March 3, 20232 yr On 3/2/2023 at 12:09 PM, MyPhoneDead said: On 3/1/2023 at 7:41 PM, Agreene said: Where did all this infill come from? 🤯 I know about the timber building across from WSM but not all of the rest. I guess I need to keep up! 🙂 Edited March 3, 20232 yr by Florida Guy
March 4, 20232 yr On 3/2/2023 at 11:55 AM, Mendo said: Interesting to see the floor layout. There was talk in the Harbor Bay thread about noise between units. I see double walls between living spaces in some units, but not others (maybe it's just a walk in closet). I was curious about this too. As best I can tell the double walls are only where the kitchens are which makes me think it might be to give space for mechanicals rather than for sound proofing purposes.
March 6, 20232 yr Time for Morgan Linens to relocate!!! That site is screaming for a large Intro-style development. That would really go a long way in stitching Tremont and Ohio City back together.
March 6, 20232 yr IMHO, there is nothing wrong at all with Morgan co-existing in the neighborhood with the new Infill. There is plenty of low-density residential available for redevelopment prior to relocating an employer that still requires employees to report to their physical address.
March 6, 20232 yr Abbey Avenue Apartments (3-4-23) West 20th and Smith Townhomes Piatak Place Residences West Nineteen Townhomes Waterford Bluffs - The finished product looks better than I thought it would, definitely one of the best looking 4-over-1s in the city
March 6, 20232 yr I was curious and apparently Waterford Bluffs has 241 apartments and on their site they have 95 available. So they are about 60% leased already. That's some pretty good demand already. Wouldn't be surprised if they are fully leased this year.
March 6, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, Jenny said: IMHO, there is nothing wrong at all with Morgan co-existing in the neighborhood with the new Infill. There is plenty of low-density residential available for redevelopment prior to relocating an employer that still requires employees to report to their physical address. Exactly! Mixed use neighborhoods need mixed uses. There are employes that take the train to work and back home. Still lots of open spots to put up very large developmemnts!
March 7, 20232 yr Hear me out. We just find a developer to build 5 stories of apartments ON TOP of the Morgan buildings. Free bonus all the residents would get free dry cleaning of their linens or whatever Morgan company does lol
March 7, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, dwolfi01 said: Hear me out. We just find a developer to build 5 stories of apartments ON TOP of the Morgan buildings. Free bonus all the residents would get free dry cleaning of their linens or whatever Morgan company does lol That site will need some major cleanup if Morgan leaves. The dry cleaning biz is incredibly toxic.
March 15, 20232 yr From the Cleveland sign overlook on Abbey. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
April 10, 20232 yr On 3/6/2023 at 10:18 AM, NorthShore647 said: Waterford Bluffs - The finished product looks better than I thought it would, definitely one of the best looking 4-over-1s in the city Nice job with all the pics. I agree Waterford Bluffs does look very nice. They also did a nice job of making the non-retail having first floor look good to outsiders. The location is amazing so I can see why they are seeing good demand.
April 11, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, GREGinPARMA said: Anybody know the occupancy rates at Waterford Bluffs so far? This is in no way scientific but we know the project was 241 units and according to the leasing page of their website they have 75 available so they are close to 70% leased:
May 5, 20232 yr https://planning.clevelandohio.gov/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=4382&CASE=NW 2023-012
May 5, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, marty15 said: What’s this?! I forget who I was talking to (maybe a forumer) but it's going to be a restaurant I think? They have a Zoning Change notice out front on Columbus and have for a couple weeks now. I'm planning on going to forest city after work today I'll see if they have any more details.
May 5, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, marty15 said: What’s this?! A development in the works from the sounds of it! I think they've recently started reaching out to locals in the area/businesses. Forest City Brewery referenced it in a Facebook/Instagram post last week as it's going to remove some large trees: https://www.facebook.com/forestcitybrewery "a developer wants to cram 6 units onto 2 small lots. The usual for duck island. These three tree canopies hang over into the small lots. I order to build the 4 story, 6 units, they would have to remove the canopy, killing the trees."
May 5, 20232 yr And we’ve come full circle. Forest City brewery is now getting its trees cut down. We’ve timbered the whole city.
May 5, 20232 yr Author 36 minutes ago, GISguy said: I forget who I was talking to (maybe a forumer) but it's going to be a restaurant I think? They have a Zoning Change notice out front on Columbus and have for a couple weeks now. I'm planning on going to forest city after work today I'll see if they have any more details. I think that was me. But I was referring to 2169 Columbus. They filed this in March and I was considering it for a Seeds & Sprouts piece, but the owner never got back to me... Record B23005947: Com Building Permit Work Location 2169 Columbus RD Cleveland OH 44113 Record Details Project Description: Tremont Restaurant Existing 1 1/2 story residential single-family home to be converted into a restaurant space. New 550 square foot addition on rear of building w/covered rear dining patio. Owner: Eric Kennedy 2169 COLUMBUS RD CLEVELAND OH 44113 Design Professional information Justin Davies Anthony PAskevich & Associates 1708 Euclid Ave. CLEVELAND, OH, 44115 United States Contact Phone 216-696-0916 E-mail: [email protected] Responsible Party information Justin Davies Anthony PAskevich & Associates 1708 Euclid Ave. CLEVELAND, OH, 44115 Job Value($): $400,000.00 Number of Buildings: 1 BUILDING CODEWork Area:1902No. of Stories/Units:1Bldg Footprint (SqFt):1902Sprinklers:YesFire Alarm:NoAllowable Load Per Sq. Ft. Per Floor:100Occupant Load Per Floor:77KSQFT:2KFPSQFT:2Riser Demand:NASprinkler:NFPA 13Hazard Classification:2 Collapse Parcel Information Parcel Number: 00403009 Ward: 3 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 5, 20232 yr The plans are for the 2169 Columbus Rd. to be a breakfast place. At the Forest City Brewery building, Western Reserve Meadery is closing: https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2023/05/western-reserve-meadery-closing-its-doors.html But Ready, Set, Coffee is opening a location in the old Duck-Rabbit space: https://www.clevescene.com/food-drink/ready-set-coffee-roasters-to-open-outpost-cafe-in-duck-island-41814319
May 8, 20232 yr That just reminded me of this photo I took the other day of the West Nineteen townhomes from Train Ave:
May 19, 20232 yr Author While most of the article is about Ohio City, the article mentions Duck Island quite a bit, including the lead photo. Just now, KJP said: As Duck Island fills, Berges goes SOLO By Ken Prendergast / May 19, 2023 Don’t tell Matt Berges that new home construction in the U.S. is in a 15-month-long slump. The owner of Cleveland-based housing development firm Berges Home Performance LLC will tell you that success depends on what you’re building and where. The where in this case is the near-West Side, specifically Duck Island, a neighborhood Berges helped rebuild. But it is running out of space for more new homes, prompting the 23-year-old firm to look elsewhere to satisfy an as-yet insatiable housing demand. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/05/19/as-duck-island-fills-berges-goes-solo/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 19, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, KJP said: As Duck Island fills, Berges goes SOLO By Ken Prendergast / May 19, 2023 Don’t tell Matt Berges that new home construction in the U.S. is in a 15-month-long slump. The owner of Cleveland-based housing development firm Berges Home Performance LLC will tell you that success depends on what you’re building and where. The where in this case is the near-West Side, specifically Duck Island, a neighborhood Berges helped rebuild. But it is running out of space for more new homes, prompting the 23-year-old firm to look elsewhere to satisfy an as-yet insatiable housing demand. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/05/19/as-duck-island-fills-berges-goes-solo/ "No man's land"- that would come as a surprise to the many men (and women) who lived in Duck Island before Berges started buying up the homes they lived in and kicking them out. Honestly, Cleveland has seen very little true gentrification caused displacement, but Duck Island is one place where it was widespread.
May 19, 20232 yr Author 11 minutes ago, X said: "No man's land"- that would come as a surprise to the many men (and women) who lived in Duck Island before Berges started buying up the homes they lived in and kicking them out. Honestly, Cleveland has seen very little true gentrification caused displacement, but Duck Island is one place where it was widespread. Based on the amounts that Berges paid for those homes, I would hardly say he "kicked them out." Residents were fairly compensated and then some. And most of the demolitions he undertook were more recent. I'm sure you're well aware Doug of how much vacant land existed on Duck Island 20 years ago and, for that matter, why it was called "Duck" Island. If anyone should be held in disregard for pushing poor people out to create more vacant land, that would be the late Mafia princess Rosemary Vinci (aka Madame LaRue). "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 19, 20232 yr While Duck Island isn't exactly a hidden neighborhood anymore if you haven't visited in a year or two you will be quite surprised by the amount of (expensive) infill. It's almost built out and serves to seamlessly connect Ohio City with Tremont. Quite impressive l think. I went to the Market last Sat. and there were a lot of people walking around and what l thought was especially cool, a few dozen folks looking out from the rooftops of Intro. A real urban experience there.
May 19, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, KJP said: Based on the amounts that Berges paid for those homes, I would hardly say he "kicked them out." Residents were fairly compensated and then some. And most of the demolitions he undertook were more recent. I'm sure you're well aware Doug of how much vacant land existed on Duck Island 20 years ago and, for that matter, why it was called "Duck" Island. If anyone should be held in disregard for pushing poor people out to create more vacant land, that would be the late Mafia princess Rosemary Vinci (aka Madame LaRue). I am talking about the renters, of course. Do you think they got any compensation?
May 19, 20232 yr Author No but renters have rights too and I hope they exercised them. BTW your post is the first time I ever heard someone say something bad about Berges. From all the comments I've gotten on social media and emails from people about the article, everyone says great things about Berges. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 2, 20232 yr Post meetup pics, added bonus some brewery after dark photos haha The photo quality of these isn't great but wanted to capture how they'll get a piece of the skyline too (at least for now).
July 8, 20231 yr Abbey Ave apartments (7-8-23) It doesn’t look too bad tbhSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
July 12, 20231 yr 48 minutes ago, JohnSummit said: W. 20th and Smith Townhomes giving off some vinyl siding vibes there. I believe they’re mostly clad in actual wood siding. The sides look like 3/4 vinyl.
July 12, 20231 yr 15 hours ago, marty15 said: I believe they’re mostly clad in actual wood siding. The sides look like 3/4 vinyl. And it looks like they've planted actual shade trees along the street. Should be a nice stroll in a couple of years.
July 18, 20231 yr The smith ct townhomes are predominantly vinyl siding. It looks even cheaper when you are up close. Too bad the folks paying hundreds of thousands for these units didn't demand higher quality materials.
July 18, 20231 yr 2 hours ago, vdbl1901 said: The smith ct townhomes are predominantly vinyl siding. It looks even cheaper when you are up close. Too bad the folks paying hundreds of thousands for these units didn't demand higher quality materials. Isn't this a Horten and Harper design. I was always under the impression that vinyl siding is not a common feature of their work. Maybe the developer insisted for cost reasons. Edited July 18, 20231 yr by Htsguy
July 18, 20231 yr 59 minutes ago, Htsguy said: Isn't this a Horten and Harper design. I was always under the impression that vinyl siding is not a common feature of their work. Maybe the developer insisted for cost reasons. Only the sides and backs are vinyl. They actually look really well done up close.
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