11 hours ago, Sapientone said:

Mini Macy's?

I think the new Macy's urban format store (I've always thought that all department stores struggling should have shifted to this format) would do well here, Downtown (specifically in the May Co. building or on in the old Tilted Kilt space on Ontario, and in Crocker Park. 

On 7/9/2024 at 10:28 AM, MyPhoneDead said:

I think the new Macy's urban format store (I've always thought that all department stores struggling should have shifted to this format) would do well here, Downtown (specifically in the May Co. building or on in the old Tilted Kilt space on Ontario, and in Crocker Park. 

I think they are doing one in the plaza section of Crocker Park. Tilted Kilt or May would be perfect for one of these!

On 4/23/2024 at 4:08 PM, eyehrtfood said:

Pinecrest update -

 

alo Yoga - the trendy athleisure brand, is starting construction on the main traffic circle at Pinecrest, in the former 3 Palms space. 

 

And "based on the latest leasing map just published online" - Travis Mathew (men's clothing) and Tecovas (nice boots, cowboy boots, and shoes) have both signed letters of intent for two vacant spaces (Peleton and Laura of Pembroke).

 

Also, Saucy Brew Works has recently opened their expanded Pinecrest space - adding bar / seating / event space via the addition of the vacant, adjacent space to the south of their existing location. 

Was at Pinecrest Today, nothing on Capitol One Cafe, The Bubble Tea Place, Teacova or Travis Mitchell, some place called Becca Bags opened next to Vineyard Vines where Homage was. Also Brighton Collectibles has closed and Pandora is moving in. Rowan is already expandind from where they just opened over to the Laura of Pembrook Spot, No signage on old Peloton. Alo coming along.

A Pandora is opening?

 

Tell me they're not poaching it from Beachwood Place.

1 hour ago, TBideon said:

A Pandora is opening?

 

Tell me they're not poaching it from Beachwood Place.

Well I can’t answer that maybe someone else can.

If they are poaching you're expecting me to believe we can support ANOTHER lifestyle center in the region? (Brook Park). Beachwood needs to fight back.

2 hours ago, osu87 said:

Well I can’t answer that maybe someone else can.

I can't imagine they are NOT moving from the mall. 

A new Toastique the first in Ohio will open in 2025 at Pinecrest.

Growing footwear brand Tecovas and popular men's sportswear brand Travis Mathew now announced for 2025 openings. Both were on leasing map discussed here earlier in 2024.

 

Restore juice location there rumored to be closing 12/31. 

 

Also, continue to be surprised by the significant customer traffic consistently seen in the local Heartland Coffee location that opened in the past year there. Always busy, including many folks just hanging out at tables, which COVID had seemed to kill, everywhere.

i saw this --

 

 

 

Four new stores coming to Pinecrest in 2025

 

by: Talia Naquin

Posted: Dec 17, 2024

 

 

Here’s what shoppers can expect from the new additions:

 

Travis Mathew: Known for its premium men’s and women’s lifestyle apparel, Travis Mathew blends casual, active, and golf-inspired styles. The store will be located next to Pottery Barn and FP Movement.

 

Tecovas: A brand renowned for its handcrafted leather boots and accessories that combine traditional Western style with modern comfort.

 

Toastique: A woman-founded café offering gourmet toasts, smoothie bowls, and healthy dining options, opening its first Ohio location.

 

LaserAway: A leader in aesthetic treatments, specializing in laser hair removal, Botox, and skin care services, opening next to Verizon and Fount.

 

 

more:

https://fox8.com/news/four-new-stores-coming-to-pinecrest-in-2025/

I’m curious to see how Tecovas does. I was out of town recently and saw a store that was getting good foot traffic but I was in the south, and I wasn’t sure how Western wear would go over around here. 

On 12/25/2024 at 10:00 PM, coneflower said:

I’m curious to see how Tecovas does. I was out of town recently and saw a store that was getting good foot traffic but I was in the south, and I wasn’t sure how Western wear would go over around here. 

The Cleveland area has no shortage of people who identify as rural. Half of my high school class does, despite a truck they can't afford being the only "rural" thing about them. 

 

Anyways, Travis Mathew should do very well there. Toastique looks interesting. And botox/laser places are the new tanning salon. 

The residential phase of Pinecrest is moving forward and headed for design review.  Plans now include two 7-story apartment buildings plus duplexes, townhouses and single houses.  It's on the land to the east of the buildings on the east side of Orange Place, north of the now-completed commercial phase of Pinecrest, extending north almost to Chagrin Blvd.  The Walnut Hills Residences at Pinecrest will feature "large, luxurious" units, says its architect.

 

Detailed story at: 

 

https://www.cleveland.com/community/2024/12/residential-project-at-pinecrest-to-feature-large-luxurious-units-architect-says.html

34 minutes ago, Quilliam said:

The residential phase of Pinecrest is moving forward and headed for design review.  Plans now include two 7-story apartment buildings plus duplexes, townhouses and single houses.  It's on the land to the east of the buildings on the east side of Orange Place, north of the now-completed commercial phase of Pinecrest, extending north almost to Chagrin Blvd.  The Walnut Hills Residences at Pinecrest will feature "large, luxurious" units, says its architect.

 

Detailed story at: 

 

https://www.cleveland.com/community/2024/12/residential-project-at-pinecrest-to-feature-large-luxurious-units-architect-says.html

Can't see it but that's always great

Well, that's interesting... Tanger (rhymes with "hanger") the big outlet mall developer, is branching out into regular price lifestyle centers, buying Pinecrest Should be meaningful for the tenant mix and the fact they have big pockets for future building additions, etc ..

 

https://chainstoreage.com/tanger-acquires-mixed-use-center-cleveland-suburb

 

 

Cross-posted in the retail thread

 

 

I wish they would have taken over and improved the Aurora Outlets.

On 2/13/2025 at 10:54 AM, eyehrtfood said:

Well, that's interesting... Tanger (rhymes with "hanger") the big outlet mall developer, is branching out into regular price lifestyle centers, buying Pinecrest Should be meaningful for the tenant mix and the fact they have big pockets for future building additions, etc ..

 

https://chainstoreage.com/tanger-acquires-mixed-use-center-cleveland-suburb

 

 

Hope they have new to the area tenants and concepts to introduce so as not to leech from Beachwood, Legacy and Eton.  

On 12/27/2024 at 2:47 PM, Quilliam said:

The residential phase of Pinecrest is moving forward and headed for design review.  Plans now include two 7-story apartment buildings plus duplexes, townhouses and single houses.  It's on the land to the east of the buildings on the east side of Orange Place, north of the now-completed commercial phase of Pinecrest, extending north almost to Chagrin Blvd.  The Walnut Hills Residences at Pinecrest will feature "large, luxurious" units, says its architect.

 

Detailed story at: 

 

https://www.cleveland.com/community/2024/12/residential-project-at-pinecrest-to-feature-large-luxurious-units-architect-says.html

 

Honestly totally missed this until @Geowizical mentioned it, but this looks pretty major. Pinecrest could use some more residential.

 

 

Full presentation here:

https://share.bialosky.com/files/1asi52me

1 minute ago, sonisharri said:

 

Honestly totally missed this until @Geowizical mentioned it, but this looks pretty major. Pinecrest could use some more residential.

 

 

Full presentation here:

https://share.bialosky.com/files/1asi52me

So many townhomes of the same design looks like a homogenous society. I wish it was a better mix, maybe a couple 4 over 1's with condos and more retail at the bottom mixed in.

In case anyone wanted a better combined visualization of the two projects (parcels outlined in pink):

 

Also, I'm gonna reopen a can of worms and say that the remaining area south of Harvard not owned by Omni would be a perfect location for, say it with me, IKEA

 

Edited March 5Mar 5 by Geowizical

28 minutes ago, Geowizical said:

 

Also, I'm gonna reopen a can of worms and say that the remaining area south of Harvard not owned by Omni would be a perfect location for, say it with me, IKEA

 

 

Feels too far east to serve the entire market well.  I think that's why they were looking for a more central location along 480.  If Browns stadium in BP falls through, that would be better.  Also was wondering about the recently demolished former Glidden complex along 71 in Middleburg now for sale.

 

26 minutes ago, JohnSummit said:

 

Feels too far east to serve the entire market well.  I think that's why they were looking for a more central location along 480.  If Browns stadium in BP falls through, that would be better.  Also was wondering about the recently demolished former Glidden complex along 71 in Middleburg now for sale.

 

Too far east for who West siders? To far east would be Mentor. It is at the 422/271/480 split. If I can drive to Avon for Cabellas then Lorain county people can certainly drive to the split

Edited March 5Mar 5 by osu87

Yeah this site is equidistant (within 2-3 miles) of Painesville, Avon, and downtown Akron. Seems pretty central for the Cleveland CSA. But back to the actual developments...

Edited March 5Mar 5 by Geowizical

1 hour ago, JohnSummit said:

 

Feels too far east to serve the entire market well.  I think that's why they were looking for a more central location along 480.  If Browns stadium in BP falls through, that would be better.  Also was wondering about the recently demolished former Glidden complex along 71 in Middleburg now for sale.

 

 

In my experience ****s are often located pretty far out, which is usually ok because trips there are usually very occasional. I would personally visit a location at Pinecrest just to go to the restaurant. (comment censored for any off-topic Swedish furniture retailers that sell products with unpronounceable names 😉)

 

Anywaysss so who's excited for that senior residential, recreational, and shopping center on the site south of Harvard Rd? 

Edited March 5Mar 5 by sonisharri

7 minutes ago, sonisharri said:

Anywaysss so who's excited for that senior residential, recreational, and shopping center on the site south of Harvard Rd? 

 

Me (in 40 years)! 🥳

 

I tease. I've been trying to find Omni presentations or documents through city planning, etc. but am having trouble for some reason. Maybe they just aren't enough along yet but I know they've had city meetings about it within the past year so it's definitely still in the works.

Edited March 5Mar 5 by Geowizical

 

Clarification on what I was getting at over in the retail thread.

11 minutes ago, JohnSummit said:

 

Clarification on what I was getting at over in the retail thread.

They have tried to go there but couldn’t act due to Marcia Fudge when she was mayor

This has been noted here before but 25 years ago IKEA, per Crain's, was looking at Harvard and 271 and then mayor Marsha Fudge Warrensville Heights helped spearhead big box legislation that kept them from even really trying to establish a store (in Chagrin Highlands). There are plenty of markets where IKEA is non-central to the metro. 

 

With that said several locations in the area would be very good ones by IKEA though wasn't the last rumor that they were going to Richfield? 

Edited March 6Mar 6 by eyehrtfood

3 hours ago, JohnSummit said:

 

Feels too far east to serve the entire market well.  I think that's why they were looking for a more central location along 480.  If Browns stadium in BP falls through, that would be better.  Also was wondering about the recently demolished former Glidden complex along 71 in Middleburg now for sale.

 

Wait wait too far east but the alternative would be Brookpark which is about as far west as you could get. I get the 271 thing but Brookpark is FAR.

21 hours ago, MyPhoneDead said:

So many townhomes of the same design looks like a homogenous society. I wish it was a better mix, maybe a couple 4 over 1's with condos and more retail at the bottom mixed in.

I think you missed the part where it says the image is conceptual. None of the townhomes have even been designed yet. 

 

As far as the area South of Pinecrest, it's completely blanketed in wetlands. Its been looked at by countless developers of the last like 10 years. IKEA isn't building there. 

https://www.crainscleveland.com/sports-recreation/cavaliers-opening-new-team-shop-pinecrest

Pinecrest lands a major team shop

 

Go Cavs!

The 5-year vacant Bahama Breeze location, immediately across from the Pinecrest west entrance, finally appears to be ready to be redeveloped... This article describes an interesting furniture showroom / interior design space that sounds very much like an IKEA Plan & Order Point showroom - which in its most recently opened form is 15,000 sq ft in Charlotte. (If it were traditional furniture store they would have just said that, no?)

 

Though these sorts of stores generally have been opened to supplement existing,  full size IKEA stores in cities like D.C.,  Austin, and the aforementioned Charlotte, it's certainly possible that one might precede (but hopefully not replace) a larger IKEA store in Cleveland 

 

“Part of the use will be similar to RH, a showroom where you can order furniture and such, but much smaller than the RH building,” - 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cleveland.com/community/2025/03/orange-council-set-for-three-public-hearings-including-one-related-to-bahama-breeze-property.html%3foutputType=amp

 

I could be really wrong, but I can't think of another business of this type that would spend on such a high-profile location...

 

Edited March 8Mar 8 by eyehrtfood

7 hours ago, eyehrtfood said:

The 5-year vacant Bahama Breeze location, immediately across from the Pinecrest west entrance, finally appears to be ready to be redeveloped... This article describes an interesting furniture showroom / interior design space that sounds very much like an IKEA Plan & Order Point showroom - which in its most recently opened form is 15,000 sq ft in Charlotte. (If it were traditional furniture store they would have just said that, no?)

 

Though these sorts of stores generally have been opened to supplement existing,  full size IKEA stores in cities like D.C.,  Austin, and the aforementioned Charlotte, it's certainly possible that one might precede (but hopefully not replace) a larger IKEA store in Cleveland 

 

“Part of the use will be similar to RH, a showroom where you can order furniture and such, but much smaller than the RH building,” - 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cleveland.com/community/2025/03/orange-council-set-for-three-public-hearings-including-one-related-to-bahama-breeze-property.html%3foutputType=amp

 

I could be really wrong, but I can't think of another business of this type that would spend on such a high-profile location...

 

We have to start somewhere.  Even in Puerto Rico started with 3 order showrooms before adding a full size store. 

Though not mentioned in the 8 showrooms planned to open 2025 - hopefully we will be on the next list:

https://www.retailtouchpoints.com/features/news-briefs/ikea-plans-8-new-smaller-format-stores-in-2025

 

“Our strategy continues to prioritize our customer’s needs, and in fiscal year 2024, we continued to make everyday living more accessible, especially during a time when we know economic challenges are leading to a decrease in disposable income for many Americans,” said Ikea CEO and chief sustainability officer Javier Quiñones. “As we gear up for the 40th anniversary of Ikea U.S. in 2025, we’re committed to reaching even more customers where they are.”

 

The Orange 271 high-visibility location does make sense (and Avon)...Meh...though wouldn't center city better match the CEO's intent given the growth surge underway? Steelyard Commons?  Hello Team NEO (Matt 'Swing at the pitch that's coming' Dolan) and GCC this is your wake-up call - please add Javier Quiñones to your To Do List this week and educate him on the central Cleveland population surge underway.

 

 

Signs for The Canyons/Omni development taken from the bus (3-7-25)

Edited March 10Mar 10 by sonisharri

Heavy equipment on site for the housing/commercial development on the south side of Pinecrest

Is that south of Harvard or within the actual Pinecrest development?

 

Maybe answered my own question with the google machine: https://www.cleveland.com/community/2024/12/residential-project-at-pinecrest-to-feature-large-luxurious-units-architect-says.html

 

"The residential development will be located on about 20 acres between Silverspot Cinema at Pinecrest and Chagrin Boulevard."

Yay!

 

"“We’re aiming for two (parking) spaces per unit,” he said."

Oh f off!

 

Unless this is the Canyons project. I believe that is south of Harvard.

 

Edited April 21Apr 21 by TBideon

22 minutes ago, TBideon said:

Is that south of Harvard or within the actual Pinecrest development?

 

Maybe answered my own question with the google machine: https://www.cleveland.com/community/2024/12/residential-project-at-pinecrest-to-feature-large-luxurious-units-architect-says.html

 

"The residential development will be located on about 20 acres between Silverspot Cinema at Pinecrest and Chagrin Boulevard."

Yay!

 

"“We’re aiming for two (parking) spaces per unit,” he said."

Oh f off!

 

Unless this is the Canyons project. I believe that is south of Harvard.

 

Omni development site on the south side of Harvard opposite Pinecrest. If we're getting technical, these acres are the "Orange Place South Planned Development District" (heck of a mouthful). Yes urban sprawl! *sarcasm

Two different developments mentioned above.  Pinecrest residences south of Chagrin Blvd. at Walnut Hills Dr. (Near the Wendy's) and Omni next to Cooper's Hawk and the Drury Inn south of Harvard.