February 6, 20241 yr 17 minutes ago, YABO713 said: Yes - I know I'm one of the few conservatives on here so I'll gladly call it what it is - reactionary, virtue signaling BS. Not to mention the fact that one of them lives in a beautiful home on a double lot and put up a privacy fence "because the neighbors are a little rough" and drives a $120,000 car... The biggest issue is that "usable land is going to the 1% when it could be used as an addition to the park or bikeway" (that's a copy and paste of one of the texts I got). In short, when the hillside was overgrown with shrubs, and thatch, it was a beautiful value add to the community. When well off people want to move there, it's a blight. Speaking of car, you know there are folks out there who have been speeding like hell down these roads who are upset that these forlorn pockets of the city are finally being re-civilized.
February 6, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, YABO713 said: "usable land is going to the 1% when it could be used as an addition to the park or bikeway" How expensive are these houses going to be? I didn't see a price anywhere.
February 6, 20241 yr I don't know about this paticular group but the rowhouses on the adjacent corner of Columbus had an end (southern) unit for sale a year ago that l looked at. Really nice with great outdoor space overlooking downtown and the river traffic. Anyway the owner was asking $499,000 which was doable for me but the taxes scared me off. Somebody bought it but with this new construction l bet it's now closer to $600,000. I really wanted to live there but...oh those taxes.
February 6, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, cadmen said: I don't know about this paticular group but the rowhouses on the adjacent corner of Columbus had an end (southern) unit for sale a year ago that l looked at. Really nice with great outdoor space overlooking downtown and the river traffic. Anyway the owner was asking $499,000 which was doable for me but the taxes scared me off. Somebody bought it but with this new construction l bet it's now closer to $600,000. I really wanted to live there but...oh those taxes. looking at those designs, I’d be shocked if they started below $750k
February 6, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, YABO713 said: looking at those designs, I’d be shocked if they started below $750k Much lesser designs of similar size are pushing $1 million in Detroit-Shoreway. These are sure to be in that neighborhood. Bring on the 50 year mortgage.
February 6, 20241 yr Due to the site conditions I can’t imagine anything under $1,000,000 on the low end.
February 6, 20241 yr Asking out of genuine curiosity aka I don’t know what I don’t know. I get the retaining wall as these are going in not too far from Irishtown Bend. Is there any concern about water runoff/flooding from the top/hardscape around Waterford Bluffs, etc.? Any engineering folks, please enlighten me if that’s a thing 🤔 clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
February 7, 20241 yr Author 4 hours ago, dwolfi01 said: How expensive are these houses going to be? I didn't see a price anywhere. In the absence of hard information, I tried to allude to a potential price point by referencing the million-dollar-homes at the top of the hill (including ex-MetroHealth CEO Akram Boutros' humble abode). And there are other homes in the works in Cleveland that will be worth $1 million+ at the outset, but the developer has asked me to sit on it for the time being. I told him I would prefer to sit in a million-dollar home than on one.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 7, 20241 yr New from the group text: "Why don't we try to make that slope an archaeological site as well? Maybe that designation will slow down the timeline for this project and will make these elitist chodes lose interest." I love where I live but HOOOOOOLY HELL.
February 7, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, YABO713 said: New from the group text: "Why don't we try to make that slope an archaeological site as well? Maybe that designation will slow down the timeline for this project and will make these elitist chodes lose interest." I love where I live but HOOOOOOLY HELL. <sarcasm>Yeah. We don't need them or their taxes in our city!</sarcasm>
February 7, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, YABO713 said: New from the group text: "Why don't we try to make that slope an archaeological site as well? Maybe that designation will slow down the timeline for this project and will make these elitist chodes lose interest." I love where I live but HOOOOOOLY HELL. How do they know the chodes are not of the hoi polloi?
February 7, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, YABO713 said: New from the group text: "Why don't we try to make that slope an archaeological site as well? Maybe that designation will slow down the timeline for this project and will make these elitist chodes lose interest." I love where I live but HOOOOOOLY HELL. Makes you wonder who the "elitist chodes" actually are? I own an investment property in Highland Square in Akron where these kinds of comments pop up all the time in neighborhood groups. I would expect that there, in a neighborhood filled with people who went to college for 17 years and never left...
February 7, 20241 yr 36 minutes ago, YABO713 said: New from the group text: "Why don't we try to make that slope an archaeological site as well? Maybe that designation will slow down the timeline for this project and will make these elitist chodes lose interest." I love where I live but HOOOOOOLY HELL. I'm confused by these takes because I keep reading people bashing rich suburbanites for not living in the city. But when opportunities to lure some of those people arise, people say they aren't welcome. It sounds just like suburbanites who say the same stuff about development around them.
February 7, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, coneflower said: I'm confused by these takes because I keep reading people bashing rich suburbanites for not living in the city. But when opportunities to lure some of those people arise, people say they aren't welcome. It sounds just like suburbanites who say the same stuff about development around them. It's exhausting. The designs are beautiful. It will help get more people near the city core. It's more eyes on the towpath for safety. It's merely people trying to keep an ultra vague "them" out of this area.
February 7, 20241 yr Just now, YABO713 said: It's exhausting. The designs are beautiful. It will help get more people near the city core. It's more eyes on the towpath for safety. It's merely people trying to keep an ultra vague "them" out of this area. Thankfully, I don't think it will effect the viability/approval of this project since it's a single family housing project and there are no trees being removed....
February 7, 20241 yr 29 minutes ago, YABO713 said: It's exhausting. The designs are beautiful. It will help get more people near the city core. It's more eyes on the towpath for safety. It's merely people trying to keep an ultra vague "them" out of this area. Do you actually respond to these individuals with such rational comments. I can understand if you don't even bother as it certainly won't change their minds when they are so far out there, but it might help with the "sane" lurkers on your thread. Every little bit helps. Edited February 7, 20241 yr by Htsguy
February 7, 20241 yr 17 hours ago, marty15 said: Much lesser designs of similar size are pushing $1 million in Detroit-Shoreway. These are sure to be in that neighborhood. Bring on the 50 year mortgage. Very nice interiors, if the Planning Commish presentation is reliable. Look around mid-session: https://planning.clevelandohio.gov/designreview/drcagenda/2024/PDF/slides/CPC-presentation-02-02-2024.pdf Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
February 7, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, Htsguy said: Do you actually respond to this individuals with such rational comments. I can understand if you don't even bother as it certainly won't change their minds when they are so far out there, but it might help with the "sane" lurkers on your thread. Every little bit helps. My last response was - "I'm fairly certain your income would more than permit you to purchase one of these. So my entire issue is that you're lumping a group of people together (into a category which you yourself could fall into) because you're scared some suburban caricature is going to move there and you'll no longer be able to make snarky comments about them - though I suspect the suburban comments will soon be swapped for "they probably moved just to be closer to Townhall". The entire reason we are raising our kids in this neighborhood is so they meet people from every walk of life and to reduce our commute times so we can spend more time with them. Why would you not wish that for someone else? And for the love of God pleeeeease do not suggest these homes built on a vacant hillside are displacing lower income residents." As an aside - this is actually directed at a good friend of mine
February 7, 20241 yr 44 minutes ago, downtownjoe said: there are no trees being removed.... Not doubting you, but where did you get this information?
February 7, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, Ethan said: Not doubting you, but where did you get this information? It was sarcasm that didn't show well because it's hard to show sarcasm on the internet. I don't doubt a segment of folks will complain about residents moving in and replacing trees.
February 7, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, downtownjoe said: It was sarcasm that didn't show well because it's hard to show sarcasm on the internet. I don't doubt a segment of folks will complain about residents moving in and replacing trees. I used to hate emojis, but I have grown to use them as a tool for conveying emotion on the internet / texting. A well selected emoji can completely clarify what one is trying to convey.
April 2, 20241 yr Wow. I'm not really even a fan of modern architecture but l love this. Duck Island has created quite a nice little concentration of modern homes. This has created a distinctive neighborhood and could be a calling card Sets the bar higher. Aesthetically and financially.
June 20, 2024Jun 20 On 2/2/2024 at 11:39 AM, NorthShore647 said: Two buildings in the Carter Road Homes development (11 and 12) were at CPC today for various approvals. This is a pretty interesting project just because of how challenging the lots will be there. Once all of the lots are built out I think these can really help strengthen the connection between the new developments on Scranton Peninsula and Columbus/Duck Island/OC. Hopefully we get the sidewalk along the southside of Carter. Site work has begun
June 20, 2024Jun 20 Get a load of this rehab next to Taps and Tails on Train Ave. Also note Treo and the Lincoln Heights development in the background. Took me by surprise how good this looks. Edited June 20, 2024Jun 20 by ASP1984
June 20, 2024Jun 20 13 hours ago, ASP1984 said: Get a load of this rehab next to Taps and Tails on Train Ave. Also note Treo and the Lincoln Heights development in the background. Took me by surprise how good this looks. Here it is from May of last year (this pic doesn't really show much tbh) but it was pretty much just a skeleton at that point, good to see them rehab it.
June 21, 2024Jun 21 ^ yikes yes - between that and the kudzu along the red line — 🙀 which also reminds me — i had this old bootleg on a cassette — 😂
June 21, 2024Jun 21 21 hours ago, surfohio said: Lol does anyone else here get OCD triggered by those kudzu looking vines? Yes, especially if you’re originally from the south and have seen the stuff swallow up entire neighborhoods.
June 21, 2024Jun 21 Author Just now, ArtMasterCLE said: Yes, especially if you’re originally from the south and have seen the stuff swallow up entire neighborhoods. That was theme for Stephen King's short story “The Lonesome Death of Jordy Verrill” in the movie Creepshow. https://www.appalachiabare.com/when-stephen-king-turned-into-a-plant-the-old-villain-kudzu/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 21, 2024Jun 21 Wow, I forgot about that lonely Grove Ct Condos building up on the hill built in the 80's you can see in the background. I went to a party there sometime in the early 90's. They have great views, and pretty cool interior layouts. Tiny kitchens, but in upscale places like that it was normal in the 80's. Busy Yuppies did not cook then.
June 22, 2024Jun 22 Author Grove Court isn't so lonely anymore. It's got a couple of large, million-dollar townhomes on one side of it and Waterford Bluffs on the other. And then across Lorain... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 22, 2024Jun 22 2 hours ago, KJP said: Grove Court isn't so lonely anymore. It's got a couple of large, million-dollar townhomes on one side of it and Waterford Bluffs on the other. And then across Lorain... I get the impression you are hinting at a possible new development on Lorain. That's great, but the past few months I get less excited by such news given the large number of proposed developments (not the pie in the sky type but concrete proposals) that are not moving forward or sit idle even though they received Landmarks or PC approval ages ago. Of course it is heartening that developers are not putting the brake on proposals even given the current environment. Some day the stagnation will have to end. Edited June 22, 2024Jun 22 by Htsguy
June 22, 2024Jun 22 Author No, actually I'm not. Just referring to the new developments across Lorain which really aren't next to Grove Court but close enough to create more critical mass. They are new developments. There is activity. There is hope and light in the city... 🙂 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 3, 2024Jul 3 Got a cool screen grab from jonesdronescle latest IG video of the backside/terrace area of Waterford Bluffs
July 4, 2024Jul 4 My company has an eight month rotation program for new college grads, and Waterford Bluffs has become the go to place for all of them to stay. We have four there right now all reverse commuting to our Independence area office. Without exception everyone who has stayed here has liked the apartment, the Ohio City area, and Cleveland as a whole during their stay.
July 19, 2024Jul 19 On 2/2/2024 at 11:39 AM, NorthShore647 said: Two buildings in the Carter Road Homes development (11 and 12) were at CPC today for various approvals. This is a pretty interesting project just because of how challenging the lots will be there. Once all of the lots are built out I think these can really help strengthen the connection between the new developments on Scranton Peninsula and Columbus/Duck Island/OC. Hopefully we get the sidewalk along the southside of Carter. They've started on these.
July 19, 2024Jul 19 These are nice BUT during a heavy rain isn't the water going to run down the hillside straight into the house?
July 20, 2024Jul 20 4 hours ago, simplythis said: These are nice BUT during a heavy rain isn't the water going to run down the hillside straight into the house? I’m sure someone has figured it out.
July 20, 2024Jul 20 7 hours ago, simplythis said: These are nice BUT during a heavy rain isn't the water going to run down the hillside straight into the house? They will likely have some sort of stormwater/drainage collection infrastructure there. This can even be combined with a landscape feature. Something like this: What is Green Stormwater Infrastructure?
July 24, 2024Jul 24 On 7/20/2024 at 12:28 AM, Rustbelter said: They will likely have some sort of stormwater/drainage collection infrastructure there. This can even be combined with a landscape feature. Something like this: What is Green Stormwater Infrastructure? i had a long chat with a developer guy building his own new house near a hillside in nj. he said building the water catchment system is the trickiest and obviously most important part. also that the builders will be lazy doing it or try to cut corners instead of doing it right, so he basically had to be on site every day he could. there are several ways to handle the water and its kind of fascinating how they can do it. then after its built out its all unseen.
July 25, 2024Jul 25 There was a really good This Old House episode that dealt with this issue for a home they were building near a hill side. It was really involved process from analysis to execution. I'll try to find the season, it was really interesting.
October 17, 2024Oct 17 Author Duck Island adding new townhomes By Ken Prendergast / October 17, 2024 Christoff Group isn't wasting any time in moving forward on a new townhouse development in the Duck Island section of Cleveland's Tremont neighborhood. Only two months after acquiring just over a quarter of an acre of land, the developer and its realtor are announcing a six-unit collection of large, for-sale homes. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/10/17/duck-island-adding-new-townhomes/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 17, 2024Oct 17 2 minutes ago, KJP said: Duck Island adding new townhomes By Ken Prendergast / October 17, 2024 Christoff Group isn't wasting any time in moving forward on a new townhouse development in the Duck Island section of Cleveland's Tremont neighborhood. Only two months after acquiring just over a quarter of an acre of land, the developer and its realtor are announcing a six-unit collection of large, for-sale homes. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/10/17/duck-island-adding-new-townhomes/ $700k and you get vinyl flooring? 😶
October 17, 2024Oct 17 35 minutes ago, marty15 said: $700k and you get vinyl flooring? 😶 Those Florida climate refugees have more more money than sense.
October 17, 2024Oct 17 1 hour ago, marty15 said: $700k and you get vinyl flooring? 😶 but it's "luxury" vinyl plank.
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