February 10, 200619 yr Absolutely ghastly. Those foam models look like a project an art teacher would have his foundations level class do the first week. This could only fit in in Pyonyang.
February 10, 200619 yr Absolutely ghastly. Those foam models look like a project an art teacher would have his foundations level class do the first week. This could only fit in in Pyonyang. its foam lol....its going to look like foam.
February 10, 200619 yr why would the plaza be empty and sunless? Look at the renderings. Why would anyone be in the plaza? Look at the shadow study. During most times of day, the plaza is mostly in shadow.
February 10, 200619 yr well they said "There'll be a farmers market, there'll be coffee shops, there'll be restaurants. So really, we're trying to create a new community center where art, people and commerce all interact," says development team member Craig Greenburg..
February 10, 200619 yr This thing is going to be pretty hideous at ground level. It will feature an empty, dead, sunless plaza and will overwhelm the surrounding neighborhood with its "island" several hundred feet above people's heads. I can't imagine that it will be very pleasant to be anywhere near it at ground level. This is one of the interesting parts of this design.... ...it creates this overhead visual interest, which causes people to figuer out what the heck this is...as sort of a draw (particularly that 20th level museum box, which will be really dramatic at night). Based on the article the plaza is probably intended to be back-circulation to the other museums on Main Street, though I think the diagonal tube is intended to be the main public entry, and it will open up off a small narrow plaza on main street..it looks like they are going to be taking out one of those narrow Main Street buildings to build that plaza... In any case the ground floor treatment is not going to be out of context becuase just behind those older buildings in the pix is a big concrete floodwall, and behind that is a very "engineered" environment of parking garages & lots, and an elevated freeway...there is not much of a context to work with.
February 10, 200619 yr awww damn... I meant to mention the proposed cctv building in my last post... didn't know it was the same design firm.
February 10, 200619 yr Of course we would not be seeing all these negative comments if something this radical was going up in an Ohio city. How much you do you wanna bet? Hell, there were people complaining about the Queen City Square design. This building will definitely give Louisville a new identity and here it is in a conversation: Person 1: "I'm going to Louisville this weekend." Person 2: "Louisville? Oh, that's the city with the ugly skyscraper." Person 1: " Yeah, that's the one." I think building a 700 ft. tower in the shape of a baseball bat would be much better. :lol: Anyway, how much talent does it really take to design something like this? As a matter of fact, I think they probably came across their kids playing with building blocks, and said, " Oh my god!! That's our next design!!!" Note to OHIO cities- Don't hire this architect!!!
February 10, 200619 yr well, i think the firm is bigger than the united states..they have a building in China...so taking Ohio off the list wouldn't do them much harm.... :roll:
February 10, 200619 yr ^^But it would save us from having one of their works, thats the point. ^^But it would save us from having one of their works, thats the point. well. i think its great for the ohio valley. Louisville will have the tallest in the Ohio Valley. who would have thought?
February 10, 200619 yr well. i think its great for the ohio valley. Louisville will have the tallest in the Ohio Valley. who would have thought? LOL, good for Louisville! BTW, if you are going to show off your skyscrapers, why not the whole package? When I was there last summer, I read in the paper about Humana buying a whole block to rehap and I noticed a couple projects going on around town. Why not start a Louisville developements thread and keep us up to date on all the projects? We are bound to like one of them. :-)
February 10, 200619 yr well i just thought a 61 story skyscraper was pretty big news for the ohio valley. Nothing this big has went up in this region in a while.
February 10, 200619 yr I don't like the Seattle Public Library either. In person it isn't nearly so light looking. It looks like a giant cage. Or a prison. For what should be the most welcoming institution in the city- its library. Rem Koolhas is the poster child for what is wrong with "starchitecture". His buildings pay no attention to the context in which they are placed. They pay no attention to the quality of the environment that they create for those that will be in and around the building. It is all about his ego, and making something outrageous just for the hell of it- and people pay big money for that. From the renderings shown, it looks like there is some "context" to the North of the project. But they don't really show any of that very well, so it's hard for me to know.
February 10, 200619 yr I think building a 700 ft. tower in the shape of a baseball bat would be much better. Barcelona already stole that idea http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100200 Personally I don't like the design, but thats just my opinion. Also its kind of hard to say a park is going to be public when its 20 stories off the ground. Its going to be just as public as the mall.
February 10, 200619 yr this will be a beautiful masterpiece when all is said and done. anyone who thinks this is ugly.. you have a lot to learn..
February 10, 200619 yr ^ It's all about opnions.. If 60-40 like it it's a failure. If 90-10 like it. It 's a success.
February 10, 200619 yr this will be a beautiful masterpiece when all is said and done. anyone who thinks this is ugly.. you have a lot to learn.. :roll:
February 10, 200619 yr the gaps will get filled....thats a given...When the Humana building (which many people also called ugly) was built there was a gap, and it was replaced by the national City tower When the national city tower was built there was a gap, it was filled by the Aegon tower... i'm confident other towers will be built between the Museum Plaza and the other skyline cluster.
February 10, 200619 yr Of course we would not be seeing all these negative comments if something this radical was going up in an Ohio city. You'd see worse backlash. Re: Queen City Square "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 10, 200619 yr It's definitely... interesting, but I don't like it much. I think it sticks out like a sore thumb in the renderings. Something a bit more subtle would be nice. But I won't have to look at it every day, so if it's what Louisville really wants, then go nuts. :-)
February 10, 200619 yr and people don't seem to understand the Louisville is not a east -west skyline. The view from across the river is confusing because you can't see the rest of the skyscrapers behind the aegon tower and others. Louisville has a north south skyline. So you can image the depth the Museum Plaza will add in the angle above.
February 10, 200619 yr ^^But it would save us from having one of their works, thats the point. ^^But it would save us from having one of their works, thats the point. well. i think its great for the ohio valley. Louisville will have the tallest in the Ohio Valley. who would have thought? You do realize Pittsburgh is in the Ohio Valley, and Pittsburgh will STILL have taller buildings than this "Tetris for Kentucky" reject, right? This building is hideous. Seroiously, I found it to be a joke when I first saw the renderings for it and Jesus, if it is built, Louisville's already aesthetically pleasing skyline will go the way of...Buffalo...but with a more hideous tallest. It's as if they "chopped and screwed" the World Trade Centers, bitchslapped them to 61 stories, and decided to play Jenga. Horrific design, horrific location for it (in the Main Street area at that! Oy), and horrific to see the Louisville Slugger Bat finally un-tackying something. A pity. This design belongs in Wuxan. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 10, 200619 yr It just seems like an attempt at a futuristic building but it ends up looking like a messed up '70's style building.
February 10, 200619 yr But i wouldn't say pittsburgh is in the ohio valley..but if so, my mistake....second tallest by 3 floors :)
February 10, 200619 yr I adore Louisville, great city, 4th Street Live is fantastic, but that tower is...just...WTF?!?!?!?
February 10, 200619 yr It just seems like an attempt at a futuristic building but it ends up looking like a messed up '70's style building. Futuristic? I don't know if i'd say that, its 2006, what does futuristic mean these day? Louisville is known for unique buildings. Everyone called the humana building ugly, but when it was finished it is known as one of the most amazing buildings in the nation. there still isn't anything quite like it.
February 10, 200619 yr and Queen City Square just seemed like another regular skyscraper to me, i don't know what the big deal about that was. it would have been great for the skyline
February 10, 200619 yr ^^The Humana isn't that unique,defiently not as much as this thing. I doubt I would have detested it as much, or even at all. ^So does that mean you like QCS or not? It might still happen you know. Do you like the Aegon Tower? Its one of my favorites.
February 10, 200619 yr i love queen city sqaure. the aegon tower is unique because of its dome.... which, ironically, the queen city square will have too.....i don't know if it will light up though.
February 10, 200619 yr Quote from: inkaelin on Today at 06:19:20 pm Quote from: Jeff on Today at 04:41:18 pm Of course we would not be seeing all these negative comments if something this radical was going up in an Ohio city. You would defiently hear it from me, I hate this tower. I love the City of Louisville and am happy to see it healty enought for such a developement. You are not serious.... if you woke up in the morning and saw this in the enquirer to be built right on the river next to paul brown or the Carew you would tell Cincinnati to reject the tower? Give me a break lol please, any city would take a 61 story tower. the design isn't that bad either. stop exagerating. its great for the Ohio Valley. Not all skyscrapers need to look like everyother skyscraper. If I ever saw that monstrocity adorning the front page of the Dispatch, I would burn it. We have enough ugly buildings here, thank you! Seriously though, haven't we seen this before? Haven't we learned our lesson? Isn't there a gargantuan building complex in a city not so far away from Louisville that has been credited with hampering further downtown growth, creating a horribly unbalanced skyline, and now, nearly three decades later, looks just as grotesque as it did when it was built? I speak of Detroit and it's ever-so-fabulous Renaissance Center. Yay Louisville! Here's to your "forward-thinking" architectural jauggernaut that will propell you to the far off year of 1977!
February 10, 200619 yr Colday, I was thinking it looks like someone pulled all of the interlocking rectangles of the Sears Tower apart.
February 10, 200619 yr Where does the 66 foot white chocolate Jeebus go PigBoy? I'm sure it would greatly improve the look of the design.
February 10, 200619 yr I like this park concept, too, the way it turns the high tension line river crossing structure into this giant framework sculpture, which sort of plays off the expressed framework of the tower Haha! I can hear it now... "C'mon kids, let's go play under the power lines! Maybe the impending brain damage will enable you to create a mostrocity such as that *pointing to RenCen II* someday!"
February 10, 200619 yr Colday, I was thinking it looks like someone pulled all of the interlocking rectangles of the Sears Tower apart. Ooo...good eye! "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 10, 200619 yr You have served well, young Skywalker. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 10, 200619 yr Well, none would unless you were involved :). "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 10, 200619 yr another similarity (which some have already touched on) to The Rencen: Complete lack of human scale.
February 10, 200619 yr Although the design is definantly different, I can't say I like it. I'd do anything to have a some tall scrapers' built in Akron, but I'd cringe if something like this was built here. IMHO.... YUCK!!!
February 10, 200619 yr I think it'd fit right in New Albany. But then again, so would a KFC. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 10, 200619 yr What's the problem w/ this concept? That it's different and un-like most anything we've seen? Or that it's located on the "wrong" street? I think that anything that has this many people discussing it is an automatic sign of extended interest, making it a success. Anyways, now I have to re-think of what AT Tower in Cleveland is called, if this is supposed to be "ugly"..
February 10, 200619 yr Yay Louisville! Here's to your "forward-thinking" architectural jauggernaut that will propell you to the far off year of 1977! well what year was Cincinnati's tallest built? 1931! When people come to Cincinnati do they say....this place looks so 1931? But anyway, how does this museum plaza look like anything from 1977? Its never been done before, its unique, and one of a kind. You can say it looks like something from 1977 all you want, but the bottom line it will be complete in 2010 :)
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