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CNN is reporting that the incident scene on the OSU campus is now secure.

 

OSU President Michael Drake is expected to hold a press conference later this afternoon.

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OSU President Michael Drake held a press conference that cleared up much of this morning's incident.  I haven't come across a postable video of the press conference - which is too bad, because it was an excellent collaborative conference starting with President Drake, and then moving onto the OSU safety director, the OSU Hospital Chief Medical Officer, the OSU Chief of Police, Columbus Mayor Andy Ginther, and Columbus Chief of Police Kim Jacobs.

 

So here's a recap of what happened this morning:

 

At 9:52 a.m. this morning, a 20-year-old local Somali man drove his car from College Road (a public street running thru the campus) onto a sidewalk outside of Watts Hall at the corner of W. 19th St. and College Road.  The car hit of number of pedestrians and came to a halt at a bike rack.  The driver then exited his car with an 8-inch long butcher knife and started stabbing at people outside the building.

 

Within one minute of the initial crash, an armed OSU Police officer arrived at the scene.  The OSU officer ordered the man with the knife to surrender.  The man did not comply and was shot and killed at the scene.

 

And that was apparently the end of the incident.  The campus went into lockdown because of an "active shooter report" due to the shots fired at the scene.  But there was only the one suspect, and he was armed with only the knife.  OSU and Columbus police still searched surrounding buildings and parking garages out of an abundance of caution.  Classes on campus were also cancelled for the remainder of the day and will resume tomorrow.

 

Nine people were injured during the incident.  Some when they were hit by the suspect's car and some with knife wounds.  The nine victims were transported to three different hospitals.  8 of the 9 victims are now in stable condition, one is still in critical condition.

 


CONTINUING COVERAGE OF THE INCIDENT:

 

CNN  --  Ohio State University: Suspect killed, 9 hospitalized after campus attack:  http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/28/us/ohio-state-university-active-shooter/

 

WBNS 10TV -- Attack at Ohio State campus: 9 injured, suspect killed by police:  http://www.10tv.com/article/attack-ohio-state-campus-suspect-dead-active-shooter-previously-reported

 

COLUMBUS DISPATCH -- Ohio State attack: Suspect struck pedestrians with car, then stabbed victims:  http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/11/28/active-shooter.html

Unfortunately the real-time reporting of this incident was ridiculous.  I listened on the radio to a reporter interview a student who simply repeated random texts and twitter posts, none of which turned out to be accurate.  At one point this morning the misreport on this kid's twitter feed of a machete made it all the way to The Drudge Report. 

 

Great example of how Twitter and phones are making reporting more and more inaccurate.  For whatever reason people trust the retweeted falsehood of an unknown "peer" on Twitter as opposed to their own observations. 

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OSU President Michael Drake held a press conference that cleared up much of this morning's incident.  I haven't come across a postable video of the press conference - which is too bad, because it was an excellent collaborative conference starting with President Drake, and then moving onto the OSU safety director, the OSU Hospital Chief Medical Officer, the OSU Chief of Police, Columbus Mayor Andy Ginther, and Columbus Chief of Police Kim Jacobs.

 

I came across a video of that press conference from the later in the morning on the day of the incident:

 

Ohio State's new safety director earns high marks after attack on campus

By Mary Mogan Edwards, The Columbus Dispatch

Updated: December 29, 2016 - 6:46 AM

 

Monica Moll knew she would have to hit the ground running when she started her new job as safety director for Ohio State University on Oct. 29.  A crazy presidential-campaign season was ending with campus demonstrations and protests.  A successful football season was in full swing with a night game at home against Nebraska on Nov. 5 and The Game against Michigan a few weeks later, both of which brought their own special law-enforcement challenges.

 

She didn't expect, though, to be standing before 11 TV cameras and a roomful of local and regional reporters barely a month into the job, explaining a violent attack on campus that sent nine people to the hospital and drew worldwide attention.

 

It was unexpected, but Moll was not unprepared.  In the aftermath of the Nov. 28 attack in which Abdul Razak Ali Artan, a third-year transfer student, drove his car into a crowd in front of Watts Hall and then began slashing at people with a butcher knife, Moll and the OSU police department got high marks from colleagues and observers for effectively handling the crisis, down to Moll's steely-calm demeanor at news briefings.

 

Artan was shot and killed almost instantly by OSU police officer Alan Horujko, who happened to be on the scene after responding to an unrelated call.  But as "officer in trouble" and "shots fired" calls were coming in to the university's police communication center, no one knew right away what they were dealing with.

 

MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/12/28/ohio-states-new-safety-director-earns-high-marks-after-attack.html

Columbus to hire 7 workers for police body cameras

By Rick Rouan, The Columbus Dispatch

Updated: November 24, 2016 - 12:48 PM

 

Columbus already has started hiring new employees to help it deal with an anticipated spike in public records requests and evidence for prosecutors as it rolls out body cameras to its police force.

 

Mayor Andrew J. Ginther's proposed budget for 2017 includes seven new hires that all stem from his plan to outfit 1,432 officers with the cameras starting as soon as this year.  Most of the city's cost for the cameras will show up this spring in the capital budget, where money will be earmarked to buy cameras and other equipment.

 

But the city also needs additional staff members to review camera footage, process requests for public records and provide technical support, said Joe Lombardi, the city's finance director.

 

MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/11/24/1-columbus-to-hire-7-workers-for-police-body-cameras.html

Columbus moves forward with police body cameras, picks vendor

By Rick Rouan, The Columbus Dispatch

Updated: December 1, 2016 at 11:04 AM

 

Columbus has chosen a supplier for body cameras for police, leaving a month for the administration of Mayor Andrew J. Ginther to fulfill his campaign promise to outfit some officers with cameras before the end of 2016.

 

The city council will consider an ordinance Monday to enter into a contract with Watch Guard Video, based in Allen, Texas.  Watch Guard was selected from a pool of 12 vendor proposals.  The contract cannot be finalized without the council's approval.

 

MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/11/30/columbus-moves-forward-with-police-body-cameras-picks-vendor.html

City Council approves $9 million contract for police body cameras

By Mark Ferenchik, The Columbus Dispatch

Updated: Updated Dec 6, 2016 at 11:29 AM

 

The Columbus City Council approved a contract Monday night with a Texas company to provide body cameras for police officers, costing the city about $9.1 million over five years.

 

MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/12/05/city-council-approves-9-million-contract-for-police-body-cameras.html

First Columbus police officers equipped with body cameras

By Rick Rouan, The Columbus Dispatch

Posted: December 30, 2016 - 2:51 PM

 

A small group of Columbus police officers are the first in the department to wear body cameras that will record their interactions with the public.  The city distributed the cameras to 12 officers in its traffic division, the first group in an eight-phase plan to equip 1,432 officers.  Cameras will record all "enforcement actions" police take, which should cover most public interactions, Columbus Police Chief Kim Jacobs said at a news conference Thursday.

 

It's unclear how long it will take to equip every officer with a camera, and the city still has to figure out several key pieces to the program, including how much camera data it will have to store.  Some police substations also need fiber optic cable extended to them so the data can be uploaded, and the city likely will need to hire more personnel to deal with public records requests for video.

 

"We'll continue to work on this aggressively," Mayor Andrew J. Ginther said, adding that the city wants to deploy cameras to all officers "as quickly as possible."  By the end of January, about 70 officers should have cameras, Jacobs said.  The second wave will go out in the spring, after the city has extended fiber to its remaining substations.

 

MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/news/20161230/first-columbus-police-officers-equipped-with-body-cameras

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Some policing and crime-fighting news from Mayor Ginther's State of the City address yesterday:

 

Ginther, protesters differ over neighborhood enforcement blitzes

By Rick Rouan, The Columbus Dispatch

Updated: February 24, 2017 - 5:51 AM

 

Mayor Andrew J. Ginther and a group of protesters outside his second State of the City address laid out competing visions for Columbus on Thursday night.  Ginther said "every resident, on every street, in every neighborhood deserves to be safe," as he rolled out a plan to make the enforcement blitz that police have used to target high-crime neighborhoods during the summer a year-round effort.  But protesters said that initiative has increased the danger for black residents in those neighborhoods and pointed to the fatal undercover police shooting of 23-year-old Henry Green in Linden last summer.

 

"We have re-evaluated the community safety initiative, helping it evolve to meet community expectations while continuing to make neighborhoods safe," Ginther said.  The mayor said the initiative would become a year-round plan that uses officers to target gun violence, juvenile crime and people with felony warrants.  Police will use crime data to determine where to send officers, rather than targeting specific neighborhoods ... and the enforcement blitz will no longer focus on drugs, as it has in the past.

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Other public-safety news for 2017 from the speech:

  • Columbus Police will launch a voluntary civilian patrol this year in South Linden, where volunteers will receive vests and radios to alert police to neighborhood crime.

  • By the end of the year, about 500 police officers should have body cameras.  About 1,500 officers eventually will wear body cameras.  The city is spending about $10 million this year on the rollout.

  • Ginther also announced that Police Chief Kim Jacobs has accepted a five-year contract extension.  Jacobs' current five-year contract expires in April.

MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/news/20170224/ginther-protesters-differ-over-neighborhood-enforcement-blitzes

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The Columbus State Community College cancelled classes at their downtown campus for the remainder of the day after a report of a man with a gun.  Police received a 911 call this morning about a man with a gun at the Center for Technology and Learning building that is along Cleveland Avenue at the edge of the campus.  Police searched the building and did not find a gun.  No shots are believed to have been fired, but Columbus State decided to end classes for the day "out of an abundance of caution".

 

Updates at the two links below:

 

http://www.dispatch.com/news/20170308/columbus-state-closes-campus-after-report-of-man-with-gun

 

http://nbc4i.com/2017/03/08/police-responding-after-report-of-a-man-with-a-gun-at-columbus-state-community-college/

The Columbus State Community College cancelled classes at their downtown campus for the remainder of the day after a report of a man with a gun.  Police received a 911 call this morning about a man with a gun at the Center for Technology and Learning building that is along Cleveland Avenue at the edge of the campus.  Police searched the building and did not find a gun.  No shots are believed to have been fired, but Columbus State decided to end classes for the day "out of an abundance of caution".

 

Updates at the two links below:

 

http://www.dispatch.com/news/20170308/columbus-state-closes-campus-after-report-of-man-with-gun

 

http://nbc4i.com/2017/03/08/police-responding-after-report-of-a-man-with-a-gun-at-columbus-state-community-college/

 

An arrest was made yesterday on Wednesday's gun incident.  According the below linked Dispatch article, an 18-year-old Powell man faces charges after pulling a gun on a student in a hallway of the Technology and Learning building on the Columbus State Community College campus.  The suspect, who is not a Columbus State student, is due in court on Friday on these charges.

 

According to court affidavit, the suspect was waiting outside a classroom for a student who was taking a test in the Technology and Learning building.  When the student came out of the classroom, the suspect pulled a .22-caliber handgun from his pocket, then threw a punch at the student and tried to fight him, causing bruises on the student's arms.  The student has a female classmate who has a relationship with the suspect, according to court affidavit.

 

http://www.dispatch.com/news/20170309/powell-man-faces-charges-in-columbus-state-gun-incident

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An end of a crime era for Columbus.  The last of 19 gang members in the 'Short North Posse' was sentenced yesterday in Federal Court in Columbus.  A 20th died in prison before he could be tried.  These convictions are a result of Columbus and Federal police agencies going after this gang from 2005 to 2010.

 

Although the Short North Posse took its name from the now trendy area along High Street north of Downtown, the gang's base was actually in the Weinland Park neighborhood to the northeast.  Since 2010, the Weinland Park neighborhood has been making a comeback through redevelopment and programs attracting younger homebuyers.

 

Below is the article link about this latest conviction and the list of total convictions bought by federal prosecutors since 2014:

 

http://www.dispatch.com/news/20170327/last-short-north-posse-defendant-sentenced-to-prison

 

http://www.dispatch.com/news/20170327/list--end-of-short-north-posse

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Video of this incident at the 10TV link.  The action of this one officer is bad enough, but it turns out that this same officer was also involved in a fatal shooting in the same neighborhood last summer.

 

Video shows Columbus police officer kicking man in the head

UPDATED: 04/11/17 12:21 PM EDT

 

The Columbus police department has identified the officer caught on video kicking a suspect while on the ground and 10TV has learned the officer is one of the men involved in last summer’s shooting death of Henry Green.

 

Officer Zachary Rosen is under investigation for his actions over the weekend involving a handcuffed suspect.  The entire incident was caught on camera.

 

Just last month, a grand jury cleared Officer Rosen of charges in the shooting death of 23-year-old Henry Green.

 

Police have released the following statement: "Officer Zachary Rosen is under investigation for his actions that took place involving a suspect under arrest on Saturday, April 8, 2017.  Officer Rosen has been reassigned to a non-patrol duty indefinitely."

 

MORE: http://www.10tv.com/article/video-shows-columbus-police-officer-kicking-man-head

Wow that anchor is frightening. 

Wow that anchor is frightening. 

 

Well, since you live in the land that made Bruce Drennan a star, I'll take that Jerry Revish opinion with a grain of salt!

9 shot at Columbus club, police say

 

COLUMBUS, Ohio - Nine people were shot early Sunday at a Columbus after-hours club, police said.

 

The shooting happened about 3:20 a.m. at the J&R Party Hall in Columbus's South Linden neighborhood, according to a post on the Columbus police department's Facebook page. Shots rang out from inside the club during an argument, the Columbus Dispatch reports.

 

Five female victims and four male victims were injured in the shooting, police said. Their injuries range from minor to life-threatening.

 

Seven of the victims were taken to the OhioHealth Grant Medical Center for treatment, and two were listed in critical condition as of 6:30 a.m., the Dispatch reports. All of the other victims are in stable condition.

 

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/04/9_shot_at_columbus_club_police.html#incart_river_home

Sounds like some hood s##t, like Cameo in Cincinnati.

"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

These after hours clubs are a blight. The city has had previous success shutting down ones on the Near East Side, hope they can turn the same attention to Linden.

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Lincoln S. Rutledge, 45, was convicted of purposely killing Columbus Police Officer Steven Smith during a SWAT standoff after barricading himself inside his Clintonville apartment on April 10, 2016.

 

A Franklin County jury returned verdicts that made the officer’s killer eligible for the death penalty.  Jurors will return on Monday for a hearing at which the defense will present mitigating factors in hopes of convincing them to recommend a life sentence rather than death:

 

http://www.dispatch.com/news/20170622/rutledge-convicted-of-purposely-killing-officer-death-penalty-option-for-jury

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Court strikes down law limiting cities’ use of red-light cameras

 

The Ohio Supreme Court today ruled 5-2 that the state’s restrictions on how cities use red-light cameras are unconstitutional.

 

The law, Senate Bill 342, required, among other things, that cities, townships and counties that want to utilize red-light cameras must have an officer present at each camera — a provision that made it financially unfeasible for most local entities to use the cameras.

 

The case is based on a challenge by the City of Dayton, though other cities, including Columbus, Akron and Toledo, also had challenged the law with similar lawsuits.  Before dismantling the program, Columbus had 44 cameras positioned at 38 intersections.

 

MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/news/20170726/court-strikes-down-law-limiting-cities-use-of-red-light-cameras

  • 2 weeks later...

Seventh homicide this year investigated at Wedgewood Village Apartments

 

COLUMBUS (WCMH) — The Wedgewood Village Apartment complex on the west side of the city is averaging about one homicide a month. So far this year, there have been seven homicides investigated in that area.

 

Most recently on Friday, police responded to a report of shots fired on Doulton Court. Inside an apartment building, officers found 22-year-old Cody Nichols lying in the hallway, suffering from a gunshot wound. Nichols was pronounced dead at 2:10am.

 

http://nbc4i.com/2017/08/04/seventh-homicide-this-year-investigated-at-wedgewood-village-apartments/

City fires officer accused of stomping on suspect:  http://www.dispatch.com/news/20170710/city-fires-officer-accused-of-stomping-on-suspect

 


Previous post on the incident he was fired for is at https://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,7428.msg848827.html#msg848827

 

Did anyone think the FOP would just accept this firing?  Nope.  They've issued a symbolic vote of no confidence to Mayor Andrew Ginther, City Council President Zach Klein and Public Safety Director Ned Pettus:

 

http://www.dispatch.com/news/20170811/columbus-police-union-votes-no-confidence-in-ginther-klein-pettus

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So Columbus is up to 111 murders already per today's Dispatch. When we had 106 all of last year...what is it? The opioid epidemic? Damn. We are on course for over 130.

 

At this rate the city will end up with the most murders in over 20 years.

^We had no winter

^We had no winter

 

Well a number of places had no winter and they are actually down from last year. I think it is more than that(although yeah, mild winters usually lead to more crime I do agree in theory).

^We had no winter

 

Well a number of places had no winter and they are actually down from last year. I think it is more than that(although yeah, mild winters usually lead to more crime I do agree in theory).

 

Columbus has long been know as a crossroads for the drug trade among other things.  There was a mysterious murder just this afternoon on second that just screams drugs.  A man found dead in the doorway of a home, cars with Florida plates, do the math.  As a matter of fact rapper Cam'ron has a song entitled "I Used To Get It In Ohio" the video was filmed in Columbus, not the only time he mentions the state.  He also used to own a nightclub in Ohio, although I believe he still does have some affiliation.  A lot of the drugs that enter the east coast come from Columbus. 

 

 

Same with a lot of the drugs that enter our smaller communities.  Every time there is a drug arrest in eastern Ohio the Steubenville and Wheeling, WV area; it's always someone from Cleveland or Columbus, with the majority coming from Cleveland.  To the average citizen that is paying attention to these things, it's very easy to connect the dots.

 

 

I only know these things because I do listen to the music and have often looked into why Cam'ron was giving shoutouts to Ohio in his songs.  Not in any way blaming them for what is going on because Cardinal Health is just as responsible.  But people that traffic drugs literally do get a lot of them from our state or it is at minimum a stopping or transfer point to places such as NYC and Chicago from the south.

 

 

 

 

Video:

 

 

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Camron-get-it-in-ohio-lyrics

 

 

Video for "Down & Out" is a prelude to the above song:

 

 

Wu-Tang running guns from Steubenville to NYC: http://nypost.com/1999/01/24/wu-tang-rappers-eyed-in-fed-weapons-probe/

 

 

Wu-Tang & Ohio connection: http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?96880-Steubenville-guy-remembers-RZA-Ghost-ODB

 

 

 

 

^^ Well why the big jump? This did not start this year...why had we been coasting at 95-105 for years and now we are heading to our highest total in 25 years? What happened to make this year so different? What was the turning point? I do believe it is the drug issue and the Opioid problem, but why did the homicide rate explode this year? That is all I was wondering about.

 

Maybe it is a combination of an unusual number of double murders, the mild winter, plus some other factors related to the drug trade that I am not aware of?

I think initially the heroin thing wasn't violent, but once a ton of people started dying from tiny bits of fentanyl rather than just ODing on the heroin itself people wanted revenge.

I think initially the heroin thing wasn't violent, but once a ton of people started dying from tiny bits of fentanyl rather than just ODing on the heroin itself people wanted revenge.

 

I think a lot of actual gangs have become involved as well which has lead to the market becoming tighter and these may be turf wars.  I'm not an expert by any means but I watch or ready the news every day even when traveling and it seems to me that there are a high number of drive-bys which just screams turf war. 

I think initially the heroin thing wasn't violent, but once a ton of people started dying from tiny bits of fentanyl rather than just ODing on the heroin itself people wanted revenge.

I think initially the heroin thing wasn't violent, but once a ton of people started dying from tiny bits of fentanyl rather than just ODing on the heroin itself people wanted revenge.

 

I think a lot of actual gangs have become involved as well which has lead to the market becoming tighter and these may be turf wars.  I'm not an expert by any means but I watch or ready the news every day even when traveling and it seems to me that there are a high number of drive-bys which just screams turf war. 

 

I think both of these posts explain some of it. The CPD mentioned the higher number of double homicides this year, but I wonder if actual non-fatal shootings are up as well-I have not found the stats for that. It does seem like everything has ratcheted up now, as if Cbus is sort of 'catching up' to some other areas. I have watched Indy's murder rate skyrocket over the last few years compared to that of Cbus and wondered what was the difference between us and them? Well maybe we just needed time to catch up and have the same factors get to the same levels.

 

We really need to try to do something about this opioid epidemic-the city does not need this-nobody does.  I haven't a clue what the answers are though I admit.

I think initially the heroin thing wasn't violent, but once a ton of people started dying from tiny bits of fentanyl rather than just ODing on the heroin itself people wanted revenge.

I think initially the heroin thing wasn't violent, but once a ton of people started dying from tiny bits of fentanyl rather than just ODing on the heroin itself people wanted revenge.

 

I think a lot of actual gangs have become involved as well which has lead to the market becoming tighter and these may be turf wars.  I'm not an expert by any means but I watch or ready the news every day even when traveling and it seems to me that there are a high number of drive-bys which just screams turf war. 

 

I think both of these posts explain some of it. The CPD mentioned the higher number of double homicides this year, but I wonder if actual non-fatal shootings are up as well-I have not found the stats for that. It does seem like everything has ratcheted up now, as if Cbus is sort of 'catching up' to some other areas. I have watched Indy's murder rate skyrocket over the last few years compared to that of Cbus and wondered what was the difference between us and them? Well maybe we just needed time to catch up and have the same factors get to the same levels.

 

We really need to try to do something about this opioid epidemic-the city does not need this-nobody does.  I haven't a clue what the answers are though I admit.

 

I think I would be ignorant to ignore the gentrification aspect as well.

So Columbus is up to 111 murders already per today's Dispatch. When we had 106 all of last year...what is it? The opioid epidemic? Damn. We are on course for over 130.

 

At this rate the city will end up with the most murders in over 20 years.

 

Most in 25 years now:  http://www.dispatch.com/news/20171107/city-homicides-reach-highest-level-in-25-years

 

The city reached 113 this week, which matches the homicide total for 1992.  In the article, it is noted that the highest ever homicide total for Columbus was 139 in 1991.

 

As has been noted - the current opioid epidemic has alot to do with the current jump in murders.  The previous highs in 1991 and 1992 coincided with the peak crack epidemic years in Columbus.  And those 1991-92 homicide numbers of 113 & 139 came when the Columbus population was "only" about 632,000.  The city's 2016 population is estimated at 860,090.  So on a per capita basis those early 90's numbers were even worse then this year's (even as bad as this year's are).

I think initially the heroin thing wasn't violent, but once a ton of people started dying from tiny bits of fentanyl rather than just ODing on the heroin itself people wanted revenge.

I think initially the heroin thing wasn't violent, but once a ton of people started dying from tiny bits of fentanyl rather than just ODing on the heroin itself people wanted revenge.

 

I think a lot of actual gangs have become involved as well which has lead to the market becoming tighter and these may be turf wars.  I'm not an expert by any means but I watch or ready the news every day even when traveling and it seems to me that there are a high number of drive-bys which just screams turf war. 

 

I think both of these posts explain some of it. The CPD mentioned the higher number of double homicides this year, but I wonder if actual non-fatal shootings are up as well-I have not found the stats for that. It does seem like everything has ratcheted up now, as if Cbus is sort of 'catching up' to some other areas. I have watched Indy's murder rate skyrocket over the last few years compared to that of Cbus and wondered what was the difference between us and them? Well maybe we just needed time to catch up and have the same factors get to the same levels.

 

We really need to try to do something about this opioid epidemic-the city does not need this-nobody does.  I haven't a clue what the answers are though I admit.

 

I think I would be ignorant to ignore the gentrification aspect as well.

 

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i felt bad about hitting 120-until I looked at the rates of nearby cities and also saw that Jackson, Mississippi is at 59(about half of our total)-with a population of only 169,000!

The CDoP has a loooong history of detainee abuse. The Columbus underclass gets treated like pure crap by the cops. While the Columbus underclass has an explosive reputation as compared to other cities, it's absolutely no excuse for the police not to be the better men and women they need to be. There's a lot of friction on the streets in Columbus' poorer areas and it is the CDoP job to mitigate rather than amplify it. They need to stop the contempt.

1. That's the Franklin County Sheriff's Office that is responsible for this story.

 

2.  Not a good look still as they allowed a Fetanyl OD under their watch recently as well.

 

3.  Columbus Police do need some sort of overhaul and I believe it starts at the top.

 

4.  We do need to be aware of all the crime that they do see, we are a heavy drug trafficking location and the cops have to be tough on high crime areas or else we'll turn into Chicago. 

Toddguy[/member] ,or Cleveland, which is is above 120 and less than half the population and a third of the land area of Columbus.  Any which way you slice it, it is a crappy stat to be #1 for either city!

1. That's the Franklin County Sheriff's Office that is responsible for this story.

 

 

 

Ah, I see. I didn't watch the videos initially; I just read the story.

Toddguy[/member] ,or Cleveland, which is is above 120 and less than half the population and a third of the land area of Columbus.  Any which way you slice it, it is a crappy stat to be #1 for either city!

 

Agreed!  I have watched, read and experienced part of this Heroin/Fetanyl epidemic as much as possible.  From all of that I've gathered that some believe it has reached it's peak.  Now how long that peak will last is still up for debate but I believe they said peak crack lasted for 2-5 years.  It seems as though meth lasted for about two years and then "disappeared."  My thoughts are these high numbers, particularly here in Central Ohio have peaked.  We will probably be high again next year depending on what kind of winter we have in 2018.

Does the murder rate and heroin usage/sales seem to have a direct correlation in Columbus?  I work in public safety in Cleveland and there doesn't seem to be a direct correlation with the two here.  Like anything, it isn't absolute, but the demographics of the heroin users/dealers and violent crime/murders don't seem to match up.  There has been more crossover, but it still seems like more of a Venn diagram.

 

Does the murder rate and heroin usage/sales seem to have a direct correlation in Columbus?  I work in public safety in Cleveland and there doesn't seem to be a direct correlation with the two here.  Like anything, it isn't absolute, but the demographics of the heroin users/dealers and violent crime/murders don't seem to match up.  There has been more crossover, but it still seems like more of a Venn diagram.

 

 

I would say crime in general, a significant amount of the murders have taken place in high drug areas and a lot of them seem like "turf war" scenarios.  I cannot say this for sure but if you look at where property crimes are happening and the murders, you can see a direct correlation.  And to me where property crimes are happening, drugs are being sold and used.  Columbus has long been a drop point for drugs and it honestly hasn't changed much.

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