On 2/24/2022 at 10:28 PM, Boomerang_Brian said:

The former City Works isn’t empty - it’s been the Mattlin Hyde piano store (Steinway dealership) for a bit. It moved from Eton. They seemed happy with the high visibility location. Although it is funny to see a piano store in a space clearly built out as a restaurant. 
 

Maybe they are moving into the new building?

The piano store is surely a temporary, space-filler lease situation with a temporary sign that will leave or relocate when a "real" tenant is signed  City Works is likely still paying rent. Piano store doesnt need 8,000 sq ft of (seemingly) prime restaurant space... maybe not even 800 sf.

 

Also, 3 Palms pizza restaurant at pinecrest saya "temporarily" closed, but we'll see if this is permanent. They already had reduced hours. 

 

Pinecrest will find its mix. It's not there, yet...

Edited February 27, 20223 yr by eyehrtfood

8 hours ago, eyehrtfood said:

The piano store is surely a temporary, space-filler lease situation with a temporary sign that will leave or relocate when a "real" tenant is signed  City Works is likely still paying rent. Piano store doesnt need 8,000 sq ft of (seemingly) prime restaurant space... maybe not even 800 sf.

 

Also, 3 Palms pizza restaurant at pinecrest saya "temporarily" closed, but we'll see if this is permanent. They already had reduced hours. 

 

Pinecrest will find its mix. It's not there, yet...

Cleveland likely doesn't have an equivalent to Sommerset In Michigan, Lennox in Atlanta , Aventura in Miami or even Easton in Cilumbus because the retail scene is so spread out on the east side. Beachwood, Legacy, Pinecrest and Eton etc.

 

I wonder if it is now coalescing around Pinecrest and the Woodmere Corridor along Chagrin.

 

In theory Pincrest has plenty of room to expand Ala Easton because any of those parking lots can turn into parking garages to open up more land for building expansion.

 

Not to mention Beachwood Mall struggling somewhat and this Nordstrom rumor you mention.

Do we think that with finally something big like RH Gallery that IKEA would be attracted to chagrin Highlands??

10 minutes ago, osu87 said:

Do we think that with finally something big like RH Gallery that IKEA would be attracted to chagrin Highlands??

Ikea was looking at Chagrin Highlands 20+ years ago... Then Warrensville Heights mayor Marcia Fudge pushed legislation to keep (really) big box stores out of the development. (RH will be 45K sf.) 

 

In 2018 Ikea cancelled all in the works US full size stores (avg 350K sf), including the planned Cleveland (Garfield Heights) store at Transportation Blvd and 480 - where the overpass and exits were all upgraded to handle the expected traffic - and announced stores in Nashville and Raleigh, among others. The reasoning was to focus on eCommerce business, at which they were falling behind.

 

Ikea may change course, but their current plan is on smaller urban showrooms (as small as 5K sf, up to 30K-100K) - and it's possible Cleveland may get a showroom and/or a delivery center (order online and pickup locally at a warehouse) but Ikea's big store strategy is still idle. CLE/NEO is by far the biggest US metro without an Ikea store...

 

Note: Ikea would already have a store built and running for years at Tiedeman and 480 next to the Plain Dealer building, had an EPA guy in New York state not killed the plan over alleged "wetlands" - causing them to drop plans and regroup at the Garfield Heights site 

 

 

 

 

11 hours ago, eyehrtfood said:

Ikea was looking at Chagrin Highlands 20+ years ago... Then Warrensville Heights mayor Marcia Fudge pushed legislation to keep (really) big box stores out of the development. (RH will be 45K sf.) 

 

In 2018 Ikea cancelled all in the works US full size stores (avg 350K sf), including the planned Cleveland (Garfield Heights) store at Transportation Blvd and 480 - where the overpass and exits were all upgraded to handle the expected traffic - and announced stores in Nashville and Raleigh, among others. The reasoning was to focus on eCommerce business, at which they were falling behind.

 

Ikea may change course, but their current plan is on smaller urban showrooms (as small as 5K sf, up to 30K-100K) - and it's possible Cleveland may get a showroom and/or a delivery center (order online and pickup locally at a warehouse) but Ikea's big store strategy is still idle. CLE/NEO is by far the biggest US metro without an Ikea store...

 

Note: Ikea would already have a store built and running for years at Tiedeman and 480 next to the Plain Dealer building, had an EPA guy in New York state not killed the plan over alleged "wetlands" - causing them to drop plans and regroup at the Garfield Heights site 

 

 

 

 

 

What is it with inner ring mayors?  Maple Heights passed laws limiting warehousing and opposed the intermodal terminal.

11 hours ago, E Rocc said:

 

What is it with inner ring mayors?  Maple Heights passed laws limiting warehousing and opposed the intermodal terminal.

Well considering Chagrin Highlands was supposed to be a huge modern office park bringing in thousands of tax paying white collar jobs, I could see them not wanting to settle for considerably lower wage paying retail positions and associated lower tax income.  

 

In the end, we ended up with that anyway.

So 3 palms at Pinecrest which was temporarily closed is now permanently closed. Are there any plans for a hot chicken takeover in Pinecrest it seems like that would be a perfect spot

Wasn’t sure which forum to put it into so I put it in the Cleveland one and here but over Eton Chagrin Boulevard in the old Lucky brand jeans spot between Barnes & Noble and Eileen Fisher,  Evereve opened up

Always good PR and great for business to have to do something like this... but just the continuing evolution of the east side. 

 

Pinecrest is limiting under-18s (though must admit even my daughter who works at Pinecrest knew little about the later-in-evsning issues occurring... bit we all do now...)

 

 

 

ORANGE VILLAGE, Ohio — Pinecrest is putting new restrictions on children 17 years old and younger, requiring they be accompanied by a parent or an adult 25 or older after 4 p.m.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2022/05/pinecrest-in-orange-institutes-new-rules-for-children-17-and-under.html

Edited May 26, 20223 yr by eyehrtfood

Brilliant Earth and FreePeopleMovement now opened. They are also working on Kitchen Social 

What are they building behind Starbucks over at Eton???

41 minutes ago, osu87 said:

What are they building behind Starbucks over at Eton???

Bank

5 hours ago, eyehrtfood said:

Bank

😑 

That new restaurant our kitchen social at Pinecrest, every time I have tried to get in there it’s packed today especially was unbelievable how packed they were; they certainly have created a great vibe there and have been a wonderful replacement for NextDoorEatery

12 hours ago, osu87 said:

That new restaurant our kitchen social at Pinecrest, every time I have tried to get in there it’s packed today especially was unbelievable how packed they were; they certainly have created a great vibe there and have been a wonderful replacement for NextDoorEatery

At brunch at Kitchen Social right now. 75 min wait 30 mins after opening. Great place (grabbed a seat at the bar...).. Food has been great on our 4- 5 visits and at almost give-away pricing for such delicious and quality dishes. The Moroccan spiced eggplant meatballs are one of the best dishes in town. Any town. 

 

Server just said, "there's a line out the door at opening every day" - to get opening, non-reservations tables. 

 

Note: in person or via phone reservations only. How un-2022.

 

Edited August 28, 20222 yr by eyehrtfood

Pinecrest: the former Slyman's/Red Robin on the perimeter of Pinecrest has now been demolished and work on the huge new $20MM Restoration Hardware / RH Gallery showroom and restaurant - nearly 50,000 sf - is beginning.  More here from past article:

 

https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/news/local_news/rh-showroom-proposed-for-chagrin-highlands/article_efb1fd22-93ee-11ec-b4c1-bf5c06b969e2.html

^ That was quick. I was at Pinecrest Saturday and I could’ve sworn it was still standing!! 

Very unfortunate they go the route of tearing down a building that was seemingly just built. When are these developers going to be held accountable for their negative impact on our environment. Was there really no other location in that area where the RH building could have gone? I have to guess there was nothing special about the Slyman's location, but the impact on the climate to make the parts for it, then the energy to actually build it, then the energy and removal and dumping of the ised materials, is an unbelievable waste of our precious resources.

 

That is my rant for the day. Monday's have this way with me. 

On 8/29/2022 at 7:13 PM, scg80 said:

Very unfortunate they go the route of tearing down a building that was seemingly just built. When are these developers going to be held accountable for their negative impact on our environment. Was there really no other location in that area where the RH building could have gone? I have to guess there was nothing special about the Slyman's location, but the impact on the climate to make the parts for it, then the energy to actually build it, then the energy and removal and dumping of the ised materials, is an unbelievable waste of our precious resources.

 

That is my rant for the day. Monday's have this way with me. 

It was not a recently built building, it was the old Red Robin before it.

Site prep has begun in the Pinecrest parking lot near REI and West Elm.  According to the Orange Village Planning & Zoning minutes, this will be a freestanding Fidelity Investments location.  It will relocate from Eton to Pinecrest.  Fidelity also has a small office space on the second floor of Eton Tower, which I assume will also be moving.

 

Crocker Park has a very visible freestanding Fidelity location, so this move makes sense (although it's interesting that both Fidelity and Charles Schwab will now be next to one another).  Interested to see what new tenant will take its place at Eton.  It's in a prime location and Fidelity has been there forever.

 

ErieBank is also now open at Eton West End.

Edited January 11, 20232 yr by SgtBarone

After 3 years Kona Grill is returning to it’s same spot in Columbus, The new management group has said it plans nationwide growth for Kona, which was originally on Pinecrest’s plans. I wonder if Kona Grill will set up somewhere in Cleveland??

A new Pinecrest leasing map and site plan was just published this past week at this link:

 

https://shopcompanies.com/properties/pdf/pinecrest?f=site_plan

 

Among those apprently joining the development - based on this map and/or confirmation from retailers' websites:

 

Allen Edmonds (currently at Eton), womens' clothing stores Aerie and Offline  (first in the area?) - both from American Eagle - and Heartwood Coffee Roasters, the gourmet coffee store now in Chagrin Falls and Hudson.

 

The Last Page restaurant' s "The Last Bar" is still listed as coming - as well as the Chicago based Lao Sze Chaun restaurant.

 

The above mentioned Fidelity Investments building - and a new 4 tenant building near the main traffic circle are also visible on the linked map.

 

Adjacent to Pinecrest, construction on the the RH / Restoration Hardware 3 story, 45,000 sf mansion / restaurant / store appears to have topped out - and would seem to be on track for a 2nd half 2023 opening.

 

 

11 hours ago, eyehrtfood said:

A new Pinecrest leasing map and site plan was just published this past week at this link:

 

https://shopcompanies.com/properties/pdf/pinecrest?f=site_plan

 

Among those apprently joining the development - based on this map and/or confirmation from retailers' websites:

 

Allen Edmonds (currently at Eton), womens' clothing stores Aerie and Offline  (first in the area?) - both from American Eagle - and Heartwood Coffee Roasters, the gourmet coffee store now in Chagrin Falls and Hudson.

 

The Last Page restaurant' s "The Last Bar" is still listed as coming - as well as the Chicago based Lao Sze Chaun restaurant.

 

The above mentioned Fidelity Investments building - and a new 4 tenant building near the main traffic circle are also visible on the linked map.

 

Adjacent to Pinecrest, construction on the the RH / Restoration Hardware 3 story, 45,000 sf mansion / restaurant / store appears to have topped out - and would seem to be on track for a 2nd half 2023 opening.

 

 

And information how/if RH will be connected to the rest of Pinecrest with some sort of pedestrian walkway?

1 hour ago, Htsguy said:

And information how/if RH will be connected to the rest of Pinecrest with some sort of pedestrian walkway?

I would be surprised if it is, based on others I’ve seen.  For example, the one at Oakbrook Center in Chicago is just out in the parking lot amidst a sea of cars.

is there a top floor/roof restaurant up on rh as on some other rh shops?

15 minutes ago, JohnSummit said:

I would be surprised if it is, based on others I’ve seen.  For example, the one at Oakbrook Center in Chicago is just out in the parking lot amidst a sea of cars.

 

Not sure if Pinecrest's RH is technically part of the "Pinecrest" development or just using the name "Pinecrest" for locational awareness - and that could play into walkway or not. 

34 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

is there a top floor/roof restaurant up on rh as on some other rh shops?

 

Yes and likely will be a new "live fire" concept they are switching to that is different than most current RH restaurants. 

 

https://sf.eater.com/2022/5/12/23068752/restoration-hardware-restaurant-san-francisco-open-menu

 

Edited February 1, 20232 yr by eyehrtfood

Nice to have another Aerie on the east side (only other one is at Aurora Farms).  This and OFFLINE will both do well at Pinecrest.

On 2/1/2023 at 7:22 AM, eyehrtfood said:

 

Yes and likely will be a new "live fire" concept they are switching to that is different than most current RH restaurants. 

 

https://sf.eater.com/2022/5/12/23068752/restoration-hardware-restaurant-san-francisco-open-menu

 

I work in gourmet food and The Palm Court at RH San Francisco is one of my biggest customers along with their sister restaurant in NYC. I spend a lot of time at the SF location. I’ve been told that most, if not all, of the upcoming RH openings will have the live fire component. 

So in the area behind Pinecrest, where there was parking in between where the new Rh Gallery will be they started putting up some steel support for I guess their expansion

On 3/24/2023 at 2:12 PM, osu87 said:

So in the area behind Pinecrest, where there was parking in between where the new Rh Gallery will be they started putting up some steel support for I guess their expansion

Nothing exciting, just a Fidelity Investments office moving from Eton.

The Peleton store has closed - along with other recent Peleton closings in Cincinnati and elsewhere dldue to their financial woes and strategy change. 

 

Lululemon looking at moving from Eton to the former 3 Palms restaurant space on main traffic circle- to join the numerous other athletic clothing stores. A big draw. 

 

A hotel - presumably with Retail underneath - being planned for western middle space off main traffic circle opposite Warby Parker.

 

Fancy 8,000+ sf Lao Sze Chuan Chinese restaurant opening early August in former City Works space.

 

Offline and Aerie stores from American Eagle under construction on main Park Ave street. 

 

Allen Edmonds, moved from Eton, opened in June. 

 

50,000 sf RH Gallery and restaurant perhaps halfway complete on former Slymans/Red Robin spot - wonder if this is a Q4 2923 or early 2024 opening based on progress status. 

50 minutes ago, eyehrtfood said:

The Peleton store has closed - along with other recent Peleton closings in Cincinnati and elsewhere dldue to their financial woes and strategy change. 

 

Lululemon looking at moving from Eton to the former 3 Palms restaurant space on main traffic circle- to join the numerous other athletic clothing stores. A big draw. 

 

A hotel - presumably with Retail underneath - being planned for western middle space off main traffic circle opposite Warby Parker.

 

Fancy 8,000+ sf Lao Sze Chuan Chinese restaurant opening early August in former City Works space.

 

Offline and Aerie stores from American Eagle under construction on main Park Ave street. 

 

Allen Edmonds, moved from Eton, opened in June. 

 

50,000 sf RH Gallery and restaurant perhaps halfway complete on former Slymans/Red Robin spot - wonder if this is a Q4 2923 or early 2024 opening based on progress status. 

I wonder if free people will move over also by their other concept store there.

New leasing map posted today - first since March. Some minor updates including a Boba tea chain from Chicago, an accessory store, a potential Lululemon move from Eton (listed as apparel), the area's first Capital One Cafe, and an apparent near-doubling of the Saucy Brew Works space (confirmed via an October story about Saucy) + more. A new retail and hotel building non-stop dots the western center of development. 

 

https://shopcompanies.com/properties/pdf/pinecrest?f=site_plan

Edited November 10, 20231 yr by eyehrtfood

5 hours ago, eyehrtfood said:

New leasing map posted today - first since March. Some minor updates including a Boba tea chain from Chicago, an accessory store, a potential Lululemon move from Eton (listed as apparel), the area's first Capital One Cafe, and an apparent near-doubling of the Saucy Brew Works space (confirmed via an October story about Saucy) + more. A new retail and hotel building non-stop dots the western center of development. 

 

https://shopcompanies.com/properties/pdf/pinecrest?f=site_plan

I love Boba Tea 😀. Is free people new concept taking the old peloton to double??? 

On 11/9/2023 at 11:08 PM, osu87 said:

I love Boba Tea 😀. Is free people new concept taking the old peloton to double??? 

Maybe it's a typo and Free People is moving from Eton to join FP Movement.

The opening of the 50,000-ish square foot RH / Restoration Hardware mansion showroom and restaurant at Pinecrest has been pushed back from Fall 2023 to Winter 2024. 

 

Construction work ongoing 6-7 days a week and job interviews available throughout December. (6-figure salaries advertised for several restaurant jobs If anyone qualified and looking...)

 

Here's a rendering of the revised look of the Pinecrest RH mansion... with a new white exterior color vs the original grey planned

On 11/19/2023 at 11:58 PM, eyehrtfood said:

The opening of the 50,000-ish square foot RH / Restoration Hardware mansion showroom and restaurant at Pinecrest has been pushed back from Fall 2023 to Winter 2024. 

 

Construction work ongoing 6-7 days a week and job interviews available throughout December. (6-figure salaries advertised for several restaurant jobs If anyone qualified and looking...)

 

Here's a rendering of the revised look of the Pinecrest RH mansion... with a new white exterior color vs the original grey planned

March 23 opening date set

On 11/17/2023 at 4:04 PM, SgtBarone said:

Maybe it's a typo and Free People is moving from Eton to join FP Movement.

 

aah so this is why we are getting free people ad cards in the mail again. they went away, but have revamped themselves and made a comeback. ok.

On 3/7/2024 at 9:25 PM, osu87 said:

March 23 opening date set

 

i dont see it up on the rh website as yet, but maybe someone can get pics after it opens? not expecting date palms like the sf location, but lets hope it’s different than the nice, but generic interior used in columbus and several other locations:

 

https://rh.com/us/en/restaurants

On 3/10/2024 at 4:32 AM, mrnyc said:

 

i dont see it up on the rh website as yet, but maybe someone can get pics after it opens? not expecting date palms like the sf location, but lets hope it’s different than the nice, but generic interior used in columbus and several other locations:

 

https://rh.com/us/en/restaurants

It looks like the restaurant is slightly different from those generic ones. There’s olive trees around the fountain area and it looks like more table like areas instead of those generic booths.

2 hours ago, osu87 said:

It looks like the restaurant is slightly different from those generic ones. There’s olive trees around the fountain area and it looks like more table like areas instead of those generic booths.

There is nothing generic about RH builds. Everything is top notch design and materials wise. I work closely with the flagship restaurants in SF and NYC and they are all about quality. 

5 hours ago, jeremyck01 said:

There is nothing generic about RH builds. Everything is top notch design and materials wise. I work closely with the flagship restaurants in SF and NYC and they are all about quality. 

I don’t think the original poster who I responded to meant lack of quality, but if you look at the restaurants on the webpage, the one in Columbus and I believe Jacksonville and maybe two others they look interchangeable like they are exactly the same is what he was talking about. I think he was just hoping that the Cleveland one would have just a little bit of a different look in the interior and it seems as it does.

12 hours ago, osu87 said:

I don’t think the original poster who I responded to meant lack of quality, but if you look at the restaurants on the webpage, the one in Columbus and I believe Jacksonville and maybe two others they look interchangeable like they are exactly the same is what he was talking about. I think he was just hoping that the Cleveland one would have just a little bit of a different look in the interior and it seems as it does.

Yeah, they definitely have a template for their non-flagship restaurants that’s similar. I like it, so I don’t mind:)

15 hours ago, jeremyck01 said:

Yeah, they definitely have a template for their non-flagship restaurants that’s similar. I like it, so I don’t mind:)

 

Yes the olive trees and fountain have been mostly consistent with recent non-flagship locations with only slight variations to seating and patterns etc.     

 

Edited March 28, 20241 yr by willyboy

On 3/10/2024 at 4:32 AM, mrnyc said:

 

i dont see it up on the rh website as yet, but maybe someone can get pics after it opens? not expecting date palms like the sf location, but lets hope it’s different than the nice, but generic interior used in columbus and several other locations:

 

https://rh.com/us/en/restaurants

Anyone been to RH Cleveland yet?? Or ate at the restaurant yet??

3 hours ago, osu87 said:

Anyone been to RH Cleveland yet?? Or ate at the restaurant yet??

Yes. Very good, if not yet great, food on day 8 of RH Rooftop Restaurant operation last Saturday night. Place was booked solid, same for the coming weekends (I tried...) - and folks really, really dressed up for dinner for once. 

 

Dinner food ranges from $8 fries, to $28ish (very good) lobster roll to $32 steak sandwich (great) to $38ish "grilled avocado with caviar" (delicious) up to, I think, $56 or so steak. Wine and beer only, no hard liquor or tradional cocktails. Butterscotch creme Brule was a highlight. Service and pacing still a bit off. Dinner for 2 w/2 drinks each and tip... $300, with no item over $40, so not cheap - but could grab sone charcuterie and wine and sit for much less, in th elegant space.  

 

If you go, perhaps avoid tables on South side of rooftop - as the view for out-facing diners (me)  is of Harvard Rd and 271 - while interior-facing diners (wife) have a beautiful view of trees and a fountain in middle of space, the star attractions. Outdoor rooftop terraces - ringed by shrubbery - will be great Summer spots with fire pits and $$$ furniture.

 

1st amd 2nd floor furniture showrooms are plentiful, oversized, and very nice. Many people milling about store with wine etc.  Open daily 10-9 

Edited April 3, 20241 yr by eyehrtfood

Pinecrest update -

 

alo Yoga - the trendy athleisure brand, is starting construction on the main traffic circle at Pinecrest, in the former 3 Palms space. 

 

And "based on the latest leasing map just published online" - Travis Mathew (men's clothing) and Tecovas (nice boots, cowboy boots, and shoes) have both signed letters of intent for two vacant spaces (Peleton and Laura of Pembroke).

 

Also, Saucy Brew Works has recently opened their expanded Pinecrest space - adding bar / seating / event space via the addition of the vacant, adjacent space to the south of their existing location. 

Edited April 23, 20241 yr by eyehrtfood

Anything new??

Mini Macy's?