wait a minute, you mean the condoms-on-cucumbers thing doesn't happen? I should have known intuitively that something so silly-sounding and outrageous was an urban myth concocted by the vast right-wing conspiracy! (note to self: stop listening to talk radio :x)

 

Actually, no, it didn't happen in my classroom (circa 2001.)  We didn't discuss contraception because of abstinence-only education policies.

Almost as good as Dad flipping on a porno when you turn 14!

^^You must've went to some right-wing loony school.  We had condom on cucumber lessons on the hour every hour my sophomore year..... it was a switch in SOP after learning we couldn't work with bananas without making a terrible mess.  But by the time I was a senior, we were using oversized dildos in the classroom to practice the best methods for 'pulling out.'

Nm

^^You must've went to some right-wing loony school.  We had condom on cucumber lessons on the hour every hour my sophomore year..... it was a switch in SOP after learning we couldn't work with bananas without making a terrible mess.  But by the time I was a senior, we were using oversized dildos in the classroom to practice the best methods for 'pulling out.'

Or a Private/Religious affiliated school.  That sounds more like it.

Or a Private/Religious affiliated school.  That sounds more like it.

 

It was a public high school in one of the western suburbs (Cuyahoga County.)

I think there could be a compromise between conservatives and liberals on this matter.  Have kids learn how to properly put on a condom by having them practice with a rifle barrel.

 

See, now everybody is happy!

The thing I've always noted is that during the late 70s, we had sex education and did not have prayer in the public schools.  They also did a pretty decent job of educating us.  So those aren't the issues.

 

The main differences between then and now were the individual responsibility expected, the lack of political correctness, and the lack of "zero tolerance".  And the standardized testing, of course, but I have yet to see a better way of objectively measuring the job the schools are doing.

Zero tolerance policies are an organization saying that they don't trust their staff to make judgement calls.

 

And I'm all out of bubble gum....

Ram23 makes a great point about  understanding the mechanics of a multiple choice test. I wonder how people in the general population know all the tricks of multiple choice tests and how that affects the overall scores?

 

What's the Mark Twain quote?  If you don't read newspapers you're uninformed, if you do you're misinformed.  Or something like that.  I never cease to be amazed at how those who bully and manipulate in their personal lives are often so oblivious to the way they're being manipulated by advertisers, politicians, etc.  I remember being 5 and thinking TV commercials were for suckers. 

 

That said I guessed wrong on the Lincoln question because I've never been interested in the Civil War, the Jefferson letters, and the flood control one. 

 

I went to a Canton (ohio) Central Catholic in the 80's, and sex ed was pretty liberal, although I do not recall veggies and condoms. I seem to recall a wooden teaching device though

Ram23 makes a great point about  understanding the mechanics of a multiple choice test. I wonder how people in the general population know all the tricks of multiple choice tests and how that affects the overall scores?

 

What's the Mark Twain quote?  If you don't read newspapers you're uninformed, if you do you're misinformed.  Or something like that.  I never cease to be amazed at how those who bully and manipulate in their personal lives are often so oblivious to the way they're being manipulated by advertisers, politicians, etc. 

 

 

That's what it takes for them to be able to do what they do. The best salesmen are the ones most vulnerable to a great sales pitch. A lot of times in extended interviews for salespeople they will hit the interviewee with a high-quality pitch. If they go along with it like, "Yeah, that does sound good!" whereas somebody who counters with "I think I see what you're trying to do here" and picks apart the pitch may earn the respect of the interviewer but won't get the job becuase they aren't easily sold on things -- which means they might have trouble selling to others.

 

This is why I'll never be a truly great salesman. But I know how to look for them and that can't hurt.

 

That's what it takes for them to be able to do what they do. The best salesmen are the ones most vulnerable to a great sales pitch. A lot of times in extended interviews for salespeople they will hit the interviewee with a high-quality pitch. If they go along with it like, "Yeah, that does sound good!" whereas somebody who counters with "I think I see what you're trying to do here" and picks apart the pitch may earn the respect of the interviewer but won't get the job becuase they aren't easily sold on things -- which means they might have trouble selling to others.

 

This is why I'll never be a truly great salesman. But I know how to look for them and that can't hurt.

 

Yeah I sucked at sales for this exact reason.

 

What's really amazing is the way salesmen and purchasing guys are so convinced that low taxes, like low prices, alone motivate behavior above all else.  But they often buy from a vendor or knowingly lose money in part of their sales account because they simply like the guy from the other company. 

 

Straight from the mouth of one of the more outrageous people I've every worked for: "People do business with people they like".  This guy was over 70 years old, strutted around Cincinnati in snakeskin boots from Texas, spoke in a phony southern drawl, and had a 50 year-old manic Jewish girlfriend who brought her baby squirrel to work with her every day.  The squirrel spent half of the day riding around in her cleavage, and would poke its head out of her blouse while she was meeting with customers.  You can't make this stuff up.