January 19, 201411 yr One problem I see is that as our nightlife districts increasingly overlap with our upscale urban residential areas, it is going to create more conflicts. The Warehouse District, East 4th, and W. 25th aren't the old Flats (and the new Flats won't be either). People live near them, and don't really want the sort of issues that seem to pop up around dance oriented nightclubs compared to more low key places. I think that those sorts of places are going to need to find a new "strip" away from residential, or need to get better at crowd control inside and around their venues. I've always thought St. Clair, between 13th and the 20's would be the perfect strip for this. A nice urban wall on both sides with plenty of available space! Vada picked up on it! (Though, I know residents at the Avenue weren't too happy about it) Well actually that was one of the stated goals of the owner of Vada when he opened it. He said he wanted to create another club district right there because of all of the available space there. He wants a Miami style nightclub district there and hopes that other club owners start opening up establishments there. He's really aggressively gone after the celebrity clientele since he opened Vada and he's gotten them. That's what he wants that whole strip to look like
January 19, 201411 yr But isn't Vada just the former GRID? yes, the owner took that, turned it into Vada, put a lot of money in the building and so far its been working for him, judging by the large crowds and the amount of local and national celebs that come
January 20, 201411 yr Owner hopes new Vada nightclub can make St. Clair a new hot spot Cleveland's night-life scene is like a leopard's coat -- a spot of activity here and there and there and here, with empty spaces in between. The spots are usually named after streets: West Sixth, East Fourth, West 25th. Well, Chris King is hoping to turn an empty space into a spot -- one called St. Clair. http://tinyurl.com/m3bhu7z
July 13, 201410 yr A few people I know are in control of a liquor license and have approached me for either inclusion in the next venture or at least for ideas. I would like to be Downtown or in Ohio City. I have begun reaching out to commercial real estate brokers to see what types of spaces are available and at what price points etc. Anyone have any experience with bar/nightlife ownership or know some who does?
July 13, 201410 yr A few people I know are in control of a liquor license and have approached me for either inclusion in the next venture or at least for ideas. I would like to be Downtown or in Ohio City. I have begun reaching out to commercial real estate brokers to see what types of spaces are available and at what price points etc. Anyone have any experience with bar/nightlife ownership or know some who does? I think Punch could be a resource. I know at one point he was involved in (building) a bar business in Chicago.
June 24, 20159 yr This thread has been dormant for a while, but seems like the best place for this? If not, please feel free to move. I saw this mentioned last week, but here's the Cleveland.com article: Cleveland gay club Bounce to reopen in time for Cleveland Pride (photos) By John Petkovic, The Plain Dealer Email the author | Follow on Twitter on June 24, 2015 at 11:09 AM, updated June 24, 2015 at 11:11 AM CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The sound of Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive" blasting out of a radio as workers prepared the dance club for its return said it all: Bounce is bouncing back. The iconic gay club will reopen on Friday. The near West Side spot -- 2814 Detroit Ave., Cleveland -- shut down in January after a 13-year run, leaving the gay and drag scenes lamenting the closing of one of the area's longest-running clubs. http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2015/06/cleveland_gay_club_bounce_to_r.html
August 23, 20159 yr Per liquor license info: "Tavern of Little Italy" recently received liquor license for that address.. But, do they already exist in space or opening new place: Here is more info: http://nl-nl.vi-vn.fb.me/TavernOfLittleItaly/posts/336159579926450
August 26, 20159 yr Author How do you know when a Cleveland neighborhood has "made it"? When a suburban business tries to emulate it..... clevelanddotcomVerified account @clevelanddotcom Owner of Wall Street Tavern wants to bring '#OhioCity feel' to #Parma http://s.cleveland.com/yhKmyTV Think he'll pull it off? via @maurazurick http://www.cleveland.com/parma/index.ssf/2015/08/owner_of_wall_street_tavern_wa.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 4, 20159 yr It's a very good thing that Toby Keith's I love this Bar and Grill got halted and never went any further based on the story that was linked through Cleveland seen magazine. http://www.azcentral.com/story/money/business/consumers/2015/09/30/toby-keiths-i-love-this-bar-and-grill-closings/71916554/ It's great that the developers can now find a better suited restaurant operator for that halted building. http://m.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2015/10/01/toby-keiths-officially-not-opening-in-flats-and-theres-good-reason-for-that
October 5, 20159 yr Wow. Looks like we did dodge a bullet with that. I find it interesting that Keith is only paid naming rights and doesn't have an ownership stake.
October 21, 20159 yr The Leader Bar closed a few weeks ago due to the soon to be started office to apartment construction.
October 22, 20159 yr The Leader Bar closed a few weeks ago due to the soon to be started office to apartment construction. Now that is a loss. Great food, decent beer selection, cool space. Gonna miss Leader Bar.
October 22, 20159 yr The Leader Bar closed a few weeks ago due to the soon to be started office to apartment construction. Are they definitely closed for good? I spoke to the owner of Leader Bar (probably like 6 or 7 months ago) and he said he was planning on renovating and possibly expanding.
November 4, 20159 yr Something called The Wild Eagle Saloon is going into the Howell Building at 921 Huron. The building was purchased by Geis sometime last year.
March 31, 20169 yr Author I detect Henry Senyak.... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2016/crr04-18-2016.pdf Board of Zoning Appeals APRIL 18, 2016 ON REMAND FROM COURT OF COMMON PLEAS 9:30 Calendar No. 12-90: 4408 Detroit Ave. Ward 3 Joe Cimperman 21 Notices Karen O’Malley, pursuant to the Journal Entry of the Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court in Case-CV-12-786398 dated December 1, 2015, and the judgement of the Eight District Court of Appeals dated May 1, 2014 in case number 100266, where the Courts, having reviewed the entire record, remanded the case to the City of Cleveland Board of Zoning Appeals to address the issue of unnecessary hardship under Codified Ordinance Section 329.03(b), appeals for a use variance and relief from a strict application of regulations in the Cleveland Zoning Code to have permission for a change/expansion of use from bar/restaurant to bar/restaurant with live entertainment, including outdoor live entertainment, on an acreage parcel located in a D2 Local Retail Business District; subject to the limitations under Section 343.01(b)(2)(F) the proposed change/expansion is not permitted and first permitted in a General Retail Business District, provided the use is sufficiently sound-insulated to confine the noise to the premises, per Section 343.11(b)(2)(L), and is at least 500 feet from a residence district, per Section 347.12(a)(1). Outdoor entertainment is proposed within 500 feet of a residence district to the south. All testimony given at the June 4, 2012 hearing will be a part of the record in this case and will be reviewed by the Board prior to its determination. It is not necessary for witnesses to attend the hearing to repeat the testimony given at the June 4, 2012 hearing; however they may attend and testify if desired. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 4, 20169 yr Author Cleveland 19 News @cleveland19news 7m7 minutes ago 24-hour bars in Ohio City? One owner says it would be great for everyone. http://bit.ly/1UjU8dO "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 1, 20168 yr Author The Best Dive Bars in Cleveland, According to Bartenders When you're looking for cheap whiskey and a Katy Perry-free jukebox, your best bet is to follow off-duty barkeeps. We asked 10 pros in Cleveland for help. http://firstwefeast.com/drink/2016/06/cleveland-best-dive-bars/tarrymore "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 31, 20168 yr All it took was the headline, and you had to just know Norman was going to get mentioned. I wonder if some clubs kicked him out for excessive creepiness (tough on W. 25th but he'd be up to the task) or he just figures the internet is enough. http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/cle-residents-call-for-investigation-into-adult-entertainment-clubs
August 31, 20168 yr How do you know when a Cleveland neighborhood has "made it"? When a suburban business tries to emulate it..... clevelanddotcomVerified account @clevelanddotcom Owner of Wall Street Tavern wants to bring '#OhioCity feel' to #Parma http://s.cleveland.com/yhKmyTV Think he'll pull it off? via @maurazurick http://www.cleveland.com/parma/index.ssf/2015/08/owner_of_wall_street_tavern_wa.html Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
September 15, 20168 yr This is a huge loss IMO. Hopefully something can be arranged to keep it open. http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/09/barking_spider_to_close_30th_a.html#incart_m-rpt-2
September 15, 20168 yr This is a huge loss IMO. Hopefully something can be arranged to keep it open. http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/09/barking_spider_to_close_30th_a.html#incart_m-rpt-2 HUGE! I love this place. So sad about this.
September 15, 20168 yr This is a huge loss IMO. Hopefully something can be arranged to keep it open. http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/09/barking_spider_to_close_30th_a.html#incart_m-rpt-2 NOOOOOOO
September 15, 20168 yr This is a huge loss IMO. Hopefully something can be arranged to keep it open. http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/09/barking_spider_to_close_30th_a.html#incart_m-rpt-2 Hell, I remember it as the Olive Tree. My brother and his wife played there numerous times and he hosted a couple slam poetry events there.
September 15, 20168 yr This is a huge loss IMO. Hopefully something can be arranged to keep it open. http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/09/barking_spider_to_close_30th_a.html#incart_m-rpt-2 OK, I'm not the only geezer who remembers it as the Olive Tree. Hell, I remember it as the Olive Tree. My brother and his wife played there numerous times and he hosted a couple slam poetry events there.
September 16, 20168 yr This is a huge loss IMO. Hopefully something can be arranged to keep it open. http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/09/barking_spider_to_close_30th_a.html#incart_m-rpt-2 OK, I'm not the only geezer who remembers it as the Olive Tree. Hell, I remember it as the Olive Tree. My brother and his wife played there numerous times and he hosted a couple slam poetry events there. Bellflower was north-side fraternity row back then, and the beer age in Ohio was 19. It had a largely Greek crowd, and no I don't mean they served ouzo.
October 12, 20177 yr Author I had no idea this bar near me was that old.... Lakewood bar Five O' Clock Lounge to celebrate 84-year history at anniversary event (this Saturday) http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2017/10/lakewood_bar_five_o_clock_loun.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 12, 20177 yr I had no idea this bar near me was that old.... Lakewood bar Five O' Clock Lounge to celebrate 84-year history at anniversary event (this Saturday) http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2017/10/lakewood_bar_five_o_clock_loun.html If you do the math a lot of bars will celebrate an 84th anniversary this year.
November 14, 20177 yr Author For nearly four decades Carney's has sat near the top of a hill on Washington Avenue and offered a homely alternative to the ritzy lounges and fancy restaurants that populate the other side of the Cuyahoga River. https://t.co/u4bl8UPJyB "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 15, 20177 yr Haha I'm there now! The West bank has several really cool places without needing to trumpet themselves like the eastbank does. I think I need to do a photo thread of all the stuff going on over here soon.
January 5, 20196 yr I like the tongue-in-cheek headline. Not sure why people on Facebook and in the comments section are getting upset: The ranking is based off per capita metrics. Cleveland Somehow Named Fifth Best American City for Nightlife in New Report Posted By Laura Morrison on Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 12:02 PM Cleveland's nightlife scene is so hot right now, at least according to the Apartment Guide blog's new Top 10 Best Cities For Nightlife in America list. The blog, which unsurprisingly helps apartment hunters find apartments, compared the ratio of people to the number of music spots, bars, breweries and clubs to come up with their results. https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2019/01/04/cleveland-somehow-named-fifth-best-american-city-for-nightlife-in-new-report Edited January 5, 20196 yr by MuRrAy HiLL
January 22, 20205 yr Author Uh, no thanks...... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 22, 20205 yr 17 hours ago, KJP said: Uh, no thanks...... The ball pit is always the most germ infected place in any play-place. Want to take a guess as to what germs are floating around an adults only one .... ??
January 28, 20205 yr Author "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 22, 20204 yr Author "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 22, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, KJP said: It is truly sad that our government is just letting these kinds of cultural establishments die with no assistance at all. Politicians and defense contractors are getting paid...so all is good in their worlds.
February 25, 20214 yr Spin Magazine visited Cleveland recently, and talked to the owners of The Grog Shop, Beachland Ballroom, Blue Arrow Records, and photographer Janet Macoska about how COVID is effecting their businesses. https://www.spin.com/featured/cleveland-music-survival/?fbclid=IwAR14OjrIKLaPdP9EV9DhZgPLDZc3hZhxReTTuC4zn4jFL9UlChX19_VVt9o
February 28, 20214 yr well vtr being sold sure caught my eye in the paper today. the cross country mortgage gang bought it, so i think its going to be ok. i hope paulius got out from whatever weight he was under with it while it was closed up for corona. he’s a legend — wish him well. vtr is one of the greats and one of the very first retro speakeasy style cocktail bars. https://www.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2021/02/velvet-tango-room-cocktail-bar-on-clevelands-near-west-side-sold-to-mortgage-company-ceo.html
March 1, 20214 yr 10 hours ago, mrnyc said: well vtr being sold sure caught my eye in the paper today. the cross country mortgage gang bought it, so i think its going to be ok. i hope paulius got out from whatever weight he was under with it while it was closed up for corona. he’s a legend — wish him well. vtr is one of the greats and one of the very first retro speakeasy style cocktail bars. https://www.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2021/02/velvet-tango-room-cocktail-bar-on-clevelands-near-west-side-sold-to-mortgage-company-ceo.html According to the article, Paulius wasn’t very nice to the reporter, lol. I had a bad experience at VTR years ago and I emailed Paulius and he was very generous in correcting the situation.
March 2, 20214 yr ^ ha yeah as i recall paulius is a bit quirky for sure, a lot of personality. he used to join us on the old cle food forum i got to know him a little bit there back then and at the bar. and needless to say he is quite an impressive pioneer -- so no doubt this situation is a touchy issue. my hat is off to him for keeping the great vibe at vtr all these years. so i wonder if he will still be involved? i think paulius made the place by force of will, if not no doubt it will change at least somewhat, but looks like it will be ok.
March 8, 20214 yr Closed Since 2018, Beloved Dive Venue Pat's in the Flats Has Now Been Sold: https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2021/03/08/closed-since-2018-beloved-dive-venue-pats-in-the-flats-has-now-been-sold
March 12, 20214 yr On 3/8/2021 at 3:22 PM, Vested said: Closed Since 2018, Beloved Dive Venue Pat's in the Flats Has Now Been Sold: https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2021/03/08/closed-since-2018-beloved-dive-venue-pats-in-the-flats-has-now-been-sold fingers crossed he reopens it for music! New owner Aaron Westerburg says he’s uncertain of the plans for the building, which he closed on for a mere $60,000. Westerburg was born and raised in Cleveland and now lives in Hudson with his wife and kids. He realizes the rich history of the building and is open-minded to investment opportunities or concepts for the property. “I definitely want to bring this thing back to something that people will enjoy and use in the future for many years to come,” says Westerburg.
March 12, 20214 yr 4 hours ago, mrnyc said: fingers crossed he reopens it for music! New owner Aaron Westerburg says he’s uncertain of the plans for the building, which he closed on for a mere $60,000. Westerburg was born and raised in Cleveland and now lives in Hudson with his wife and kids. He realizes the rich history of the building and is open-minded to investment opportunities or concepts for the property. “I definitely want to bring this thing back to something that people will enjoy and use in the future for many years to come,” says Westerburg. The proximity to the Towpath opens up a lot more daytime options for the venue. Would love to see the music continue, with renovations that still keep the bar area as much the same as possible. It's just so cool and "new" places just don't have the same aura.
April 20, 20214 yr Author "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 5, 20213 yr Honest question, relevant to a discussion elsewhere. If you see the word "Ultra" in the name of a bar, what assumptions do you make (if any)?
August 5, 20213 yr 13 minutes ago, E Rocc said: Honest question, relevant to a discussion elsewhere. If you see the word "Ultra" in the name of a bar, what assumptions do you make (if any)? I see crowds of men with bad tribal tattoo sleeves, sun glasses on their foreheads and doused in Drakkar.
September 25, 20213 yr New Frozen Daiquiri Bar coming to Cleveland's Flats A new bar is planning to open its doors in the Cleveland Flats soon, but potential patrons will still have to wait a little bit longer. is still finishing up construction on its location at 1313 Old River Rd. across the street from where 1330 On the River just reopened its doors earlier this week. Now that its previous Instagram-pronounced opening window of summer 2021 has passed, the restaurant is now seeking to open around Halloween time. Contractors working on renovating the building said that they expect to finish up construction by the second week of October. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cleveland/news/2021/09/24/new-frozen-daiquiri-bar-coming-to-clevelands-flats.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 12, 20213 yr Pins Mechanical Co. and 16-Bit Arcade Bar coming to Ohio City 16-Bit Bar + Arcade is getting ready to make its return to Northeast Ohio. The bar, which closed its Lakewood, Ohio, location this past spring, is combining with another bar, Pins Mechanical Co., and opening on West 25th Street in Ohio City. Both bars are owned by Columbus-based Rise Brands. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cleveland/news/2021/10/11/pins-mechanical-co-and-16-bit-arcade-bar.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 12, 20213 yr ^ i figured it was a columbus operation with that nice, but fifteen years out of date style and concept. 😂
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