April 5, 20187 yr Regarding the word “hovel,” remember, please, that is or was the home of many. And to some it might have meant a great deal....
April 5, 20187 yr I thought he was referring to the Abbey Market...in which case, I agree with KJP[/member]
April 5, 20187 yr The place definitely gives a bit of a bad impression but you all just inspired me to do some research on it... it has 39 reviews and 4.3/5 stars on google, people apparently really like the owners. Maybe they just need a bit of a remodel, haha.
April 5, 20187 yr The place definitely gives a bit of a bad impression but you all just inspired me to do some research on it... it has 39 reviews and 4.3/5 stars on google, people apparently really like the owners. Maybe they just need a bit of a remodel, haha. I was jumped in the parking lot in HS
April 5, 20187 yr Author Regarding the word “hovel,” remember, please, that is or was the home of many. And to some it might have neant a great deal.... No I was referring to the house that looks like a dump. It and Abbey Market are increasingly out of place on Duck Island. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 5, 20187 yr Gentrification shouldn't reduce walkable retail. Abbey Market is an important part of the neighborhood.
April 5, 20187 yr Gentrification shouldn't reduce walkable retail. Abbey Market is an important part of the neighborhood. no one suggested that the use needs to change though.
April 5, 20187 yr So it's not out of place, it just needs some investment like most of Cleveland's storefronts.
April 5, 20187 yr The plan for that block is to be converted to mixed use- 1st floor neighborhood retail, with apts above.
April 5, 20187 yr So it's not out of place, it just needs some investment like most of Cleveland's storefronts. It's condition is terrible and out of place. it needs more than "some" investment.
April 5, 20187 yr The building is in rough shape, but you'd be impressed with the craft beer selection inside. I think Berges is trying to get a deal to include them in a mixed use building on the site.
April 5, 20187 yr The building is in rough shape, but you'd be impressed with the craft beer selection inside. I think Berges is trying to get a deal to include them in a mixed use building on the site. I've been inside and I agree but the outside looks rough.
April 5, 20187 yr Sign me up for "the Villas at Abbey Market" SoDa SoPa. With views of historic Kenny's house.
April 5, 20187 yr Author So it's not out of place, it just needs some investment like most of Cleveland's storefronts. Its appearance is out of place, not its use. If mixed use will replace it, so much the better. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 10, 20187 yr From the Terminal Tower observation deck this past Sunday: clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
April 11, 20187 yr Author More densification of Duck Island.... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2018/crr04-23-2018.pdf 9:30 Calendar No. 18-76: 2221 W. 20 Street Ward 3 Kerry McCormack 12 Notices Leigh Fox, owner, proposes to build a multi-family residence in a B1 Multi-Family Residential District. The owner appeals for relief from the strict application of the following sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances: 1. Section 355.04 which states that the maximum gross floor area allowed is 3631.50 square feet and the proposed gross floor area is 3718 square feet. 2. Section 357.09(b)(2)(A) which states that in Residence Districts other than Limited One Family Districts, no building shall be erected less than 10’ from main building on an adjoin lot within such Residence Districts; proposed distance is 7’-2”. 3. Section 357.09(b)(2)© which states that in Multi-Family districts no interior side yard, shall be less than 8’; proposed side yard is 3’. 4. Section 357.13 which states that an air conditioning unit is not a permitted interior side yard encroachment. (Filed March 28, 2018) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 9, 20187 yr Author The 2097 Columbus Lofts rise next to the West 25th-Ohio City Red Line rail station, one of many Duck Island-Ohio City developments rising within a few minutes walk of this station, also served by the 24-hour #81 bus and multiple other 24-hour bus routes nearby. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 9, 20187 yr That is the townhouses going up at 2071 Columbus NOT at 2097 Columbus.....but they are both good examples of T.O.D. https://goo.gl/maps/6yUpnFi3AJr
May 9, 20187 yr but they are both good examples of T.O.D. Because the entire development is single-use residential, it offers nothing to the 99.9% of potential transit-riders who fail to own a townhouse there. As such it will have minimal effect on ridership. It contributes nothing to the perceived or actual utility of the transit system as an alternative to driving. In no way is this development oriented to the transit station that happens to be nearby. General rule of thumb: if the street frontage is mostly garage doors or the first floor is mostly garage space, or the entire site is forever off-limits to pedestrians, then you're looking at a Car Oriented Development. If it's located this close to a major transit station, you might even call it a Transit Thwarting Development due to the very limited number of parcels where TOD is possible.
May 10, 20187 yr Author That is the townhouses going up at 2071 Columbus NOT at 2097 Columbus.....but they are both good examples of T.O.D. https://goo.gl/maps/6yUpnFi3AJr I don't see anything about townhomes at 2071 Columbus. Do you have a link? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 10, 20187 yr That is the townhouses going up at 2071 Columbus NOT at 2097 Columbus.....but they are both good examples of T.O.D. https://goo.gl/maps/6yUpnFi3AJr I don't see anything about townhomes at 2071 Columbus. Do you have a link? Isn't that Duck Island 7? http://www.duckisland7.com/#duckisland7 --edited to add link--
May 10, 20187 yr Author That's probably it. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 10, 20187 yr Duck Island 7 Townhouses https://www.progressiveurban.com/Duck_Island_7_-New_Construction_Townhomes_In_Ohio-City/Tremont
May 10, 20187 yr Author So many townhouse developments in the area, it's hard to keep track. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 10, 20187 yr I suppose that's a good problem to have ;) "We each pay a fabulous price for our visions of paradise." - ????, ???????
May 10, 20187 yr but they are both good examples of T.O.D. Because the entire development is single-use residential, it offers nothing to the 99.9% of potential transit-riders who fail to own a townhouse there. As such it will have minimal effect on ridership. It contributes nothing to the perceived or actual utility of the transit system as an alternative to driving. In no way is this development oriented to the transit station that happens to be nearby. General rule of thumb: if the street frontage is mostly garage doors or the first floor is mostly garage space, or the entire site is forever off-limits to pedestrians, then you're looking at a Car Oriented Development. If it's located this close to a major transit station, you might even call it a Transit Thwarting Development due to the very limited number of parcels where TOD is possible. Two car garage's, no less!. Maybe it will be used for work space/storage, idk. I suppose what these will do is make the walking experience more enjoyable and safe (feeling) for the others using the transportation system in this area.
June 16, 20187 yr Author Anyone know what's going on with Brickhaus' Ohio City development on Lorain Avenue, across from the Red Line station? If you go to the county's property search engine at http://myplace.cuyahogacounty.us and click on the parcels for this development site, you get the message: "Parcel 00401115 (or 00401116) is an invalid parcel number. Please contact the Fiscal Office for any questions concerning this parcel." However, there are only three parcels left for this development site, the ones noted in the prior sentence and a third, 00401082, which is a tiny parcel no larger than the brick structure standing on it, owned by Ray & Chris Holdings, LLC. This was owned by Ray G. Hauck Trustee until February of this year. This is the same Ray Hauck & Son Painting Inc. which has been around since 1895 (even says so on their little building). Questions -- 1. is the "invalid number" info on the county website a temporary message until the properties are fully consolidated by the county? 2. Hauck is a holdout, I assume because the owner Chris Hauck is refusing to sell to Brickhaus or at least for the price Brickhaus is offering, correct? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 16, 20187 yr Cannot answer your questions KJP. Just wanted to chime in that when I started a thread entitled "What will be built first and why" back in 2014 or 2015 I embarrassedly (at least now in hindsight) picked this project as my number one (I believe at the time a few other forum posters agreed). Boy was I wrong...now I am wondering if it will ever go forward.
June 16, 20187 yr Author Stuff happens. It's why I don't gamble. ;) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 16, 20187 yr I asked Ohio City Inc. about it a few months ago and they were hoping that work would start soon. There was a lot of conflict with the developer who wanted a very large and very tall development that everyone else just didn’t feel was right for the location which led to a lot of back and forth. Hopefully they can compromise. Apparently the developer is pretty difficult to work with.
June 16, 20187 yr Has there been any community push back against this as with the proposed apartments across the street?
June 16, 20187 yr ^^^ The invalid parcel number is almost definitely related to the consolidation of parcels, but the online record system takes a long time to get updated. I have seen parcels that have been consolidated for years still showing the old parcel number online. So whether the consolidation has been finalized or not cannot really be determined from the online records.
June 18, 20186 yr Getting the numbers right can take some time especially with how valuable this piece of dirt is. I would expect that you all will hear about this very soon.
June 18, 20186 yr What is being built south of the animal hospital? This... http://www.duckislanddevelopment.com/west-nineteen-townhomes/ It looks like some genuine work has started on these townhouses. There is a stone wall/foundation being built at the base of the hill.
June 18, 20186 yr Author It looks like some genuine work has started on these townhouses. There is a stone wall/foundation being built at the base of the hill. I see on the county website that the development site's large parcel has been subdivided for each unit. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 18, 20186 yr These are beautiful. I wish we'd see more rowhomes as opposed to the gimmicke ones peppering Tremont, OC, and DS
July 5, 20186 yr Cannot answer your questions KJP. Just wanted to chime in that when I started a thread entitled "What will be built first and why" back in 2014 or 2015 I embarrassedly (at least now in hindsight) picked this project as my number one (I believe at the time a few other forum posters agreed). Boy was I wrong...now I am wondering if it will ever go forward. So do I, unfortunately....
August 7, 20186 yr From the Terminal Tower observation deck this past Sunday: Here is a picture of this place from the front and the one next-door who's foundation you can see in your pic. Lorain and West 17th(?), I think edit: Attached picture instead of direct link.
August 7, 20186 yr A shot of the in-progress Mercury Townhomes on West 17th. http://www.duckislanddevelopment.com/mercury-townhomes/ And lastly, a couple shots of the townhomes at the northeast corner of Columbus Road and Freeman, across from Forest City Brewery. edit: Attached images instead of direct linking.
August 7, 20186 yr Author The speed at which homes get proposed, approved, financed and built in Duck Island is astounding. Of course, the market rate for housing there is what makes the engine go. I hope things will move as quickly just the down the hill on Scranton Peninsula. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 7, 20186 yr I like these townhomes a lot, both with design and street presence, I'm just curious about how these designs will look in 10+ years and that goes for all of these similarly designed townhomes with both materials and overall design. Right now though I'm in love with the progress in the area.
August 7, 20186 yr The speed at which homes get proposed, approved, financed and built in Duck Island is astounding. Of course, the market rate for housing there is what makes the engine go. I hope things will move as quickly just the down the hill on Scranton Peninsula. Hearing the carter road proposal has stalled due to engineering costs for securing the hillside.
August 8, 20186 yr Can't see the images, all I get is a do not enter emblem. Okay, apparently direct linking to images in a shared Google Photo album is flaky. I updated the posts with the images attached instead of direct-linked.
August 8, 20186 yr The speed at which homes get proposed, approved, financed and built in Duck Island is astounding. Of course, the market rate for housing there is what makes the engine go. I hope things will move as quickly just the down the hill on Scranton Peninsula. Hearing the carter road proposal has stalled due to engineering costs for securing the hillside. Nope, it’s slowly progressing.
August 8, 20186 yr Can't see the images, all I get is a do not enter emblem. Okay, apparently direct linking to images in a shared Google Photo album is flaky. I updated the posts with the images attached instead of direct-linked. I'm sure the UO police will let you off with just a warning, just this once. Thanks for posting!
August 8, 20186 yr I like these townhomes a lot, both with design and street presence, I'm just curious about how these designs will look in 10+ years and that goes for all of these similarly designed townhomes with both materials and overall design. Right now though I'm in love with the progress in the area. Contemporary design has been around longer than 10 years already. Just not in Cleveland. Take a look around Columbus. Also, these homes will always look better than the "home" that is to the left of the new townhomes at the corner of Freeman and Columbus above.
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