What's that green stuff on the other side of the street? I don't recall seeing that around here this late in December....

Happy Hollidays!  Taken this morning.

 

Thanks!

In Oldmanladyluck's photo, I like how the top of the Terminal Tower is above the Marriott hotel.  It looks like the hotel has a new spire.

 

Very creative!

In Oldmanladyluck's photo, I like how the top of the Terminal Tower is above the Marriott hotel.  It looks like the hotel has a new spire.

 

Very creative!

The Key Tower above the Hilton hotel?

In Oldmanladyluck's photo, I like how the top of the Terminal Tower is above the Marriott hotel.  It looks like the hotel has a new spire.

 

Very creative!

The Key Tower above the Hilton hotel?

I'm pretty sure it is the Terminal Tower, seeing as the Key Tower is right next to the Marriot.

I revised two of my images to show the convention center hotel.

 

 

 

 

Redirected from the nuCLEus thread....

 

I was about to correct you that the hotel will be roughly the same height as the Justice Center. But now that we know the hotel will be 372 feet tall, that comes up nearly 50 feet shorter than the Justice Center's 420 ft. :(

Today

Are the cor towers about 8 to 9 stories up so far?

Actually they are only one floor above the podium  The podium is 90 feet-4 floors.  Above the podium the floors should be a more standard size.  Aprox 11-12 feet each.

Actually they are only one floor above the podium  The podium is 90 feet-4 floors.  Above the podium the floors should be a more standard size.  Aprox 11-12 feet each.

 

According to the photos submitted to the planning commission, the floor plates above the podium are 9 feet, except for a couple others like the penthouse level.

Looks to me like they are forming the 7th floor of the cores.  They are currently forming the columns for the fourth floor.

CONSTRUCTION UPDATE: DECEMBER 2014

CONSTRUCTION • Concrete floors are complete through Level 5.-To date, more than 16,000 cubic yards of concrete has been placed. • Approximately 15,000 onsite working manhours are anticipated for the month of December, totaling approximately 145,000 manhours for the entire project to date. • To date, more than 620 people have come onsite for construction.

DESIGN • The design team is continuing to work through, coordinate, and finalize the  design for permitting and construction.-90% construction documents will be released by the end of December. • Building Information Modeling (BIM) coordination between Turner, the  design team, and certain Subcontractors is continuing to progress. -BIM coordination from Level 3 and below is slated to be complete by the  end of December.  Levels 4 and above are progressing.

SCHEDULE Construction continues to remain on-schedule! • Concrete construction (floors, beams, columns) continues above Level 5. • Mechanical, electrical, plumbing, and fire protection rough-ins, conduits, sleeves, duct, and piping are continuing as areas become available throughout the building. • Spray-on fireproofing of the structural steel is progressing and will continue into 2015. • Interior drywall and masonry wall layout and installation are progressing and will continue up the building as areas become available. • Roofing of the Podium has begun and will continue into the Spring. • Precast concrete façade and glass curtainwall panels are in full production. -Precast panel installation has begun and will continue into the Spring, and glass curtainwall installation will begin in January 2015

thanks for posting the update i was wondering -- looking good!

Today:

From today...

 

 

 

 

 

Exterior work beginning...

 

The exterior material looks a little cheap. Does it look any better in-person?

What exterior material?

The exterior material looks a little cheap. Does it look any better in-person?

 

What the what? There is no exterior material! That was funny.

^unless theyre talking about the tiny bit of precast in the bottom left hand corner. Nonetheless, trust me when I say that the exterior is NOT cheap, especially the glass curtain wall

Oldmanladyluck said "exterior work beginning" and showed some pics with a little bit of precast concrete exterior material. Does no one else see that? Am I taking crazy pills?

 

I think I'm just not a fan of concrete in general as an exterior material, but I'm withholding judgments until it's completed.

I missed the earlier comments- yep, I was referring to the concrete in the corner.  Looks like more has been put in place; taken today...

i agree that the precast concrete panels look cheap.  I was in Cleveland during the  holidays and I saw the panels up close.  They are very thin and the linear detail is too subtle. 

I assumed some type of paneling was going to be put over the concrete, but looking at the renderings.... maybe not.

From the Fifth Third Building this week.

 

January update:

 

http://www.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_home/en-US/ConventionCenter/ProjectUpdates/HCD_ConstructionUpdate_0115.pdf

It looks like they are going to need a bigger crane pretty soon.

 

I thought the EXACT same thing! LOL!

 

I thought the EXACT same thing! LOL!

 

Lol nice

Photo updates from yesterday and this morning...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Awesome...looks like the elevator cores are 3 or 4 stories above the base now.

I really don't like the concrete panels. They don't even look like they're secure. Driving past, it looked like there were spaces between some of the panels. It just looks a little uneven. Hopefully that gets worked out.

 

I'm sure once the glass curtain wall goes up, it will be easy to overlook the concrete. But right now, it's the only exterior material we're seeing and it doesn't look great.

The prefabricated panels lack enough dimension in the linear design.  The Ontario Ave. face should have had concrete panels have more of a setback to its glass curtain wall.  When you see the panels up close next to the classic beaux arts detailing on The County Courthouse you begin to see this architecture misses the use of light and shadow. 

 

 

Photos from the monthly December progress report.  The last one has a room mock up they constructed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

very interesting pics - hopefully the room mockup isnt the final decision and they pick a brighter and more modern design than 1970s brown carpet & paneling style.

 

 

did anyone hear about the spoiled hilton kid melting down on a plane flight? its paris hilton's brother:

http://m.tmz.com/%23Article/2015/02/03/paris-hiltons-brother-conrad-arrested-for-going-berserk-on-plane-i-will-f-king-own-you-peasants

 

I think that image of the room is being done very little justice by only being lit with artificial light. That being said, why the heck are they so afraid of color? Very little annoys me more than an interior designer coming up with a scheme that is comprised of multiple shades/tones of beige, brown, and tan with a similarly earthy color as the "accent" (the red here) and thinking it's bold. No, make those walls a light cool grey, get some white platform beds, use some walnut for the desk, get some chairs that are some super bright warm color (yellow, orange, whatever), get a more solid white fabric for the curtains, and for the love of god, never even think brown carpet is acceptable anywhere ever and get a dark grey carpet in there. Modern sleek, bright, more fun, not 70s, no beige/tan/brown syndrome.

I think that image of the room is being done very little justice by only being lit with artificial light. That being said, why the heck are they so afraid of color? Very little annoys me more than an interior designer coming up with a scheme that is comprised of multiple shades/tones of beige, brown, and tan with a similarly earthy color as the "accent" (the red here) and thinking it's bold. No, make those walls a light cool grey, get some white platform beds, use some walnut for the desk, get some chairs that are some super bright warm color (yellow, orange, whatever), get a more solid white fabric for the curtains, and for the love of god, never even think brown carpet is acceptable anywhere ever and get a dark grey carpet in there. Modern sleek, bright, more fun, not 70s, no beige/tan/brown syndrome.

Yea, I don't think I'd spend $250+ to stay in that room.

Yeah it looks more like a budget hotel attempting to be high end. Not something I'd spend a lot of money to stay in.

If the interior designers think bringing back the 60-70's in a brand new hotel is the "hip" thing to do, then the interior design team needs to be let go, and a new design team must be hired that would truly make the Cleveland Downtown Hilton a talked about place to stay. NO brown carpet, NO 60-70's furniture, please start over with the interior design of the rooms, and the public areas too.

Shall we have this instead? I'm especially fond of the shag carpet and crushed velvet upholstery.

I just gagged.

 

Dramatics aside, I really do question what they were thinking with this room design. It's just bad. A modern glass skyscraper shouldn't have a brown interior. It's just wrong.

Where in the world is MTS to weigh in on this Hilton Motor Lodge?

I think that image of the room is being done very little justice by only being lit with artificial light. That being said, why the heck are they so afraid of color? Very little annoys me more than an interior designer coming up with a scheme that is comprised of multiple shades/tones of beige, brown, and tan with a similarly earthy color as the "accent" (the red here) and thinking it's bold. No, make those walls a light cool grey, get some white platform beds, use some walnut for the desk, get some chairs that are some super bright warm color (yellow, orange, whatever), get a more solid white fabric for the curtains, and for the love of god, never even think brown carpet is acceptable anywhere ever and get a dark grey carpet in there. Modern sleek, bright, more fun, not 70s, no beige/tan/brown syndrome.

Yea, I don't think I'd spend $250+ to stay in that room.

 

This probably the"standard" room type.  There are "deluxe" and more choices at most hotels of this size.  Plus, this is a convention center hotel.  It's meant to be functional for the guest and easy to clean and turn around for the hotel.  Also, while it looks cheap in the pix the materials used for a hotel of this type look better in person.  Now, if this were a Park Hyatt i'd be concerned, but as a standard convention hotel it's fine.

My problem with this room design is that it is exactly what I would expect if I was coming from out of town with stereotypical impressions of Cleveland. Oh look, it's a 70's themed rust-belty room. Exactly what I think everyone's house in Cleveland looks like.  Not chic, or modern or in any way cosmopolitan. I understand what MD88PILOT is saying, and yes, it's a convention hotel, so I'm not expecting Four Season appointments. But a modern color scheme isn't too much to ask for and adds nothing to the cost.

 

Oh, and lose those desk chairs. They're awful.

My guess is they looked at the success of the 9 and thought, "Hey, let's do that, too."  It works there because the building really is from that era.

The design choices are awful. Modern clean-lined hotel meets out of style 80's design. Perhaps they could use more muted colors and use  pops of brown or burgendy here and there. The carpet needs to be ripped out and replaced with hwf's if possible. I could have done better AND I'm not an interior designer.

My guess is they looked at the success of the 9 and thought, "Hey, let's do that, too."  It works there because the building really is from that era.

 

You're right.  When I saw this I instantly thought this looks similar (but not as nice) in design to the rooms at the 9.  Did a quick google search of the Westin and they went with the wood and warm color palette too.  I'm not a fan of the Westin room design, and this Hilton room looks to be very similar.

 

http://www.westincleveland.com/rooms/traditional-guest-room

I see what you're saying about the color palette, but the 9 has brighter wall colors, which I think makes a difference. I can't point to what exactly sets me off with the Hilton rooms, maybe it's the wallpaper / paint whatever that is on the TV wall, maybe it's the dark colors all around, maybe it's the counter style desk, or maybe it's those awful awful chairs, which remind me of the chairs in my dentist's office as a kid. The whole concept reminds me of my basement in Staten Island growing up in the late 70's.

I just drove past this on the way to work this morning. They completed more of the facade on the southern-facing wall (facing the Medical Mart). It appears that the entire wall will just be ugly concrete. No windows, or anything. No wonder they never showed that side of the building in any of the renderings. How disappointing.