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Awesome news about Geiger's. I will definitely be supporting them.

 

By the way, anyone know how many retail spots are planned to be in the Ivory? I'm assuming it's not just the one, but I could be wrong.

  • 3 weeks later...

May 28, 201504:09 PMPoint of View

Site Visit: The Redevelopment of a Cleveland Corridor Links Art, Education, Healthcare and Communities

Annie-Marie Lubenau

 

After visiting Grand Rapids Downtown Market in Michigan, the Bruner Foundation team headed to Cleveland to visit another of the five 2015 Rudy Bruner Award for Urban Excellence finalists.

 

Located at a convergence of neighborhoods three miles south of downtown Cleveland, Uptown District is the redevelopment of a corridor that links surrounding neighborhoods with art, educational, and healthcare institutions, producing outdoor gathering spaces, retail shops and restaurants, student and market-rate housing, and public transit connections in the process. This new development has transformed two city blocks of Euclid Avenue between two of the city’s leading cultural institutions that were a no man’s land of vacant and underused properties into a community gateway and destination.

 

The sleek, aluminum-clad buildings of the district were designed by San Francisco-based Stanley Saitowitz of Natoma Architects and developed by MRN Ltd., a local, family owned real estate company responsible for the successful East 4th Street district in downtown Cleveland.  The ground floors host retailers and restaurants including nationally and locally owned businesses such as the Barnes and Noble Case Western Reserve University Bookstore, Mitchell’s Ice Cream, The Corner Alley bowling and entertainment venue, and Constantino’s, the area’s only grocery store. Upper floors include contemporary, market-rate rental apartments and student housing for Cleveland Institute of Art freshmen.

 

MORE:

http://www.metropolismag.com/Point-of-View/May-2015/Site-Visit-The-Redevelopment-of-a-Cleveland-Corridor-Links-Art-Education-Healthcare-and-Communities/

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Is it possible to remove the question mark from the thread title? I know it's minor but i never understood why one existed.

  • 1 year later...

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^ Great for those drunken W.6th and Flats East Bank nights.

 

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The new sign is up on 200 Public Square. It is quite nice, I would upload a photo, but the website's restrictions on the type (.jpeg, but not .jpg) and size of file prevent me from doing so.

  • 1 month later...

Not gonna happen. A Cleveland.com article quoted a company rep as saying they'll be open by the end of the year.

 

 

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That's two weeks away. I just walked past it yesterday and it doesn't look like its been touched.

 

There were workers in there today.

 

Glad to see this coming in (yeah, it's a Taco Bell... but a higher-end Taco Bell).  Much better than that long-been ex-Cadillac Ranch eyesore corner of Euclid.

Especially with all the people coming downtown just to see and visit Public Square.  It will be nice to have a casual place open late (hopefully?) nearby.

Glad to see this coming in (yeah, it's a Taco Bell... but a higher-end Taco Bell).  Much better than that long-been ex-Cadillac Ranch eyesore corner of Euclid.

 

The only thing I liked about Cadillac Ranch was their outdoor patio. Hoping Taco Bell does something similar to make good use of that space, but it's unclear from the renderings.

Glad to see this coming in (yeah, it's a Taco Bell... but a higher-end Taco Bell).  Much better than that long-been ex-Cadillac Ranch eyesore corner of Euclid.

 

The only thing I liked about Cadillac Ranch was their outdoor patio. Hoping Taco Bell does something similar to make good use of that space, but it's unclear from the renderings.

 

The bar was terrible but that fire pit was perfect.  I wish those were more common, it's cold for half the year here.  Fire good.

Posting about a recent junkie siting is not development news.  Not by a longshot.

 

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Well, it's sort of filling in Euclid...

 

Have you seen the #cleSPARX mural at 668 Euclid? Come to SPARX on Sat. And check it out! https://t.co/bRCmryTg6t

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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Re a Dunkin Donuts on Rockwell......man, we must be really desperate for things to densifying Euclid Ave to include it in this thread!

A block or two north of Euclid Ave/E.9th, Dunkin Donuts is opening a new store. http://www.cleveland19.com/story/37077633/dunkin-donuts-opening-first-downtown-cleveland-store-soon-photos

 

Channel 19 has it wrong, this is not the "first". For many, many years there was a Dunkin' Donuts on Euclid Avenue in one of the Arcades. I think it is currently the Yum Yum's space on 512 Euclid. If you look at it closely it still maintains most of the Dunkin' Donuts look/layout.

 

Having said that, this new place looks to be a "full-service" location which is certainly welcome in the area.

A block or two north of Euclid Ave/E.9th, Dunkin Donuts is opening a new store. http://www.cleveland19.com/story/37077633/dunkin-donuts-opening-first-downtown-cleveland-store-soon-photos

 

Channel 19 has it wrong, this is not the "first". For many, many years there was a Dunkin' Donuts on Euclid Avenue in one of the Arcades. I think it is currently the Yum Yum's space on 512 Euclid. If you look at it closely it still maintains most of the Dunkin' Donuts look/layout.

 

Having said that, this new place looks to be a "full-service" location which is certainly welcome in the area.

 

 

Does anyone know what was in this space prior to Dunkin donuts?

^ It's been vacant for as long as I can remember.

A) Yum Yum's is god-sent. Cannot recommend it enough.

 

B) I had heard that all of the Chick-Fil-A pop up shops along Euclid this year were, in part, a case study to see where the best location would be to open a Chick-Fil-A downtown. Anyone heard anything beyond that?

  • 7 months later...

I passed by the surface parking lot between the City Club and The Residence at 668 and noticed a sign that indicates that it is available for development. Any rumors about any takers on this property? Looks like a perfect location for another high-rise like The Beacon but on the south side to balance out the height of the Euclid corridor. It's a gaping hole for sure that needs to be filled.

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^ That's been available for development for about a 7 years or so.

Yes that sign has been there for awhile. There was some speculative talk from the urban ohio forumers hoping that Medical mutual build a new headquarters

there.

Right, isn't Marie the daughter of the guy that had the Hippodrome torn down?

^Krenzler, behind only Albert Porter as perhaps the greatest villain to urbanity in Cleveland history. In my opinion...

  • 3 months later...

Michigan developer weighs downtown deal

 

Michigan real estate developer Jonathan Holtzman, who is building apartments throughout the Midwest, wants to construct a mixed-use residential building in downtown Cleveland.

 

Holtzman, CEO of City Club Apartments in Farmington Hills, described the proposed structure as a "high-rise" as he confirmed his interest in downtown Cleveland in an email from his public relations firm.

 

 

https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/michigan-developer-weighs-downtown-deal

Wow, that was unexpected. Hope it progresses, but I’m hopeful since they already have some active projects. Wonder how tall of a building they are thinking?

That is huge news! 

I was downtown for the holiday lighting last night and noticed there’s a pop up bar in the corner space of the Schofield Building, looks like a cool little spot. Great location for a little bar. Didn’t check it out but it’s on my list for the season.

4 hours ago, Clefan98 said:

Michigan developer weighs downtown deal

 

Michigan real estate developer Jonathan Holtzman, who is building apartments throughout the Midwest, wants to construct a mixed-use residential building in downtown Cleveland.

 

Holtzman, CEO of City Club Apartments in Farmington Hills, described the proposed structure as a "high-rise" as he confirmed his interest in downtown Cleveland in an email from his public relations firm.

 

 

https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/michigan-developer-weighs-downtown-deal

I wonder if KJP has any insider info on this. I agree the location is perfect.

Haven't heard but its sounds great. The Hippodrome lot is screaming for a building. 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Awesome if true 

If this project actually happens, we would have 3 apartment high-rises completed along Euclid Ave. in a span of 5 years! Freaking unbelievable.

Four, if you include One University Circle.

 

Now that's how you fill in Euclid Avenue! 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

  • 1 month later...

For possible future reference, I'm posting some quick math regarding current projects to add residential space along Euclid between Public Square and Playhouse Square. In some cases, where the building is being completely rehabbed, I'm including the total square footage of the building which may include some ground-floor retail space or some co-working spaces. I'm not including all of the space in the Halle's and Terminal Tower buildings for example, because roughly half of each will not be touched and therefore is not subject to the construction investment....

 

MayCo      800,000
925         1,360,000
EucGrand  308,000
CAC          225,000
Beacon    300,000
Lumen     602,000
Halle        200,000
TermTwr 340,000

TOTAL  4,060,000 square feet

 

Part of my reason for doing this is to show that, while we may not have construction cranes lining Euclid Avenue, we do have construction -- a lot of it. Only two of these buildings required construction cranes, accounting for 900,000 square feet or less than 1/4 of the residential square footage being developed on this one section of Euclid Avenue alone. So when someone says it's a bummer that Cleveland doesn't have more construction cranes dotting in our skyline, we probably would have them if we didn't already have so much obsolete office space available for residential conversion!

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^Not sure it necessarily follows that we'd have a lot of new construction if not for the conversions. These conversions tend to be a lot cheaper to develop, among other reasons, because of the state subsidies.

14 minutes ago, StapHanger said:

^Not sure it necessarily follows that we'd have a lot of new construction if not for the conversions. These conversions tend to be a lot cheaper to develop, among other reasons, because of the state subsidies.

 

Hard to say if they're interchangeable and at what ratio. Perhaps we might have different subsidies in place to foster more new construction? Subsidies usually come in response to a private sector initiative. Now that we're running out of old office buildings to convert, I suspect we'll see new incentives to foster new construction (like the transformational tax credit) on top of the Opportunity Zone credit. But converting the old office buildings was definitely the low-hanging fruit.

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^That's an interesting point. I had never really thought of it as the state being responsive to Cleveland urban development interests, but the history of the historic credits, including the catalytic version, and now the possibility of the transformational credit do sort of point to that.  Will definitely  be interesting to see if the unit growth via medium/large project continues after the pipeline of old buildings dries up. Still a lot of units to absorb in the current pipeline, but fingers crossed. 

A very comprehensive report with a lot there to be processed - among other takeaways it underscores the low number of non rental downtown residences.  I celebrate the growth in downtown population, but my concern, is that many apartment owners evolve towards ownership - and we just don’t have many attractive downtown options in that regard..  For  growth trends to be sustainable downtown in the long-term,  we need to create compelling opportunities for buyers, not just renters.  

15 hours ago, CleveFan said:

A very comprehensive report with a lot there to be processed - among other takeaways it underscores the low number of non rental downtown residences.  I celebrate the growth in downtown population, but my concern, is that many apartment owners evolve towards ownership - and we just don’t have many attractive downtown options in that regard..  For  growth trends to be sustainable downtown in the long-term,  we need to create compelling opportunities for buyers, not just renters.  

 

It's a new market with over 4M square feet currently under construction!  Fill those and maintain leases for 5 years and maybe there will be enough confidence to put some up for sale.

 

Until then, there's a giant risk in relying on individual purchases to fund the project.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Got word today that an AT&T store is going in at the corner of East 9th in Euclid at the Schofield. The location was formerly the Holiday pop up bar and former Nike Pop Up store. 

I'm glad they filled that space....but those Pop Up Bars were a lot of fun!!

11 hours ago, zbaris87 said:

Got word today that an AT&T store is going in at the corner of East 9th in Euclid at the Schofield. The location was formerly the Holiday pop up bar and former Nike Pop Up store. 

Great news, a big catch on arguably the busiest corner in the city. It's crazy that downtown, the AT&T left downtown retail a few years ago and came back to be right down the street from its old location. Same goes with Verizon, they left the Uptown retail scene about 10 years ago just to return a few doors down from the original spot. Funny how retail works.

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