation and NEO Projects and Constructions main threads. 

 

If you do want to post in a topic that may not necessarily have had a post in it recently, then use the Search function to find the thread you want.

 

I dunno, that's just the way I do it....It seems pretty logical and organized to me...

Okay, I understand the basic taxonomy.  It's just so fragmented.  One has to keep skipping around and following many threads if one is interested in anything of substance, such as Cleveland neighborhoods, the CBD, area architecture, etc.  It was someone one Steve Litt's blog who originally suggested UrbanOhio to me but I had no idea it is so complex.

I know, I know, Take It or Leave it....  If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.  Well, Majority Rules! 8-)

 

This forum's format is essentially similar to most urban planning and architecture forums. It works for forums like skyscraperpage.com, which has been around for ten years and has 16,000+ members, and skyscrapercity.com which has over 200,000 members. Yes, there are lots of topics and there's some cross-pollination but this layout is the best approach for both members and Admins/Mods. Keep in mind, this is not a blog with just one person providing an update a day - it's a forum and the dynamics are much different.

EDIT: Posted this in the wrong thread. Check out the University Circle one instead: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,2977.new.html#new

How long has been 515 been sitting there without tenants? what's the deal?

How long has been 515 been sitting there without tenants? what's the deal?

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,3198.0.html

As far as filling in Euclid Ave goes...

 

This may be a great opportunity to re-program the city's most important street.  It's a shame that a large portion of Euclid is occupied by the bank where activity is confined from 8-5, 5 days/wk--and that activity is at its peak on lunch hour smoke breaks.  Between the NCC frontage from E6-E9, the Schofield building, 668, the abandoned parking lot that's equally embarrassing as the PS parking lots, and ALL of Euclid east of E9, the city has a great chance to turn downtown into a self-sustaining neighborhood...actually a DESTINATION!!!  Any retail/hotel/residential development happening between E9 and CSU could be linked all the way to the WHD.   

 

 

 

And with that, we can take the National City discussion to the appropriate thread.

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,478.msg336719.html#new

 

I wasn't really sure where to put this but City Year and the charter school have both moved out of the Cleveland Athletic Club building. As far as I know the building is now empty.

 

Didn't Eli Mann acquire this building for an apartment conversion? I thought this was on the back burner but maybe this shows that renovations will be happening soon.

Good question. But you are correct that Mann has the CAC. The apartment market downtown is robust, despite what the PD says but doesn't know. If Mann can get financing, I'm sure the CAC will be a winner.

The CAC did get $4.1M in state historic tax credits.  I guess he's still having trouble financing the rest?

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,7408.msg236369/topicseen.html#msg236369

 

Two other Euclid Avenue buildings, owned by developer Eli Mann, also received state incentives.

 

The Cleveland Athletic Club, at 1118-1148 Euclid Ave., received a $4.1 million credit. The top five floors of the building will remain the home of the century-old Athletic Club.

 

When the $23.2 million project is finished, three floors will be retail and office space, and seven floors will be developed into apartments, Mann's real estate broker, Richard Sheehan, has said. Mann has similar plans for a $27.4 million mixed-used project at the John Hartness Brown Building, which received a $5.8 million tax credit and is across the street at 1000-1021 Euclid Ave.

There are other issues with the CAC building, it's not just a financing thing.

Heard rumblings this past week of outlet stores entering Euclid Avenue such as Gap. BR. etc. Obviously its just rumors at this point, but what do you think?

There was already an article posted in one of the other threads about this? Cleveland Retail, I believe.

 

Have you read this?

Sort of a recap of everything we already know...but tucked away from the PD nonetheless:

 

Signs of new life along Cleveland's Euclid Avenue

Posted by The editors April 06, 2009 04:16AM

Categories: Editorial

 

Throughout the many years it took to conceive, design and build the Euclid Corridor -- or HealthLine, as the Regional Transit Authority's sleek new bus route is formally known -- advocates insisted that this was an economic development opportunity, not simply a transportation project linking Public Square and University Circle.

 

By rebuilding one of Cleveland's historic grand boulevards, they said, the city could breathe new life into a thoroughfare that had become anything but grand...

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/pdopinion/2009/04/signs_of_new_life_along_clevel.html

Anyone else notice the steel going up for the building next to Brothers Printing, filling in the gap between the buildings, and guess what, without a tree lawn.

Yup.  Can't wait to see that take shape.

I did.  And I almost swerved off the road and crashed.  I've been meaning to take a pic and post it in the college town thread.  I didn't realize they were moving forward with the new construction phase of that project already.

^it is interesting. I looks like the new construction will be quite shallow. It will fill the gap along Euclid front, but it will not take up the entire parcel. Looks like a good strategy to get something built in this environment and improve the urban context.

Where is this? What's going up here?

Sort of a recap of everything we already know...but tucked away from the PD nonetheless:

 

Signs of new life along Cleveland's Euclid Avenue

Posted by The editors April 06, 2009 04:16AM

Categories: Editorial

 

Throughout the many years it took to conceive, design and build the Euclid Corridor -- or HealthLine, as the Regional Transit Authority's sleek new bus route is formally known -- advocates insisted that this was an economic development opportunity, not simply a transportation project linking Public Square and University Circle...

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/pdopinion/2009/04/signs_of_new_life_along_clevel.html

 

Nice article.  What editor(s) wrote this as I cannot find any negativity.  Perhaps a visiting or guest editor.

^there are two buildings that are being renovated into residential units. To the immediate east of these buildings, there is a surface lot. The new construction (residential as well) is obviously going on the old surface lot and it will be connected to the existing buildings.

it is the "university lofts" portion of college town, above and next to the new bookstore.

Maybe this discussion should be moved over into the College Town thread....although it is technically "Filling in Euclid Ave."

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,13086.330.html

It could and probably should go in both.

I have pics of the Marous Bros construction next to Brothers.  I will post tonight.

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2009/06/competing_development_proposal.html

 

Competing development proposals put Midtown Cleveland's future at a crossroads

by Michelle Jarboe/ Plain Dealer Reporter

Saturday June 06, 2009, 12:16 PM

 

CLEVELAND -- The remaking of Euclid Avenue was meant to lure billions of dollars in development to the corridor, replacing blight with homes, stores and businesses between downtown Cleveland and University Circle.

 

The $200 million Euclid Corridor transportation project certainly has spurred interest in Cleveland's Midtown district, which stretches from East 28th Street to East 79th Street, with Euclid running down the middle.

 

........

I realize America hasn't been around for very long and that many U.S. cities are even younger, but do we have to be so impatient in shaping our cities? What's the hurry in trying to fill in the voids on Euclid with anything they can get? Are people afraid the city will die in the next few years? Or are theye afraid they won't live to see their dreams happen in their lifetime? Does that make those dreams any less worth pursuing?

 

My dream is that we try to build our cities to last thousands of years. If we build for the moment, I fear this city will be much less than what it could otherwise be.

I hope Midtown is able to prevent this stuff from going up.  Euclid Ave already has an abundance of poorly sited social services.  The lessons of the lakefront are very clear.  I cannot believe the city would want to put a mental hospital on Euclid.  Impeach these people.  What a shockingly destructive move.  It isn't clear why the Midtown folks are equivocating, because this would indeed end any hope of Midtown becoming a desirable address.  I also cannot believe the homeless agency would behave like this.  The points they're denying are beyond obvious.  In a city full of empty spaces, why relegate the new Euclid to institutional uses?  This is insanity.  I shall barf now.

I am absolutely in favor of increasing social services, but in does this need to be in such prime real estate? Especially an area w/ as much potential as Euclid Ave?

I'm probably moving back to Midtown soon and I admit having some NIMBY interest in this.  But part of my doing so is in hopes of getting involved with its revitalization.  These developments would make the task more difficult, maybe pointless because the neighborhood's character will already be locked into "things that scare or sadden people."  Not quite the character I or anyone else who lives there has had in mind. 

 

The area around 55th should be developed to complement the Agora, with a small entertainment district that could serve as an inner-city welcome center for young people-- perfectly situated between two universities notorious for not having much campus life.  Or, we could put something on a new transit line that's filled with people who can't even leave the building.  Stupendous.  I'm certainly not against social services, and I support building more mental hospitals.  But right there?  Please tell me they're joking.               

I agree with MidTown Inc. dude, we can find a better address... think about the location for the new juvi housing center in the forgotten triangle near MLK and Woodhill.  Don't they have a brownfield over there I remember hearing some guy wanted to develop, get federal money to clean the brownfield and stimulus money to build the thing.  Done.